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be joined by one of the very faces on mountain. Zitemore, an Emmy nominated writer, artist, comedian behind many acclaimed podcast the author of the upcoming New York Times bestseller Raw Dog. She's here all week, folks. It's Jamie. Just to Jamie Gel living in as Ebony War. She took the Minion trangleing Andy, just a hot Dog boy by Raises South of Brighton. He took the Minion trangle in Andy, where I'm gonna actually go into a third verse because it's

the best. One singer in a smoke gay room turner, A smell of hot dog beef for few bars, hot paker, jem Hey good on the hot dog beef perfume hot dog. Yes, oh my god, that's from at Russell Housefield. Thanks Russell. That really that truly like got me out of bed this morning. Is that? Are you wearing hot dog beef perfume? Oh? You know it? What a lovely scent? The tie in, Well, Jamie, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat

by one of our favorites. One of your favorites. A stand up comedian, writer, producer, podcaster who you know from lady to lady. She's performed everywhere from a basement in whitesburag Kentucky, to the stages of the Kennedy Center. It's Brandy Boza. Hey, Brandy, you're a fine girl. What a good wife you would be. I'll just sing the actual song, No, but you brow one for me. That's fine shit shatter style, just like real meaningful brandy, A fine girl. Yeah, what

a good wife you would be. I'm a filthy sailor and I like may boat more than you. And you'll deal with it because most men are bad. What a time the seventies were where you could just have like a weird little sea shanty song that was like a charted yeah, really good charts. Yeah charted Yeah yeah yeah. Looking Glass Brandy by looking Glass is a pretty big deal, big song. Yeah, they're they're one hit wonder but there And I've listened to the rest of Looking Glasses albums

to be like, is there anything else here? Any answers? No? Any other gems? Are all of their songs like about a forgotten time of people like living in sea villages? It feels like it. Yeah, I wish I wish it had been more of a concept album. Yeah, but no, I think it was just um ludes is what was happening at the time, right, Yeah, I never did ludes.

I think ludes were like gone by the time I was doing drugs, But like that, is that the explanation for the seventies and like the because like there was also like a bunch of led Zeppelin albums around that same time that were like taking place in like pagan times. Yes, partially, I'm just wondering, like was there something about ludes and just like mentally existing in a different time. I think probably I don't fully know what a lude did. Is it like a is it an upper or a downer

or a way down, a way downer. Yeah, it's the one I only know it from Wolf of Wall Street where time stand up. Yeah, he yes, that's like the best scene in the whole movie. I used to have like a whole what I learned about coeludes when I used to be creating a really vast background story to my dog. I wrote in some villains for him called the lude dudes. The lude dudes were always after him because he had a capsule full of ludes in his backyard, and the loot dudes were jones in for it. But

they're but they're downers. So if the loud dudes are operating at full capacity, you know they're moving pretty slow. They're not very viable opponents. Just the easiest people to have age like they take zombies and they're like slow zombies too fast. We needed to slow that down a little bit, put that on extra easy. Nice. A drug time capsule is an interesting idea that I guess not all drugs would hold up very well, but at least ludes.

I think we're pharmaceutical, right, I think, yeah, I think that they had a pretty good they had a pretty good shelf life. And and even I feel like if you want ludes bad enough, you'd be willing to take a chance of having a sour loud or whatever. Yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah, all right, Well, that's all we're talking about today, is Brandy. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, a

couple of things we're talking about today. There is something going around called the fifteen minute city conspiracy theory that I mean, it's just the fifteen minute city is an idea and then it is being turned into a conspiracy theory on the right. And I just want to talk about what how how great this idea could be, and just how how dumb the response is. But from the internet. Bad job, Internet, Yeah, do better. We're going to talk

about the Supreme Court student loan hearing. Maybe I don't know. I don't I don't understand any of this shit. I feel like generally Supreme Court stuff is like people just like talking themselves down a weird like rabbit hole of like linguistic reasoning that doesn't totally like that. There's this thing called the Major Questions Doctrine that is like, this whole thing is now hinging on, and it's the Supreme Court being like, if it's a big enough deal, we

don't have to listen to anyone. Is essentially the idea, but they it's like somehow get given it like legal precedent. So I don't know, Well, we might talk about that. We'll see how we feel. There is a new Peter Pan live action movie, and it is the first of these animated live action Disney remakes that I'm actually kind

of interested in. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about Chris Rock doing a live special on Netflix, because Netflix is just fully becoming They're like, what about live television? Did hear us out here? For a second you were saying Chris Rock was Peter Pan, And I was like intrigued, intrigued by that version. I know it would be intriguing.

We might get to Mark Wahlberg, Like it seems like everyone just remembered that Mark Wahlberg is a piece of shit all at once, so I might even talk about that. And we're entering the Mark Wahlberg Forty Day Challenge, otherwise known as LENT. He went on The Today Show and the Lower Third during a segment in which he was absolutely talking about Lent, was labeled the Mark Wahlberg forty Bay Challenge, and I fucking hate Mark Wahlberg. And that's

the greatest thing I've ever heard. That's so great. It didn't branding it as such because he is like America's top Catholic. Like, but amazingly, when the Pope came to Philadelphia, they're like, Mark Wahlberg should introduce the Pope, and he did. That's who America came up with. What a fuck. He's such a he's such a horrible person. And yet his rebrand of Lent, Yeah, I thought it was. It was

pretty pretty powerful. M Is it any specifics or he's just like, you gotta not eat meat on Fridays or whatever. I honestly didn't watch the full segment. I don't like Dotsjack. I don't like what he has to say, but I do like that he wakes up at three in the morning. It just seems like, yeah, exactly as unhinged as you would think. But but we but the culture has chosen

to love him anyways. Which I start waking up at two thirty in the morning just to make sure that I'm awake when Mark Wallberg wakes up so he doesn't have one over on me. Well, yeah, because you want to be Ted's favorite friend always of course. Yeah. I did google Mark Walberg forty j challenge and just a picture of him with the Black Friday or as sorry ash Wednesdays on his head. It's been a minute since I've done any of that. Shop. I was like, wait, which one is it? Well, I do the ashes on

my head for a Black Friday? Yeah, yeah, seriously, yeah, and get ready it's my war paint. Well it confuses people just enough that you can slip in for that TV deal, you know what I mean. They're like, wait, what time of year is it? But he looks just annoyed in a black cross on his forehead. It's great.

