Everything Everywhere All At Woke, Stormy Daniels: Ghostbuster 03.28.23

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He's spring Break. Shout out to Locarni on the discord for that Max Romeo Chase the Devil aka love that track and yeah. I just felt good to scream that out, and I am thrilled to be joined by my guest co host, a fantastic comedian, writer, producer, just a boxer. Even you do not want you do not want to catch these hands. I'm serious. This man is actually in the gym boxing. He doesn't really talk about it a lot, but I've seen the hand speed and it will make

your head spin. Lee is welcome to the microphone my guest host, mister Andrew T. Where's Jack Jackson the Noe Work Groove. I'm not Jack, but I got to give you your news. Oh that's as far as I got. I like, how before You're like, hey, I got an AKA about Jack being gone. I just want to make sure it's not for anything, anything bad or and I was like, no, no, no, he's he's loving spring break right now with his family. So I was just like,

you know what, I'm here. I just wanted a triple check. No, I think it's good form because it would have been wild if you did that, And I would have been like afterwards, like yo a and we're gonna have to cut that Akut's wildly insensitive. But you know, yeah, I'm good I'm alive, you know, just gearing up for the writers to go on strike. So yeah, that's fun. Yeah, and my dog has a butt infection, so she's she's

on a cone and antibiotics. But is it too, is it receiving the booty infection or is it I think it's I think it's gone. But I'm just I'm keeping the cone on until the bed gives you all clear. I thought of you last week. My friend, who was a fantastic chef, made a pecanya, but he smoked it first and then he reverse seared it, and I was like, oh. Then at first I was like, yeah, man, I'm boy, Andrew you cooking these all the time. So I started cutting back a little bit. I made some sukiyaki last

night for the first time. Yeah, I was gonna say, I'm cutting back on beef, but mostly just to add a lot of cabbage and mirror into them. Yeah. Yeah, fine, Well it's it's all incremental, you know. I'm I'm doing me free stuff every now and then too, as we should. But let's not delay things any further. We have a fantastic guest with us today because you know, I mean, we're I feel like we have a steady stream of really really great people that have come to grace this

second rate podcast with their genius. Our guest is an author, freelance writer, speaker, and the host of the podcast The only One in the Room, which, if you heard it, sometimes we we know that feeling for sure, for sure, and also the author of the new book Stash My Life in Hiding. Please welcome to the proverbial stage. I guess I will say, Laura Cavcar Robber, Yay, thank you, Laura. I'm cheering from myself. Thank you very much. Good to have you, Good to have you. Yeah. Were you coming

to us from? I feel like from reading a little bit about you, you're in the valley. I am in Studios, Los Angeles. Yes, my hometown, you know, girl, right there? Yeah, North Hollywood, baby, you know what I mean. I was mocking hung the village as a youth. That's it. That's where I am right there. Back when artisan or not? What was the there was? There used to be wine shop, No, the wine the wine store that closed down and then became a clothing store. Yes, I don't have the sandwiches.

They have sandwiches. I should be called the drip. No, I should be called what's a wine store and a clothing store? Oh yeah store and a clothing store? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah there we go even be even better. See thank you for punching up, Andrew. We gotta figure it. I will figure it. I will get there. See. Man, this is why the writer's going on strike. Man, this is what you're losing studios, Hey, us what we're worth? Oh so yeah, Laura, how you like in uh rainy La?

We had a little bit of a break. I just like to tell people when we're in La because we had the streak of storms and the last four days we've had sun, but it's going right back to rain. Have you shift into becoming Seattle or no? You know, I I appreciate the rain because I understand how badly it's needed. Right Um. I worry about the driving in the rain. Not necessarily mine, but other people. It's like people in La drive like they're crazy when they drive

in the rain. Yeah, we just it's it's a it's a mixture of confidence in ineptitude that turns into the worst and arrogance. I think, yeah, yeah, I can just speed by you and I don't care if there's a pothole or I spray you or whatever, or my tires have no tread on them anymore, not just hyder play across the plain. Okay, well you did that. It's like LA's general personality flaw made much worse. Yeah, exactly, exactly, exactly. Well, Laura,

we're gonna get to know you even better. Be First, we're gonna tell everybody the stories we're gonna talk about for just to all woke. Everything lends that the GOP looks at things through. It's just it's like I get before, it's the point the culture wars and the cruelty is the point of how they feel that they're in power. But like it's to the point where like they're ignoring polling too, and you're like, who's this four? Are you guys stuck in this like feedback loop that you can't

get out of. So we'll talk a little bit about that and how they've even pivoted to being even more heinous, especially around the shooting in Tennessee. Then we're going to talk about how folks, I know you've been waiting for it. You always wanted to know what Woolly Mammoth's meat tasted like,

if you like me. Well, guess what These two blokes in Australia, some company called val have brought woolly mammoth meat balls to the stage, and we'll talk a little bit about how they did that, why they're doing it,

you know, for good reason because obviously climate change. And then we're gonna catch up with Stormy Daniels, who I mean, obviously he's back in the news with all the hush money payment stuff, but I didn't realize in between, like I knew she was doing stand but she has a lot of other ventures going on, so we will touch on those, including ghostbusting, so you know, shout out to

the ghostbusters, all all of them out there. But first, Laura Cakart Robbins, we got to ask you, our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing a little something about who you are, what you're thinking about. I think the thing that's probably most revealing about my search history is that it's all one thing right now. It's dashed my life in hiding on Amazon daily, minute

by minute, refreshed to see what my standings are. I feel like I've not written a book, but I know a couple of people that have, and I feel like that is the only thing you can do when you put out a book, because you're like plead like, where where are we at? Where are we at? Please tell me where are we at? Did this move the needle? Did that move the needle? Yeah? It's like I tell myself, I'm not going to do it. It's very much like my addiction, which I wrote about, I'm not going to

do it. I'm not going to do it. And then I looked back at my history and I'm like, all day, all day, that's all I did look for my book. But it's good. You're like a day trader, but for your own words, right, yeah, yes, thank you. Yeah, you're not undercutting the little guy. You're like go mee yes,

