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CopaGandalf vs. NYT, White House Participation Trophies 04.05.23

Apr 05, 202355 minSeason 282Ep. 3
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In episode 1456, Miles and guest co-host, super producer Becca Ramos are joined by comedian, Andrew Ti to discuss... Trump getting rich-white-guy arrested and charged with 34 counts of crime and the reporters lining up outside the courthouse like it's a Taylor Swift concert, Jill Biden offering participation trophies, MTG's 60 Minutes interview (and the failure of legacy media), James Patterson's (AKA CopaGandalf) open letter to the NYT and much more!

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 Becca: my mother might be the most extremely offline human and i am so jealous. #momsoftiktok #guessingcelebrities #fyp

Andrew: Your bones may be in Jeopardy

LISTEN: Rosalia & Rauw Alejandro - Vampiros

1. Trump Arrest Live: Former President Pleads Not Guilty 34 Felony Counts in Hush-Money Case (wsj.com)

2. Trump Indictment: Chaos, Bribes in Line for Court (nymag.com)

3. Angel Reese: Jill Biden's press secretary clarifies White House invitation after player calls it 'A JOKE' | CNN

4. Marjorie Taylor Greene’s ‘60 Minutes’ Segment a Lesson in Legacy Media Fails (thedailybeast.com)

5. New York Times best-seller James Patterson questions book list (nypost.com)

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Speaker 1

Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season two eighty two, Episode three of The Daily Zey Guys. It's still a production of iHeartRadio. It's still a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. Guess what, assholes, It's April fucking twenty. Wait, no, what is it? It's April fit Get in or get out? Guess what passover

begins today. It's also National Nebraska Day, National Deep Dish Pizza Day, National Golfer Broke Day, National Flash Drive Day, and some other things that I'm It's way too many days happening today, so we'll just go with those. My name is Miles Gray, and while I'm not struggling to remember what day of the week it is, you can find me going by this moniker AKA. I might have to call it wood because they might arrest my ass. Maybe send there a big strong man. It makes me

wonder if I'm gone to call it wood. I am filled with much regrad thirty four counties. It good Jessie impression that I get. Okay, shout out to Christie, I'm a Gucci main at Oh shit it on Twitter. I know you sent that one through the discord, but I like Lynnwood references, you know, gott to bring up the esoteric figures from the stop Steel era. So thank you so much for that. And I'm thrilled to be joined

by my co host, a wonderful producer. I'm wonderful, I would say, generational bridge for the elderly into youth culture. Also a fantastic hiller of the community and one of the few Texans and I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm like I like that, I like that. This person's cool. Please welcome to the microphone today's guest host, Becca Robo. Hello, Hello, AKA the anti Texans tech in AKA. I only have so many akas because I don't think about them on

the spot. You don't have to. That's okay. Let the intro speak for itself, even though I just screamed it and it was one giant run on sentence. Thank you so much for joining me today. And you know, Becca, word really fucking honored today to have this guest here, someone who last week we decided we realized may have a really really robust career in homebrew science ahead of them. And this is somebody again you already know I'm going

with this. All I have to tell you is you don't want to catch these fucking hands because welcome to the microphone, Andrew T all right, this one's aspicious. Yes, who's back back again? Andrew's not Jack friend. Now this looks like a japan tea. Read it up. Put all these new stories. Jack still got out on spring beef. So you've got no choice, butt, Andrew tea. That was perfect. That was beautiful. Yeah, bring it down because everything we needed. Wow, welcome, Welcome,

How are Andrew? I mean it took me too long to write that. What's new? Do you have you thought any more about twenty three and tea or chat GPT you know what I have? I really I this uh this comedian Joe Wong who used to be a real ass scientist, texted me the other day and I hadn't talked to him in a while, and I was like, I think we're gonna do this. Wait, so you you you posited this to Joe And he was no, not yeah, he was just like yo, yo, it's been a while.

Like and then he just brought up bio chemistry and I was like, oh, that's right. That was like your actual factual job, right right right? Got to get a stand up. Wow, So I think, okay, I'm gonna pitch him. I'm telling you, I'm gonna give you my DNA. Yeah, you you should. You should trust me more than the savvy business people at twenty three and me. Yeah. Yeah. Here's the thing. Here's why it's safe giving me your data. I wouldn't know what to do with at it right, Like,

I am simply too stupid to exploit you. And that is why you can trust me. That's where I push back, because you are not stupid. And now you sound like AI who's like working it out. It's like I will present myself as bumbling in order to gain their trust. No chat, nice fucking try. I'm taking my I'm taking my DNA where it can be trusted Amazon. So let's tell people what we're going to talk about today, and then we'll talk a little bit about Andrews, you know,

newfound career path. We are going to talk about the line that has formed outside the Manhattan Courthouse the night before Trump went in, because apparently ticks to get in were the hottest item since Beyonce announced that tour. Also talk about Jill Biden doing the most both sides shit I've ever fucking heard of and has completely invited the ire of every sports fan and person of color on

the planet. Maybe we'll talk about sixty minutes continuing to show us that legacy media is just unable to fucking do anything in this really terrible time of ours, And if we have a moment, we'll talk about James Patterson and his gripes with the NYT bestseller list and plentymore. But first, Andrew T Yo, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? This

is far too illuminating about who I am. But yesterday I spent I will just admit far too long trying to figure out if there was still some way to distinguish Twitter Blue from Twitter Verified. Yeah, there's a plug in, isn't there? There's a plug in, But there is also a I tweeted this. There is. You can search dash filter, Colon verified, space filter, colon blue, underscore verified, and if you search that, it just as a list of everyone