He always looks annoyed, exasperate, exasperated, His resting face. Yeah, all right, so all of that, some of that maybe I don't know, maybe more at first, Brandy, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history. I mean, within the last five minutes, I

have googled Queludes and Mark Wahlberg. But before that this so it's been reigning in Los Angeles, and I, as I was stuck at home, like in the background just as white noise, I put on the bald eagle cams that are happening in Big Bear currently, so as I've just been watching them for several days, I've just been googling bald eagle facts because I just here's the thing. I want to relate all of my underrated, overrated, all of it is, all of it is about the eagles.

I just need to put it all out there, because here's the thing. These eagles they're doing it. They're amazing, They're very great birds. They're getting pelted with snow up there and overrated comment sections because I do not need people tell them these eagles how to eagle, like they know any better, which is why I went out of my way to like google a bunch of eagle facts.

Because there's people that are like, they're these two eagles are laying on two eggs trying to hatch them, and everyone thinks if they go to get a fish that their eggs are freezing and they're going to die, and are telling these eagles that they don't know how to

be eagles. I it's a people are comment. There's people in the comments section being like these eagles suck at yes, sitting on Yeah, it sounds like relationship TikTok, like that were like or any parenting video I've ever seen where they're like Nope, there's no way, wouldn't be me, or like you don't love your husband there, but they're bullying the eagles who would not possibly receive their feedback. Yes, they're putting it all on the eagles. And there are people.

So the eagles names are Jackie and Shadow and which there's two very different vibed names, so I don't ye know, Wow, definitely two different people got to name those, Yeah, exactly, But jack is Jackie the male ego or eagle she is, she is the lady Jackie is the lady Shadow. Oh that's like an army girl that marries a goth husband. Shadow exactly. And here's the thing like Jackie will be on the nest for like hours on end, and then she will get hungry and go get a fish, and

then everyone will yell at her. But then then Shadow will come in and he will sit on the eggs for like five minutes, and everyone's like, oh my god, what a great husband. He's the best bird. People. People are losing. People are putting so much onto these eagles, and I'm like, they're eagles. They they know what to do. Leave them alone. This is not a gendered thing. This is not I'm sorry your husband left you. That is not shadows problem. I'm sorry shallow Shadow is paying his alimony.

I'm sorry he's not fucking the waitress down the street instead. Like I don't know why. I love the idea of anyone of any gender watching this dynamic and being like, why can't my spouse be more like Shadow? Like the eagle that's bully. What is happening on the online It's amazing. There's a woman named Sandy that is writing like daily updates on these eagles, and like a couple days ago, she had to be like, you know, the negativity in the comments is not helping the eagles. They know how

to eagle better than us. It is our job just to observe what's happening. Yes, so for her. Yeah, it also Shadow loves me. Shadows an incredible lover, and you couldn't possibly understand you couldn't possibly understand him. That's exactly truly insane, so wild. I did not think it was going to get this deep, but I've just been watching people just have brainworms about eagles that are just being beautiful and just making hatching eggs. That's fine, these eggs

don't hatch, They're going to cancel the eagles, that's right. Yeah, well, well maybe if they've been eagling a little bit different, that wouldn't be happening. Oh god, I am gonna watch. Hearing stuff like this always scares me because I'm like, oh, if if a couple of things go wrong in my life, I could be that commenter. Yeah, like that could be that eagle, just like on a live video feed parenting. If I choose the wrong potion when the when the witch shows up in my house, that could be me.

That's pretty scary. Yeah, what is something you think is underrated? Oh? I mean just like Sandy's she's just not getting the do that she deserves. I think paying it to like just yeah, Sandy's up recaps, Sandy's Eagles recaps deserve more than they're getting because they don't have a comment section. And I think people are just only are interested in parts of the Internet where their voices can be heard and not just reading and learning. Because here's the thing.

At first, at first, like this eagle Jackie was sitting on the nest and she was getting pelted with snow, and I was like, oh God, is she in trouble? And then I googled and I saw that actually, eagles have several layers of feathers that keep them extreme warm and their basic body temperatures one hundred and five degrees and they thrive and sto snow. And I was like, oh, okay, so she's fine as opposed to being like, somebody help her. Just google a fact once underrated facts. I want somebody

do something. Evolution did it turns out, yeah, they always seem to be in fairly inhospitable territory, like yeah, they're like on mountains and shit, yeah they live in Alaska and stuff. They're fine in Big Bear, right, Yeah, But it's all these it's just all la people being like that looks so cold. It was fifty here the other day, so I can identify. I know she doesn't have a fashion scarf. What will she do? Like what if the eagle was wearing an Infinity scarf? Maybe if she had

done that, the exode hatched a little bit fast. Exactly. I do have to give a shout out to the name Shadow, because there's a there's a DJ named Shadow Skithens when I was young who did like he was like adult contemporary Casey Cason, and that that name always stuck with me. Is like very over the top, but like kind of dope, like just Shadows Stevens saw. So I'm gonna go ahead and say Shadow is an underrated name to give your eagle or a child or DJ. Yeah,

I think it's an overrated name for a dog. Probably there was a lot of dogs named Shadow, yes, but but what about a son and that that is a powerful um. I would like more Shadows than Brashton's going forward. So people, can you know fix that you really hear the name that rashed him? Yeah, yelled at a kid in a subway like four years and that was like Brashton, you couldn't decide between Brandon and Ashton. Just we don't need mash up names, overrated mash up names. Just pick one.