please please. Uh So, I mean I think, you know, I've only read like some of the reviews and sort of the top line stuff about it, but I think it's you know, you're the talks about just sort of your again, you your journey with addiction and sobriety and just like the intersection of privilege and race and all of these things. When I when I just was like reading a little bit about it, I was like, this

sounds really fascinating. I mean, can you tell us a little bit about kind of you know, where where you started and where you're at. Yeah, I mean, thank you, thank you for that. The stash My Life in Hiding covers a ten month period in the year two thousand and eight. And I think the thing that it's an addiction memoir, but it's also about divorce, it's also about motherhood. It's also um about falling in love, which comes a

little bit towards the end. And I think the thing that makes it unique is the thing you just touched on, is that it comes from that intersection of race, because it's a story written by me, a black woman, about an addiction that doesn't involve drug ins and prostitution and you know, childhood sexual trauma, and it comes from this place of privilege. And it's also you know, it's an addiction story race. And what's the other one, addiction, race

and privilege. Yeah, So those three things, And what I found was there are lots of stories that are addiction memoirs. There are lots of mostly written by white women. The ones that are written by black women usually involve those three things I listed, And like, I'm not saying that my story is any better than anybody else's by far. Those stories are thrilling and I loved reading them, but I didn't identify with them, so I think I don't think. I know, there were no comparisons for my book when

I wrote it. There's nothing out there like it, so that's what makes it unique. Yeah, I mean it was striking just from like this of synopsis of you. You know that you were elaborately scheduling withdrawals between PTA meetings and things like that, or hiding pills in your red bottoms. Yeah, I was just like, this is fascinating. And yet to your point, I feel like we're I guess like the stories we hear a lot are not necessarily looking at

it from your perspective. Not to say that's a bad thing, but yeah, to your point that you felt that your story had a place to be heard, and I think it's fantastic. Yeah, thank you. It's so nice that. Yeah, there's like diversity in every type of story and we're like starting to finally get to hear things like that.

That's so great. Yeah, was there everything like with publishers who are kind of like, do you have something that's more in line with like stereotypes about black women that we know about, like because I know, like with entertainment, like to your point, Andrew, you know what I mean, Like you try and represent your culture in a diverse way, and then some people who are gatekeeping who don't understand that, like can we just regress to the old thing? But was it was it easy or what was that sort

of path? Like, you know, to my advantage, I pitched this during the summer of twenty twenty and we were having a moment. Yeah, and publishing it was like the first time in my memory that all black authors were in the top ten of the best selling list. Because everybody was trying to educate themselves about being an anti racist, etc. Etc. And learn as much as they could about black culture. So publishers were hungry for stories by black people period.

I think they did get excited about mine because it was unique and they felt like they might be able to pull in a different audience than they had with other previous black addiction memoirs. Right right, that's fantastic. Let's move on to our next question. What is something you think is overrated? College degrees? Okay, go on, So I didn't graduate from high school, I didn't go to college. And I'm not bragging about that, but you know, I had well and I wrote about this in my book.

I lied about it all the time in order to get jobs, I said, I was George Santos basically like I said, I padded my resume because I wouldn't have gotten the job without it. But I was without that on paper qualification, I was still qualified to do the job. I had the experience, I understood how to do it. I'm a quick learner, like I educated myself about the position before I got it and then went all in and I did really well. So I don't think I needed that piece of paper in order to do the job.

But there's there's this consensus that we do need that, And a lot of people in my family, they're successful, don't have college degrees. And I'm not discouraging anyone from getting it, but I do think they're overrated. Yeah. Well, I think there's just like this disconnect to where there's this emphasis about having it, yet it's so hard to attain or in a way that doesn't potentially fuck you

up for decades to Yeah, yeah, I get that. It's like that so many people now, Like I was just talking to somebody I was watching like the Final four tournament, and I was like, I was like, I almost went to the like almost went to University of Miami because like I got in in my mind, I was like, yeah, I'm a fucking party in Miami for college. Then I saw what it costs, and I'm gonna keep my ass

in the fucking state because I do. I absolutely couldn't, especially when I saw my other friends taking on loans and like what the payback sort of structure looked like. I was frightened to the point where I was almost like, I know, I want to get into comedy and shit, but yeah, like my grandparents and my parents' voice rang in my head. They're like, look, if you could go for it, and if you fuck up, at least you

could teach history because you have that degree. And I'm like that was and I would do that if things shook out a different way. So I kind of I

see that. Yeah, it's so because it's like nominally it's supposed to be like proof that you did something or you accomplish something or at a level, but like, because of the way the world works, there's so much variance and what that fucking piece of paper me Like I feel like like I did, unfortunately go to like a nice college, and like, truly, the only thing I learned from that college that I find was valuable was that um, rich kids are not only not better than you, they

are actively worse than you. They are the tombst people on earth. And we all have the same piece of paper at the end of the day. You know, It's hilarious. I just like to like, I always think about when you know, you have a resume or whatever and they ask for like your education, You're like, how many times has anyone ever actually bothered to check up on that unless like you came in and they like you were so flagrant with it. They're like, there's no way this

person has like a master's from whatever. But right to your point, I'm like, yeah, just fake it till you make it. You know, I even know where my diploma is. Oh I didn't even say, Yeah I didn't go, I didn't even walk. Yeah you didn't. Now I was so old, man. I Look, I was so over aademia because part to me was like, well, like I was already becoming like this cynical person about like what a degree meant. And I'm like but and then I had like survivors get

I'm like, how come I can get a degree? But these are the kids you're gonna degree and they got to do this, and then they go up in the draw like and then we're all going up in the same job interview where you like, you need seventeen years of experience for this job and you're like, I'm seventeen though, yeah, you know, and it's just like y. So anyway, all that to say is when my it was it's UCLA.

