In the 42nd episode of The Copywriter Club Podcast, Kira and Rob talk with Casey Slaughter Stanton about his career path and how he found his way into marketing by pushing a lawn mower. Today he runs his own marketing and tech business, and focuses on what he calls “functional marketing”. During our conversation, we asked Casey about his approach to business and working with customers. He shared: • How you can sell more by selling to only one person • How empathetic guessing can help you connect...
Jul 25, 2017•48 min
Copy Chief Kevin Rogers is in the club for a special inbetween-isode. This is a rare, second episode this week and it’s a good one. Kevin shares his journey from high school drop out with ambitions of stocking shelves at the grocery store to highly paid copywriter, then chief of his own community for copywriters and other business owners. Here’s a sample of what we covered: • How Kevin landed his first job (and had to create writing samples first) • His “go with your gut” principle for writing g...
Jul 20, 2017•45 min
Author, coach and career change expert, Jenny Blake, joins Rob and Kira in The Copywriter Club Podcast studio this week to talk about why she organizes her book shelf by color : ). We also talk about her book, Pivot: The Only Move that Matters is Your Next One. But this isn’t just a pitch for Jenny’s book. She walked us through the process but also talked about: • How to figure out your strengths then determine where you want to be a year from now • How to scan the horizon for opportunities, peo...
Jul 18, 2017•48 min
Kim Krause Schwalm joins Rob and Kira to share her thoughts and advice about copywriting. She also talks about how she went from successful marketing director to control-beating copywriter in less than two years. It’s a great story. Along the way she shared her thoughts about: • climbing the copywriter ladder (and why it’s so lucrative) • how to stay in control of your writing process • the copywriting lessons she (re)learned from Parris Lampropolous and Clayton Makepeace • the one thing all A-l...
Jul 11, 2017•40 min
Copywriter and cold emailing specialist, Jorden Roper, joins Kira and Rob in The Copywriter Club Podcast studio for the 39th episode. Jorden is a three time college dropout who lost her job (the same day her husband lost his job at the same company) and managed to find several freelance clients within a month. She shares how she did it, and how she used cold emailing to find clients plus: • How you can do cold emailing that lands clients on day one • The cold emailing formula she used to grow he...
Jun 27, 2017•37 min
Copywriter Jessica Manuszak joins Kira and Rob to talk all things copy for the 38th episode of The Copywriter Club Podcast. Jessica specializes in capturing the unique voice of her clients. In this interview, Jessica opens up and shares the details of how she’s grown her business over the past couple of years, including... (we added the ellipsis for her benefit—you’ll see why). • How she became the top-performing salesperson with absurd scripts • The “mixtape” secret for writing in her client’s ...
Jun 20, 2017•37 min
Copywriter and business strategist, Maggie Patterson joins The Copywriter Club Podcast to talk about growing a sustainable consulting business. This is actually the second time Maggie has joined us to chat, but sadly, the first recordings are lost to history. In this second go-round (which just might be better than the lost episode), Kira and Rob get the low down on: • Exactly what it takes to grow a sustainable copywriting business • The three things you need before you can teach a skill or bui...
Jun 13, 2017•47 min
Ken McCarthy, also known as the “World’s Most Secretive Copywriter” and “Mr. Internet,” is the guest for this episode of The Copywriter Club Podcast, jammed full of great advice for any copywriter who wants to grow beyond simply writing for clients. Ken may be the only guy who can talk about speed reading, the origins of the internet, Johnny Rotten, making soup, Tested Advertising Methods, and of course, copywriting—and have it all make sense in the end. Listen and learn: • how Ken become the “w...
Jun 06, 2017•50 min
Copywriter (and photographer) Misha Hettie is in the Copywriter Club studio to talk copy and Facebook Live this week. Kira and Rob asked Misha about her business and she shared a ton of great advice, including her thoughts on: • the importance of branding yourself as a copywriter (and not looking like everyone else) • how she became a “brand story evangelist” • what beginners should do to get started on Facebook Live • what is the biggest mistake people make on Facebook Live • her “big rock meth...
May 30, 2017•36 min
LA copywriter, actor, rapper, and comedian, Jason Pickar, is in the club for the 34th episode of the podcast. This episode of The Copywriter Club Podcast comes with a warning label (for mentions of a controlled substances that are still illegal in most states). Jason's an energetic writer with a portfolio full of engaging (and award-winning) work for his clients. In addition to his career path, Rob and Kira asked him about: • How to get on the stage at The Price is Right (and meet Drew Carey) • ...