Stick to your decision, trust yourself. You're making an indecisive child from Rashton is a very strong decision. That's just like you. You are, like they need to be a snowboarder or a professional surfer or nothing. That's it. There are certain names where are just like, well, their fate is sealed. I guess. I guess Shadow would be one of those as well. So maybe I should shut the fuck up on Kidow. So it is like Merlin, Like

there's a Merlin. You can't just name someone Merlin. They have to be a music teacher or live in the woods. A baby named Merlin is really wild. I honestly, baby Merlin. I don't hate that idea, but it is a very kind of a scary thing to do to a child. Yeah, then they just go with Merle to like kind of whatever whatever their parents don't want them to do. Yeah, yeah, all right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about the fifth teen minute City and other stuff,

and we're back. And yeah, so you may have noticed online if you're terminally online that there's been a lot of talk about fifteen city the fifteen minute city concept lately, which it's just a like urban planning term, but according to the Internet, it is a dystopian plot to enslave the masses. The idea is pretty hard to argue with. It's that people should be within a roughly fifteen minute walk or bike ride from the things they need like food, schooling,

and healthcare. That way people aren't forced to drive everywhere and further destroy the planet. It's an idea that's like been popular in urban planning circles for a long time time. It's become a key part of some countries political policies, like at Paris, they have a mayoral candidate who based her twenty twenty reelection campaign on a plan to create

fifteen minute cities. But some people are responding to this by claiming that it will create like sci fi districts where people will be fined for leaving, and it's just like all they've just resorted to fiction to make it like kind of scared, which I think is because it's this is like a powerful idea and it's also very nonprofitable or like goes against the grain of like the modern kind of capitalists ethos, where you know, just like

organize things based on whatever's going to make the most money. But I just I think that like if we keep pushing with this idea, it will become enormously popular because like just think about like all my favorite like parts of dystopian movies. They really come back to And I've said this before, but like it's really a fantasy about having a walkable city, Like that's yea dystopian movies are about it's like man, like all the most like iconic scenes from I am legend, the ones that I remember

are not like the zombie ones. They are him playing golf, like walking down the middle of the street in Times Square and like a deer like running by him, or like the walking Dead. Like the most iconic images them like walking into a city on an abandoned highway and like just there being no cars. And I think they just think our imagination like craves a world without traffic and cars more than people realize. And just like how much this would I don't know, like just make make service.

I mean, I guess it doesn't really resolve making these

like serve. This is more affordable for people, but like wacka bole cities just and having access to things nearby is like if their access is such a huge issue, it's so I mean, I guess I'm not surprised that the backlash has been is coming from where it's coming from and is being like put in that way, but it's just so like, I don't know, anytime a simple useful concept like this that would also just be like lovely too is argued against, it feels like there's so

much internal contradiction because like I think like a lot of like super capitalists are always like, oh, we need to return to something, which this would be like fucking villages and like that communities, but they're like, well, not that kind of return, like things should still be far away, and like you know, poorer neighborhoods shouldn't have access to basic things and blah blah blah blah blah. It's so wild because like, so I live in I live in the Eagle Rock here in Los ange List, and like

my my town like is a little walkable city. I rarely leave. I can walk to anything or ride my bike to basically anything I need. Yeah, oh I can get to that it's less than a mile. For me, I got a Chucky cheese less than a mile. That's the dream. That's an American dream for everybody. Chuck e cheese, that's I don't know, the one an eagle Rock that's

next to the Target and next to the fish market. Uh. It's great, but like it, it's amazing too because everybody is like very like involved in like wanting all these businesses to thrive. We all know the people that work there, like people I've like friends with, my neighbors, like I feel like I have an actual community, and like other parts of the city I've lived in, I haven't had that. And it's like it's it's great. There's nothing wrong with this.

It's it's the way that you should be. It's live live locally. I went over to the Silver Lake last night for the first time in like months because I was like, oh, I guess I could go eat somewhere else. Why not, right? And so, what have you done now that they like put a tracking bracelet on you and don't let you leave your district, Because that's what I mean, that is what they're trying to do. Yeah, yeah, clearly,

but that Yeah, some extremists have misinterpreted the idea. The plan merely gives people the freedom to live locally, does not force them to do so. But Jamie, it's a really good point about like returning to something, because that does seem to be the thing that the right always wants to do. But it's like a very specific period that didn't actually really exist, but like it's in their mind.

It's like how the nineteen fifties and early nineteen sixties were with like a bunch of houses that look the same and everybody driving to work, like everyone had a Transatlantic accent, like ya that never happened at the beginning of the twentieth century. Like cars were that this novelty that only rich people could afford, and they were wildly unpopular because people were like, you keep running over our kids. Rich people, well, like you're just driving way too fast.

