Hi everyone. Welcome to episode nine of the conscious podcast. On this podcast I sat down with the talented Jack Diamond, Aka Jackie Demo. Jack is an up and coming musician, traveler, surfer and lover of all things live and the ocean. We talk about some of Jack's life lessons, the experience of creating a life in Australia, how to make the most of each situation, the importance of a good mindset and appreciating moments to create happiness in life.
And we even got to enjoy a live performance of Jackson who's song at the end. So stay tuned all the way there. So much wisdom in this episode. I really enjoyed the conversation and I hope you do too.
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What are you drinking there? Jack? Cup of tea. Of course. Of course. Love it. Your Day Been Day's been epic. Yeah. What'd you get to have? I've been doing today? First of all, started off with a little surf. Yup. Yeah. Um, barrels, barrels everywhere, everywhere. Um, and then I went to my new job, uh, actually doing a bit of paint and decorating, but today we were doing some sanding of tiles.
Nice. Yeah. So we were just smashing it out, getting, getting the work done and um, yeah, bit of hard labor. Awesome. It makes them money. Yup. Yep. A bit of hard work after surfing. Oh yeah. Yeah. It was a high, high energy day. Used a lot of energy today, but I'm still feeling pretty lively. Awesome. What are you most excited about in life right now in life? Um, every day I'm excited.
Yup. Yeah. Like don't get me wrong, you always have some, you always have some days where you wake up a little bit less excited. But most of the time I'm pretty pretty stoked just to, to wake up and it's either go surf or to just kind of enjoy this beautiful place that I'm very grateful to live in. Yup. And spend it with all my amazing housemates and my friends who are I live around here with and um, just to, to try and inspire people and to try and just keep having fun. Love it.
For those that don't know you, can you give us
a wrap up of who you are and how you ended up
Australia? Wow. I'm Jack Damon. I go dream to be a musician and uh, how did I end up here? Uh, it was pretty much like pretty much by chance. Like I just went traveling, just went, went to a trip to Indonesia, went to Thailand for a bit, kind of bouncing around and kind of ended up in Byron. And here I am almost two years later also here. Whereabouts are you from in England? UH, North Devon? Yeah. Barnstable or what's the name? Good shout out to all my home in Barnstable.
Yeah, let's get him on the podcast. Let's get him unconscious. Exactly. And good childhood there. Oh yeah, I was very lucky. You know, I had a roof over my head. I had food every night. I had beaches scattered up and down the coast and I had a very good family and a very good set of friends. So yeah, I had a good upbringing. Yeah. And you were surfing over there or did you take up surfing when you got here? Uh, I was surfing over there. Yeah. Awesome. Yeah, they're a bit cold in here.
You can just surf without a wetsuit. Oh No. Maybe one or two days if you're lucky now. Awesome. So what got you into surfing though? Usually everyone in England's playing football or, yeah, I did that as well. But, uh, actually my dad, um, my dad used to work in a surf shop on the beach and he was always kind of, uh, going surfing and he kind of took me one day. And ever since then it's kind of like I was always around the beach and I was always something that I enjoyed doing. Um, yeah.
And then definitely since I got older and I realized that you could travel and there was all these epic surf destinations across the globe, which weren't so cold. And um, yeah, like just, just definitely is inspired me in so many different ways to just to go in the water every day. Yep.
Yeah. Awesome. And music as well. Yeah. Yeah. So we, we actually met through a jazz who was our previous guest on the podcast and you're jazz's housemate and jazz was like, you gotta come check out this guy, he's awesome on the guitar and we send you busking the other night and you're doing an awesome job. And Yeah. What, how did that come about? We always playing guitar back home.
Um, actually riding songwriting, I was always like, me and my group of friends back home, we were all, we were all pretty, uh, into music, you know, like, but I never really saw it until I came here. I never really saw it as something that I actually wanted to like do with my life. You know, I never saw, I never really was open enough to have the belief in myself and to have the belief that actually this is something that I could potentially like make money out of, you know, and to as a career.
Yeah. And to, to also to, to inspire other people to do the same. And Yeah, until I really came here, I was always playing music, you know, from, I always, I used to play drums when I was like nine years old, something like that. It was always whacking, whacking the shit out jobs. Can I say that? Okay, we can swim now. Um, uh, and I was always, I was always tapping a beat or doing something, you know, as always, uh, always really into my music, you know?