who paid for Twitter Blue. There's something where we'll put an emoji next to it if they knew you were paying for it, to make it visually as easy as possible to see. But that's like a plug into a browser, and who's using Twitter on a browser? That would be crazy? So no, who who would do something like that? That's some that's some foul thirty eight year old ship to do. Well. Look, I never use Twitter on my phone. I only use it really, I mean, you guys have a much healthier

relationship with reality in that case. But I don't know. I think I think so. The thing with that though, is I, as some people might know if they follow me on Twitter, I'm a world champion amateur blocker. I'm like Olympic level but not pro level in terms of blocking people on Twitter. As currently I've blocked by hand forty nine. That so impressive. Forty nine What the fuck? I don't think I've seen that many joints. It's basically a little just like nervous. It's like my fidget spinner

or little habit. So what happens, Like, how do you get to blocking? Like you post something and trolls come out and you go blah blah blah blah blah blah black or you just look, you're random people like I don't even funk with this person. Block. That was the initial one. Now my my list of criteria for block First of all, if anyone like talks insane obviously, any kind of bigot just gone. Anyone who comes in my friends mentions gone, oh wow. Possibly a little more controversially,

anyone who ever advertises on Twitter. And this was pretty one gone, and that that get me into trouble a couple of times when I started to have friends who like had TV shows and stuff. Sure, sure, so I had to modulate it to blocking the entity that paid for the right, right right, rather like your home show. Yeah, you know, just trying to get some amy consideration exactly because it's hard. But and then obviously the newest criterion

is anyone that paid for Twitter blue against the block. Yeah, step in my face with that swatted out, hit the fuck out. So yeah, just over the years, I mean, this is over the entire time, I've basically had these rules at least, you know, whatever version, would you come on the scene. I came on in like two thousand and nine, Yeah, I mean yeah, I actually had to be before that kind you've been on the block. It's got to be probably two thousand seven or eight. Oh

when when did Twitter start? Because when I lived in New York a Comedy Central, I removed in LA in two thousand and nine. So prior to that, whatever though I did, I used to do the ship where you would text your tweets. Yeah, I remember that, what you literally text some number. I remember. That's why the first I was like, why the funk would I do that?

And it wasn't until the Great food Truck Boom of two thousand and nine when I was like, all right, fuck it, I need to eat, so let me figure out where the Kolgi truck is at, which is really the original my first use of Twitter, and it's all gone downhill ever since they made the whole movie Chef around that. I know, right, what's something that you think is overrated? Overrated? Um, I'm gonna go with Golden Retrievers. I was just I was just in idle Wild. Huh.

Idle Wild is a place that, um, I guess because it's like an unincorporated like city or whatever. Anyway, their mayor is a Golden retreat. It's one of these really up up of the mountains. Yeah, mountain town. I heard

about this a long time again. Yeah, Mayor Max, who is extremely cute, don't get me wrong, had nothing to do with his cuteness he's yeah, yeah, I mean he's a corrupt politician, and of course, yeah exactly cast yeah, yeah, yeah, even more than any It's not so much that they're they're corrupt, it's that the price is so low for like for some milk bones, you can fuck you exactly. Police presence on your street it's a nightmare. Um no, it's just that. Like so, but Ittlewild is like one

of those like mountain towns. There's like, you know, cabins and fucking you know whatever, like like wine stores and maybe not I don't know, I don't ski, but probably not skiing, actually, I don't think. It's just one of those like you can go fucking hang out. The local economy seems to mostly be based on people doing mushrooms, because like every other shot has like mushrooms on the t shirts that they sell, like the doorway it's like, yeah, like ask me about my friend is still like a

lot of mushrooms. So it was really fun. But but one of the things they have is that I like, I guess two pm presumably every day, maybe just every weekend day. I don't really know. Um, I don't know. Probably during the week he's hard at work, you know, growing out legislation for the good people of idle Wild, you can go meet you can wait in line and meet mayor Max. However, idle Wild is one of those towns because it's again like kind of a hippie dish

mountain town. There are dogs fucking everywhere and who you know, just like people, people, just everyone has their like cute ass dogs. It's wonderful, right, And like the idea like people waiting in line to see Golden Retrievers when there are literally like dozens of cute dogs everywhere you look, is some shit that is like fucking ridiculous. Wait, so are the dogs just roaming free, like you know, like you're in like Kingston or something like what are we

talking about? People have dogs out? Yeah. Yeah, it's just it's it's a cute literally, so I took it literally like wait, there's just dogs fucking everywhere. No no, no, no no, no sorry, But but what what I mean is there's just like rightley to see flavor of cute dog of any size is everywhere. And so the idea that like a Golden Retriever, let's be let's be honest, they kind of like you know, the six white Doe. Yeah, it's like the boringest, whackest dog, no offense to Mayormax. Who wow.

You know, I like, yeah, the deference you've paid to the office of mayor. But yes, yeah, exactly. You know what I'm just saying. My chihuahua is just gonna beat the beat the brakes off Mayormat from November. And this is this is my opportunity to god, can we run your Oh my god, this is another Can we run an insurgent campaign to get your dog to be the mayor Vidal? You know what? I think the key is to get my dog to be the da of ittlewhile the takedown Marimax from Wow Wow Wow Wow Wow, power

building power I have. I look all the time at my old tool set of lobbyist, muckraking and fuckery tools and how they're going dull. So I'm like, please give me something. I can bring this motherfucker Max down with one print ad, one robo call and if we have budget, a thirty second video spot so we could. Yeah, and this day of of you know, digital marketing, I just think there's so many, so many viral options. I think

a ground swell. Yeah, we exploit AI where they're like Wow, Mayor Max is dressed as a fucking Nazi okay in his off time, and he's anti mushroom. Okay. Yeah, a lot of German shepherds and Mayor Max's history. What's up with that? What's what's up? I'm just saying it's interesting. It's an interesting choice. I wouldn't have made that choice. Yeah, personally if these dogs could talk, so yeah, fuck not fuck all the Retrievers, but over rate I think we