So like there were all these pushes by cities to make it illegal to make cars that went over like twenty miles per hour, and the politicians and car companies conspired to like cram this poison pill into our world. And now we have this like world that is completely like gritted off by you know, cars and streets and like we just like, you know, my kids can't play outside of the house without me worrying they're going to

get run over by a car. Like we're prisoners, like on our own blocks because we're hemmed in by roads. And I just I think it like weighs on us, like metaphysically more than we realize because we just don't We just want to be able to like run free,

you know, for sure. For sure. Well, and it's wild too, because it's like so many like when you drive through like small town America and stuff, like most small towns have a main street where everything is, and like you know, you can drive or you know, to there and then walk and do whatever you need to, even if it's a kind of a big area like it's it's it's it's it's extremely stupid to have a problem with this, right,

I mean, the only the only specific question. I mean I would have like more specific questions about like how this would look and like how I don't know, I mean, I understand why there's questions about it, but this angle of like interrogating it is so disingenuous where I would be more afraid of like a Rick Caruso kind of yablution where it's like, well, every neighborhood is a very specialized mall now, and like only certain people are allowed

access to it. But it's like the idea that as it's being presented, it's not specific enough to even like, I mean, those are just like questions I would have. Yeah, yeah, no exactly. It's like you still want your mom and pops. I think maybe there's something to people like not being like I don't how dare you take the choice of going to all these different places away for me? And it's like no one's doing that. They just want some to be a lot easier to get to, and then

maybe that's just the one you go to. It's nice to be a local out of place, right are you guys? Like how do you have like a cashier anywhere that like is like hey, how you doing, or like recognize as you guys. It's the best. Yeah. I got to introduce my friends to my bodega guy this week and it rock. Yeah, he's really gass to be up. I

wasn't expecting it. It was awesome saying it's great. Yeah, I mean, for sure, they're legitimate concerns with like any implementation of this especially like if it's just being done unregulated by American capitalism, the course, like inequality is going to become a big part of it, and it will be very bad for poor areas, like like with anything, but of course the current situation is already bad for

poor areas. And I don't know that there was like this moment during the pandemic where New York City was like, maybe we should just not have cars because it's like really nice in Manhattan when like there there aren't cars and like all these streets are walkable, and I'm sure there was some massive concerted effort by the you know, local commerce like whatever to to push back on that, but it just feels like, I don't know, I think

people want this more than we realize. Like if there if there was just like a no car like a big, sprawling, no car like neighborhood in the middle of any city, like it would become like such a fun place to

like be a part of, like any city. Cities where there's like just walk streets like that, those become so much better than like places you want to be more than just stroves like street street road combinations that are just like that's that's an actual like urban planning term where they Yeah, well it's it's like a massive Yeah, me and Roman where what was Roman saying? He was

saying the funniest thing the other day. No, it's it's this idea that like American cities like have these things like practically like this should be a street like just given where it is that there are houses along it, but they turn it into a road or vice versa.

I forget like which is which, but like one is like you know, with speed limits like above fifty miles per hour and traffic lights and complicated like multiple lanes and shit like that, and they just like kind of crammed those in where they don't belong and every every part of the valley, that's what you're talking about. Yeah, people se in a residential area constantly. Yeah yeah, Yeah, there's just like no reason that this be a conversation

that people are open to. I feel like obviously there are I think there are like plenty of like red flags of like how would this be implemented to like best serve everybody? But that, But it's like you've got fucking Jordan Peterson like against this as like a concept or whatever. You're well, I don't know. That's not Yeah, that's that is who popularized the panic. He tweeted about the tyrannical fifteen minute City, and it soon became like

this thing. I think the people that have problems with it are the ones whose bodega guys don't like them. I think if your local people are like hmmm, and they're not like, they don't want to deal with you in a regular basis, then I think you having to deal with that same person and maybe have to like change your behavior and be slightly more agreeable is extremely offensive to you. So disliked in their own communities don't

want more accessible communities, people start throwing tomatoes at them. Yeah, exactly right. Yes, we will be bringing back the stockades unfortunately, and we'll just be throwing tomatoes at Jordan Peterson for forty five minutes a day. That will be his job. I would love that. Let's get battle store at the Americana Open. Our writer JM was researching this and he said, this is how he found out that he unfortunately lives

very close to Jordan Peterson. And also, Jordan Peterson lives fifteen minutes away from anything he'd ever need, like a fifteen minute walk away from anything you'd ever need, so of course, of course, yeah, yeah, but he hasn't tipped anybody in like fifteen years, so everybody gives him bad service. Yeah, it's like, well what do you of course, like just I don't know, just go back to letting your daughter feju meet, like yeah, and well it wasn't quayluds, but

it was something else that. Yeah, Virginia Slims, three major groups of the nineteen seventies, and a gallon of milk? What are you? My dad? He was on benzos unfortunately, so yeah, not your dad, Jordan Peterson. The conspiratorial panic over this theory is manifesting in the real world in Oxfordshire in the UK, where they were like planning to filter traffic down to be like make their city more livable.

Led to a bunch of discussion. There's a large protest and like a lot of people showed up being like no fifteen minute neighborhoods, Like with signs saying fifteen minute neighborhoods. How long did it take them to get there? Yeah? And then in Toronto, McMansion developer and anti lockdown person is running for mayor and claiming that the fifteen minute city idea is part of a larger conspiracy by a

global elite to limit personal freedom. And this all all like, I'm just wanting us to go back to a time when people were like, hey, rich people stopped running over our kids, Like when that was common sense. That like, now that's a strictly ideological uh yeah yeah. And also he's a real estate developer, that that guy, so of course he is. Yeah, that's so depressing. Supreme Court. What do we think, fans thumbs up or thumbs down? The Supreme Court? We love him, do we, folks? They have