And I think that the, as we, as I went on, like the older, you know, I started picking up the guitar and uh, a few of my mates are into like deejaying and producing electronic music. So I've always been around music. Music's always been a part of my life. And um, and then as soon as I got over here I saw these people like on the street playing guitar and like making a bit of money and like I was more kind of like back home.
It was more kind of like deejaying, you know, like there wasn't as many people playing acoustic music and that kind of stuff. And I think when I got here and I saw all these people kind of playing, playing on the street or just, just being around people who were playing a lot more music, I was like actually like this is pretty cool. You know, like I want to get another, I want to get a guitar again and start like playing.
And not really with the idea that I was going to like start writing songs and all that kind of jazz. But like I definitely started, started playing a lot more music. Yup. Yeah. And so you're writing your own songs as well? Yes. And what, what style of music do you have firstly and then what sort of stuff do you write about? Uh, so how would you call my music? What Jack?
And it's kind of like chill acoustic, kind of, they're not all chilled out and I kind of, there's a definitely a big influence from like loads of different styles. I take influence from Jack Johnson and this kind of, I guess you could say like hip hop kind of influence with kind of some of the rockiest stuff. And then, um, what was the other part of the question again? What do you write about? What I write about?
I write about, uh, I try to try and I try and use my music to, to express anything that I've learned. Not Always, but in Stephanie and some of my songs, like some of the things that I've learned about through experience and maybe like sharing, I guess what you could say, his wisdom and uh, giving a little bit of a message through the music to people who need it.
Yeah. Yeah. And what would you say you enjoy most about riding and then performing a, what do I do it, I'm just like get getting people involved and making, like, just being able to share your music really is like pretty, it's a pretty amazing gift to have. You know, I think that everybody's, everybody's got something to give to, to everyone in the wild, like whatever is whatever your gift is to give.
Um, you definitely feel a sense of like filming of that when somebody enjoys your music or when, when you get to share that experience with the people, you know. And I think that's what's important. That's so awesome. And
what would you say like, cause you, you came over here, uh, two years ago, was it to Australia and so you'd say your backpacker, backpacker. Yeah. How did you find that experience?
Being a backpacker? Yup. Come into a different country. Finding your feet. You know, like probably one of the best decisions I could have ever made.
It really, if I'm being honest like although like have spent so like so long away from everything, you know, you know like when when you grow up in a town where you know all the people, you've got your, you've got your set of friends and you've got your, you've got your job and you've got like I kind of, I was lucky to have like things gifted to me, you know, I didn't have to maybe work so hard for, and I think that like coming away and being away from everyone you know and everything, you know,
you're forced to be out of your comfort zone so you have no option but to grow, you know, you have no option but to become better in different areas of your life. And I think that like through leaving my home, I think I definitely grew a lot faster than maybe if I'd have just stayed in the same place and maybe I opened my mind up to a lot of different things, like for example, music and many other things as well.
So I think that like everybody should, should put themselves out of their comfort zone and she should go out and try and see the world.
Yeah. And how old were you when you came over?
I would have been 20 when I came here.
Yeah. And at such a young age to leave, that's when most people were still in uni. They're still comfortable with, they're still maybe at mum and dad's and they're just, they're just chill on partying every weekend.
Yeah, that's it. That's it. It was kind of, yeah. I didn't expect to stay for so long, you know, like I didn't expect to still be here. And I think that's the same, you could say that about anything in life is like you don't know what's going to happen as much as you try and plan as much as you try and plan your life out. Like you don't really know where you're going to end up or who you're going to end up with. And the way that it worked out is pretty fucking awesome.
So cool. Cause like I can relate to that because at 19, I moved overseas to Europe and it's like I exactly what you're saying, like I had to step out of that comfort zone and that's where all the growth came from. Yeah. And as much as you know, people can give you advice on that, you just have to figure it out and you're in a different country, you know, fortunately for you they spoke English.
Um, and then at least there's a, um, there's a, a relationship between, between Great Britain and Australia. It's, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. Which wouldn't matter. A little bit of simple, little more simpler than I'm a country that didn't speak the same language or the, Oh, for sure if there was any difficulties. But yeah, it's such an admirable thing to do that and at such a young age to figure it out. And now you're still here two years later and thriving. Yeah, I'm loving it. It's good.
It's fucking awesome. So what's one profound thing that you've realized this year, so far?