May 23, 2017•44 min
Our first guest to make an encore appearance on the club podcast is Canadian copywriter, Ry Schwartz, who just flew in from Costa Rica in time to talk with Rob and Kira about: • the new “product” Ry is launching soon with his girlfriend • using masterminds to meet potential clients • how he deals with “freak out” • how he vets clients (sometimes he asks them to sing with him) • how he conducts his R&D (and what client work has to do with it) • what he does to get people to take “uncomfortabl...
May 16, 2017•53 min
This is a special "in-between-isode" with details about our new program for new(ish) copywriters called The Copywriter Accelerator. It's all here: who it's for (and who it's not for), what we're going to cover, the bonuses you'll get, how much it costs and details about the 90-day money-back guarantee. For more details, check out www.thecopywriteraccelerator.com. Click the play button below. The people and stuff we mentioned on the show: The Copywriter Accelerator Kira’s website Rob’s website Th...
May 12, 2017•13 min
Copywriter Sarah Grear stops by the clubhouse to share how she’s built a successful copywriting business over the past five years. Sarah’s clients include course creators and entrepreneurs about to launch their products. As usual, Rob and Kira ask questions to pull back the curtain and reveal the tactics and ideas that have made her successful, including: • The two-year process she used to identify her niche • How she slowly priced herself out of doing websites (and what she charges now) • Why s...
May 09, 2017•39 min
Kate Toon joins The Copywriter Club Podcast for episode 31—all the way from Australia. She co-hosts Hot Copy, which we’ve jokingly referred to as “the second best copywriter” podcast. She casually throws out words like “scuppered” and “rubbish” and “bloomin’” as she talks with Rob and Kira about: • the backdoor she opened to land a copywriter job at Ogilvy • the “agency” skills she learned that she applies in her freelance work every day • why freelancing is so much harder than working at an age...
May 02, 2017•41 min
Kira Hug and Rob Marsh are back with another “guestless” episode where they talk about what they’re doing right in their own businesses and what challenges they are struggling with. Plus they recap a few of the things they’ve learned from the previous 10 episodes—like the importance of process, being willing to share and teach others without expecting to get something in return, taking time for yourself, balance and much more. Click the play button below, or scroll down for a full transcript. Th...
Apr 25, 2017•39 min
Rock and roll copywriter Pete Michaels joins Rob and Kira in The Copywriter Club Podcast studio to talk about his personal journey into direct response writing. He shares his thoughts about: • how to conduct “deep dive” surveys and asking the MSIQ • how he learned from mentors early in his writing career (and who his mentors are) • adding consulting to his copywriting business (and how he packages it) • the “Snap Shot” he stole from Stephen King Plus Pete mentions the book that convinced him tha...
Apr 18, 2017•42 min
Copywriter Marian Schembari joins Rob and Kira on The Copywriter Club Podcast to share her thoughts on a long list of topics, including: • How she landed a job using social media (and why she doesn’t like SM now) • How she convinces clients to focus on the “one” reader • Her process for creating awesome About Pages • Why all copywriters should work with an editor • Dealing with depression when you work alone • How she raised her rates, an • Why storytelling is so important in copywriting This is...
Apr 11, 2017•50 min
In the 27th episode of The Copywriter Club Podcast, Kira and Rob talk with a copywriter known by one name—yep, just like Cher, Prince, and Madonna—Tepsii. She shares her secret for getting referrals before she starts working with her clients, how she landed 10 clients at a conference by asking a few questions and how she organizes her projects and communicates with clients using Trello. And that’s just the first 20 minues. Don’t miss this great interview. Click the play button below, or scroll d...
Apr 04, 2017•42 min
Freelance copywriter Josh Garofalo joins Rob and Kira for the 26th episode of The Copywriter Club Podcast to talk about the importance of choosing a niche (and to go deep into it), what resources he uses to stay sharp, how to get noticed at conferences and working with other copywriters on big projects. He also shares the story of how he got into copywriting and his process for working with customers (this episode is worth listening to just for the way Josh talks about process). Check it out... ...
Mar 28, 2017•45 min
Business guru and YouTube expert James Wedmore stops by the podcast to share his thoughts about creating a tiered business that brings in income at various levels and price points, how copywriters could be using YouTube to grow their audiences, what he would do if he were a copywriter wanting to create a course, and using the formula “Be, Do, Have” to build a life around the things that matter most. If you struggle to balance work with the rest of your life, this is a must listen episode. Check ...