awesome merch. Yeah, you say awesome merch. Yeah. The last time I was in Portland, I went to the girl Boss store, I don't remember what it was called, and I got a whole shelf of our merch. You know, yeah, great, right, I think it's great. Yeah, you know, obviously we should abolish it. But what hijiens are they up to today? Well, they're deciding whether the government is allowed to forgive student loan debt or you know, forgive a portion of student

loan debt, as Joe Biden was hoping to do. And so there are two cases that they're looking at ones brought by two private citizens who are arguing that the administration unfairly excluded some, including those who have commercially held loans, from debt cancelation. So be good. Yeah, like that's and also that the administration pushed it through without allowing for a period of public comment. Yes good, but yes, let's

talk about that. The other challenge is from six Republican led states in Nebraska, Missouri, Arkansas, Iowa, Kansas, and South Carolina, claiming that the Department of Education doesn't have the authority cancel student loan debt. And so, I mean, people who understand legal stuff are like it doesn't like it should be a question of like how this is harming them, Like that's supposed to be the first question that gets asked is like, okay, you're bringing this case, how is

this affecting you? But instead, because we have this super conservative Supreme Court, it's fallen under the Major Questions doctrine, which is just a legal doctrine invented by Republicans that allows the court to tighten its leash on government agencies

in matters of quote critical political and economic significance. So basically, the Court no longer defers to the government if it has a major question that sounds like a lazy, like bad b Marvel movie point the major questions doctrine, You're like, yeah, totally, I think I think Marvel would have workshopped it, even I guess Golden age Marvel would have workshopped it a

little bit more, maybe punched that up a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, But they've all already used the major questions doctrine to strike down at least three Biden administration policies that the Republican Party opposes, and it was a key part of the brief written by Republican States challenging the program, and so far during the hearings, it's been invoked repeatedly by conservative justice is like John Roberts, who likened Biden's student

loan cancelation to Trump's plan to deport the Dreamers. Again, Yeah, like, where who's being harmed? Here? Is it? But like I would at least like to hear them say who they think is being harmed, because it's like rich people who are getting the interest payments. I guess, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Like it's it's the corporations who like have the bundled loan debt you know, and like bought it for billions of dollars five years ago or whatever. Yeah, that they've

probably already made this point with with the interest. It's all just been fake money that they've just like been pulling from people. Anyway, if I was friends with any of these paralegals, because they so Supreme Court justices, they've got a team that works around them. Switch means they

have some relatively young people that work near them. And if you know anybody that knows anybody that is friends of the paralegal, how about we blackmail them, to blackmail the Supreme Court justices to push this through and maybe everything else too. But I think this is a way in because like now they're messing with your money. Yeah right, it's my theory. Like I think it's we just need to Like there's bad photos of these people out there,

let's get them. Get them. The young people who work for Brett Kavanaugh are probably the worst, most boring, but yeah, they probably do have like weird somebody knows them and has a bad photo of them. This is a it's all a pyramid scheme to get to taking down the Supreme Court. Definitely black photographs of them holding a leash that has a human at the other end. Yeah, sure, exactly, fret hazing or something. Yeah, let's get those photos. God,

who who knows what? Yeah? What what the CAVNAT employees

are sitting on. It's so it's like, I mean, obviously this is extremely frustrating from a student perspective too, but it's just like a continued um My, my younger brother has a ton of student debt and is like not only you know, frustrated to see this conversation like start and stop and start and stop in so many ways, but it becomes like a whole second job to have to uh like try to figure out what the fuck is going on what you qualify for versus what you

don't because like when I don't know, like we've all had student loans. When you're getting student loans, you're not really I mean in the same way that like you're not really taught how to do your taxes or other ship where you're getting completely fucked u. And it's like just not understanding how it works with student loans. It's like I had no idea what the difference between a private and a public Like, like I was just like, this are what they're offering me and I'm supposed to

go to school or like that's what. That's a whole separate issue. But it's so like it's so frustrating to see like students and people you know, who are way beyond student age to who are still sort of like hampered by these loans trying to figure out what they even fucking qualify for it. I mean, it's and unfortunately, I mean, like the Bidens administration does seem like they're making an honest effort to like push this through. It's

just it's nuts. Yeah, it's insane. It's like I remember being eighteen in college and I signed up for a credit card because they gave me a T shirt that said the price is wrong, bitch, and I it messed up my credit for years, but I wanted that T shirt, you know, like that person should not be affected for years. Yeah.

There's like people outside, like just outside walk around colleges signing kids up for credit cards and you got like a funny T shirt if you signed up for it, and it was like, oh, I'm all, this is that's the same way you basically you're picking in student loans. That's the amount of thought that's really going into it is this how tasted Tease was profitable for so long

they were like TI to a major credit card corporation. Wo, I wish I still had it, and that sure costs me a lot and then they put you in a situation where the price was wrong. But yeah, you know it was yeah what they were about to do. Yeah, exactly. It's just more profitable for them to make our day to day lives as confusing as possible. Like the tax the fact that we have the tax paying like mess that we have and like every other country's just like we just send you a bill, like and then do

you pay it? And if you have questions you can ask them, but like you you don't have to do the bureaucratic work that is required to like pay taxes and in our country like that, that's kind of create that's our job, like it's I mean, and it's just I don't really I mean, I honestly I don't understand like what the timeline on it. It looks like this is just sort of kicking the kicking the ball further

down the field sort of yet again on this issue. Yeah, but it's so like it it's like a lot of I guess, like right leading legislation and like centrist legislation as well. It just is so shortsighted, you know, because it's like sometimes I do feel like the American government and definitely the Supreme Court truly does act like there's only like eleven more habitable years on Earth and that's why they would make these decisions because it's like, well,