can agree overrate. Yeah, the Golden Retriever was like a dog of the eighties and nineties. Yeah, you know what I mean, everyone funds like the gold standard. I remember, like in class before I had a dog and people are like, and I have a Golden Retriever, and heads like I have a Golden Retriever. I have a Golden Retriever. And I was like, what the fuck is this? Yeah, hugenic shit man. We had a town that has all these like Golden Retrievers. Something's up. What's the Golden Retriever

to resident ratio? That's what we need to know. You know, Golden Retriever specifically very small because they're the ruling class. It's like the one percent. Mayor Max is the one percent. Wow, I saw the cutest thing. I saw a very fat I'm some kind of mud but it looked like chihuaha size, but like curly poodle hairp but with like no fur on its tail at all, like a little rat tail sticking out. It was. It looked like it looked like a Wallace and Groment sheep. It was like the greatest

thing I've ever seen. And he was just rooting around in the snow bank while Mayor Max was getting and photo ops and I was like, this is something's up. Then have you seen Do you know who Mayor Max's father is? That Labrador retriever? Yeah, he likes it, he likes he likes the hide where he comes from, Mayor Max. You know what I mean? His father's brown. Anyway, more on that later, Andrew, what is something you think is underrated?

I mean, look, I guess given the specific day we got to give him there one day, got to give it up for resistance libs. You know what. I'm eating my pussy hat as we speak. They're they're the winners today. Yeah, you know, this is I think just you know, for for what it's worth, everyone's like, you know, elementary school art teacher rolling up her smock today and just drinking her coffee and knowing that her justice was served, and

that's what that's what matters. I know a few parents that are very proud right now, probably some Yeah I've seen It's why. It's I can't handle those takes where like, again, these are this like they're in a different reality where than mere thought just him being indict is like, Okay, it's done. Thank god for that. Biden twenty four. Here we go. It's just gonna be They've rolled over um.

But my god, it's I guess that is in a way like I'm jealous because I'm like, I wish reading that put me eddies, Like, yeah, I agree with you on that because I had a couple friends in town and their parents are like very much on that, like

old liberals, time Democrat vibe. Yeah, And they were texting in their family group chat just being like did you hear the news, and like their mom giving like minute a minute update about the Trump indictment and they were like, you know, like we get news notifications right, like we we also have you are not our sole resource for this this news, but they are so excited. Yeah, this is like white boomer liberals. OJ verdict. Yes, yeah, this is like like not to like bopeting. But it isn't

like we won, we won. What the fuck did we win? Right? Right? Right? Exactly exactly. Yeah, It's just so hard for me to see that and get excited. I remember I was in a fucking meeting when it happened, and when I got out, like I saw my phone and I did a double take because I was like, wait, what the fuck happened? And then the whole car ride back, I didn't even listen to the news. I'm like, all right, I'll check in on this later. I'm like, it didn't It just

didn't do anything for me. But again, I think it just takes time because, like we said in yesterday's episode, this guy's batting a thousand when he goes up to plate to fucking avoid accountability. So I'm like, yeah, you can't. You know, my cynicism is well earned. Um, so it is what it is. But hey, look, if you if you enjoy, go on and celebrate, you know, go shut down an intersection, you know what I mean. So, Douce Donuts, today's your day. You're on top. You know, Women's March everything,

you win, you definitely win. Today. We all win, No, Andrew, we all win. Yeah, but they win him a little more. I'm gonna take that victory too. I'm like, yeah, yeah, I was here with you all the whole time. All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back to talk a little bit about the lead up to Trump's arrangement after this and we're back. So, yes, as you were saying, Trump turning himself in, everybody wants to

be there. They want to see it happen live. But apparently reporters have gone full fan when it comes to camping outside the courthouse overnight in a very long line because they just want to get inside for the arrayment the next day. And here's the thing, well, here's the thing. At the time of this, when they were getting in line, no one even knew or it was never even announced

quote how many reporters would be allowed inside. So this was just off a fucking like prayer, right, And apparently it all started on two PM on Monday, when, like I guess, word spread on Twitter and then the line got longer and there was just like this fomo, like journalism fomo kicked in, like all right, man, we got to get people down there now, Like I don't care fucking pay line waiters to do whatever the fuck you

gotta do. So the line was apparently filled with representatives from all the major outlets like The New York Times and the AP, and it had to be organized by one of the people in line because they were afraid that like there was no way to create order from it all unless you could be like, here's our document that we're all saying when you were okay, you are in first position, yes you are there plus two people

whatever by this blog called Law three sixty. But it wasn't all reporters, like some outlets actually hired journalism students and like professional line sitters who were like, oh yeah, let me read the market real quick. Yeah, my rates doubled now to fucking spend to the night in line to get there, so you know, uh yeah, I just liked THO two that the group that was second in line website called Hellgate and why they were basically out here being like, hey, what are y'all other media companies.

We'll sell you our spot if you got k we'll give it up right now. Nobody took the offer. Um, but you know, it is what it is. It's just just it's just wild to see like how quickly because I believe the judge, so there was gonna be no cameras in there, but still they gotta get in there because that's what sells the fucking the advertisement. It's the third day, Like Andrew was saying, it's I love this.