So it was hot in La in the summer, like beginning, and it was all going to be outdoors, and I asked my parents, so I was like, you want to wait out there, like to be called amongst hundreds of names, And they're like, if you don't care, we don't care. And I'm like, I don't care, man, if you want to, we can the diploma, but that's more money and I would rather just stop giving this UC system money so

I can watch. Yeah, that way I could walk head first in two thousand and seven into a recession with my degree, and hey, I got this degree to enter

the middle, But what the fuck is happening? Yeah, it's very I talk about this a lot with other millennials about how like especially like there's so many people who get so down, like because everything is so difficult to attain right now for younger people, and we're fed this thing of like, well you should be doing this by now without understanding like how uniquely of a shitty situation we came of aging where it was almost like oh yeah, like I was standing on the rug as it was

getting yanked out. What something you think is underrated? Laura, Well, this kind of relates to the wooly mammoth meatballs. Okay, so I'm glad, but plant based diet, I think it's underrated. I'm a plant based person and I think people throw me a lot of shade because of it. Like I'm sober, right, I've been sober for almost fifteen years, So I don't drink or I can vibe in anything, and socially that that's one kind of thing, right, So you're not gonna

offer me the same kind of drink. I'm not gonna share that bottle of mine with you. But then to be a plant based eater too, yeah, it's like we don't even want to have dinner with you. Basically, you're not even gonna like eat the good food and you're not gonna drink, Like it's just we'll meet later for

coffee or something. It's funny, I had to think. So my friend, one of my best friends, her husband is like a straight edged dude from like og straight edge guy from youth, but then just turned into just being sober basically into adulthood and also vegan. And I remember when they first started dating, we were in our early twentis. I'm like, oh, he's straight as van the fuck, How the fuck are we gonna get down with him? Like

we're drunk as fuck eating meat? And then you begin to realize, like how wonder you like you think that like what that shit is? Because over time we're like I'm like always like like he put me onto so many vegan things and like opened my mind just from like hanging out. So I definitely underrated all of that because as I become more or like in tune with my own health and like the earth, I'm like, yeah, yeah, you don't have to fucking go ride or die for eating cows like I thought I did when I was

much younger. But yeah, but that's like such a like also like as your personality grows past, like what do you do at tacos and beer? Like just like every die you know or whatever, Like it's just like, you know, we can also grow from that, yeah, you know, no matter where you start. Yeah, no, it's to the point now where like if I grill hamburgers, I only eat like impossible. Yeah, I don't do like keef burgers anymore.

They just they I don't know, Like because I had it at Umami when they were doing impossible and the way they were doing it, I was like, this shit is no different than McDonald's quote unquote beef in my mouth. The funk I need to do this for anymore? So I'm all, I'm all on that. Although look i'm gonnad cheese okay, yeah, my guilty not guilty pleasure obviously, But like the fucking impossible whopper, it's so good. I mean,

it is good. Well, part of it is that you realize that the taste of the whopper is just mayonnaise and rod everything else is sort of irrelevant, not a vegan burger, but it is like there is no need for beef to be in there, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love that. Okay, let's take a quick break and we will be right back and we are back the grand old Party. I just want to check in with them a little bit, because when they took control of the House, you know, they vowed to go scorched earth

on our assis. You know that there would be so many investigations, our heads would spin and the revelations would destroy the Biden administration for decades or whatever, like they you know, like they did with the Benghazi stuff. So we're a few months into the new Congress, and though

multiple hearings have rendered not much at the moment. Now there's look, I'm not all that to say, there is definitely still time for them to figure out if there really is a massive conspiracy to silence conservatives online or just how huge Hunter Biden's ball sack is. But as it stands, even the things they are claiming our revelatory

just aren't catching on. And naturally, the polling shows that like, while the Republicans that are pulled don't quite move the needle in terms of like, hey, do you think there's a waste of fucking time or an overreach or like they could be doing something better, Democrats and independence especially are like Independence especially are being like what the fuck is this? Like, there's it's not even that inflation is so bad, but this is the thing that they're devoting

the time too. And it's all just kind of part of this current iteration of the party that we've seen that's come less complete sense onto how to even govern or even create legislation that isn't part of like their batshit,

you know, anti woke culture war. So they had a really good opportunity with the Silicon Valley bank collapse, you know, because you saw some of the conservatives on Capitol Hill begin to question, like the idea of bailouts and who actually pays for the transgressions of the investor or banking class, who is the one who is really footing that bill? And is it right? But they maybe asked two questions and then went fucking all in on there were too

many women and people of color on the board. So their wokeness caused high interest rates in a bank run, which is kind of where you're left. And this tendency has become so reflective that it feels like the party is guided obviously more by what's getting clicks and views on Fox News versus like what their own polling tells them because even when you pull Republicans, their biggest concern is the economy, morals and values pulled at one percent, but again this is part and parcel of what we're

seeing at the moment. The other way to look at this, though, is like especially on economic stuff, and I guess this is shade at Biden, like yeah, they're not that different, no, Noans, So they're just hitting their point of difference, which is I guess a marketing strategy that is justifiable. This is the thing like at least at least Democrats will put a kid day cloth in neo on Capitol Hill because

they look at expanding a voter base. The relics are like, I don't know, man, let's how many more can we shed by just like turning the pot up higher. But again it all probably speaks to like their singular march towards upending like the democratic process, where it's not going to matter if they have the numbers. They just want the more angry people. Yeah. They just have been built on, you know, a fervor of apartheid rule and they just

need they're apartheid minority to be passionate. And even though like did you see the wake of the rally, like he was. Yes, they were losing energy out there. I was like, shit, bro Donald, like you gotta come home, baby. They're like the red meat. One black guy find him? Oh yeah, there's always like those two guys go on with the pon the relaxed ponytail. Yeah yeah, yeah, that's my man right there. I always see him. I'm like, wow, like, is it like following the grateful dead? Or is he

like on a retainer as like a set decoration. I'm not sure. Does that fall into the prop masters killed? Yeah? Anyway, I I mean, wasn't it was I guess this is maybe just me reading my part of Twitter too much, but wasn't it like showing that those people are like a murder? Oh? No, there was one guy for blacks for Trump. I remember who. They're like, yo, he's got he's connected to some weird stuff going on. And people are like, have do they even vet these people? Because

again they're just looking for literal physical like black body, Yo? Yeah, how could they vet someone? They don't. They're not turning black people away at the Trump rally. No, I mean again, they might be looking for wherever they can find them on the Internet. And so this pattern right has extended into this shooting in Tennessee now where the GOP is using this like woke, like what is woke? Woke is bad.

