No Parking = No Insurrection? DeSantis Has No Charisma? 04.04.23

a redemption. Anyway. This is still a production of iHeartRadio, and this is still the fucking podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It is Tuesday, April fourth, and that's no joke. Twenty twenty three, and what is April fourth? What's four four? It's actually not even one of my favorite time signatures. But actually it's National Vitamins te Day, National Chicken cord on blue Day,

National Hug a Newsperson Day. Yeah, if you're an actual journalist you deserve a hug, not if you're you know, some you know, writing for some right ring twash trash thing. And it's also National walk around Things Day. I don't know what that means. School librarian day, shout out missus Barkley,

my original school librarian. She had the I don't know why, she had the best energy of anybody in my school, and probably she was like, Yeah, the way I could be around these kids is that I'm around these books for sixty percent of the day. And then it's some other branded holiday from a brand that does not sponsor shows. So we don't have to we don't have to talk about that anyway. Him Miles Gray, a k A. Big

Daddy Grain aka a father of the guy's child. He just got some of his inoculations today and he did fantastic. And by that I mean he screamed in ways I had never heard before, but quickly settled down and I love you, baby. But who am I thrilled to be joined by today? Well, I've already you know what time

it is. I got somebody who has their ear to the street to the point that you thought they were elephant, because they somehow got their whole ear on the street and hearing every single thing that is happening in the street, especially when it comes to media, especially when it comes to new things that are coming out. I know she probably saw the beginning of that leaked DC trailer with George Lopez Paul because I know she's never slipping in

a good way. Please welcome to the stage. Not only just a great pundit, producer, post jess writer, you name it all. All the hats are being worn by joelbo memin aka. I'm gonna go elephant here because I like it. I love me some elephants. I'm gonna go aka live stick down. He ain't send him a princess here, princess, yes, yeah, thank you so much. What's your favorite movie theater in la Oh? The one I go to the most is the AMC in Burbank. Attached them all. They got two

of the Dolby theaters and an Imax. Oh and you can drink in there too, now yeah, and you can drink liquor. It's great. An audience is fun. It's like a good mix of like industry people and like people outside of the industry. It's good times. But my favorite movie theater is the I Pick. Oh. Yeah, look, you know we're bad in bougie over here. You know what I mean, cooking up popcorn with a boozy, because that's what we do. Uh yeah. I remember when I went on a date once there, and I had no idea.

This is years ago. This is like when it first opened up, and we'll tell you ten years ago. Miles. He did not have he did not have a cent to his name, and when he walked into that movie theater away, my eyes fell out my head. I did the whole panic thing. I was like, you know, like when you put your credit card down, like you know when you trul and yeah exactly, and you know like you're kind of doing the quick math in your head. I'm like with tax I think I might be a

little snake day. Yeah, anyway, shout out. I still seldom do I go because I'm like, I think I have that like that that like snap, I don't know that feeling of been like oh shit. So when I need to get my girl real sloshy. When she was like, you know, I've had a bad day week and I need to decompress, I'm like, we're going to I pick, We're about to get stupid drunk and were whatever super

movie is out. If you go hang in lobby and look at hot guys, it will be It's a great way to he compressed, and then we can eat overpriced truffle fries that come out a wire basket. That's what we do. Oh, let's move on to introduce our next guest, because this is what. I haven't seen this man in a minute, although I'm pretty sure I saw him at a birthday party a couple of weeks ago and I had to ask Lyra. I was like, is that Nick

Vaterad over there? And It's like, yeah, I think that that is anyway, I think I already I already told you who it is. Please welcome to the microphone. A hilarious stand up comedian just overall fantastic person. Uh and also you might catch his new special on YouTube called for amusement Only. Please welcome mister Nick Vatera. Oh, thank you. It's it's so good to be here. And I tell you what, this is the fastest I've ever gotten here, thanks to National don't walk around Stuff Day. I just

what is it I'm always walking through stuff? Yeah? Whatever, So now I'm going around everything, and I tell you you what, my world is completely changed. I think, Yeah, it's amazing. I'm gonna get in less accidents now, I think less altercations on the sidewalk. It's I'm now that you said it, I'm like, what the fuck did I even say out loud? National walk around things Day? And even as I read about it, no one even fucking knows it just said it's a holiday open to interpretation.

Very little information is available regarding this celebration. Yeah, I really love that for you. Yeah, news update. If you just give Miles something to read, he'll say it and oh, yeah, I'm Ron Burgundy in it. I'm Ron Burgundy the fuck out of this place right now. But it one says it's figuratively. Figuratively, one would walk around avoiding certain problems or potential problems. One would also walk around avoiding arguments,

certain situations, or unwanted or uncomfortable conversations. This sounds like, is this like introvert Day and like conflict avoidant Day? It does seem to like celebrate. I feel like the

Internet has like said everything there is to say. Yea, So now what it does is it finds a thing, a different thing to say, and it acts like it's some new way to approach things, you know, right right instead of getting a divorce, just try The new trend now is to get a new identity, and they actually like a new alternative cool way to handle problems, right, and you're like, hold on, as I read this listical Basically, what they're saying is, I'm I'm I'm faking my own

death to get around telling my partner that I want a divorce. It's like, exactly, people, it's a new way. You know, Yes, you should have the freedom, you know, them to have a new identity. It'll get them thinking where in that when they're at the police, at the police station, finding out a missing person's report, then being served with divorce papers, you know what I mean, Different kinds of thoughts go through your head. But anyway, Nick, have you been man, I've been good. Yes, but going

to you know parties again. You know Adam Conover's birthday it was yeah, and that wash I haven't. Yes, I feel like, I know, like the pandemic has been over for a while. I still feel like I'm I mean it's over. It's over in the sense that like the main line out of like Joe Biden, it was like it's over because COVID doesn't exist, and then cut to You're like, it's still a pandemic, but yeah, for Landlord reasons,

the pandemic is over. Yeah, sure, yeah you can. I just got my new uh my first rent increase week. That's how I knew it was over. That was that was the time stamped moment for me. Yeah. I think also when the gas company hit like la with that wacky ass bill at the end of last year, that's when they were like, Okay, you know what, we're turning it the fuck up on the over. I could not believe what the gas bill that looks like your electric bill.

A confusing time for all that Mercedes Cardinal. Yeah, fuck all that. I mean, like I was joking, but I told the Villain Department, I say, you're gonna have to come get this shit like at my fucking house because I will have Old Bloom waiting for you. And if you don't know who that is, look up the You're rubing Gods because that's the one for war. Anyway, I've been wearing my gas bill around my neck on a

chain just to kind of show off my money laminated. Yeah, just like there you go, Like you remember Joy Luck Club in that movie where like the little girl gets on the cover of Newsweek and the moms walking with the ship right in front of her so proud, Like this is my baby on Newsweek, You're like, this is my gas bill, look at the bottom. Paine, fuck out

of here. All right, well, Nick, we are going to get to know you a little bit better, but first let's give people a little quick preview what we're gonna talk about. Still got to talk about this Trump indictment. You know, today as you hear this recording, if he is not on the run, mister Donald J. Trump should be marching his little behind to the courthouse in Manhattan

to get arraigned and do all that. So we'll talk about what has happened since the indictment was announced and everything in between, and also just check check in on the state of you know, protests and things like that, because that has been a huge thing that he has been screaming about on truth social and just see at least how many people are there as of this recording.