you know it's on a long enough timeline. Then it's like you're actively discouraging the public to get more education, like and they're like, you're just trying to make you're you want a whole country of goofs. And then and then you know, constantly complain that your country's falling behind and um thought, you know whatever, it's all so contradictory and ridiculous. Well yeah, and then he put it on the person instead of like any institutions, and it's like,

you know, you're shamed for not doing the work or not. Yeah, it benefits them to keep education as restricted to only the their wealthy children as possible, right, Like that's that's what they are in it for, and that any anything like this also is like a wealth transferral from like the dying, like baby boomer generation who like still run Fortune five hundred companies and bank like major banks to young people, and they are they've shown that, like their

strategy is keep all the money for as and decision making as for as long as possible, because their whole you know, infrastructure they've built for making money is contingent on fucking us over and destroying the earth that we're all going to have to live on. So well see, and baby boomers and their parents like benefited so significantly from better public education options and like and from more accessible you know, college options that were affordable. Well you know, um, yeah,

burn the sufarium court down. Yeah, please literally or figuratively. At this point, I don't really care get rid of it. It's got to come worried about it. Yeah. Brent Kavanaugh compared Biden's plan to help people plague by crippling debt to Truman sending troops into Korea and bushes Post nine to eleven abuses of power, which, by the way, he must have been on board with. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, those are those are the same thing. I love to

hear what the old rapist is thinking. He's truly like that. We talked about the story a while back that that there is like baby powder Johnson Johnson baby powder was giving people cancer the whole time because it contained talcum powder. And the reason they were able to keep doing that and evaged any like sanctions or you know attention of the EPA and you know consumer protect Protection Services is because they had they were spending millions and millions of dollars.

They were paying this one lobbyist four point five million dollars a year and or something really crazy like that a year in the nineteen seventies. And that lobbyist was Brett Kavanaugh's dad. So like it's just a it goes deep, it goes deep. Like there it is a generational like cancer on this country that is just like, yeah, disgusting. Yeah, the worst, the worst. Wot's the worst. Yeah, let's take a quick break, we'll come back. We'll talk about something

less serious, and we're back. And we talked on trending, I guess it was yesterday or two days ago, about how there's new character images for the Little Mermaid, and I have some grave concerns about about what this how this movie is going to work when it comes to the undersea creatures, who are who the you know, the original movie relies on to be adorable and you know, some something that fans empathize with, and they released like the fan art of Sebastian the Crab, and it is

a crab. It is just a crab crab with like eyes on the end of a st like no mouth. I mean, like you would think that they would have like learned from the Lion King reboot that like actual photo realistic animals don't emote in a way that people can recognize. Yeah, like it just doesn't natural against Jamie. Jamie is one of the ten most profitable movies of

all times. Or that doesn't mean that it was because of that, I know, but they did not learn that lesson from that movie, even though yes, that was My entire experience is like, like nature documentaries are much better at making me give a fuck about like an animal's welfare than this, where it's just like you have to keep the thing's head still so that we can see its lips moving along with the words, and you know,

it's just it just really didn't work. And I feel like undersea creatures and particularly crap are like very portly suited for my ability at least to be like, yeah with that what that character is saying, like I've never known to have a pet crab, Like it's not hermit crabs, but like it's like no one's like a blue crab as a pet. There's scavengers at the seat. Yeah, it's a bug. I feel bad because it's like, you know,

I love Hallie Bailey. I'm like, but it's like, there's no way this movie is gonna be It's it's gonna suck, and then everyone's gonna say that it sucks because they're racist and not because these movies suck. Yeah, right, Melissa McCarthy looks like she's an iParty costumes. I also don't understand, like how these movies look so cheap because they cost so much money to make they're so dark. I don't know.

I did think it was funny that James Cameron I think he said, like in an interview, because he's just like the meanest person. He's the biggest bitch in the world, Like he's just it looks like shit. Want to see you real underwaters? Come see teen Sigourney Weaver in My Perverted Little Movie, which I did, And what did you think of that? By the way, we haven't I know you are an Avatar fan. I guess. I mean I couldn't tell you three things that happened in that movie.

Now I know that a lot of it really bothered me. Um, and then I know that whole sections made me cry. I don't know. The highs were high, the lows were abysmal. Yes, um, not enough Zoe Isell Donna, but also not enough that big turtle whale that only spoke in Papyrus. Yeah, that was really cool. When the turtle whale said, I can't talk about it, it's too painful. I was laughing us crying. That was cinema to me. But also, a white kid

with dread's named Spider didn't love that. The same villain as the first movie didn't love that, but his performance was so captivating. No, I'm not gonna be mean to a child actor. No Razzies takes here. I'm not going to be mean. But yeah, James Cameron, I think, did say that he saw the trailer to the New Little Mermaid and that the underwater photography looked like shit. I

love how caddy he is. That's amazing. Yeah, so they they have one coming they like even usually they kind of do these knock these at one at a time. But they've also just released the official trailer for Peter Pan and Wendy, which is the studio's latest live action adaptation, and it's you know, I was immediately like I don't want to see this, why, why the fuck does this exist? But it's made by the guy who made The Green Knight. Did you guys see The Green Knight? Which is wild

that he's doing It's so that's kind of cool. Yeah, like The Green Knight? Is this like strange, like meditative, like weird like acid trip of a like movie, It like doesn't make any sense. Oh yeah, definitely a child child director? Perfect, great, Yeah, he weired. He punched it to Disney as The Revenant with flying Kids what and also cited The Lighthouse as an inspiration. Well, he also directed that weird I thought pretty good Pete's Dragon live