That's why a bank crash, not because of the lack of regulation and the greed of like the people who are running it. To begin to fuel a discussion on how the far left needs to understand that being a transgender person is a mental issue. And yet despite their cries of like mental health crisis, which is their go to to not enact any gun control. You always notice they aren't now saying that trans people need more mental

health support. No, so again, okay, so it's just to say, I just want to avoid the conversation about gun control. And this is the thing, like to underline the point about the Democrats and the Republicans. I'm not getting much from the Democrats either outside of we need gun reform. Yeah we've been Yeah, we know we need gun reform, Like we understand that, but where is the actual like

aggressive energy to address it. Otherwise you're just revealing how much you're in the tank for like the gun lobby or your unwillingness to to grapple with it, and like I saw a lot of coverage that was like victim centered coverage about who these six people who lost their lives or and it's tragic these three children and these

three adults. And I don't have an issue with that, but if you're not following this kind of coverage of pulling at our heartstrings about the loss of life by forcefully calling for real gun control and actually saying like we need to stop saying the same empty, you know, sayings we've been saying, then really it's an utter failure that like you know, it's hardly a fitting tribute to

those people. And I was just as I was watching this, it was really hard to see like how like some of these anchors and a TV pundits would like breathlessly like be like yeah, you know, there is talk though too that we could have more perimeter security that's needed at our schools, or that we you know, this school didn't have a police officer there because it was like in a church setting, blah blah blah, that we're not it's not a substantive debate about like our sick obsession

with guns and like you know that, and also are are the reflex of people to just hide behind the Constitution to just not actually have like a conversation about human life. Yeah, it's like our constitution was written by a bunch of racists who've never seen a bullet before. So hey, they had to melt their pewter down into musket balls. Okay, I won't I won't have you slacking

them off. They had to get up their fine pewter trade. Listen, if you're like a school if a school shooter had to like set up a little like killed and melt their little musket balls to get ready to do their shit, that seems like a compromise. Yeah, I don't know. Just like as I you know, just see countless like heartbroken parents over and over like step up to like a you know, an assortment of microphones and say the same thing.

You're like, it's it's it's just you get in this like really fucked up like rage loop where you're like, oh no, and then they're gonna come on and say that. You know, there's a there's a senator in Tennessee or congressman in Tennessee who quite literally said, well, there's nothing we can really do about it, right, Yeah, Yeah, I'm sorry what he said. I don't see any real role

that we could do other than mess things up. And then before and then again his like first thing was like, yeah, we're not going to fix it, We're not going to be able to and you get and then on the other side, it's just this hand ringing without any real like are we really ready to up end the status quo?

The answer consistently seems to be no. Yeah. I have a conservative friend who's a gun enthusiast and I follow him and a few of his friends on Instagram, and the consensus between them seems to be that one, we've gone too far to ever go back, So how do we deal with what we have while we keep our guns? And their answer seems to be to arm everybody, right, Like if everybody had a gun, then we would be

a much safer nation. Yeah, and they really think it's two separate issues, like they think that the mental illness that gets people killed has nothing to do with the access to guns. And to me, it's so frustrating. Yeah, but I follow them because I want to know what's being said, you know. Yeah, No, absolutely, I follow plenty

of conservatives and see the exact same thing. I mean, let me just play the comments here of Congressman Burkett, who's from Tennessee, because his basic talking point is the same thing as in line with It's like, I mean, what are you gonna do? Man? Do you think there's any role for Congress to play in reaction to this tragedy?

Obviously this is your state now that it's happened in every other star it's happening if it doesn't matter what state it's happened, and it's we're all Americans, it doesn't matter the color of their scan, and they all believe. It's believing a lot. I don't see any real role, but we could do other than mess things up, honestly because of the situation. It's like I said, I don't

think our criminal is going to stop from guns. You know, you can print them out on the computer now, three D printing, and there's really I don't think you're going to stop the gun violence. I think you've got to change people's hard you know, as a Christian, as we talk about in the church. Now, okay, there, you got enough of that. It didn't need that pivot to Christ there. Thus Christ is going to turn the guns into medical care.

I don't know what we're gonna do with that. But yeah, you hurd, it's like this I don't know, the cat's out of the bag kind of thing. And it's It's what's interesting too, is you know he talks about he has a little girl too, and the reporter said, well, then what else can be done to protect children like your little girl? He said, oh, we'll be homeschool her. Oh. Really disgusting. Extra wrinkle. Yes, it's like trying to also destroy public schools. Great, yeah, like every layer there, he's like,

because you know, we're not about a teacher thing. It's like Rosa Parks was a black woman, because we don't

think that's important. We just know that she someone told her to get out of her seat on the bus and she said no, and she's a hero for that, which is why you should be an asshole to other people if they ask you to give up your seat on a bus, which that's the moral of it, right, Yeah, bring up race When she said U like, this is happening in your state, and you say, well, we're all Americans, it doesn't matter what color you are, Like, why did

you say that? I think because they're they're all so racist that it's just a reflect they have to be like, yeah, it's just been like, well, I know it's gonna come off as I only care about maybe white people. Look, we're all we're all America. We all bleed red, black, brown, purple,

you know magentimle right, well bleed red. So it's also like these like conservatives all never put their fucking money where their mouth is, Like, oh, it's the safest society is if everyone has a gun, Like, go to eddy failed state, then then live you want Libertarians off, there's no rules in like many of the countries America's destroyed. Go set up shop there. Yeah, like people there. Yeah, if it's that tough, and that's what's so freedom is

