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The Counsel

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Join Elie Honig as he unpacks the complex legal issues shaping our country. A former prosecutor and co-chief of the organized crime unit at the Southern District of New York, CNN senior legal analyst, and author, Honig brings sharp insight and clear perspective to the intersections of law, politics, and current events. New episodes every Friday. From CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network.
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Episodes

Trump Tariffs Teetering on Extinction

This episode analyzes the Supreme Court's oral arguments concerning former President Trump's controversial tariffs. Host Elie Honig highlights how both liberal and conservative justices voiced significant skepticism regarding the administration's legal basis for these tariffs. The discussion explores potential consequences of a ruling against the tariffs, including economic impacts and the complex issue of refunds for importers, suggesting a decision is likely by the new year.

Nov 07, 202511 min

The Trump Tariffs’ Last Stand

Elie Honig delves into the Supreme Court's upcoming decision on Donald Trump's tariffs, explaining how lower courts have already struck them down. The episode meticulously examines the "major questions doctrine," a key conservative legal principle, and predicts how its application will likely lead to the tariffs' invalidation. It also explores the complex judicial dynamics and Trump's anticipated political and legal strategies post-ruling.

Oct 31, 202511 min

Trump vs. Trump's DOJ

This episode explores Donald Trump's extraordinary $230 million administrative claim against the Justice Department, focusing on alleged wrongs during past investigations. Elie Honig dissects the profound conflicts of interest, where Trump loyalists might decide the payout, and explains why the claims lack legal merit under ordinary circumstances. Ultimately, the discussion concludes that due to political realities, a settlement is likely, and the system offers no recourse to prevent this self-enriching outcome.

Oct 24, 20258 min

The John Bolton Indictment Is Different

This episode delves into the federal indictment of John Bolton, detailing the 18 charges for transmitting and improperly retaining sensitive national defense information. The host argues the prosecution appears legitimate, stemming organically from a foreign hack of Bolton's AOL account, with career DOJ prosecutors and judicial approvals. The discussion also compares Bolton's alleged conduct to other high-profile classified document cases involving Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, and Donald Trump, concluding Bolton's actions, if proven, are more serious.

Oct 17, 20259 min

Trump Might Get to Send the National Guard Anywhere He Wants

This episode delves into the legal challenges surrounding President Trump's use of Section 12406 to deploy the National Guard without state governor consent, highlighting the ambiguity of emergency conditions. It examines ongoing federal court cases in California, Oregon, and Illinois, which reveal differing judicial interpretations and standards of deference to presidential authority. The discussion culminates in predicting potential Supreme Court rulings, weighing outcomes that range from continuous legal disputes to an unreviewable expansion of executive power, drawing parallels with historical and recent decisions on presidential authority.

Oct 10, 202510 min

An Epic Courtroom Mismatch Is Looming in the Comey Case

Elie Honig reflects on the Justice Department's current state and expresses skepticism about the indictment of Jim Comey. The episode then delves into the anticipated courtroom battle, contrasting the legendary career and unparalleled skills of defense lawyer Pat Fitzgerald with the limited experience and politically driven appointment of prosecutor Lindsey Halligan, raising concerns about the integrity and outcome of this high-stakes case.

Oct 03, 202511 min

Note from Elie 9/26: The Meaning of the Comey Indictment

This episode critically examines the indictment of Jim Comey, highlighting its lack of specificity and the unusual timing after extensive prior investigations yielded no charges. Honig reveals that experienced prosecutors and even the Deputy Attorney General expressed doubts, while Trump's public demands for Comey's prosecution strongly suggest selective and politically motivated action, setting a dangerous precedent for the Justice Department's independence.

Sep 26, 20258 min

Note from Elie 9/22: How Will Pam Bondi React to Trump’s Outrageous Demands of Her?

This episode delves into Donald Trump's direct and public demands that Attorney General Pam Bondi indict his political adversaries. Elie Honig examines the impossible bind Bondi faces, drawing parallels to how Trump treated past officials like Jeff Sessions and Bill Barr for non-compliance. He also critiques the legal weakness of Trump's desired prosecutions and warns about the dangerous, open weaponization of the Justice Department for political revenge.

Sep 22, 20259 min

Note from Elie 9/19: When You Come at the King

This episode features an excerpt from Elie Honig's new book, "When You Come at the King," detailing the history of presidents facing investigation by outside prosecutors, from Nixon's Watergate to Bill Clinton and the Mueller probe. It highlights the institutional resistance and political pressures involved, concluding with an analysis of how former President Trump's stated intentions for a second term pose an unprecedented threat to the Justice Department's independence and accountability norms.

Sep 19, 202525 min

Note from Elie 9/12: Trump’s Emergency Summer Becomes Fallback Fall

This episode delves into former President Trump's pattern of declaring national emergencies and the subsequent legal challenges by federal courts. It examines specific cases, including tariff declarations, the Alien Enemies Act, and the mobilization of the National Guard, where courts rejected or scaled back Trump's executive actions. The discussion highlights the critical role of the judiciary in limiting presidential power, even as the Supreme Court looms as a final arbiter.