Uh, this year so far
that's been something that's stood out to you, that you've learned,
I guess you could say like selflessness, like it's so easy to think that life's all about you, you know, cause that like definitely like it's so easy to develop an ego and it's so, it's so easy to think that like what you want when you base everything in your life around what you want, um, you kind of dig yourself a hole, you know, and you, if you're, if you're always looking forward to these, to these things, whatever is that you're looking at, you're trying to, to, um, to achieve for yourself.
Like you kind of, yeah. Like I said, you dig yourself a hole and you just make yourself kind of unhappy, you know, and when you, when you kind of realize it's not about me, but it's about we, um, I think everything becomes a bit a lot easier, you know, and it from a day to day basis, whether it's your work or whatever, it's the people you spend your time with. Um, yeah. Just trying to, trying to be a bit less selfish.
Yeah, definitely. And I want you to talk about the four months and you can explain more about what that four months is because you told it to us the other night and I was just like, you have to, you have to share that because one where you were and then how that happened and in the four months of being in that situation.
Okay. What's her living in my car? Yeah. So I lived in my car for four and a half months. Yeah. How'd you get in that situation? Uh, so I was actually living with a family, um, a really awesome family, not far from here. And, um, yeah, their daughter had to move back in and I was in one of the rooms that she was gonna move back into and uh, it just was the right time for me to, it's kind of leave and I was just like, okay, like sweet. That's it. No worries. Like it's not problem things happen.
So I decided, okay, let's go and live them. I had a, I got station wagon, Holden commodore as classic. I bought it because I knew it'd be able to get parts and yeah, I lived in my car for four and a half months, um, outside people's houses and outside next to the speech and just kind of just around the, around the area. Um, and I was fully stoked, you know, I was like, I was living in a car feeling like a king, you know, like I wake up every day.
There wasn't a day where I kind of woke up and thought like, oh, this is going to be a bad day. You know, like I was stoked every time. I like, like I was saying bill other night, like sometimes you do wake up in the morning and you kind of open your eyes and you're like, oh, like the days began and you feel a bit, you have those days where you're not quite straight up our bed. And then like, I was like, just starting out bed everyday. I was like, right, sweet.
Waking up a strict to the beach, go and running on the beach, going surfing, you know, like just live in the most simple life, but really just like enjoying it, you know? Yeah. Having a good time.
Yeah. You're making the most of a situation, which most people would be like, this is probably one of the lowest points in life type thing. Like, I, I've never done it, so I can't relate to that. But yeah. I guess would you put that down to a mindset that you've developed yourself or was that always instilled in you through childhood that, you know, make the most of everything, appreciate everything and have that positive mindset or optimistic mind?
Yeah. Um, I think that's something that you kind of, you kind of, I definitely always had it in me a bit, but at the same time, like Frou frou living in the car, like I had no option but to, to enjoy it, you know? And it's, it doesn't matter what your situation is. Like if you, however you choose to look at it is how it's going to change the way it feels for you. You know, like you can wake up everyday and think, holy crap, this sucks. You know?
And like you could, you could get down about it and at the end of the day it's not going to change your situation. You know? And if you, if you, if you change the way that you, you look at it every day, then you're going to like, I fully believe in the law of attraction, you know? And so like by feeling good and by, by having a good outlook and by just enjoying that time because I knew maybe it wasn't going to be forever, you know, like, um, he made the most out of it, you know?
And just how to yeah, just doing it.
Yeah, I liked that. And we've, we've touched on that in a few podcast episodes where yeah, it's having that perception, but these are the cards you've been dealt and it's just like, I've just got to figure it out on exactly that mindset and that optimism where you were like, Hey, I'm,
this is awesome living like a king. I'm saving money and I get, I get to live near the beach wherever I want to live and get up and surf and do the thing you love doing most. And that's, I mean, that's awesome. Yeah. One more they want. Exactly, man. I like it. It really is the way you look at it and you know, like if you can't be, if you can't be grateful for what you have, then like how can you be grateful for what you have now? You know?
Like, I can't be, I can't live in a car and still like you can still wake up and be grateful for things like whatever, whatever you like, no matter how little you have, you can always find a reason to be grateful for something. I think that like, and I, I did feel like good living in the car. There wasn't a time where I was kind of like bummed out about it. Like maybe the cookies maybe sometimes it got too hot.