so important. Well, they all and this is everybody that's a politician. They speak like they live in the world that other like the normal people do. Yet this guy is someone who is a member of Congress, who has I'm assuming enough wealth to have like you know, like a stay at home family and homeschool their child and afford themselves all these little advantages, but then not understand what it means to not have those and then just

talk shit about them. I'd be like, hey, this is a great place I mean, I'm not actually subjected to the dangers of the world. I'm comment thing and won't do anything about. But I believe it's okay, and I think that's it's Yeah, it's very, very frustrating. Let's take a quick pivot, as we do on this show, to

woolly mammoths. Just let's take a quick breath here. So if you were a fan of the Flintstones like I was, and you wanted to eat a whole side of dinosaur or rib and now you can have meat balls that are made of woolly mammoth meat. Kind of kind of okay. So this Australian company, vow has made mammoth meat entirely grown from cells, so they didn't obviously require her traveling back in time and slaughtering a prehistoric creature like I hope it did. Yeah, that would have looked up the

space time continuum. So could you imagine that as a film? Though, I listen, they fucked up with the movie. Sixty five sixty five should have been like a catch and cook like from YouTube. Wait, what's sixty five sixty five is the flop recently flopped ish movie that was like Adam Driver Crash Lances spaceship and there's like scary bosters out there and they're dinosaurs. Oh really, I did it. Yeah, the movie did not do well. I love the trailer.

I haven't seen it yet, but I'm guessing there isn't a scene where after he kills a dinosaur, he kind of looks around. It's like I'm gonna try to bite Yeah, exactly did Like good thing? Wait, is this guy Tim He's a time traveler, though I think it's not supposed to be. I didn't. I don't know that the twist is for the purposes of this bit. I hope he's a time traveler, but he's also like he brings seasonings

with him the back of his mind. He's like, you never know, there might be some shit you could eat that you won't be able to. That's true, you know, an alien planet. You just got to try a little, just a taste, would you You have to? You think so? I think I would eat a dinosaur. Yeah, Like I don't have a I'm like I get that. Like, if I'm you know, if I'm already traveling in time, I'm probably fucked. Anyway. It's I'm like, fuck it, let's have a bite of this like rapt or foot, but an alien.

That's where in my mind ago that feels like a bridge too far, because I don't know if our biology is it could be poisoned to me. But again, this is me being so stupid that I'm like foot a raptor. See, that's okay, that's good eating. I'm just saying, like every time in one of those alien movies, it's like, oh, like, oh I was assaulted and like became you know, not or whatever, just like a tapped the thing and then

you know, turned into an alien. And I think given how we've seen how real people react to various pandemics that diseases, if aliens invaded or like we were at a spaceship that found like you know, alien eggs, there's no like caution. Someone would just straight up eat it. I know, I know they're like, wait, what's all over your mouth and one of the eggs missing? Oh it burns a little bit. Oh my god, better than it

looks though. So it turns out, they, much to our dismay, are not time travelers, um so boo all of that. But really they want to They're really trying to show the potential of what like meat grown from cells, like what you can do exactly without obviously the slaughter houses and like the large scale agricultural opera like livestock operations that are causing a lot of environmental problems. So they've

also been doing this thing. They've been like investing in making cultivated meat out of other species, including crocodiles, peacocks, and kangaroos. But the first one that apparently be sold to like the public, is going to be Japanese quail, which will be available like later this year, like in Asia somewhere, but apparently like so again this is about their publicity stunt to basically say, like, we had enough DNA sequence that we could kind of extrapolate something that

we could say was wooly mammoth like. So what they did was they quote used the DNA sequence for mammoth myoglobin, and they filled in the gaps with elephant DNA and then placed it in a myoblast stem cell from sheep. I don't know what any of those words mean, but they're they're quote what they said it was quote all ridiculously easy and fast. That doesn't sound like something I

want to eat. I got in a little trouble with some of my friends, Like in probably twenty eighteen, two thousand nineteen, when everyone's doing twenty three and me and I was like, because I I majored in biology in college, and I you know when you do those labs. I was like, you know, you can sequence your own DNA and everyone was clowning on me, what are you talking about?

And here's the thing. It is like complicated, but like every time you've done one of those COVID tests in the you know, the last three years, that's essentially what you need to do to to uh sequenced it. Like we could all do it. Yeah, it's like a swab and you put it in an enzyme and then you like, there's there's different you have to put in a PCR tube, but probably reaction. Tobe obviously put that into center fears. Yes, we've all done this, but that's what we have a

lot of kids like that's I remember. I'm like, yeah, PCR probably chain reaction to. It's so funny. Those little vials I stole because I thought it'd be cool to put like drugs in them, and then the little popps and like, but yeah, that's actually good. That's where my stupid ass mind was in high school. Aside from stealing the digital scales for my own weighing. That's what I'm saying now, all that all those digital scales are like twenty dollars high. It's just like all that shit you

can I promise you you could do it anyway. So that's okay. Hold on, but I mentioned how, but how is it gonna? How do I spin on a thing and then it tells me on Portuguese suddenly? Um? I mean it's just a matter of looking up the right You're trying to find the genes that tell you that shit, or I guess in there in twenty three meets case, they just you know, find as many genes as they look for, and then they match it with the number of people who have this that are Portuguese or whatever.

Could I do a twenty three in andrew t where you'll see I trust you to sequence my DNA. I'm just saying we all could do it. If you could like put drops of liquid into a little tube, shake it up, and then pour pipette that onto like a little piece of paper, you could do it. I'm just saying physical skills to do it right. Everyone, every one of us has done anytime before. We don't have a micropipette and things like that, so maybe that is a micropipette.

See I'm learning Tanita digital scales or like three bucks. Now you could go on eBay and get some old as centrifuges for way less than you should be able to, or just tied on a string. It just whip it around your head. I'm sorry that was that was my big derail. But what they say, it's easier than you think.