action remake. So he has done Disney stuff before, David Lowery, right, yeah, yeah, he did. Like I saw it when it came out. I feel like this was right before. This was like pre Beauty and the Beast, So I feel like it was before they were like this is all we're gonna do now. I don't think it was very successful. But he made like kind of a weird Pete's Dragon reboot that I remember liking. But The Green Knight, I mean,

that movie fucking rips and so sexy. It's great. There's a scene where they're just like walking through the woods and like then they're like a bunch of giant, like giant humans just start like walking through and it's truly. Yeah, I don't know, it's a bizarre kind of trippy movie that like there's no way Disney's gonna let him do anything that cool with this. But of course that detail, like I was, I was ready to just count this out. And then yeah, directed by David Lowry and The Revenant

with Flying Kids. The Revenuet is not my favorite movie, but like that juxtaposition, like bringing The Revenant into a Peter Pan movie in the Lighthouse, which is fucking perverted as hell, I'm excited, and well, yeah, I'm just excited. I hope Bill Dafoe is also in this movie yelling stop check off. I hope that's what happened constantly happening in this movie as well. Duode Laws playing Captain Hook, Jim gaff Gets playing Mister smee, this is gonna be weird.

What a mess. By the way, Willem Dafoe just repeatedly coming in said, stop jacking off would be pretty appropriate to like a nineteen fifties kid, like chut British or actually it was I think it was said in like the eighteen hundreds, which like there was a brief period in at least American history. I don't I don't know that this traveled across the Atlantic, but where the primary concern of Americans was like how to get kids to

stop jerking off? Like everyone like we can't have dance music because the kids are all gonna just start jacking off all the time. And then like they invented like corn flakes to like keep kids from jacking off, Crackers America, The Beautiful Baby. Yeah that's so true, Jamie, so true, a bit more patriotic these, Yeah, well you nailed it.

And then there's a live Chris Rock special coming from Netflix where they're like, what if you like the stuff that you were seeing on the TV was like actually happening in the moment, Like wow, what if what if I told you that? But it's called selective outrage. It's just the latest Chris Rock our that Netflix is are trying to like turn the whole thing into like a super Bowl event. There's gonna be a pre show with Leslie Jones and Jerry Seinfeld and also Matthew McConaughey and

Paul McCartney. For some reason, what I was like, I'm in for Leslie Jones and I think that's it, yeah, and maybe drop off after that. I'll give you Leslie Jones and Matthew McConaughey just because I would like to see her make him uncomfortable. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I feel into any room that would be a great show down because he and really is like the person who's making people uncomfortable in any Yeah, with his just like weird Woody Harrelson, stoner redneck energy and and and his

like vague political aspirations. I think that I really started falling off the mcconaugheytrain when he started having vague political aspirations like no, no, yeah. I feel like his political aspirations were very similar to like Andrew Yang's, Like he could have been a member of the Andrew Yang Party where it was like bear're not doing left or right. Yeah, But anyways, the big news if if all of that

was not eyeball grabbing enough for you. It was just reported that Chris Rock will address the Will Smith slap incident for the first time. God, how many times you need to hear about that. This is according to an anonymous source who I'm having a hard time believing is

not a Netflix publicist, but this is. Yeah, I don't know, I I don't know what people think he's going to say, but like that, so like last year, he performed the week after the Oscars and tickets were like being sold for over seventeen hundred dollars because people were like, oh shit, it's good, we're gonna hear the tea And then like he didn't mention it because he's a stand up comedian and not like a fucking town crier who just like

comes out and talks about whatever you want him to. Yeah, and like fans were like disappointed that he didn't just come out and up end the show, and well, I also don't know what they want him to say, though. It's like such a weird it make any sense take possible at this point too. It's also like about to be the Oscars again. It's been a whole year whole year, and yet we still haven't healed. You know, America is healing, but I think I think this is the only thing

that can truly heal. America is hearing from Chris Rock what he thought it was like when Will Smith slapped him. I I had a real Chris Rock was really kind of haunting me yesterday. I don't really know why, but it was. Do you remember in Madagascar where his zebra character does a bit where he goes circus. I don't know why that. That was on a loop in my head all day yesterday, and I was starting to like dissociate. I gotta say. The weird thing that was in my

head was come loft us up where we belong? Has anyone ever done that? AKA? Like that O the song come left Us up where we belong, but come loft us up where we belong? I was like, all right, is like gang get on it, the New Month, the New World Circus. That's pretty fun, he says. It's like Circus Afro, Circus Afro, Polka dot Polka dot Polka dot Afro. I remember it so clearly. There's some great moments of comedy and hidden in children's films here and there, you know,

oh yeah, fun bright ones that aren't grim. Yeah, like, and I fully believe that Chris Rock just improvised that, and then they had to turn the worst when. I love when voice artists will like improvise something and then it becomes the worst week of an animator's life because they're like, well, I I gotta do whatever the fun that was great? Yeah, I feel like the the fifth funniest writer from the Harvard Lampoon probably didn't like come up with that while they were writing the script. No,

it's so simple, so beautiful. Yeah, all right, well, Brandy, such a pleasure of having you as always on the daily zygeist work here, find you, follow you all that good stuff. Uh yeah, you can hid me in the audience of Will Smiths Snoose or Will Smith's Special, Chris Rocks do Special whatever. Will Smith will be there. I hope. I hope he shows up that slaps the whole crew. I hope that's what happens. It'll be funny. You can

find me on Twitter and Instagram at brand Dazzle. I met Brand Dazzles here on TikTok I'm post I'm trying to post reels and actually do it. Please follow me, so I feel like it matters, even though it doesn't. I am actually gonna be on tour a bunch later this year. I'm gonna be all over the Midwest in April or in yeah, in April, I'm gonna be in Minneapolis, Wisconsin,