Then we'll check in with Ron de Santis, who's you know, just he's kind of he's not doing too good based on some of the polling and just some of the murmurs out of his office in regards to, you know, just generally how his book tour is going, because apparently it's not going that great so well, well we'll check in with that and a few other things. But first Nick gotta ask you, as a guest on this show, what is something from your search history that's revealing something

about who you are, what you're into right now? Oh gosh, you know what. The first thing that came to mind was that, do you know you can't drive from you know you can't drive you know, not been watching it, but you gotta use your turn. You get a license to turn, Yeah, to use your hands And they're not all tests. It has say Tesla on it his hands free, let go and let's I would say that's funny. It's a video of like, here's somebody sleeping while driving. Here's

the worst part. It was a Ford Deel stuff. Yeah, but you can't drive from North America down to Argentina. I just found this out and I was looking at my search history, said that was a thing I just looked up. There's a h there is a region at like the smallest skinniest part that connects like I think maybe like Columbia to Ecuador maybe, and there's just no road there. I think there's something called the interstate of America. Is that just kind of stops and it gets too

hilly and too junglely and everything. I was just like, I never I never knew that. I just assumed you could drive everywhere, Yeah, because I know people that have driven like all the way up here from like Central America and things like that, and I can. But you're saying that there there just comes a point where you're like a man, like, what would you do, Like there's just no travel at that point, Like, I guess there has to be a fairy situation, I would assume, but

it's there's no road anymore. Like, No, they were because I was watching some video of like some of the migrants you know, like that come from deep South America, and they say that when they get to that point, there's no road for them to even like walk alongside. They have to carry all their crap across like these rivers and these hills, and it's just like this really dangerous. It's too dangerous for workers to even work there because they get you know, bitten with mosquitos and the heat

and then just like dangerous for them. So everyone just like, I don't know, figure it out, fly down there. Maybe they don't want to connect with each other. There's some probably there's some states that are in America that probably would rather if Florida couldn't connect to them, you know,

like but no knock on Orlando. Okay, but you know, I just thought that was interesting, and then I don't know what's For some reason, the first thing that pops into my head is just like someday someone's gonna tell me they drove all the way down to Argentina. I'm

gonna be able to call them out on it. I don't know why that's the all my information I get is to call somebody out on it that wait wait, so wait, yeah, what was the like your mental path to be like hold on to the bottom of this, Like I've been trying to forget what's going on with South America for a while. I don't know. I kind of don't know why we don't help them out more

as much as we help, like other countries help. Yeah, we helped ourselves to like them, but yeah, we helped ourselves to like fruit, you know what I mean, where like Dole came in like you need help, yeah, and that we'll like we'll fuck up anybody who's talking about

sharing the profits of your fucking fra. Yeah, you know, I mean it even goes like I mean, it's that it's even like even even earlier than that, they just like Europeans came in and just like just stole all their wealth and then tore down They're like, you know, they're structures of you know, these like massive civilizations. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's just they've been kind of like screwed ever since.

And I'm just sort of, you know, it just feels like these people down there's a lot of people down there that need help. That's why they're like, you taking That's where they're taking the chance across these like places with no roads that that that nobody wants to. Civilizition doesn't want to go to. And it's like, I don't know, I just been kind of fascinated that I don't hear this discussed more about, well how it got to be

to that point. It's, well, it's the same way why a lot of people don't want kids learning about the civil rights movement and things like that. It's like if they knew what we fucking did, they'd be like fucked up nightmare. So better than money, do you racialize the Rosa Park story? For God's sake? So the kids figure

it out, which is their solution. Much in the same way, like for all this hand ringing about MS thirteen, it's like, why don't you read a fucking article about the US interventions in El Salvador and you understand that we're the reason there's MS thirteen And they're like, whoa, the boomerang has come back. But hey, that's for another show. Check out Behind the Bastards, where you know Robert will be talking about all that kind of stuff. It's a great episode of money. Yeah are you did you do one

of them? Yeah? Yeah, we talked about US militarization in Central America War two. Great. Yeah, google School of the Americas and you'll realize we had a really cool way to train people up on being like, oh yeah, y'all want to learn how to murder people that are like we should share the money? Yeah, have a TV. Yeah, they're like they're socialist, man. This is how we're fighting the Cold War with this ship. Anyway, Yeah, moving on, Nick, what is something you think is overrated chat GPT? I

just think it's incredibly overrated. I think it's like, I understand AI is going to get to this one point, but right now, Chat GPT basically feels like like like a mixture of Google and Carlos Mencia, you know it Basically it feels like you're basically googling everything, and then it's like Carlos Mencia is stealing material it's finding around the Internet and passing it along as its own, right, you know, because it feels like it's basically doing the

sentence construction of Gmail, you know, of the predictive text and all that kind of stuff, and it's just taking this search stuff that you always did and figuring out a way to sort of like put it in like speaking terms. But it's like it's not like what I've tried to get it to like write a sketch or write a joke or write a story or a movie.

It's all I can tell. It's lifting from other people's like sort of right intellectual property basically, yeah, yeah, right, because it's using the existing content that's out there to inform like because that's the same reason right now a lot of people, there's a lot of artists, and like Getty is suing one of the visual AI like image creators, because again they're like I can see the photo that they're using that I own to even be the background

for this Mickey Mouse like hitting the fucking crack pipe in front of a Walmart AI think make you know, Yeah, I wonder when they when they talk about slowing everything down that you know, when Musk is doing this pause with these other sort of AI experts, I always get a bit suspicious because I've seen this movie before, because everyone else pauses while they go hard evil robots and then they have evil robots and we don't have any

because we paused ours. And like, the one part I feel okay about that is the amount of other people that are pretty seminal in the AI field, not just Elon Musk, that have been like they're like, these are real fucking questions, like we have to be asking with AI and like if this is already passing the bar

and stuff. We were joking last episode. We're like, wait till some dude pulls up in court and uses chat GPT to represent themselves in fucking court because they're like, I might be able to might be able to get through a whole trial with this thing, but yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, And that's and they're doing like the legal work and the it's weird when they're like yeah, there's a lot of concerns that taking them taking over jobs.

There is sometimes when I'm like writing comedy and I'm like, oh, like like because everyone explains AI as algorithms, which is like a kind of a vague term. But I think it's mostly like if then statements you know and so and and it's learning because it's like if most people are happy with this answer, then this is the correct answer. If most people say this is not the correct answer, then it learns that that's not the best answer that

finds a different one. But there is like sometimes comedy when you're like if Donald Trump then joke about orange face, Like, I feel like it could figure out comedy that way. It's had some Yeah, it's it can do well with

some like word pun type punchlines. I've seen like people like construct jokes like that, But at the end of the day, like I don't, I don't quite see it achieving the heights of comedy, although it is helping people like get stuff out there for like sales pitches and other things like that are more basic that maybe require less stylish. It's a great tool for brainstorming, you know what I mean. If you're like gosh, I don't have any ideas or I'm stuck in none of these feel right.

You can input whatever it is you're working on, and they'll spit out a bunch of is that you can maybe like riff off of them, build off of. But as far as like constructing an actual, you know, script that makes sense, that's going to actually pull on your heartstrings, that is actually connecting to the human experience, it's just not capable and it probably never will be. I mean, by chat what GPT what five just came out? Right? Is that the newest one? Or is it four? Yeah?