Like I'm not trying to say it was like perfect, but like definitely it wasn't, it wasn't terrible. I liked to, I had a good time.
Awesome. Um, full disclosure, he lives in a house, has a shake me up, took me a while to become domestic, that's for sure. Have a shower every couple of days. Every few days now. Not every day. So what's your favorite lesson you've learned in life?
My favorite lesson? Um, what's my favorite lesson in life? Hmm. Feel good on the inside and let everything on the outside take care of itself, I think. Don't worry, like nothing that's outside of you can, can make you change the way you feel, you know, so like, um, just like we were saying about perception or it's the way you look at things or whether it's, um, maybe it's something that you want or maybe it's people, maybe it's um, like whatever is outside of you.
If you're depending on that, then you're only going to have temporary happiness. Whereas, but as you just switch it around and think like, okay, let's just focus on like how I feel inside first. Let's just think like basically your faults and your perception changed the way you feel. Like change your emotions and then basically just go from there and just try and try and let everything else do the magic and the fall into place.
Yeah. Love that. Love that. I think a lot of people should take that on board because it's being grateful for what you have and then using that perception and mindset to attract more things in your life. Yeah. Or figure it out. Being in flow, flow, flow, the word or the, uh, the word of the weekend flow. Get in the flow. That's it. Ah, what is the worst thing that has ever happened to you and how has that the best thing that's ever happened to you?
The worst things ever happened to me. Wow. Mm. I'm rubbing my nipple.
You can't see this. Okay. This got weird.
That wisdom comes from it comes, he just rubbed though enough and then it would just, I get, um, um, wait, what's the question? The worst thing. Okay. And how is it the best thing? Um, the worst things. I don't know what the worst thing is. Okay. So there's, so I got a before actually came here when I was in Bali, so this is a bit of a stupid story. Partially maybe it's TV. Okay. So I decided to get braces for some reason. I was like, okay, for some reason I had, I had funky Tif. Right?
Yep. Um, and I was like, okay, I could get braces. And I was like, this was in, this is in barley. You want to get braces in barley. I decided like, okay, I've got enough money. You're kind of like, let's get, let's get some like, cause I, I was always looking at my teeth and I was like, they were never really super bad, but for some reason I was always like, fuck it would look awesome if I got bracelet on. And I was like, well, I've got money.
And I'm like, potentially, I'm like, it could be way cheaper here, you know, like why not? And I remember so yeah, cut long shore store. I went and got prices involved and yeah, I got the um, and yeah, basically the dude put them on and it turned out that like he didn't, he, he kind of, uh, kind of pulled a fast one on me and, uh, Dan. Dot. Like he put them on and he'd, he'd, he'd actually took some of my, like raise it, some of them down so they'd fit in as well. And, um, yeah, I know.
And, and I like, and then, yeah, basically it turned out when I got here, cause I was gonna stay there for a lot longer than I did. Um, I went and saw a dentist here and I was like, what? What's going on? He was like, can you just check out my teeth and just like, tell me, I'm like, what's what I need to do? I was like, hopefully in my mind I was like, okay, I just got a few months with these things and then I can get them off.
And he was like, dude, like, um, yeah, you're, the guy screwed you over. He's like, you've basically, you've got the like, and in my mind at the time I was like, I want to be traveling. I was, I'm going to be moving around like, like so, so to be pulled down to one place at that time, for me, it was like a nightmare, you know? And I started getting like these headaches and this pain because my teeth weren't aligning.
So I don't know if you know much about teeth, but like there's that they have to align for your jaw to be comfortable and for you to actually, um, to, to just navigate through day to day life. So I was getting headaches daily, like just from my teeth because they weren't aligning. And then I had the news that it was going to cost me a whole load more money, like a few more [inaudible] like yeah, I know. Um, so basically had headaches.
I spent all my fucking money and were teeth and I had to be glued down to one spot when I was like planning on traveling. So basically it was like, Holy Shit at this time I look like an idiot because I tell my parents as like, okay mom, dad. I like what the fuck? Sorry. I keep saying, well have you got on your teeth and what's going on? Like what the hell? What happened? Cause I didn't tell them it was getting, I just went and didn't it just kind of spur of the moment thing.