I bet it genuinely is easier than you think. I get. Yeah, I guess I like that, or maybe I thought it was maybe like a bit of ausy humor where they're like, oh, yeah, it might make it be a myth mate, it's just ridiculously easy and faces the meat. Does the meat have cholesterol? I'd imagine, I mean probably it probably does, right, yeah, on some level. So it's just it's slaughter free, but it's still is meat the way that it's grown from a cell. But it doesn't have to require raising any

live animals or like, and doesn't have parents. No. Yeah, they're like, hey, we just got this DNA right here, and then we put it with a myo blast stem cell. The look ill eat it. The stem cell came from a living sheep, but that sheep wasn't killed probably many unless you ask a geop politician and which yeah, it was like, we will never use sheep stem cells to make our meats here. Yeah, like maybe probably in reality

of this sheep was killed. But yeah, you could do it like a pick the bone marrow out of a thing. People do it all the time. Not all the time all the time. But have you have I? Have you done it twenty three in me? No? I wouldn't. I could do that ship myself. I'm too cheap new twenty three of me, I would do it myself. Okay, you know what, asshole you gonna now you have to do it. You can be like I don't have to. I could do it myself, and don't be a don't put your

money where your mouth to look into it. I did. I did at drunk at a bar. Get as far as being like, all right, this such a few just only like two hundred eighty bucks from like uc orvide, I just have to drive out and get it. Wait, lord, did you say you had I not only have I I've done twenty three in me, But my boyfriend has done it three times and they refunded as money because

not they could not assess his sample. Oh yeah, well they finally they sent him replacement kits twice and then the third time they sent him back his money, and we said, They're basically like, we can't help you. Damn. Isn't that weird? This makes your boyfriend one of the most interesting fucking people I've ever heard about. Now, yeah, I like hot a DNA leavel like our hands. Yeah, They're like, yeah, this sounds like a great beginning to like, yeah, right,

I haven't. It's funny because I just found like I got an old ass khit like five years ago, like in a gift bag for some like industry party I went to. But at the time I was like, I ain't fucking giving them my DNA, so they sell it to fiser or whatever the fuck. But I don't know.

I think part of me is kind of interested. The one I'm more interested in is the African interest ancestry one because I would love more specifically to know like where in Africa, like you know, all of my likecestors were coming from, but that I need a female relative because they that's the gene that it's stored in. It

couldn't be me. So I'm talking to my cousin in Chicago about figuring out how to but that it does interest me because it is something it is very interesting when you like, especially for people who like it opens up family secrets. Not bad in a bad way, but sometimes you hear people and be like, oh, yeah, like your great great grandfather was like white, and we were like, you know, I probably can't say any details, but yeah, I had a friend who discovered some pretty insane shit

about his family. Oh yeah, yeah, I know plenty of stories, like even people I think andrew you and I know where the next thing, you know, it's like knock knock, and it's like like, UM, don't want that und you And then it's like oh shit, but yeah, look I get it. It's it's dis ocated. Oh, especially for like you know, men from past eras. They're like, I didn't think it was gonna be like digitally, like I would digitally get caught out there secret families, but more than

a few secret family exposed type things. Yeah. Yeah, I realizing now because my I never met my grandpa, but he just during World War two pretended to have died, started a secret family, and that just showed back up about Grandpa's life and we're all just like, wow, man, it's really you're really lucky. Twenty three and me asn't a round you fuck it old basketball Brian, our editor Brians just came in the chat and said, you can buy a Centrifuge slash PCR machine for eight hundred dollars.

There you got Boom twenty three and t whatever twenty three b is charging. I'm like eight, you know, eight bucks go to all the comedians and writers that like we know and just being like, yo, you know, I'll sequence bet you could get that thing paid for within like six people. Listen. Yeah, oh, and this is like a nice one. I'm saying. I'm talking about like used equipment from UCLA. I think I think you could get

a cheaper I think we could do that. Sounds like you're trying to encourage me to go to use file lab and starts stealing a PCR machine, But I'm just saying you've stolen other shit from there, so what we're at a certain point, Yeah, I'll be taken from them, because for years they'd be taken from me. That's Tupac said, all right, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back to talk about the new Stormy Daniels. And we're back, and what a story we just heard from Andrew. Folks,

you gotta be there, you gotta be there. It involved the Bidens. I'm just gonna say that. I'm just gonna say I didn't realize that you were so close with them.

But speaking of politics, or I guess ancillary or tertiary secondary characters around the world of politics, uh, Stormy Daniels, but I guess no primary figure right now because of the you know, the payout story, which I don't know, may lead to the first ever criminal indictment of a former US president, And I really stressed may yeah, right, unsatisfying, even if I felt like part of me is almost like I feel like that tweet from Donald Trump was

like helping out like the Department of Justice too, because like everyone's like, are you gonna do something? He's like, I might get arrested, and then everybody's like, yeah, I'm like, he just said that he's afraid he is okay, And I think it only probably could be because he's had to like testify so many times, or the threat of it, but anyway, it's like we we wait with bated breath, but there will be no U, I guess celebrating until it's like you're like, is it for real? Is okay?

Let me see a non AI version of his like hairstyle being blown away by the wind, because that will be something. But anyway, let's talk about Stormy Daniels because while I was gone, Jack was saying like he felt like the news cycle just feels like a like a TV show that's like retreading like tired material because they run out of ideas. It's like Stormy Daniels is back, like what I thought that character got written off like

three years ago. But again, if this were a TV show, the character has come back and has become a late season Riverdale levels of strange. As our writer J M mcnapp puts, I don't know much about Riverdale except I think the teachers. The only episode I saw, one of the teachers was having sex with a student, but the parents' reaction was just for them to get out of town. It's a weird show. I haven't watched all of that. It's a weird show. Um, everyone now, everyone in the

chat because like it's gotten wild, there's magic involved. Now my god. Yeah, I mean in the comics, Archie fights the Punisher once or twice. No, she is crazy, doesn't really fight the Punisher. Apparently I haven't read it, but apparently the Archie versus the Punisher is like sort of a tour to force in that no one really breaks character. Oh whoa, yeah, there's quite Literally Archie meets a Punisher and everyone just is who they are. Like, I like

how Artie saying I knew there'd be a chaperone. This is ridiculous. Anyway, that's the crossover. Yeah, it's the crossover we want to see. It's the crossover that we all deserve. M But so since like the Trump stuff it has come out, we've seen her do stand up like in twenty nineteen. I remember we touched on that and she like she was like doing a whole tour and like

selling out rooms. Like with her you know, look beginner material, but look all it's about getting on Mike and figured, you know, finding yourself up there, which she did and was selling out stage. So good on you. But then has like a merchandising business, including a sci fi comic book series in which she battles a Trump like villain. Yeah, this is not a joke. It's called Stormy Daniel's Space Force.