That's the one where they said, let's pause after this one. Yeah, and then by the time it hits like six or it has like you know, uh whatever, the in form of intelligence that all the experts are like, that's when it's gonna get messy. Whatever, I'll be it. I'll just say this. It's not taking my job because I can barely speak incoherent sentences. Fuck you algorithms, that's all we can do. Um what something you think is underrated? Underrated?

I would say underrated being unverified on Twitter? Oh go on, oh god, what a dream? I mean you know what I this is how I kind of feel like everything right now. It feels when all these like like verified, blue check part people are like arguing, and I feel like the rest of us unverified are like outside of this baseball stadium looking in through a hole in the fence and watching everybody else. Like I feel like in all of these like elitists, you know, verified on Oh no,

how all my followers know it's me? Right? How will my fans distinguish me from mimics out there? It's like, oh, I don't know, maybe because you have one hundred thousand followers and they keep tweeting about bitcoin, you know, like I think it's I don't know, how will they know the White House from the Wheal White House. It's like, well, one has Barack Obama following it and the other one

keeps tweeting Joe Biden goes peepy and his pants. I think you can kind of tell think you vastly over or maybe underestimate the willingness people are to like double check where this is coming from, because like I I agree, I think you're right in that being unverified allows you to enjoy Twitter in a way where you remember when Twitter was fun. It was to go in there just rip on people and then they would disappear, and like nobody's scrolling through your timeline, like what did you say

two years ago? No, it's instantly just about that moment and then it was over and it was great. And when you become verified, you know, and especially if you're like like I agree, nobody people will know if it's me or not. Most likely, like you know, the thirty thousand people that follow me or whatever, like they see the name Hi. But so it's fine, Like for me, I don't, like, I don't care if I lose the

check mark. It was great when I was freelancing and had no money because it got me a lot of gigs. But for like people that are actually famous, like I think I think you guys reported on here, but a while ago, like the check mark started because people were using celebrity names to like groom children. You're like, oh, hey, I'm your favorite celebrity from this TV show. We should go hang out. I think you're like really cool, like

let's talk. Are you in school right now? Like creepy stuff, and so it was like kind of essential for really really famous people would be like, no, this is my actual account, I'm not trying to contact your child, right, but I do miss just being anonymous on Twitter. I can't say things anymore. People know where I work. It's fine. Every day I'm like, do I make a burner so people can realize we think about it all the time, spice.

They don't know. I came from the gutters of the AOL chat rooms when it was truly like circular firing squads, like y'all don't fucking know, but you know, with therapy, I was like, you know, I don't need to prove myself with verbal verbal sparring anymore. We're gonna say, Nick, I think you could have to me like there's I've always sort of had an issue with the blue check mark system because it feels like a classic system, you know, it basically says that some people are more important than

other people. And like one part of social media that's really bad or dangerous that it makes people feel bad about themselves. And so any component that makes people like walk away and feel bad about themselves, like if somebody like if somebody has a tweet that goes viral, all right, and they're they're blue check verified, people were more inclined to like check out this person. Oh this is somebody of worth. Okay, But if there's no check mark, then

this person doesn't matter. This Parson, this person just part of this giant glob of unimportant people that it's just their thoughts and ideas are not important enough to see who they are as individuals, and it's just for me to sort of like absorb and take from them and not give anything back at all. I mean, what I think they should have is a verified Everyone should be verified. You know, you should verify the famous people so they

know that they're who's being interactive. But also, like everyone, this would like crack down on misinformation. It would crack down on hate and division. If you could have culpability for things that you say, and then you should also have a mandatory burner account so that you can go out there and say the stupid crap that you want to say and they're a fake theme and and get it off here out of your system. And there should be like a column on Twitter for just to go

and just accounts. Yeah, of social media, everybody is anonymous. No photos, don't. Part of the rules are don't talk about who you are, that's not an important Just share your thoughts who you are. Well, Nick, I'll say this, I think you're important, blue check mark or not. You know what I mean, I don't think for a second class citizen. And you can join me and the other second class citizens down here in the unverified steerage class of the Titanic we call Twitter. But I guess, well,

we're having more fun down here. Hell yeah, I just want my mom to like, my mom won't believe it's me, and I just need to Yeah right, oh man, Worth, Yeah, I mean, I guess Worth, you know, maybe, I guess the only way like I would ever use like in a verified account is like if I got asked to use like take Nataro's account or something and then tweet from there. But that would be amazing that that hasn't. And yeah, all right, well let's take a quick break

and we're gonna be right back to talk. Just what's going on with all this indictment crap, guys. We'll find out right after this and we're back. So is Donald Trump in his grifting ways? Because I gotta say this right when he announced that he was like I'm gonna get arrested on Tuesday a few weeks ago. This dude made a half million dollars a day in the first three days. And you know how much he made he made one I guess three times half a million equals

one point five. But sir, this time, when the indictment actually came through and he was like, oh man, like you know, he signed out a fundraising email like the second the like the indictment came down. You know how much money he made in the first twenty four hours. Four million dollars in twenty four hours. So it pays to be a victim, no, yea, when you have yeah, commodified victimhood like Trump has, it's a lot of the thing because most of those donations are probably twenty bucks,

five dollars fifteen, you know what I mean. I doubt that two mini millionaires are throwing chunks are changed in his direction anymore. That money is just never it's gonna be in the toilet, especially with the way it was worded. He was like, please, you're gonna do like, aren't you a fucking patriot? You fucking lied to me last time, motherfucker, please,

and now's the time. But yeah, it I mean enough people, I think we're genuinely surprised because we played on yesterday's episode the sound that Fox News made when they announced he was indicted. They gasped that it was funny, like the fucking like there was like a like a like a break, like a break in the air lock of like a spaceship. But he was assassinated the gas where they let out, Yeah, they were like, this is the end, and then get him? Can they come get us? Where's

our legal team? All? I know? So later today, because this is Tuesday as you're listening to this, he is scheduled to appear in court for his arraignment, and if things go as expected, he'll be there. He'll maybe get his munk shot taken. We don't know. They said that Mike's kind of up in the air, but he'll get fingerprinted, et cetera. This time and the other. But then he said he's going to give a fucking press conference right off.

Didn't the Joker do this? And the original Batman he like gave up press conference after That's what I'm picturing, right, Jack Nicholson up there? Yeah, well, yeah, give me those nineteen thirties banners for sure. I want like Didny Hall Deckton giant banners, A citizen King style. Yeah right, yeah, exactly,

but no prince this time. I mean, yeah, I guess it would probably look more like in Batman Returns when Cobblepot was running with what was Christopher Walkins character and Batman Returns because that had that very dark like black and white, big banners sort of back in the day sort of politics vibe. Anyway, so he's going to be

giving a press. This is where ship could potentially get interesting or not, because the biggest thing here is we've seen is when you're on trial, you just can't go out there and fucking incite violence against the judge or try and intimidate would be jurors. Typically you'll be under a gag order, so you have to keep your mouth shut, you know, to prevent any kind of tampering of that.