Mar 21, 2017•53 min
Direct response copywriter, Roy Furr, stops by The Copywriter Club Podcast to talk about writing control-beating direct mail and how he raised his rates from just $2000 per project to $20,000 plus royalties on everything he writes. We also talk about how he writes and sends an email with over 1,000 words to his list every day, what his typical day looks like, and a whole lot more. One word of caution, as we were getting started, a fire alarm went off in Roy’s office. Everyone is okay, but the su...
Mar 16, 2017•51 min
Shanelle Mullin, copywriter and content curator for ConversionXL joins The Copywriter Club Podcast with Kira and Rob talk to talk about what copywriters really need to know about testing, how she picked her career path at the age of 15, what writers can do to network more effectively at conferences like CXL Live (where Shanelle plays a big role) and how she has connected with so many “big names” online. After the last marathon episode, this one is a more reasonable length. Lots to learn here... ...
Mar 14, 2017•34 min
Direct response guru Brian Kurtz joins The Copywriter Club Podcast to talk copy. But interviewing Brian isn't like interviewing most people. He's a bit like a jazz musician who takes your question and riffs on it—sharing all kinds of great stories and advice in the process. You just let him go. In this episode, Kira and Rob asked Brian about his article, The Next Million Dollar Copywriter, in addition to questions about mastermind groups and what baseball can teach us about copywriting (listen t...
Mar 09, 2017•1 hr 2 min
Joel Klettke stops by The Copywriter Club Podcast studio to chat with Kira and Rob talk about how he launched his business as a highly paid copywriter, his process (and a roadmap for a roadmapping session), testing rates, working with other writers and relentlessly chasing down referrals to bring in new business. We asked Joel if anyone can learn copywriting and accomplish what he has, he didn’t sugar coat the answer (you’ll have to listen to hear what he said). And while we say this about a lot...
Mar 07, 2017•51 min
In the 20th episode of The Copywriter Club Podcast, Kira and Rob talk about the ideas and advice from the first 19 episodes that they've found most helpful in their own businesses. This episode is a bit like a Cliff Notes version of the podcast and a great way to catch up on the show if you've missed any of the previous discussions. But more than just a review, Rob and Kira talk about how the ideas their guests have shared have changed the way they do business. This is a great episode, don't mis...
Mar 02, 2017•44 min
Upwork specialist Danny Maguiles joins Kira and Rob for the 19th episode of The Copywriter Club Podcast, where they talk about how to create a six-figure freelance writing career working with clients on Upwork, Danny's Crystal Ball technique for winning clients, and three things copywriters can do to separate themselves from all of the other writers out there. We didn't hold back in this one—we grill Danny on the truth about working on platforms like Upwork. And honestly, we were surprised by wh...
Feb 28, 2017•46 min
Hillary Weiss is in the house for the 18th episode of The Copywriter Club Podcast. Rob, Kira and Hillary chat about finding confidence, hiring and working with a VA, Hillary’s love for Andre3000 and hip hop, the lessons she’s learned from building a course and where she’s taking her business in 2017. We tried to find links to her Star Wars Romance Fan Fiction, but so far Google has failed us. If you know where she’s hiding these nuggets, add the link in the comments. Don’t miss this fantastic ep...
Feb 23, 2017•42 min
Copywriter and analytics expert, Momoko Price, joins Rob and Kira for this 17th episode of The Copywriter Club Podcast to talk about how she has created a unique niche business that combines copywriting with analytics, how she helps clients understand the importance of analytics, the course she created for ConversionXL and much more. Data geeks won't want to miss this episode—neither will any writer who works with clients that need more conversions. Click the play button below, or scroll down fo...
Feb 21, 2017•37 min
Lacy Boggs joins Kira and Rob to talk about creating a distinctive brand voice for her own business as well as her clients, what kinds of projects she takes on (and how she prices them), the impact creating courses and other content has had on her business and the advice she would give to just-starting-out Lacy about copywriting and building a business. Lacy is an expert content creator. This episode is jammed full of great advice and helpful tips that other writers should pay close attention to...
Feb 16, 2017•38 min
Laura Belgray joins Kira and Rob to talk about everything from her work processes (she writes and brainstorms realtime with her clients watching via Skype) and finding confidence to what she would tell herself if she could go back in time to when she was just staring out and why she hasn't chosen a niche for her work. It's an in-depth discussion with the only copywriter Marie Forleo chose to create a copy course with. You don't want to miss this one. Click the play button below, or scroll down f...
Feb 14, 2017•43 min