I also just love like even just like two hundred of the world's dumbinssed assholes could do a better job than ticket faster, just like coalescing. What time were you in line? Because there's no bots, you know what I mean? Yeah, that line didn't get botted. I mean I guess that's what those linesitters were were kind of the bots, right right right right right? Yeah, oh shit, Yeah, they're your actual like smurfs in drug parlance, to go get do

your bidding. Yeah. So I'm not sure who got in or what the situations, but maybe we'll follow up on that. But it's just an interesting, like moment in time to be like, yeah, wait out in the fucking cold for these tickets that don't exist. What's the What was the weather in New York last night? I think it was nice. It was like Becca you were there probably fifty Yeah, yeah, okay, I was the germ store with a beautiful, a medium

down sleeping bag. Oh yeah, you definitely didn't need much because it's like hot today, so yeah, I imagine overnight it cold. I mean New Yorkers, you know, you just you got your Tims, you got your triple Fat boots, Huffy Puffer, bubble goose. Yeah, you got another New York thing. I was like, come on, now, you got a Yankee fitted a pizza, a pizza Yankee fitted, Ninja Turtles, Batman. All right, let's talk quickly about Jill Biden. I guess do we want to? Yeah, let's so. We talked about

this on the Trending episode on Monday. The NCAA Women's Championship game occurred over the weekend where LSU overcame Iowa and Angel Reese has been a fucking standout athlete throughout the tournament, breaking all kinds of records and shit like that, and again also unfortunately was shoved into the limelight because of her trash top game because it's scalding hot and yeah, when you watch sports, you like that. That was until Caitlyn Clark of Iowa ended up on the receiving end

of such taunts. Now see, Caitlyn Clark is also a very talented player, and she was also getting a ton of praise for her competitiveness and all this, and she would regularly throughout the tournament hit people with the Sina hand in front of face, I oh, you can't see me type shit like I'm fucking next level with it. There are even times if she would like wave players off on defense like I don't need to fuck indeed, this motherfucker, this fucking scrub up, and people were like yeah.

One time she told another player to shut up, and again everyone's like yeah. However, when it came to this championship game and Angel Reese, a black woman, came for that ass, the amount of tears and pearl clutching that came from like Twitter avatars that looked like they were taking inside of a pickup truck. Though, those people started getting very very mad, and we were hearing things like

it's unsportsmanlike and not glassy. It's a distraction from her team and all the good she's done as an athlete. It's a district it actually takes away we even we hear this all the time when people of color do things that white people do, you know. Like one version of it too is even how when people were fucking taking to the streets in the summer of twenty twenty rightfully, then people were like, oh god, the anger and stuff

it's taking away from the point it's taking away. Is there another way they could do it that isn't just so uh, you know, And then cut to January six, Yeah, people are like, oh god, this was a setup anyway. So again white people got very mad, Like Keith Olberman had something to say. He was like, fuck, what do you say? Called her a fucking idiot or something something really aggressive. I was gonna say, it's not just people in front of pickup trucks getting mad. This is yeah,

this is It's also the MSNBC set too. Let's not let's let's let's keep it g real here. And you saw it up and down from many people with this like really, it's like a litmus test and be like, Okay, if you want to figure out people you have nothing in common with, let's just see what they're what they're What was their response to this rorshack test? Like what did they see? Because I think Mike, myself and most other people we saw like a competitive person who was

just being competitive. And again, also, trash talk is one of the best fucking parts of sports, Like, hands down, it's the shit that for all the celebrating of like Michael Jordan and stuff like that, that was one of his most potent tools as an athlete. But in this instance it was like, so somehow overtook the whole conversation when it should have been about how, you know, well, like how well the LSU team did to win the

national championship for basketball. Well, this is Iowa's fucking lucky year. Because Joe Biden has to hit the campaign trail soon and if he is indeed running again, Iowa can be a big, big guest in terms of a like world college scheme of things as like a you know, I mean now it's gone red but still seen as a swing state, also important to the primaries and things like that.

So keep that in mind. When Jill Biden went to Colorado the following day, she mentioned that she was looking forward to having the champions in the house as well as the losers. Let me just play this, I attended the NCAA Women's basketball Championship. Congratulations to both team. So I know we'll have the champions come to UM to the so you know we'll have LSU. But you know what I'm gonna tell Joe, I think Iowa should come too because they played such a good game. So right,

so winners and losers. That starts worship. No, what is the game, doctor, Jill. Look, I get it when it's kids. These are fucking elite athletes, Okay, so they know what comes along with competing at the highest levels. If you don't go all the way and you have to take an L, then you take an L and you knuckle down and you try again. That's just the spirit of

competition and athletics and whatever. It's not like, fuck, man, are you sure we can't go to because Angel Reese made me feel real bad, like and that's where we're fucking at. I'm like, this is the like the most ultimate both sides move except like currying favor with one side could potentially have election ramifications. Except no, like sure that that is the I mean, look again, shout out

to resistance lips, you're the winners today. However, like their instinct to always reach out to white people, like like their obsession with the idea that like a bunch of like racist but not that racist White people are the most important people in the United States electorally while they alienate black people, especially this move. Yeah, like this, you're actually losing people. You're making it clear that you care about Again, convincible racists is what you think are the

most important people on earth. And that's why you fucking govern the way you do. And that's why like when people say Democrats take you know, people of color, but mostly black folks for granted, Yeah, they're right, Well, because this is the thing the logic would be. And I'm saying election ramifications in the sense that they're looking at a map and go, well, Louisiana is an l like you know what I mean, in the most cynical way where they're like, what are we gonna in their minds, like,

what are we gonna alienate Louisiana. You're never gonna do anything there, Iowa though with again to your point, not realizing that every single person who saw that, no matter where they fucking live, goes, what the fuck They've never even done this before, Like when have they ever brought the this like never, It would be unprecedented that we now are like the losers too, And I'm not saying like because losers don't deserve shit, but again, this like

bending over backwards to accommodate people because they got frightened by this elite athlete who is just as competitive as this white woman. That what the fuck? Like, that's how it reads her fans, specifically with Kaitlin Clark's fans. I'm gonna strongly and confidently pull out of my ass are way over a decks for white people. So like, that's who Joe Biden's really like talking to. I mean, look, here's the other other way to look at it is.