We can't do it, Miles. You know, he's it's so funny because you no, like he literally doesn't know how this has been his playbook locked in for the past with seven eight years since he started his presidential run, and so it makes sense that he was like he was like, oh, someone, let us know it's coming. Let me get my money up and get these lawyers aid so they can try to keep my ass out of jail. But there's no way he's not going to rise to

them like he's gonna send off his little sweets. I know that the guy who, um is it a arraigned of God, I've done our court system all enough. But I know he's got security already on him, like twenty four seven, going back and forth. He's gonna do what he always does. He's and he's gonna get his ass in jail. I think that's that's what's weird though, Right, Okay, a normal person violates a gag order, and yeah, you can be found in contempt and you could go to jail.

But I think he is again, he's so used to the fucking law not applying that a lot of people are just sort of saying like, I don't know what's gonna happen. Like they said, in a normal case someone like this, they would be like they'll probably they'll be

hit with a gag order like at the arrangement. But they have a feeling a lot of legal analysts feel like sound they suspect that the judge, Juan Marshaun, he is probably going to maybe go like not hit him with the gag order, warn him be like, yo, don't fuck don't fuck around, and then potentially progressively ramp things up.

But I feel like that's that that may be already like a mistake to begin with it, because I think either way he's gonna fucking talk and then test the very limits of being like, oh, so, what are you gonna put me in jail for contemptive court and then like yes, you think they would, But we're so reluctant as like onlookers to believe that can have or at least I think people who listen to the show and us who talk about all the time, we're like, I

don't know that's gonna work. There's like, what three potential cases out for him. There's the Marloggy thing, yeah, that that are that are not civil because he has the Eging Carroll suit and the two hundred fifty million dollar fraud case that start in April and October respective yeah, and then there's a possible like federal wine coming up that's not you know, they're still building the case with

a special counsel. Yeah, so it'll it'll be interesting because what's seeming to me, it's like, Okay, people are coming to extract their pound of flesh and it's I mean, obviously there has to be u because you don't want you have to be you have to be somewhat careful because January six, so we know things can get crazy. And his supporters are in this weird space of being very pro cop until they're confronted with a cop who disagrees with them, and which he had become very confused'

like we're with you, what's happening? Why are you acting like this? We have to kill you. Obviously, It'll be interesting to see what happens when they come face to face, especially in Garcetti's New York. He's so so pro cop. No no, no, no no, guard. We ain't in LA. I'm sorry, Eric Adam Adams saying, Eric Adams super pro cop. I'll be interesting to see what happens. Yeah, she's able to get if Trump's able to get a speech out, what that will look like for his followers, for the cops.

And then of course we're the legal system. I mean, yeah, it's just like you know we saw when Roger Stone in his TRILD. This dude was sharing picks of like the judge that was presiding over his trial with literal fucking cross hairs on her head. Yeah, and like he got hit with a gag or and I'm like, but I don't know. It's like I feel like Trump has a little more sadistic flare than that, which is interesting. Yeah.

Trump doesn't do press conferences. He does sets. He's like a standard comedian where he's like, by the way, after I get arrested, I want to do a set. I want to do I want to do some time outside of the courthouse, and I'll do I'll do a loose forty five right, and and then he'll do all his bits and try to like, you know, get some more political you know, sort of will you have new material though, Nick? Will he have new material? Because you know he's gonna

do the hits. He's gonna say weaponized, weaponized legal system. So he's never been more indicted than me, right exactly. It's Here's the weird thing about this is that, so you know, everyone's always like it's political, this is a political thing, And it's like, I wish it was political because if it was political, then with all these like different for lawsuits, they would coordinate with each other and

they would do Georgia first. Because George is like the biggest issue because that's like fundamentally you know, yeah, it's it's like fucking with the with the election and m and comen. But Cohen went to jail or he got three years for this, yeah, for this, and then Trump was the guy who did this. It's it's it's like Cohen like drove the getaway car, but Trump robbed the bank, and everyone's like, oh, you can't, like, you know, arrest

the guy robbed the bank. And I think a lot of people like know that this is bad, and people that support him know that he did technically break a law, but it's it's almost like your buddy, Yeah, Like if you're in a bar and your buddy's in a bar fight and you your first instinct is like, it's probably my buddy's fault, but I have to, like I have

to go and defend him anyway. I feel like that's what a lot of Trump supporters they're just like, we know he's wrong, we know he broke the law, but we like this idea that that that we're being you know, singled out and we're being oppressed in some way, and said we're gonna and he'll bring you know, white dominance back. But he yeah, but I get it. He is my

sloppy homeboy. That does get me caught up in a lot of shit because I blindly follow him into every club where he's asking somebody if they're talk and then you're like, oh no, no, nope, nope, and you're like I think he was man like with like Clint Steve, and you're like, fuck, this is all going to be

all bad for us. But yeah, it is interesting to see him in this version of like legal jeopardy because before when he was president, he clearly was like on top of how to the added benefit of like white supremacy and him being very privileged and powerful he was the president, and now he's a citizen and like still

trying to work within those confines. It is going to be interesting because I wonder if it's like before, I always liking like people that are this privilege, like having the fucking star and Mario brothers, like you could fucking doesn't fuck matter, bro, Like come at me. I'm like,

nothing's gonna happen. But now, Hannah, my man has no fucking star and he's walking into a courthouse, and I don't know how much he will if he realizes he's not no longer flashing multi colors with a new song playing, yes, or if he is gonna then if it would be funny just like yo, I have no fucking time gag orders, say some shit, I'm gonna you with contempt, and then you will be in jail. It's wild, though, because like, Okay,

two things are happening, right. So one thing is like America is looking and they're like, so does our legal system work at all? Yeah? Like at all? Because it's blatant, it's very in our faces. We're all pretty sure we have the majority of the facts necessary to be like, hey, yeah, that guy is guilty as hell. So that'll be interesting

to see how that plays out. But then I'm also interested to see, like if his whole rhetoric is I'm a rebel weeding our nation back to you know, a prosperous place, which is, you know, the ideals, the ideology that a lot of his followers have been martyrdom. I mean, it's not death, but jail time to them might as

well be death. Like I really feel like this is could potentially be the star, right, Like, the thing that gives him all of that superpower right back is the idea that oh no, they're they're gonna slaughter our shavior and we really need to do something about that more drastic than last time, because clearly that didn't work. Yeah, and it looks like World War Z with like all his followers like storming the fucking courthouse. I mean, it

hasn't quite it's not quite there. Based on a lot of people who are monitoring a lot of extremism online, they're like, I mean, it ain't get it doesn't look like anything that happened right now because the conversation hasn't ramped up quite in the same way did in they'll build up to January sixth, but hey, I could be wrong because this place though, it's early days. Yeah, so we will see where he ends up. But yeah, who knows,

maybe has an extra little Mario star his pocket. He just wolf down at his arraignment and then be like, sorry, you gotta go everything you say, it doesn't matter, But let's do check in with the State of New York City, because you know, there's been a lot of talk that like in uniform, like everybody who is like available to be on duty will be on duty on Tuesday today

for Trump's arraignment. There aren't many mass protests on like Saturday, there was like one sad guy outside of the Trump Tower with like a MAGA hat on and he was like, I'm here man, like this is not recognized legal system. George Soro. It was like, are you guys all just

saying this in the same order? All right? Fine? Um, But there have been like little things skirmishes here and there, like apparently in Orange County there was like forty MAGA people that got into some shit with like two protesters, like or with a few protesters. Two people got hit in the heads with skateboards. I'm feeling the skateboards were not being brought by the MAGA people, don't. I don't, I don't. I don't see them as a skateboarding kind

And then there have been like some bomb threats. One Trump supporter was arrested for threatening someone with a knife outside of a Manhattan court. So people are like, you know, I think a lot of people say you can't count out any kind of lone wolf actor, especially as we've seen like with like Alvin Bragg was got that note that's like Alvin, I will kill you, And it's just like what there was like white powder in it or some shit. So that is obviously a cause for concern,

which is why there's a lot of security there. But yeah, the NYPD is still a little bit like, yeah, I think, I think, I think it's gonna be okay. Like they seem to feel like there's not much ramping up or they don't see an influx of you know, shady people like getting around the courthouse. But it's funny though, because his like supporters are kind of afraid of the NYPD. They ah, that's interesting, Yeah exactly. So one person on like this, like you know, MAGA website, Patriots dot win.