all over Indiana, Ohio, Pittsburgh, West Virginia. If you live in any of those places, Brandy Posey dot com will have all the tour dets at info and also if you use bands in town, you can find me in my tour dates on there. My podcast is called Lady the Lady. It comes out every single Wednesday forever. And if you live in La I have a show called Picture This that happens once every six weeks and it's some comedians pared up with animators and they draw your

jokes during your set. Jamie did it recently and it was very fun. Yes, it's my favorite. Yeah, so yeah, fine, google me, you'll find me. That's fine. And is there a tweet or work of media you've been enjoying. I actually watched it came out two years ago, but I watched the Donut King documentary last night and it was

real delightful. Oh, it's really great It's about this Cambodian man named Uncle Ted that came over before the camer Rouge and basically opened learned from the donut shops here how to make donuts, and then all of his family came over for Cambodia escaping and they opened all these donut shops all over LA. And it's basically like, why we have so many donut shops here is because of this man, basically just like giving a bunch of escaped Cambodians an ability to make money and have careers and

like that. We they were have been so popular they've kept dunka Donuts out for forever and they're just these massive yeah, they're they're just it's like a really beautiful story about why we have like so many Cambodian owned donut shops and Los Angeles and it's great, so highly recommend. It's also Jamior Left is a villain origin story because the fact that there's not a lot of dunk At Donuts here, dunk has kept at Bay No I. I've been meaning to watch that for forever. I'm really excited

to see it. It's really good. There's a few twists in it that you're just like Damn. I didn't expect that to happen. But it's like it will make you want to eat donuts, which is always great. Yeah, but it's beautiful. It's a great, great little documentary. Hour and a half. Loved it. There's some content that just like makes me too hungry. I just like, like, I there's a podcast Doughboys that like, I just oh, yeah, like listen to that if I'm like not actively about to

like go to a fast food restaurant. Yeah, very hungry, Yeah, Jamie, Yeah, what wonderful having you? Where can people find you? Follow you? And is there a work of media or tweet that you've been enjoying? Sure it has been. Uh yeah. You can follow me on Twitter at Jamie Loftus help, Instagram, Jamie Christ Superstar. I'll be here all week for crying out loud. Um. Listen to the Bechtel Cast. We've got We've got a bunch of fun live episodes coming out soon.

We went on tour earlier this year. You want my website is fucking useless. If you if you want to know what I was up to in twenty nineteen, I guess you could go check it out. More of a time capsule than anything else. But I'm going on tour with You're Wrong About for most of the spring and then going on a book tour at the end of the spring for my book Raw Dog, which is about hot dogs. And you should, you should, you should preorder it it comes out. You need to pre order it

right now. If you're listening to this, if you're hearing these words, go preorder it. You will not you will love it. It's so good. You guys, your voice is so like clear, It's just it's like if you've enjoyed a Jamie Loftis podcast before. It is like that in prose form. It's like you immediately became one of my favorite writers. Like, it's just it's so good. Everybody needs to go by it right now. Hell yeah, thank you so much. I early, I'm so I'm so grateful that

you read it. We just like we're released a new cover for it and and I'll offer as my media because I have already formed an obsessive relationship with good Reads. The one thing I was told not to do. I they're there are people the book isn't out that there's like advanced reader copies that have been circulating, and I got this. I want to just share a little bit of a review that I got from a woman what I call her an Alley I guess, I guess, not

from a woman named Cheryl. She said, Unfortunately, I did not see much real humor in this book. I am not familiar with Jamie Loftis humor, but it seemed like most of what I suppose was intended to be humor was just vitriol from a very unhappy, foul mouthed lady. The author also brought a lot of sexual innuendo into the book pretty coarsely, while mostly sleeping alone, although traveling with her partner, which got my ass on that one win.

Since miss Loftus thinks America is such a horrible place, I would like to suggest she take the money she received from this book and relocate, maybe to Russia. I honestly do not understand why she was hired to write this. It could have actually been a fun and informative look at hot dogs. And then she um says that she doesn't trust anything I said about history because I'm a socialist.

So you know, Jack, I'm glad you like the book, but clearly it's not for everybody that like the CIA is clearly the CIA pays attention to art, and that that feels like the CIA paid somebody to review your book. Everyone in Yeah, everyone in the CIA's initials our CIA too, so that makes sense that her name is Cheryl Cheryl Yeah, yeah, amazing. Let's see a tweet. I guess the media I'm enjoying is this, Like, I really like poker Face. Have you

guys watched poker Face. It's I've watched the first two episodes. It's I just really like it. I really like Natasha Leoni, I really like I like Ryan Johnson's great. I'm a basic bitch. I like meson Ryan Johnson. So yeah, you can. I feel like people know about poker Face, but you can see that on cock. You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. If you find us on Twitter at daily Zekeeist, We're at d daily Zekeeist on Instagram.

We have a Facebook fan page on a website daily zeitgeist dot com where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Super Producer justin what

song do you think people might be enjoying? So for the listeners, it's already March, but for us on this side of the timeline, it's the last day of February, yeah, aka Black History Month, and they kind of short changed us on the number of days, so I needed to commandeer the first of March for this track. This is a song called ps and Qs by Chicago based artist Mick Jenkins, produced by k Trenada. If you love lyricism and some raw emotion in your hip hop, throw this

track on. He puts as many words that begin with P and Q in this song as possible, so there there's a whole pun going on there, but there is a strong message behind it. It starts off at ten with the emotion and it just it kind of builds up into this nice, really cool thing and there's some really cool guitars going on behind it. So check out this track. This is called ps and Qs by Mick Jenkins and you can find that song in the footnotes.

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