Sep 12, 20258 min

Note from Elie 9/05: Trump Can’t Fire the Fed at Will — But He Probably Can Fire Lisa Cook

Elie Honig discusses recent legal setbacks for Donald Trump before diving into the main topic: Trump's controversial effort to remove Lisa Cook from the Federal Reserve Board. The episode details the mortgage fraud allegations against Cook, spurred by Bill Pulte's referral, and analyzes the legal complexities of "for cause" termination under the Federal Reserve Act. It explores why courts might ultimately side with Trump, emphasizing judicial deference and the avoidance of broader constitutional questions regarding presidential power over the Fed.

Sep 05, 202512 min

Note From Elie 8/29: Will the Courts Let Trump Send the National Guard Into New York?

Elie Honig discusses President Trump's use of executive power, particularly regarding National Guard deployments in American cities. The episode analyzes the legal basis for Trump's actions in Washington D.C. and California, highlighting the unique constitutional provisions and the Insurrection Act. Honig then explores the significant legal hurdles Trump would face in attempting similar deployments or taking over local police departments in other states, emphasizing the limited scope of his current legal precedents.

Aug 29, 202512 min

Note from Elie 8/22: Obergefell Isn't Dobbs. Gay Marriage Will Stand.

This episode delves into Kim Davis's petition to the Supreme Court to overturn Obergefell v. Hodges, the decision establishing the right to same-sex marriage. Elie Honig explains the surprising procedural development of the Court requesting a response from the opposing party. He then provides a detailed breakdown of how each justice is likely to vote, concluding that Obergefell will stand due to judicial moderation, procedural issues, and strong public and legislative support for gay marriage.

Aug 22, 202512 min

Note from Elie 8/15: The Calm Before the Epstein Storm

Elie Honig first addresses a new legal challenge to same-sex marriage at the Supreme Court, assessing its low likelihood of success. He then shifts to the Jeffrey Epstein scandal, highlighting its temporary lull before a predicted resurgence. The discussion focuses on House Republicans' efforts, especially Representative James Comer's broad subpoenas to high-profile figures, critiquing their legal basis. Finally, Honig examines the Justice Department's handling of Epstein evidence, including the controversial Ghislaine Maxwell meeting, anticipating further scandal and public distrust regardless of information release.

Aug 15, 202510 min

Note From Elie 08/08: Will the U.S. Supreme Court Actually Save Ghislaine Maxwell?

This episode delves into Ghislaine Maxwell's Supreme Court appeal, which controversially argues she's protected by a 2007 non-prosecution agreement between Jeffrey Epstein and the DOJ. Elie Honig explains the contentious details of Epstein's original deal and contrasts Maxwell's case with his own mob prosecution, United States v. Prisco, highlighting the legal precedents at stake. The discussion also touches on why the Supreme Court might hear the case and draws parallels to the Bill Cosby ruling, emphasizing the critical importance of honoring prosecutorial promises.

Aug 08, 202511 min

Note from Elie 8/1: Trump Is Only Pretending to Release More Epstein Material

Ellie Honig discusses the Trump administration's handling of the Jeffrey Epstein scandal, arguing their public statements on releasing files are a performance rather than genuine transparency. He explains the legal complexities of grand jury secrecy and how the administration has opted for a path of

Aug 01, 202511 min

Note from Elie 7/25: Ghislaine Maxwell Is Not the Savior

Elie Honig discusses the ongoing Jeffrey Epstein scandal, focusing on the recent public discourse surrounding Ghislaine Maxwell's potential cooperation with the Justice Department. He argues that while there's renewed interest, successful cooperation is unlikely due to Maxwell's history of deception and silence, as well as the immense credibility challenges she presents for federal prosecutors and juries. Despite some political motivations for exploring the option, the practical and legal hurdles remain substantial.

Jul 25, 202511 min

Note from Elie 7/18: Pam Bondi: Trump’s Clueless Heat Shield

Elie Honig opens with a behind-the-scenes look at recording his new audiobook. He then pivots to a critical analysis of Attorney General Pam Bondi's mismanagement of the Jeffrey Epstein files, highlighting her public promises, subsequent reversal, and the violation of established Department of Justice policies. The episode explores how Bondi's actions left her vulnerable and seemingly enabled Donald Trump to use her as a political shield, raising significant questions about the true contents of the files.

Jul 18, 202512 min

Note from Elie 7/11: Nobody Trusts Pam Bondi

Elie Honig discusses Attorney General Pam Bondi's tenure, arguing she has eroded public trust at the Department of Justice. He highlights her history of making false claims, including regarding the 2020 election and fentanyl seizures. The episode details the controversy surrounding her handling of Jeffrey Epstein-related documents and the resulting criticism from both liberals and previously loyal Trump supporters.

Jul 11, 202510 min

Note from Elie 7/3: The Diddy Verdict — What Went Wrong?