You know, even with all that this franchiseman and all the fucking bullshit that Republicans have done, if every black person who could vote voted, there would never be a Republican in national office, not national office, but like the presidency like ever again as with the parties as currently constituted. So I'm like, guess what, like that's your actually, Like, if there was enthusiasm from black folks about voting it higher proportions than you know, the dumb white people that

they seem to care about Joe Biden's president every year forever. Yeah, yeah, well, I mean the problem is right, like to your point that what that can be promised only can only go so far until until it means reckoning with white supremacy or capitalism. Then we gotta hit the breaks. And I'm like, I can offer you this can take cloth and I will kneel in the rotunda, but don't ask me to take away qualified immunity or come on now, hey, I

will bring Alicia Keys on stage for this event. But let's not you know, let's not talk about it advocating for like worker right. The wild thing is Jill Biden spokesperson came out and was like like tried to clean it up and was just like it was like more so she said that to basically underscore how far like women's athletics have come, you know, entitle nine and all that, and so that that's what she meant. And everyone's like sure, jan sure, like that's that's what How does that make sense?

How Well it doesn't, because it's a terrible way to try and like rationalize what was said because it was offensive and a lot of people in the replies were like, yeah, you should she should actually be saying this out her account and apologizing from her account because to a lot of people. It felt like, Oh, I'm reading the room here and saying, Okay, this group needs some soothing and you know what, I'm going to use my power as

first Lady to do some soothing here. When most people are like, this is fucked, you should maybe just defend Angel Reese and say I think it's overblown. You know, she's a competitor. I love to see that you're not wishing that good. Well. It's also just like the nature of the game. It's like for a generation that really yelled at us millennials being like, yall are too soft and everyone gets a participation trophy. You really gave out

the participation trophy. Yeah, you really said we're all winners today. If I was tweeting, I was like when I first thought, I was like, this is the future liberals want, you know, like this is what they want. If you're the fucking IOWA team, you think you're like little losers, is gonna be fun. It's everyone's gonna hate that they're gonna stand there with the LSU team. Everyone's gonna be like look at each other, like mean girls, like m like no

one wants to be there. Everyone's uncomfortable including the LSU team, because you know, Angel Reese, she's like a fucking joke, is what she She quote tweeted that ship so quick and people were like, yeah, that part and even her other like other teammates were like, uh, can we party like maybe Michelle Obama's house or something like, you know, I don't really need to go to the White House

and look. And with that one, fucking you're both sides ing you did the thing what you didn't intend to do, but you don't have the foresight to see because you're just trying to people please, which is you alienated both motherfucking sides. Yeah, except for the few people who are like, oh, this is what I love about Jill Biden, you know what I mean. She she understands, she gets it, she gets it. And Shack is over here telling him, like Dave Portnoy that his mom is like an idiot and

stuff like that. So it's all, it's all, it's all whacky right now. I was thinking, like, how could they even do it in a way that would make it not take away from the LSU thing. Were like, yeah, the IOWA team can be outside in the sun while the LSU team gets the tour and has like a lunch and then we could do a little guarden party if y'all still feeling it, where the Iowa team will be waiting outside. But they're the regular tour that everyone

else gets. You know, like if you go to DC and you just you go buy the White House, We'll just like invite them too, Dacy, and then you know, LSU can like actually be in the White House. I mean Coowterpoint, do they? They'll have that court that Obama put up in the backyard. Let's just fucking good game. Yeah yeah, right, Yo, let's settle this ship. You know

what I mean, fuck down there? What is the Capital One Center is like where the main arenas or the Wizards player Like, yo, fuck it booking Capital One right now? Let's fucking go the rematch and it just one one on one Caitlin and Angel, you know what I mean. NBA JAM rules, It should be NBA jam R Yeah yah, no fouls, no ref no fouls, no fouls. Yeah on fire is allowed. Oh yeah, and yeah. With Angel Reese coming from Baltimore, I think she'll have a little bit

of heart in that game. But no, she doesn't need to play for that because you already won. Good for you, but it sucks. I bet like that Obama court probably came down as quick as fucking Jimmy Carter Solar panels when Reagan came into That's true, you know what I mean, what he's like dents like, what the fuck is this? Get it out of my face? How tall is Barren? Now? Baron's like nice, Yes, he's so tall, gangly, Yeah, he's real gangle. Yeah, we'll see, We'll see where that goes.

I mean, like the one picture that came out of him, he was dressed exactly like his dad, and like, you know, it's tough like when like I knew kids who like idolized their fathers, who are like had a little bit of like notoriety or something. And you either like are like fuck this guy forever or you become like I want to be like him no matter what. And it can be a bit of a tragic path. But do you, Baron.