And if you look at this like version of Trump, like it's him, but like with like the worst like punk rock metal hair him, So he doesn't have he doesn't have the follicular fortitude to even pull that kind of Yeah, he'd have to get like some like Marvel level like like foam pasted on his head, because you imagine he really does that, and people are like, oh, yeah, I mean it's giving fanos, but yeah, I love it.

I love that for him. But yeah, again, this is like part of a full force sort of like let me try and get these bags like right as much

as possible. And then she also appeared on the reboot of The Surreal Life remember that old H one hit which I remember seeing like the promos for it, but very quickly I just it bummed me out because it's like, check out Stormy Daniels longside Frankie Munez who's had so many concussions he doesn't remember most of his life, and Dennis Rodman and like Tamar Braxton, and I was like, it's so weird. How I've lost the appetite for the surreal life too. Like when it came out, I was like, glimmy,

see these people, like what's going on with them? And I think now is like you begin to understand more and more celebrities are just normal people that are usually like sad I mean Twitter TikTok really ate that material, yeah, because there's nothing new for these people to be weird

about any right, you know, yeah, I know I saw. So. The other thing is that we found at is that she's, like, I use this term lightly a ghostbuster um because during the so you know, Mike Lavinadi her like her pit bull lawyer, the fighter who was going to go up against Trump, but then his ass ended up in jail for stealing money from her UM during that trial against him again because he was found guilty of seeing three

hundred thousand dollars. From her book Advance, we learned that she was also pitching a paranormal TV show called Spooky Babes, in which she travels the country investigating ghostly occurrences, and it was all inspired by her own quote personal experiences that she had at her home in New Orleans, which she said was haunted as fuck, and that's why she

should be out there. The really interesting part is she has a sidekick on the show in the form of a literal haunted doll that she brings around called Susan, who is supposedly possessed by the soul of a girl who died in the nineteen sixties, and even brought this creepy doll to the surreal Life set. I think maybe to try and do some like cross promo or something, but this, like the whole thing has become like also

a big part of the Abanati trial. The reason it came up is that he was like questioning her about the ghosts, like extensively to try and paint her as like an unreliable like narrator, or that she's like struggling, like she has delusions of like ghost stuff, and this dude apparently was like hammering the ghost stuff so much. But everyone's like, this is not it, sir, And then very quickly Gavel teamed on that yeah she really did.

I can't imagine that kind of like victory she's going to collect if this case ends up being the thing that takes Trump down. But yeah, I would fucking I would try and monetize the fuck out of that. She seems ready. I know she would have gotten sued into oblivion. But why would you call it spooky babes when you could call it buston? Makes me feel good? So it's just there, it's right there. And also are the spooky

babes in this plural sense her in this doll? And that's spooky in itself, you know that's just like okay' oh the doll is so weird. It's not even that weird, unfort But I like anything, like I really do. I am curious if she you know, because I have people in my family who swear up and down about goals, you know what I mean, like and there's not a thing you can say to them about it, like you know, they've they've seen what they've seen, the experience what they've experienced.

But I also wonder if Stormy Daniels falls into that category or she's just kind of like she knows how to you know, spin a yarn and tell a tale to get people interested. Because I feel like, I mean, if that's true, like I really want to know about your relationship with this doll, like what's going on with it? Yeah? It feels like she's just got a knack for the spectacle. Clearly, yeah, clearly right. What about you, laur any where you at

with the ghost? Are you or you spook squad or you're just like I've seen everything, but God, So I cannot watch scary movies if they're supernatural, because I creep around my house for months afterwards scared of everything. Oh I can't. I can't even let that in. When when I was little, my mom took me to see The Exorcist and the Amityville Horror and I is just like I believe, and I'm super scared of it. So I don't want anything to do with it now. Personally, you

ever have any paranormal supernatural encounters? I don't know that I have, But my mom has had a lot, she's had a lot like personality thing. Maybe maybe I think that maybe there's a level of awareness that some people have. And like my four year old when he's twenty five now, but when he was four, he saw me ironing and he said, Mommy, that's the way I used to make

grilled cheese sandwiches when I was a man. And then he left the room and I came I'm like what and he didn't really he couldn't repeat it back to me. But I think if that was true, like if he had another life, a past life where he was because my grandfather did that. My grandfather used ironing boards with wax paper to make grilled cheese sandwiches. Oh wild. That's because they didn't have a hot plate, you know, so they could plug in the eye and cook like that.