This is how they were categorized, like, no, I'm gonna be in New York. Yeah, maybe I was there in DC, I'm not gonna be there in New York. They said, quote quote NYPD won't fall as easily as Capitol Police did. There needs to be multiple events to scatter and distract them. Be careful though. NYPD are brutal, and even more so when protecting one of their own. They have militarized units that are trained to round up and kill. I mean,

that's all police departments. But it's weird again that like deference that's paid where they're like, yo, I mean, I know it's back though blue, but these mother fuckers will beat us black and blue. So you know, I don't know, like we don't need a fucking goal quite there with it, so I don't It is interesting to see them like

they're even like they're brutal guys. They're like, don't fuck around and find out what the NYPD it's it's to me, and it's it's always like this is sort of you know, the thing with my criticism of Republicans often is there against things until they have to deal with them, and then they sort of see, you know the other side of things. You know, they're against gay marriage until their son's gay and that, Oh yeah, now I get it. It It was like why does it always have to happen

to you? And so you have the criminal justice system, you know that like Democrats have been trying. They've been saying that like you know, these these police, uh you know they're there. They have too much militarized sort of equipment there there there's too much brutality happening. And in addition to that, you know, then you have like the January sixth people, and they're complaining these people are in jail and they haven't gotten a trial yet and they're

in these bad conditions. It's like, buddy, this is what we've been talking about for prisons for decades, that that people have been in jail for years without getting their trial. You can't you can't donate blood after you've been in prison because prison life is so bad. You might have been contaminated as a human being just for being in there. And then and they never they're like, oh, no, criminals

should be punished and then when they should jail. Yeah, except for the except for the q Qann Shaman guy. It's he's vegan food miles he got out. Food. He already got out. Now, I just mean when he was in, but he already he got out. Look, yeah he got the star from Mario two somehow earlier. We love something about you so I can't quite put my fingerbone and I look at your face. There's something about you that I just can't quite keep you in here like I

do the others. I just I love that morning when Shaman was like should I He says to his wife, should I wear it? Should I wear the horn hat? Because if he doesn't wear the horn hat. We never hear about this guy. He probably maybe doesn't get arrested, he doesn't get as much because he gets he was the mascot of the whole thing, and if he didn't wear that horn hat, yeah, then he probably wouldn't have

had as much sort of retribution. I guess. Yeah, maybe he was like, oh man, he's like the histrionics got me. I knew it. My egos always getting in the way. My therapist has been saying that. So another thing that's funny though too, according to like this former FBI agent who was like talking about in this article for the New York Times about like what the preparations are around this courthouse for Trump's arrangement basically said like New York is just kind of quote not as fertile of protests

ground for conservative activists. And they're like, well, it's part and parcel because like New Yorkers too, like they're out in the street, like there's a lot of people out so you know, you may you may literally walk by somebody who has an antithetical viewpoint to you, and that might bring some smoke to you. But also in part because there are too many tolls to get there and Also,

when you get there, nowhere to park. Okay, okay, you like Canada for a truck rally, we because roads are gonna sid but I mean, try and park in New York. It's like you might find a spot. Even if you're like, oh, I could go on this handicapped space, watch there's a fucking cop parked there. Because they're like, yeah, we don't fucking we park wherever the fuck we want. Good luck

with that. I think all that to say is you when you don't have some like you know, like right wing dark money groups actually funding the buses and the flights to get people there, it looks a little bit different.

And I feel like, yeah, in that sense, even the media isn't quite on the same page to say, oh, this is this is where like we're gonna have to figure it out right now, everyone's just in that state of paralysis where they're like Dad says that we have to be angry at the New York Court and then

they're like, oh, okay, okay, kind of mad. Do you think then that the police having everybody like basically on duty is just a way for them to justify their like over time, but over time, I know what's that fuck, what's that bill gonna look like for Tuesday? You know what I mean? To justify what could we have done? It costs twenty five million, you know what I mean, what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do?

But you know, it is what it is. And then like when the real some like ship goes down, eventually they're like, oh, we didn't realize we need well the last time nobody showed up, so we figured we could show up with about a third of the force. But I guess not. Yeah, it's a very very I mean, this is sort of the I think. Yeah, part of the delustion of the crowd is they're they're not quite sure what they're behind at this point. It's it's stopped

this deal. That's an easy chant, but stop making a federal case out of a state issue of a hush money payment towards like they don't even quite sure what they're rallying against. And hey, it won't be until he's sentenced until they do anything anyway, Like I really feel like a lot of them are like I don't know or like me like a court system. Okay, I know he's getting ringed. They're gonna take a fingerprints. That's fine.

A lot of them think he's not in danger. They're like, no, he's the art of the deal guy, Like he'll get out of this. He always gets out of it. Like the court's not going to do anything. That's a sham child. I think that once like sentencing and conviction comes down, like that's an we'll see more action from his like base. It is funny, this is a home game for him.

You know, this is you know he's in Manhattan. He's this is he owns he literally owns Manhattan, and this should be like, um yeah, this should be like a total like he should feel comfortable, and instead it's he's feeling attacked. I also think it's funny this idea of that they all these people had all this like information of like the Capitol Building and all these maps and all this like intel of the corridors and the underground hallways, but they don't have any idea how to use the

F train. They don't know how to like park in Long Island and get over to and get over to Manhattan. Yeah, there's like three different ways you can get to New York, especially if you're like if they got to DC, they can get to New York relatively easy. Okay. They have those fancy busses now where you pay a hundred bucks and they drive you straight there, like you got options. I just I don't buy that. It's like, oh, there's nowhere in the park exactly. Now, if they were very smart,

they would go. They would park in Atlantic City, spend the day in Atlantic City, and then take one of the five dollars buses from Atlantic City, you know, back to you know, in the southern Manhattan tip and that would be that would be great, that'd be a fun day. Are we giving them too many options? I'm hoping that they don't leave Atlanta. Don't listen to the show. I'm so sorry. Listen. I can map out your protests. Just you know, you want a plenty of water, plenty of food.