Yeah. So it was all, at that time it was like, holy crap. Like what have I done? I'm an idiot, I'm a complete idiot. But anyway, it kind of, um, it glued me down to this spot. It glued me here for a year, you know, more than a year, year. And a half. I had to, part of the reason why I stayed was because I had to get them finished and I say yeah. And so basically if I didn't, if I didn't get those braces, I wouldn't still be here. I wouldn't be playing music. I wouldn't be living in this house.
And I probably wouldn't be like, like, so basically it was a blessing in disguise. It was like the worst thing ever. But it taught me how to appreciate and be happy in one place. You know, I had to be happy in one place and I had no option and it made me fall in my dream and it turned out to actually be the best thing ever. You know, like, but probably not trust the dodgy. I know. Yeah. That's my worst thing that turned out so speak.
So they ended up taking them off and putting on a proper, oh, I had to get two teeth removed. Hi. So good to t for move, which also costs the hell load more money. Um, but yeah, like it turned out to be the best thing. Best thing ever. Yeah. And it's kind of like, it's funny because at the time I'd hate telling people that story and they're like, people ask you that, why he got braces are, I got them in barley.
And like now it's okay to look back on it because I'm like, I'm free from him and my teeth were sweet and I'm fucking happy and states, but at the time it was an absolute nightmare. It could have been a lot worse. Yeah. It could have been a lot worse. And sorry for anyone that's had any really bad stories, I suppose that wasn't that bad, but it could, it could be worse happen things happen to you. But at the time it was pretty bad. Yeah. Let's, uh, let's all take a lesson from that.
So basically what I'm trying to say is anything that might seem bad at the time, whatever happens to you, um, just look on the bright side, you know, like you ain't heard from him, you only grow from it, you know, and that's, yeah. So yeah, I believe in blessing in disguise. I look at everything like a blessing in disguise. You know, I just told you about losing my job the other day. Yeah. So I got fired from my job and I've walked out like, yeah. Like whatever. That's cool.
Like it was supposed to happen and the same day I got given another job with a higher pay raise and yeah. Better opportunity yet at the same day. So yeah. Not everything that happens to you that is bad is actually bad. I agree. What's the best advice you've ever been given? Wow. Um, what's the best advice I've ever been? That can be from a video, from a book, from a person.
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Maybe don't try and please other people don't try. And, uh, it's very easy when you get yourself in social social situations to want to stand out and to want to be someone that's seen as being popular or being seen as being, uh, I don't know if you'd say better, but like very easy to develop an IGA. And uh, somebody I met when I was living in the backpackers, you know, like you're living in this confined space.
Uh, I lived in a backpackers by the way when I first got here, uh, and we were living in this backpackers like all together, like, uh, like a load of group glows to people and it's very easy to become like this person. Like, oh, he's the guy who has sex with all the girls or he's the guy who does the blah blah blah. He's the, she's the something or like people want, people want to like be seen as someone important just by their, like their actions and like I think it's important.
Somebody told me like when maybe I was a little bit anxious at that time, I wasn't quite the person that I am now. I wasn't fully comfortable around other people and he kind of said like, look dude, like I've been there too. Like I felt the same way. He's like, you, you don't have to try and be anyone here. You don't have to please anyone. You can just be yourself. You know, you can just do the things you want to do and like you don't have to try and be that person. So video authentic.
You just be, just be, try and be yourself and don't, don't worry about popularity. Work on your skills, work on your, what you can do for, for others rather than trying to be something to someone else. Try and actually do something for someone else and you'll definitely benefit more from it I think. Awesome. Love that. What advice would you give to your 16 year old self? Apart from don't go to Bali and from a guy in a shack. It wasn't in a shack, it was barley international.
I should be like shaming them as I should get my money back. Really had to find a way. Um, uh, sorry. It's a advice to my 16 year old self. Well, um, I was 16 years old.
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A lot of the stuff that I've already said, but if it's going to be a phrase like, um, it could be pieces of advice. This is a bit advice. Uh, I don't know. Everything's going to fall into place where, I don't know, like just, just keep, just don't look too far ahead, but look too far in the future and just enjoy each day as it comes.
I guess and just know that one day, yeah, you're going to pop anyway and you're going to be on the one thing we all know is that we all go like anything that my dad's ever said to me when I was young guys. Things like, yeah, like sooner or later you will go to the, he'd always say like, well, at the end of the day we all go in a box under the ground anyways, so you just, and luckily enough I had that advice then. But um, yeah, just those kinds of things man.