We're here waiting with bated breath. I know people say it's not cool to make fun of a little kid, but we're not making fun of I'm just saying he's six. No, I'm making fun of him. I say, I just will in general, not not just yeah, I'm like you gonna say, yeah, I mean it depends in private. In private, yeah, Like I'll be like, man, I'm not gonna say this out loud, but that Nazi that could dunk on me that part shit. All right, let's hit up the folks over at CBS

really quick. Sixty minutes. See a little bit of sound effects there. They are taking shit also for again during the lord's work of bringing Marjorie Taylor Green on and just absolutely shitting the bed not being able to hold her to account. And first of all, they kind of presented her as someone with quote having a sharp tongue and brazen gutsiness. My my, mize that what we're calling you these days. A sharp tongue when you say the Parkland shooting was a false flag, or brazen gutsiness when

you talk about Jewish space lasers. Okay, whatever you want, whatever you want, but yeah, the interview seemingly sought to normalize her with this sort of like puff piece like presentation that like showed her like with her kids and you know what, yeah, and like are her lifting weights again? You know this is I get that she is a person of interest because she's in Congress. I don't think you'd be like, yo, fucking dead that, don't even put

her on. But if you're gonna have her on, you better have somebody that's willing to not just be like,

oh what else? Yeah okay, yeah yeah, because that really does have the effective people not fully understanding how extreme this person and completely but anyway, all that to say is Leslie Stall barely could rebut anything that Marjorie Taylor Green said, and it was really fucking painful, like it was kind of like teeth sucking at best, like oh okay, like I like really took to that, you know, And then she called Margie Taylor Green glib Oh okay, that's cool.

And the most pushback she got was after when she called the Democrats the Party of pedophiles. Stall was like, okay,

can you go on? She's like, yeah, well this is what they do, like like sexualife children's a pedophile does And all Leslie Stall did was go, wow, okay, yeah, you know, it's only one more syllable Dennis Haster, like this motherfucking Republican was a straight up child bolester, as they speaker the house or some shit like yeah, are you fucking kidding, like you can't be preped with that fucking leslie stall, Like exactly I was gonna say, you

couldn't be prepped with when you asked that question, all the people the Republican Party, because I mean, there's more than just him. Matt Gays is accused of potentially of trafficking miners as well anything on that. That's the party that you're in, that's the man you appear on stage with at these like you know, Maga riot Fest speaking

events that y'all do together. But again, it's just like really really fucking hard to watch because you're like, man, this is the easiest shit to be Like, even if you somehow weren't prepared that as a human, you don't want to be like nah, come on, what the fuck you're talking about? Like go on, But even then it's like wow, wow, Wow, Okay, whoa, that's a spicy meatball, just like, say, so that happened. If you're gonna do if you're going that weak, just like what do you

why are you there? If that's all you can bring to the table, Yeah exactly. Yeah. Then she like pressed her about like she's like, you know, you do a lot of name calling, and then Green got really defensive and she was like, I've been unjustly described as anti Semitic and a racist. And then she's like, I'm not calling anyone names. I'm calling out the truth. Basically hello, basically hello, what okay? Whatever. You don't have a follow you could just read her tweets and just say, are

you you're saying this is not racist? You're saying this is not racist. You're saying this semitic. You're literally yeah, you're out here like quote tweeting shit that You're like the Parkland shooting was a false flag. You're not saying that now, No, no, just do some pressing, because that's the responsibility of somebody when I mean any journalist. When you have somebody who's out here like that, it's really like, honestly, like how lazy are the fucking like journalists and producers

at sixty minutes? Just like are they scared? Like this is yeah, this is shit you could put together in five minutes on the car ride there. Oh yeah, tell me right now, I could prep two minutes. Yeah, two

fucking minutes. I got it so wild. It has to be a choice, And it's like the footing yeah, it's I mean, yeah, just one of those things too, where like you know, sixty minutes has been around for fucking ages, right, yeah, and it feels like one of those things, or like because it's been around for ages New York Times like that, it's not able to actually reckon with the era that we're in and the people that are inside or even

like oh yeah that's fine. Like I remember even what's his face from Axios Jonathan Swan, remember like he was pressing Trump fucking hard. Yeah, he was like even for you know, not maybe going all in like maybe we would have liked seen, but at the very least being like no, no, no, We'll look at this paper like I got it right, I have the receipts here, Yeah, please any comment? Yeah. So I think that's just like

very aggravating. I think for me, and like I think most people who are looking at it, is like we need the kind of journalism that is going to make sure that these people are explaining what they have to say, so people who are unaware have an actual accurate idea of what this person is saying where they stand, rather than being like, yeah, so what she says? Some of those foul shit but she has kids and she likes

to lift weights. But he's a mom better than a five second Google search, Yeah, yeah, Like it's so bizarre that this is worse than that. Yeah, I mean I'm googling right now, like in the most infantile way, bad things. Marjorie Taylor Green has said. And you know there's nine thousand listicals right there, producers, Yeah, right fucking there. Um, And like it's so really if you're worse than a listical light at this shop, I know, shit for real, right, Like,

please somebody help help them, help them? All right, Uh, let's let's let's take a quick break. Uh, and we'll we'll be right back to talk some more immedia stuff right after this, and we're back. James Patterson, you know, the author, and I guess brand like at this point, like I don't even know him as a person. I'm just like that's a word that's put on books I would never fucking buy, or just you know you see them like like at like an airport bookstore and you're like,

what the fuck? Like this guy still writes shit about like a robot that fucks a cop or something. Anyway, he recently penned a very angry open letter complaining that his new book Walk the Blue Line, No Right, No Left, which is not topaganda, I tell you, wasn't included on the New York Times bestseller list. How could that fucking be?

He suggested that the Times was quote cooking the books and pointing out that their list didn't line up with BookScan, which quote compiles book sales data and lists his book a lot higher than the New York Times did. The Times we're basically saying, like this is based off of our own detailed analysis of book sales from this is that and the other, you know, brick and mortar independent. And they also pointed out they're like, dude, this guy's

been on our list literally over four thousand times. Yeah, what is he fucking complaining about? Like it was like they're sort of like what their rebut is like, it's not that we don't have a fucking agenda against him. This one just didn't hit the fucking marks. Maybe it's like you sold them bajillion different books, God forbid, one of them wasn't that good. And also this is a direct quote from The New York Times. Um, we love coppaganda and fucking cop dick more than anything on earth.