So there's I'm thinking like maybe when when you're a little, when you're born, there's like a window to something else that we can't see as adults because we've been so hardened and jaded. And then maybe some people aren't as hardened and jaded their whole lives and they have ability

to see other things. It's it's so funny because when I was like maybe eight or nine years old, and I was in Japan, like with my cousins, we were walking at night, like from the convenience store, like you know, like the kids walk by themselves all over the place, and we're walking like down this street and my cousin and his friends swore a ghost walked by, but I saw a like piece of trash blow across the intersection where they saw it was a ghost, And I thought

I didn't know if they were trying to fuck with me and be like that was a ghost or whatever, but they genuinely were like it was a ghost. I'm like, that was a bag, right, And it was just weird how the two were very like insistent upon it. And then you know when we got home, like they were like telling my aunt right, blah blah blah, And I was like, that's up bad going on with you. But then that was your first, your first step as a career gas lighter. Yeah, what are you talking about? There

ain't known, there's nothing there. Meanwhile, I'm so scared anyway, Well enough ghostock. Laura, thank you so much for joining us on the daily zeitgeist has been a pleasure. Where can people find you, follow you and more importantly, get that book help your help you climb the charts. Thank you, um, thank you guys for having me. This has been so much fun. I um the only one pod dot com is the name of my website and there you can find everything, the book, the bios, the Instagram which is

Laura at Laura Cathcart Robbins. No one knows how to Spellcalthcart. It's at h crt Robbins with two b's, N and s. I'm miss Cathcart Robbins on TikTok and I think I'm the same thing on Twitter, and but the only one pot dot com. If you go there, and you can buy the book anywhere that books are being sold as a Simon and Schuster book. You can buy it on their site. You can buy on Amazon, Bruns and Noble, your indie bookstore. Please support indie bookstores. They are dying

and they need your support. So if you have one in your neighborhood, go and if even if it's not there, order it from there, but get it from there. And yeah, and then the podcast is the only one in the room and love to have you guys take a listen to the podcast as well. Yeah, please please. And is there a tweet or other work of social media that you've been enjoying. I have really been enjoying. It's Leslie Jones.

And this goes back to the Woke Conversation calling out of Florida's Governor Ron de Santis for racism, saying that his erasure of black history is nothing short of racism and that she's angry about it, and she's few curious in the post. So I've been sending it around to different people because I just think that she articulates in this very very outraged way so perfectly what we've been

thinking and scared too. Like she talks about the n double acp issuing a travel warning to black people about Florida and like this is a place that doesn't that doesn't love us anymore, right, yeah, truly, I mean especially, I mean it's it's mind blowing how obtuse conservatives act, and like I don't see how that changes anything, right, if like, if there's no context to something that hastical significance, you're like, what as long as you all of history

and yes, you know, yes that's half in America that

I guess this is crazy. But it's wild though too, that like their biggest fear is truly that people are aware, you know what I mean, Like, and that is the biggest, the most frightening thing, even when it goes along with like what was like there's a recently a film that they pulled out of schools that were like yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah, because a parent said they were afraid their white child would learn about the racism that black kids were facing.

Or still do. And you're like, excuse me, your fears that they'll learn about the world. Yeah, really that was disingenuous though, right, Like the thing I saw was like the parents like this one might teach my kid to be racist, and it's like, yeah, okay, no, no, well, I mean I think that's either way. They're just mainlining

the really stupid talking points. And yeah, I think because at the end of the day, for them, they do feel that there is some kind of karmic debt, whether or not they feel responsible for it, that does exist, and it's more about acknowledging it or not. And I think that's karmic debt. It's fucking economic debt. Yeah, I'm not saying I think. Wow, people look at and sent you're like, yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. It's like,

it's not about that motherfucker. Yes, it's not about We're not looking for you right now, we're saying it actually observe what is happening and understand the system that exists, and then work with us to dismantle it. But again, equity to somebody who's been in the oppressor's seat looks like yeah different, yeah, exactly. So take the context out and Rosa Parks was just some lady out of us

who really was rude to a guy. Right, I guess honestly how it looks if you because I think in that telling of it they say she was a part of a different group or something. So really, yeah, it's really obscene honestly. Given Republicans, it's a little while they don't pivot that into and that's why there shouldn't be public transportation or public anything. I know. Right, it's like

somehow that's a bridge too far. Maybe not, you know why, I'll say, with it a year or someone will make that pitch in seriously, Oh yeah, they're all private everything. I mean, it's oh, it's always all private everything with you know, hey, all the clouds. I guess that is stringing all the clowns and your te How about you? Where could you find you? Follow you? And what's a

tweet that you like? Because I haven't looked on social media as much as I like, and I usually just look at your likes sometimes because I had to scroll through by shit. Um, I actually probably the best place now, especially again with the writer strike coming up my podcast is this racist We are doing as much premium stuff

as we can, so we start. We have had a thing going stub optimal Pods dot com um and the show that is still odd Gooing that I'm really happy with is uh, have you guys had Matt Apodaca on the show before. I'm sure you have. I don't think we have, but I know. I mean, he's always like, we're always one degree away from Matt. Yeah, funny, funny man. Matt Apa and I have been doing this thing where we watch a children's show, Chippendale's Park Life, which is

for toddlers. It is there are no words in it. It is just like coups and giggles. And we've been doing watch alongs of that called Dale Dudes. I'm very proud of this thing that is adult men watching something that's for literally subverbal children. Yeah, but I know, but with how intelligent you are in Matt, like, good analysis is what I'm really interested. It's too but I'm very proud of it. It's so stupid anyway, souls. Actually, I do did want to tag a thing, Laura said. There's

also there's a new ish bookstore in Pasadena called Octavia's Bookshelf. Yes, yeah, I just went there. Oh my god. I still have it, but yeah, that's a black phoned um first black owned bookstore in Pasadena, which probably is. I mean, black people couldn't own in Pasadena up until like the seventies or some shit like it. It was that, it was it was fat, I guess. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's where all the publishers went to be like, oh, elasis, shiitthole,

let's take our millions over here anyway. So yeah, just just wanting to to that. And then, in the spirit of the wild pivots on this show, my my tweet that I've liked is Honestly I'm ashamed to say it, but I already have it pulled up. Um. So it's from my friend Matt Toby. Um. It was just one of those quote tweets in response to, like, what's a little known fact about your profession that would make people you know? And he wrote, people die at the dick

sucking factory all the time. And that's a joke, son, a stupid joke. Literally, a shaved depth at it. But I don't have anything better. I love it. I love it. Uh yeah, that's that's also. I think I actually did see that in your likes yesterday and or maybe maybe to death anyway, Um what else? You find me at

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