There you go there, you go, bring my kids and make a day of it, maybe see a museum afterwards. Like you could really do a whole like full New York day. Yeah, raid some cars at night, day of it. I think that's exactly. It wear them out so that by the time the protest happens, they don't have any energy. They do that thing is like, let's take a nap real quick, and that's they do that thing where they

they're in the bed, like I'm in the bed. I'm not gonna go to the protest now, I'm already in the I think, like, what's the like sort of nick you're pointing to, Like, how how do you connect to all of these angry protesters in the way January six did? Were like stop this steal, Like you're saying, it makes sense because every MAGA person took an l when the elect With the election, they all were like, oh, Joe

Byron's fucked. It's maga all day. And then when they're like what the fuck it isn't they can connect to that sent of disappointment in a really visceral way. And then again their cognitive dissonance can kick in and be like, no, it can't be that we're simply outnumbered with this divisive

rhetor divisive rhetoric in ideology. No, it was the machines they and that like they were able to capitalize on this, like to your point, they're like, ah, it's more so to be like you can't put Trump in jail for breaking like a little law because a lot of people were kind of rolling their eyes to be like, oh my god, this is like on a little campaign finance thing.

Is like one of the like replies I hear a lot, and I'm like, it's it's you're only going to get a very specific kind of like right wing person that'll be I think, completely come online and like a I won't go into physical space over this specific issue. But again, I'm always surprised at how people forget things, and you know, Trump's ability to be like the reason I'm going to jail is because they want to put all the good Christian white people in jail. And if maybe that works,

we'll see. I mean they're already kind of on this paranoia tick anyway, kicking. Yeah, you know, he frames it. You know, when he was in Waco, he's he's he's pitching himself as he's trying out some new material that it's a little bit older stuff, but he's kind of got the first album. Yeah yeah, yeah, but you know he's saying that he's he's attacking you people through me. You know, he's an attack on me as an attack on you, and and you know, so it's like, who

cares about this campaign finance thing? But I think I just you reminded me what I forgot what I was going to say earlier, which was, you know, I think we were talking about the gasp from Fox News. It's it's not the it's not the campaign finance. It's that they spent four years thinking the absolute worst thing you could do was to say, let's put Hillary in jail. That was like the worst insult, worst thing they could

throw out there. And so to them, that's a very that's the that's a very bad thing to do to somebody else. And so now that they see that it's actually happening to them, that's their gas that their threat to that they always did is not happening to them and they can't believe it. And that could be the closest thing that could be what they connect to. Yeah, right of like your whiteness can no longer protect you

my own actions. They're gonna do you like we do them like you know, because the at its foundation, that is like the fear that drives so much of this kind of shit, because it's there's an awareness about it. But then you put it just enough distance between you know, what's actually happening in the world and your reality to be able to be like well, that surely can't happen to us. But I mean, I was surprised it happened. I thought that it was going to I don't know,

I don't know what I thought. I just because I again, I knew that they broke I knew he broke the law, but I also we've seen him break the law three thousand times or like, but he got elected in he breake like he got the high spoon in the land being the same person he is today. And so then yeah, the doubts start creeping in off like, oh well, maybe

there won't every semblance of justice. It's like, if you're fucking in baseball, you know, the season just started and you're batting average is one point zero zero, meaning you will hit the ball every time you're at fucking back. That is his batting average to evade accountability. So it becomes an afterthought You're like, oh, yeah, at bat Donald Trump like, yeah, whatever, this guy's not gonna fucking strike out, right, you know. And then that's just sort of like the shock.

But again, will we go that further step and actually see like that they're you know, there is some kind of accountability for you know, his hand and everything we've seen ever, I'm just gonna gesture around. I'm gonna bring up anything specific at this point. Well, he go down for doing everything everywhere, all at once, exactly. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back, just to check in on his arch nemesis, Ron de Santis real quick. Who's I guess doing okay or not? Okay?

We'll see took around for that and we're back. And yeah, Ron De Santists, I think is worth talking about too, because he hasn't quite reached the heights of stardom that he did right after the midterms in November, when his poll numbers were sky high and a lot of movers and shakers and the GOP started making googly eyes and being like, I don't know, this might be the guy,

This might be the time. Now just throttle off, you know, Trump and get onto De Santists, because he knows how to do this stuff well, and he's smarter and he

is all those things. The one thing though, that he just does not have, despite his like you know, quote unquote keen legal eye to be as cool as possible, is that he has no fucking charisma and there's nothing interesting about him except that he wears cowboy boots and like the weirdest times, and I'm thinking just because he likes to get a couple inches off them heels, and

that's why he does it. But that's like, he really lacks any kind of magnetism outside of his ability to be really cruel through his legislation in the state of Florida. And ever since then, ever since that, like midterm moment, it's been a slow slide back down the charts. You know, it came out with a strong single, but the album

people just didn't aren't buying. And He's had moment after moment where Trump would send some you know, shade his way, like trying to smear him, and he would just back down or fucking hide from the media so he didn't have to talk about taking an lso publicly. And so when you see that, you're like, oh, he has no appetite to actually, you know, do battle with Trump in any way that you'd need to eventually if you're really trying to go for this nomination in the Republican side.

But I think we're really beginning to see the limits of this man. Like you know, if you were a Pokemon card and you flipped him over and you look at the stats, he would have negative one twenty charisma points. His weakness would be standing up for himself and his and his special attack would be eats pudding with three fingers. There's an anecdote about how he eats pudding with his bare hands. Yet anyway, that's time me just making up. That's that's me taking from that rip from the headline.

I really enjoy eating with my hands, but putting what what? No? No, you like meat with your bare hands, or like get bread dipping stuff? Like, there's something very tactile eating with your hands, but not blitting sir girls. You know, I think the Santas's real problem is the fact that he can't straddle the line appropriately to reach both Trump and connects to his pass right. So he went to Yale. You know, whether he earned it or did anything good

while he was there is up in the air. But he went to Yale, which means ear to lead us. You're getting rid of all of these books, but you kind of have all of this past history with life. I've read all of them and love them. It's just I don't think he can do. Look, you have to

go full dumb slash like hostile. Yeah, yeah, you have to be so in your corner, Like the reason Trump got to be so successful because he was like, I will literally not hear any argument that isn't my own thought, but I'm not going to come to the table or debate you. There's no backing down. So either you have to be Trump essentially and meet him with all of that energy, or you're totally screwed and you're and because you're pandering to an already very specific alienated audience, there's

nowhere to go from there. Like sensible Republicans wherever they are, if they still exist, are not looking at Desantists as an option, right, That's not far enough away from Trump for them. And Trump is still out here working, so they're not. His followers are not looking to replace him. So I don't know what hole the santist is trying to fill with this craziness other than you know, fail to try to like take down Disney and making sure kids can't read I guess and eating pudding with his

three disgusting image you know what it's from. So it's like this apparently happened four years ago. Is on a private plane from Tallahasse to DC and twits on a private plane where they provide you with silverware. I'm sure, sir, it's all as it goes. Is he enjoyed a chocolate pudding dessert by eating it with three of his fingers, according to two sources familiar with the incident. Again, I don't know if it's true, but I love if this

is fake. I love this kind of shit, Like be like, yo, this guy eats pudding with three fingers, like in front of people who he knows are writing about him. There's a lot of questions to be asked here because it's not like privately with your buddies where you're like listen, I know it's gross, but this thing I like it. But maybe that's his like, maybe that's his tack to populism like Trump did. He's like, yeah, I mean who doesn't eat, you know, putting with their three fingers. You know,

I'm a regular American. People are like, yeah, Fox spoons many yeah something. It resonates with the toddler demographic. I also love this the idea that that that what's what is happening on private planes where where him and Amy klobaschar She's eating salad with a comb. He's eaten pudding with three fingers. They're both looking at the Blasio going eating pizza with a fork, going, what's what's this maniac dote over here? Yeah? Yeah, you know, I mean you're

and you're right though, it's like an impossible situation. So you know, if Trump comes along and he's the new hit movie and all the other studios trying to make the same movie again right now, but they don't understand is that you can't you can't be Trump to Trump.