Elie Honig breaks down the verdict in the Sean Combs trial, explaining why the prosecution failed on the most serious racketeering and sex trafficking counts despite securing convictions on lesser interstate prostitution charges. He discusses the sentencing outlook for Combs, which is significantly less severe than initially anticipated, and offers criticism of the Southern District of New York's handling of the case while crediting the defense team's strategy.

Jul 03, 20257 min

Note from Elie 6/27: The Quiet Unraveling of the Kilmar Abrego Garcia Prosecution

Elie Honig examines the Kilmar Abrego Garcia prosecution, arguing the Justice Department's case is unraveling due to overhyping, weak evidence, and reliance on questionable cooperating witnesses. He details the magistrate judge's sharp rebuke of the prosecution's arguments and explores the political context and the government's potential strategy to use deportation as an escape hatch to avoid trial.

Jun 26, 202510 min

Note from Elie 6/20: The President’s Constitutional Power to Do Stupid Things

This episode analyzes a recent Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruling concerning former President Trump's activation of the National Guard in California under Section 12406. The court reversed a lower court decision, emphasizing the broad deference owed to the president's determination in such matters. The discussion delves into the limits of judicial review regarding executive actions and the constitutional separation of powers, arguing that not all presidential decisions require judicial intervention.

Jun 20, 202512 min

Note From Elie 06/13: The Kilmar Abrego Garcia Case: Prosecution as Political Cover

Elie Honig analyzes the Justice Department's indictment of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, arguing it serves as political cover for his botched deportation and defiance of a Supreme Court order. He details the charges, contrasts them with sensational uncharged allegations, and highlights the political nature of Attorney General Pam Bondi's announcement and a prosecutor's resignation in protest. The episode critiques the use of criminal prosecution for political ends.

Jun 13, 202510 min

Note from Elie 6/06: The Supreme Court Will Settle Trump’s Tariffs – But When, and How?

Elie Honig provides updates on legal actions against the Trump administration, briefly covering the Harvard student visa issue and the new Harvard president. The main focus is the legal battle over Trump's tariffs, analyzing recent invalidations by lower courts, the legal basis under the IEPA, and subsequent appeals court stays. Honig explains why these cases are likely headed to the Supreme Court, discusses the potential timeline, analyzes the justices' possible votes, and predicts how the Court might ultimately rule on the legality of the tariffs.

Jun 06, 202511 min

Note from Elie 5/30: Trump vs. Harvard: Asymmetric Warfare

Elie Honig examines the Trump administration's multi-front legal assault on Harvard, including attempts to strip funding and target international students. He discusses the university's legal challenges and court victories against these moves. The episode argues that while Harvard may win legally, the real damage falls disproportionately on vulnerable international students caught in the crossfire of this "asymmetric warfare."

May 30, 202511 min

Note from Elie 5/23: Letitia James Started It, but Trump's Payback Isn't the Answer

This episode discusses how New York AG Letitia James weaponized her office to target Donald Trump for political purposes. It then details how the Trump administration now appears to be targeting James for retribution, outlining specific allegations against her. The analysis covers James's defense, ethical concerns regarding her use of state resources, and the potential legal outcomes, highlighting the dangerous spiral of prosecutorial retribution.

May 23, 202510 min

Note from Elie 5/16: Trump’s Government by Hysteria

Elie Honig discusses the Sean Combs trial, including the number of prosecutors and Cassie Ventura's testimony. He then critiques the Trump administration's tendency to declare emergencies and invoke obscure laws, particularly focusing on the potential suspension of habeas corpus and its historical context. He argues the administration's tactics are inefficient and often legally unsound.

May 16, 202512 min

Note from Elie 5/09: How Diddy Just Might Avoid Disaster

Elie Honig discusses the prevalence of ChatGPT, particularly on college campuses, and then dives into the federal criminal trial of Sean Combs (Diddy), analyzing the prosecution's case and potential defense strategies. He explores possible jury outcomes and advises prosecutors to focus on the violence and victims rather than sensationalizing the sex-related allegations. The episode concludes with a promotion for the "Sensory Overload" documentary.

May 09, 202511 min

Note from Rachel 5/7: Commandeering Through Intimidation

Rachel Barkow discusses the arrest of Judge Hannah Dugan and argues it's a politically motivated act by the Trump administration to intimidate judges and undermine the judiciary. She highlights the administration's strategy of 'commandeering through intimidation,' citing examples beyond the judiciary, and emphasizes the importance of public officials upholding the Constitution.

May 07, 20258 min

Note from Elie 5/02: We’ve Got 99 Immigration Problems, but the Judge Arrests Ain’t One

Elie Honig discusses the arrests of two state court judges and distinguishes these cases from valid criticisms of the Trump administration's immigration policies. He argues that while the judges actions were wrong, they should not detract from the larger issues of destructive immigration enforcement tactics. Honig also examines the political implications and potential difficulties in securing a conviction in Judge Dugan's case.

May 02, 202510 min
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