And yeah, so the proposition that we would somehow censor this book is absurd on its face. Yeah right, I just yea, yeah, excuse that person was here or not. We agree with the values of this book. We just thought it was poorly written. I mean, Joseph Khan, who's the executive editor, he had to change his title from executive editor to Kappa Gandalf because that's how much he lacks kappaganda on here. That's what we do at the

New York Times. That's just how we get down. But anyway, the Patterson does raise a point about the best seller list because it is weird, like even how they say, it's like it's our own proprietary blend of herbs and spices.

How we figure out who gets on the list? Reportedly quote no one outside the New York Times knows exactly how it's best sellers are calculated, and they keep their own sources a secret, supposedly to like circumvent any pressure that could happen because they people learn how to game the system. But we know that there is a way to game the system, and the Times list often it doesn't line up with BookScan like they're like their rankings either.

So some people in publishing have suggested that a certain amount of quote unquote curation goes into the lists. Obviously, Kapa Gandalf denies any wrongdoing here, and some authors like do higher specific companies that actually are like, yo, our whole thing is we run best sellers campaigns. That's what we do, and we can get to on this fucking list.

One of the biggest companies that does this was a rebranded version of a company that basically was like in hot water for pushing books from like the religious right onto the list. And they're, oh, yeah, we're not doing that anymore, like even though they paid us their clients, but yeah, we're we're off that. And basically he was saying the reason his book, Patterson's book Copaganda, was off the list was basically politically motivated because it's about cops.

And he similarly complained that Mike Pompeo's book should have been higher on the list too. The book I'm sure is fucking unreadable. I mean, in fact, I did bother to like look at James Patterson's website to see how he was promoting this also from the authors I love too, because he's like basically used his ghostwriters. Like I think most people are like this guy didn't even write the

books anymore. He's just like it's always somewhere. He's like really old now, right, Yeah, he's seventy four, he's fully in boom. Yeah, what's seventy four year olds writing full ass books? A lot of people are, I mean, but they probably put a little more like thought into it, not like this guy who's just shitting out like love letters to the police state. But yeah, there's like this excerpt from it. I'm just gonna read this, Like, so this other book, like the Vibe is this one's called

Tim O'Brien. Tim O'Brien was working in the mortgage industry when, at thirty, he decided to become a police officer. I approached the car and say, do you know why I pulled you over? The guy behind the wheel doesn't know what to say. It's six am and he's dressed for work. I was speeding, He asks, No, are my stickers expired? No? Are my tail lights up? No license and registration please.

One of the essentials of police work is learning to use your discretion when you can't and can't arrest someone when you can write a ticket or write a warning. I run the guy's name through the computer and like goes on about how this guy's like he lets someone off with a warning, and he's like, that's how I look at policing. It's not about arresting every single guy. And that's like the nuance, even though it might get you in trouble with blah blah blah. And it's like

the most dull thing I've ever read. But it sounds like that poor man didn't deserve to be pulled over, and that you were probably pulling him over because you were bored at six am. Yeah, did you describe the man you pulled over? I don't know, but anyway, it's not it's not important, not relevant, not relevant, not relevant, not relevant anyway, And like it goes on to then talk about how this guy has kids or whatever. It's like, I can't believe even someone thinks I'm from the excerpt

I read that this is spell binding. No, yeah, it reads like text messages to somebody telling you about their day. And then like, here's something too, Like Jim Pasco, who we heard a lot of from the he's for the executive director of the National Fraternal Order of Police. He's also copigand alf too is his title. He said, Walk the Blue Line is the book that law enforcement community has been waiting for. These stories showcase the courage, the hurt, the anger, and the joy that can be found in

every officer's DNA. They're sure so like also telling on yourself that this whole open letter should have been an email to his publicist. Hey, this just means his publishing company didn't choose to spend the same amount of money on him as they did last time. Yeah, and like that's sad for you, my dude, that's not sad for the whole world, because yeah, New York Times can be bought and sold, so when they weren't bought and sold, that's all you sort of Yeah, you do better, don't ask.

Don't ask, Joe Biden and by you to the cookout. Now, go back in the lab and start lifting those risks weights and write something better, Jimmy, And to this point, right, people game the fucking system like that Mike Pompeo book. It debuted at number three on the best seller list because his fucking pack spent forty two grand on a bulk order of books. Same thing happened with doju Donald

Trump Junior's book give us so many books. There's so many people who know authors that have bulks saying so they could be on the New York Times like and they in theory flag them, Like I heard that. There's like if you just look at it, there's like a little yeah, so it shows like, oh, no suspicions activity And it's like, then why are you even put on the list if you are recognizing the suspicion's activity right exactly,

you know what I mean? Like if you know they hit all them home runs off steroids, then maybe we those don't count. Yeah, maybe we didn't put on the list, but whatever do you because that's how this industry works, hand in hand with it all. I mean, yeah, the Donald Trump Junior book, The Fucking RNC spent over ninety four thousand by trying to prop that ship up to get it on the fucking list. And like you said, there is the dagger there, but they all get on

the list. And other books that have basically used the same practice, releases from Judge Janine Pierrot or Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro like which again it gives people the idea that you're like, oh, people are fucking like want to hear what they say. But that's just a fucking, you know, presentational trick to get people to be like, oh, okay,

maybe it's worth buying. Because the thing is, when you get on that list, reportedly, you can increase sales by like fifty seven percent because people just sort of like people critically look at it and they're like, oh, yeah, great, great, great great great, Oh god, it buy this, you know what? You know what New York Times Bestseller list is? That shit is just Twitter blue for books. Oh my god,

there it is there it is. Thank you, thank you James Patterson for pointing that out, but thank you Andrew t for bringing that shit home exactly. It's exactly what it is. And we don't have we barely have any scripts we can run to find out what's what unless it has that dagger, you know. But Andrew, thank you

so much man for joining us today on the Daily Zeitgeist. Man, it's always a pleasure really looking out for twenty three and t all that I will give you my TNA and I don't mean that A is TNA, but I mean TI nucleic acid. And yes, again where can people find you, follow you and all that, and what's the tweet or some internet I mean, don't comment me on Twitter if you got Twitter blue, because you're already blocked.