That's like a contradiction of the whole thing you you can't like because if you're Trump to Trump, you alienate the Trump base and you need those people, okay, or you don't be Trump to Trump, and then you're not being Trump at all because Trump doesn't take exceptions to Trump. So really, the only real viable options I think for a Republican right now is just sort of like kiss the ring of Trump, sort of like support him until he just fades away, and then when he doesn't want

to run anymore, get his blessing and then run. And that's one way to be successful because if you blast him, if you do this like you don't this wavy thing. Then you you're either you're losing his base, which you need to like win, you know, or you're just not being him and they don't have They like you're you're not being the Trump that we want you to be. There the option you can be. And I don't know why.

I kind of wish Nicky Haley didn't go down the route Nicky Haley could be this person where she's like, I'm not gonna play this descantis Trump game, you know, and I'm just gonna be this like old school Republican where I just am not going in hate and everything. And it feels like even she's like taking a page from this Trump stuff. If any Republican could come out, well, go ahead to your point. And I think it's finishing your thought. Is they all this is what has happened.

They all are in fear of the influence that he has and they have to just sort of like model them after. David Frum in The Atlantic sort of puts it this way. It's like he's like, why are you gonna fucking like buy the tribute band album when you could just buy the original album? Right, you know what

I mean? Like, why are you fucking with the tribute band because they're not gonna do it as well as him, And that's kind of like this weird position that you're in, right is, like the thing is, I think the only way you can differentiate is to truly differentiate, and like to your point is disagree with him out loud or say shit like, yeah, this dude is a mess and

his lawbreaking is not a good look. But every person that says that ends up getting the fucking buzz song and they're like they run away from it very quickly, and the few that stood up to it, they're like, all right, I'm not running for reelection. So it's like almost like do you have the metal to actually attempt to do that, because that would be the only way you could do it. But I don't know if there's enough in like the national conversation on the right there

that everyone is feeling like, yeah, man, that's bad. We do need to move on from him, because people are still talking about January six and some corners and things like that. Yeah, if you have if you were sort of like a more moderate Republican, okay, and you wanted so you're trying to get that, like whatever, the eight percent of people that are that decide every election or whatever.

You know, you could basically you're not gonna You're not gonna lose QAnon because Quon's and those maggot people there, they their hate for Joe Biden outweighs, you know, their love for Trump or whatever. So if like if it's between you and anti Trump or and Joe Biden, they're still going to vote for the anti Trump Republicans. They hate Joe Biden so much. And I think there's a lot of people in the middle that are undecided that

are tired of all of this. Like you know, descentis where the woke goes to die is Florida and Trump the Liberals they're ruining this couch. They're they're tired of all this hatred. It's over. You know. It's like they've seen all the Marvel movies and they're kind of tired

of superhero shit right now. They want they want something a little bit They loved it for so long and now they want something a little bit different, and and you're right, no one's no one's gonna do it because they well, yeah, that's what's so funny though, too, Like when you see all the ads of like Republican, especially like men, like Republican men running for office. There's like this through line of like, hey, I'm buck Fuckville and

I'm running for congressman. And guess what I made love to this pile of bullets before the director said action because I'm about your Second Amendment rights. And you know what, I was always told one thing, to never back down from a fight, and that's what I swear to do. I will never back down from a fight unless it's with Donald Trump the second he calls my name out. And which is so funny that for all this like posturing of like I'll never back that's all they do.

And but again I think it's all in service because like the people that it's attracting aren't necessarily thinkers. They're all mimics. And the mimicry is getting to a certain point. And yeah, it's hard to know, like you know who up on top. But I just do want to play

this one clip because it is kind of satisfying. This is from like Ron de Santis is like I might be running for president tour where he's also like hawking a book, but he goes to Iowa, very you know, a very strategic place, to visit when you're thinking about running for president and fucking this event was so backwards, Like the second he comes on the stage, the stage crew took the like struck the podium from the stage, and then the Santis gets all confused because he's like,

my podium, my podium's gone. And then you hear the governor being like he needs just listen to how like you will just take in a bit of shot and freudo for how you know, lackluster? His tour is actually going. There they go with the podium. He was about to speak at the lectern. Thank you all right, Well they took that. Did you take my podium away from me? Oh Jesus, they took the podium. Well, it's great to be with you. Great from the Free State of Florida.

Ba I. You know, I love Family Guy and this is one of my favorite episodes of Family Guy and all right, right, I don't y'all war right? Where Hey, how's everybody doing here? All right, Peter, Peter, we need the podium. Bah. It reminds me of the time I became king at Disneyland. So yeah. Apparently what's funny too is he was working with an events company that does like a lot of like the top draw conservative events.

They they backed out of their contract with the Santis's campaign because they're like, dude, his they like apparently their belief is his, like his campaign's a mess, and they don't want people, they don't want people to start associating his fucked up events with their company, like like with that podium thing, and they're like, you know what, probably better off we don't like we normally work with like the most vile racist, xenophobes, transphobes, homophobes, all the phobes.

You can you imagine this, sister bridge too far. You're just unprofessional about it. So we will see where he ends up, you know. And you're right too that nobody has seen do Santist talk for a length of time. They get these little sound bites and when you if you're gonna see Santis, if he goes in a debate with Trump, trumb will destroy him because Trump is a performer. He's done. He's the Don Rickles of the Republican Party

and he can just take them all down. And he's not gonna because he has a couple of talking points that he has that he works into stuff. But he's not. He's not good on the fought and he sounds like kind of Kermit the Frog a little bit, and and and yeah, just as soon as people like hear him talk, it's it's it's going to be bad. And it kind of reminds me. The other thing is, I don't know if we're gonna get into the Marjorietaylor Green thing at all. But I don't know if you have time, but yeah,

but go on. Okay, But but here's here's what they like about the Santist, because all you need to do to be a Republican candidate is like one sound bite of you telling somebody to shut up, you know, like you turning around to a press going, hey, how about you shut up? And then people like I like this, and so they they they've seen some sent to set as. They like that he'll say shut up. I think he told a kid to put a mask on one time. They loved how we talked to that little you can

take it off. He's like, take it off, yes, to a teenager or whatever the kid was, take it off. And they just like they like a guy who's like rude and sort of goes against everything they sort of preached a very un Christian way to sort of speak to people. But they like that. They like a guy who's like not afraid to tell somebody to shut up

and so and that's what we want. Have time to get into the Marjorie Taylor Green thing on sixteen minutes, but like you know that that is why that is sort of the problem with the Marjorie Taylor Green sixteen minutes episode is that you know, they they whatever there, there's just they let her talk, and that's fine, you

should let her talk. But also, like you know, people liked her because she is the type of person who gets on and tells people to shut up, right, and and then there go I like that, but you have to show them. If you don't show the whole breadth of what she does, you're misrepresenting why people are criticizing her. And she's like the perfect example of like what has been going on systemically, I guess for in Congress for forever, which is people come in and like the Santis and