And yeah, I guess mostly what I got going on these days is we're trying to we're doing shiit Registract is coming up, so we're trying to do shit on the premium side of yos this racist at Suboptimal Pods. Check it out. We think it's fun. There's a new episode of Dale Dudes, which is the podcast where Matt Appadak and I do a watch along slash other talk about a five to six minute episode of Chippa Dale Park Life, which does not have words. I want to stress is what I mean. I would guess it's for

kids that don't speak right. It's more for my dog than for me. My dog, of course, will be taking that Mayormax if I don't want also hashtag mayor Max is canceled watching that trending all I'm using all AI fucking attack as like a smear campaign. I can't. This is I can't. I'm even though I've become a father, somehow become more petty. I don't know what I thought

you're supposed to mature out of that. No, I think you have time to be petty now, Like you know what it is, Yeah, right, go on in the wee hours when you're like trying to put this kid to bed. That's that's where the pettiness build. Yeah, what I do is my exhaustion. I turned that into a frustration that I direct at someone like like a dog mayor, so I could and I use that to power me through the night and being like just be like yeah, wait,

just wait, Mayor Max, Yeah, let me. I would guess like pettiness is probably a better petty eat this as long as you're like, you know, just doing shit like smearing a dog mayor or something like, it's better than letting get to build it to road rage or whatever the fuck. You know. Wait, so, how many Mayor Maxes are there? Mayor Max is a mayor second. Yeah, Mayor

Max is as a depotism, you know. Look, I'm not saying it's essentially like a monarchy up there, but it's not a good look when the two mayors are father and son in the last two Wow. Wow, fucking NEPO baby in office by the fucking ads Andrew, they write them and fucking selves right now, We're gonna take this motherfucker down. I'm calling my past like political operative homies. I'm like, hey, one last job, man, the last job.

We're taking mayor Max the fuck down and we're putting in a new puppet government that's run remotely from Los Angeles. I love it us. Any tweets or anything that you like? Yeah, Actually, in all my blocking spree, there's a tweet from Zach Buderick and it's a photo from the like got Milk campaign Alex trebecum with with you know, milk mustache and the line is your bones maybe in jeopardy and the tweet captured is imagine seeing this added not knowing who

Alex trebec was is fucking terrifying, recontextualized. Oh my god, your bones may be in jeopardy? What fuck are you talking about? Excuse that is a menacing threat though, I will yeah, wow, wow, wow wow. Becca Ramos, thank you for being here as well. What is a tweet that you like? Also? Where can people find you and follow you? In all that? You can find me and follow me at Bex Ramos b eccs RMS on all platforms, and I'm at Melmundos every other Saturday. So this Saturday in Bushwick,

at your books from queer Latin X local businesses. I tweet or really it's a TikTok. I'm gonna put it in the chat Miles if you want to share it. But it is from Homo Honey zero, and it is this person who is showing their mom all of these celebrities that she simply cannot name correctly. She is just so wrong almost every single one. Okay, this hold on, So this first one, the first one is Drake Drake Julie Roberts. That was Kim Kardashian Kardashian family member Hathaway

the movie Emma. That's that's three. That's all. Ellen's very good. I love, I love. That's my favorite. She's looking at a fucking doll. Okay, look we'll put that in the footnote so y'all can see the video too. I just love I love when parents are like so like confidently wrong. That is my favorite kind of TikTok content. It's like, yeah, anyway. You can find me at Miles of Gray on Twitter and Instagram. You can find us at Daily zeit Geist

on Twitter. At the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We got a Facebook fan page and a website, Daisy dot com where we posted by episodes. Thank you Becca, and you know the song that we write out on today. We were joking off Mike, Becca and I because we were talking about you know, Russallia and you know her, her her reggae tone adventures and how a lot of people are like, okay, oh are you coming all the way from Spain but you know, taking at the vibes from

over here, but okay, no, you're making it work. But a lot of people were looking sideways at her. But now she's got an out with her Uh, I guess I don't even know her fiance, who is a Puerto Rican star, And yeah, people can they want to be so bad. They say, we gotta recall nice Puerto Rico. They're like, oh, man, I gotta be I gotta have a spice of you know, yeah, exactly. She's about to say she's tight, We're the baddest bitches. I get it. Yeah, well,

this is she put an album out. I didn't realize until Becca was like, no, that's her fiance, and I was like, oh, this is like some reggae tone Game of Thrones. Shit, yeah, she said colonized two point oh. She said, I'm gonna make sure that Vivo Latino interview. I did means Vivo Latino, right, I know. She starts she's saying wept by it or not. She's going men, You're like, no, no, no no hold anyway, So this, this track is called Vampiros. This good this, no, I get it. Look,

I funk with the music first and foremost. The other stuff, the cultural nuances, I'm aware of them, but I still funk with the music. This track is called Vampiros and it's Rosalia and Jandro together, really good production on it. It's very dark, and that's why I like their music, because they're like looking ahead. That's what like a lot of their music sounds like. So I always like that. So you can check that out there. Obviously, this show

is a production about her radio. So for more podcasts, you hit the iHeartRadio app Aple podcast or wherever you get your favorite shows. That's gonna do it for this episode. We'll be back later to tell you what's trending later on today, So we'll see then. Bye bye, m h m hm.

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