Marge Tiller Grenna go, Congress is full of bumps. We got to get rid of the bumps, right, and then they become the bumps. And then though I'm a Facebook bump, but I just got the Capitol Hill. I'm one of the bumps for Facebook. But we're moving on up folk. Yeah, I mean it's it's it's a merry go round and yeah, it's just Rhonda Santis. Would I hope that you can find uh, you know, the exit door as quickly as possible because I'm feeling out. I mean, we'll see what again,

we don't. We just don't know what is going to happen. He may have some new material or we don't. But oh, to your point, Nick, I was gonna say, like, he's not going to be able to go toe to toe with Donald Trump because Donald Trump is like just a bully, you know what I mean, He'll fucking he'll say whatever the fuck he wants to you. Ronda Santis isn't like that. And if Trump was like look at you, let everybody you should see his shoes he's wearing right now. How

many inches did those add? Ron? But three inches? So so what without them? So with them you're five six? So with them, he's probably about five three. Folks, your boy right here, look at these, I'm wearing flip flops. These are flattis can be I'm six three. Bring the tape measure out and then Ronda Santis will be like, um, I just I just don't think that that's Germaine to

this conversation, like you love you said Germaine. Okay, it ain't gonna fucking work unless you can come back with like, oh yeah, I was just actually reading the story Stormy Daniels thing. And you know I heard your favorite character in their Super Mario world is told stool if you get what I mean? All right, anyway, yeah, and then like and then just Santist gets the gamer vote. But anyway, we it's just not we just don't know what will happen. But Nick vaderat, thank you so much for joining us

on the daily Zeitgeist? Man, where can people find you? Follow you, supports you and all that? Oh? What I just I'm supposed to have a call of action. That's what I was reading about it on social media. You have to have the singular call of action. You can't muddle it with all this different stuff. Goes. Go watch my special. It's called for amusement only. It's for free. It's on YouTube. Subscribe while you're there. Oh I've muddled

and I've asked for two calls to action. You know what, just why this It's a I did an album years ago and then I have the video I've been I found. I've been sitting on this video found in an old coat pocket. I decided to put it on the air back. So yeah, go ahead and check that out. And thank you all for this. Was uh this, it's it's always cathartic to sort of like yeah a little bit, Yeah, you got to, you got to, you got it. Maintain that equilibrium, Joel, thank you so much for joining me.

Where can people find you? Follow you? And what's one show that you should tell people to watch? You have can follow me all over the internet at jelani je E l E m O and I Q you E. I'm telling what do you watch it right now? Don't their whole you know, your reputation on the line. But what are you watching now? Okay, so I'll give you two one perm My reputation is we've been rewatching the first season of the Daredevil Netflix show, which you can find one that was well, it still hits, y'all, it's

still real good. It sort of gives you hope about like the direction of the MCU could maybe swinging back to once they figure out kind of catastrophe they're in right now. So we gotta gives you hope that maybe maybe MCU will strain yourself out, and I look forward to that hopefully. The other show I tell everyone to watch is Julia. It's on HBO Max. It is the

Julia Childs How she made a TV show movie. So this is they seem Julia Julia that chronicles how she made the cookbook, this is how she made the TV show. It stars so many women working in television in the sixties. And if you're like me and you want to work in TV, oh my god, it's so good. But also they teach how to make perfect scrambled eggs. And also the cast is really good. And also there are black people in it, and there's nothing about the rites. It's

kind of the perfect show. There's not like a woman with like a with like a black power afro pick. It's like, Julia, I gotta ask you for something. There's a black woman who works at the TV. They did do a slight rewrite the white female producer of the show. They made a black woman just you know, spice it

up a little bit, which I really appreciated. And then there is a black woman in the penultimate finale episode who it's a documentarian And you think she's gonna come in and be all badass and like tell this white boy how to make documentaries about civil rights and she's like, yo, you live in Boston, Like, don't go to the South. You've got plenty of stories right here. And then she learns he works for Julia Child and she's like, I love Julie. She melts and she's so soft and sweet.

Three black women work on this show. Two of them are playwrights. It's this astounding sensational show. I don't think that people are talking about I love Julia, and I think more people should watch it. I love scrambled eggs, so I'm I would make you the best scrambled eggs because is it? Is it? What is it? Like? A like a like more of a thick, thick bottomed pot butter or milk, and then you slow cook the egg any kind of pan, it doesn't matter. It's okay cooking

with Julia. You need a ship ton of butter. Just prepare yourself. It doesn't matter what she's making. Ratch with butter and yes, super hot pan. The trick is you want to pour in three quarters of your egg yolk mixture you're blend into the pan. Let that cook almost all the way about ten seconds before you pull it off. Dump the rest of your egg mixture in there, whip that up, and then pull it off. The heat will continue to cook it, but until it's just perfect, so

it's like very custody and white and amazing. Did the I always did the Gordon Ramsay version, which is like on lower heat, and you keep removing it as you like, keep stirring to get it like super fluffy. Now, I look, I want to be the egg. I like it. Just get it hot, do it fast, get it over, and then add a little bit at the end. I like that. Is there any tweet or worker social media that either of you are liking in case you want to shout it out? Yeah, I got you. Here we go. This

one's from Shack. Shut up, you dumb ass and leave Angela Reese alone. Thank you Shack. That thought it needs to be said about that. And from Deadline. Paddington's back three full padding team in Peru will be filming in July. Thank you, Deadline. This is the news I needed. We're getting another Paddington movie, all of our hearts are so much fooler. And then from rainy Ovka, I think that's

how you say their name. I hate the summer for a lot of reasons, but as a parent of two toddlers, you try putting your kid to sleep at eight thirty pm and it's brighter than powder and the movie Powder outside stupid And I can't even blame them. Do you remember wanted to bet at eight? Are you when your child was awful? Wow? Wow wow wow? Yeah, Angel Reese, I mean, look, that's what happened when you taunted the white woman with her own taunt. You know what I mean?

You invited the eye of all those people. I like she pointed that ring though too did John Cina. You can't see me because that's what what's her face? Caitlin Clark was doing on IOWA. I loved going into that game how the LSU players are like. We saw how she was defending the South Carolina team and she was not giving them respect. And you know what, we're gonna

take that personally and bring that into the game. You're when they when they when they were evoking Saint Michael of Jordan's to say, and we're gonna take that personally bringing it the game. I'm like your yes on the floe track suit, like yeah, and the leg popping little things stopping. We all know about that. You can find me at Miles of Gray on Twitter and Instagram. You can find Jack and I on our basketball podcast Miles

and Jack Got Mad boost These. You can also find me at four twenty Day Fiance with Sophia Alexander where we talk ninety day fiance. Let's see. I don't have anything else to add to the Twitter conversation, but I will say you can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram, at or No on Twitter, at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We got a Facebook fan page and a website, daily set geys dot com. We're post our episodes and our

foot notes. Thank you, Joel. Or You can find all the articles you talked about, as well as the song we write out on today. I want to go out on this track by this Japanese band called Bali Stocks, and it's basically of like a this film director Sora Jokimoto and then this other guy Golcucci who's like a pianist and the music's like just very like I don't know.

It's it's hard for me to put like a genre to it, but it's just really upbeat and it's fun to listen to and I love hearing like more Japanese music enter like the like the American mainstream, or at least the fringes of the American mainstream. But this is called Cold Eye t O t O d Ai and the band is called Bali Stocks b I A L y S t O c k s. So check that band out. Kind of a beat song to kick off your week with, or maybe watch Trump get arranged. So anyway,

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