Just follow your heart, follow your heart, do what you want to do and don't be confined to what society sometimes tells us today. Yeah. It's okay to live in a car [inaudible] car and just go get powered barrows every morning. That's it. Um, what's an important value that you hold close to you and important value. Okay. So
yeah.
Um, an important value.
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just basic manners. I think that everyone should have basic manners and just say thank you and please for everything. Um, whether it's the food that you eat or whatever, it's the views you get to enjoy or whatever. It's the people you get to spend your time with. Just always be grateful. Yeah. Awesome. What's the biggest problem or what's a big problem that you think needs to be talked about more in society?
So I think that we should, um, we should try and I said, look at you when I'm talking to you. My eyes, we should try and I think that we should change the way we look at our work because, um, it's sometimes seen as quite a negative thing. Uh, people would think like, oh no, I've got good to work. You know, I've got, I've got to go and slave away and make, make my money and just make ends meet.
And I think that like, if we can, if we look at our work at the end of the day, your work is one of the biggest parts of giving you any sort of meaning on, on, on, um, it's while we owe walk this earth, you know, like, um, so I think that like, so many people think that like, oh, maybe if, imagine how great life would be if I just didn't, I had all the money in the world, you know, I just had my big house or whatever it is, and I could just sit on my ass and do whatever I want.
You know, it's like, well, but even if you had all of those things, like you wouldn't feel fulfilled, you know, you wouldn't feel like your life has any meaning because you'd still have these things you'd have all this time and how there's money, but you wouldn't feel like your life has meaning. And so our work is what gives us meaning.
So if we can kind of like reverse that and kind of look at it as more of a way, it's like, okay, so while I'm here on this planet, I need to find some sort of way to give my life some meaning. Okay, so how, how can I, how can I, so money is a natural consequence of the delivering value. Okay, so how am I going to deliver value to other people's lives? And if we just fought over it is a fact of life.
Okay, so what, what am I going to do for others that's going to allow others to benefit and then it's going to make me feel good and it's also going to then give me money to survive. But I think that we only look at jobs as what they can give us and not what we can give them.
Well, not everyone of course, but like, I definitely think that there's, there's that kind of, um, there's a little bit of negativity around like work when really work is like what gives you life any sort of meaning anyway, you know, like doing things like this or helping people. If your design work or whether it's playing music or whatever, like it's jazz or any of us, the things that we do for other people, that's what gives us meaning.
So I think we should change the way that we look at work, not what it can give us, but what we can give other people.
And that reminds me a lot of what I heard from Jay Shitty who's, you're also a big fan. Yeah. Yeah. And he says that your, your passion is for you, your purpose. Yes. But others. Yes. So that passion is, you know, having that passion and loving that is great. But then giving that to others in service is what's going to give you meaning in life. So you gotta be doing the things you love, but then yes, servicing that to other people for sure.
And that's what gives you that fulfillment, that happiness in life. Because during the things you love and you pass it. I think one thing that I learned in a, in a, I think it was a seminar from Ben Harvey, was everyone has something that they love doing and they're passionate about.
And then the lights them up, excited everything and that thing, no matter what it is, whether it's gardening, whether it's cleaning the floor, whether it's seeing guitar, writing, music, playing soccer, someone, the thing that we all benefit from in life is sharing that with other people and helping improve their daily life. So whether it is writing music, if you were to then write music and improve someone's Day just by the lyrics in your songs, you're going to feel fulfilled, aren't you?
Yes. It's going to improve their day. So figuring out those things that you love doing and figure out a way to share that with people because there's going to be people out there that will either want to enjoy that, learn from it, or they'll pay you for that. Yes, exactly. Yeah. That's what service comes from.
I totally agree. Um, yeah, and one thing that I, I definitely, I learned from that what you were saying about like passion and purpose, you know, it was like I'm extremely passionate about surfing. You know, like I love to go surfing. It's one of the things that I'll probably do for the rest of my life. But surfing for myself isn't something that gives me purpose. You know, it's gray, like and dedicating a lot of time, like there's no better feeling than just getting like a huge barrel.
Like no, there's no doubts about it. Like it's exhilarating, but the, at the same time, um, it's not as fulfilling as sometimes if you put yourself into the service of teaching someone to surf, you know, like there's some sort of different fulfillment that you get out of actually helping somebody else get better at something, you know? And that's something I learned from doing surf lessons.
Like when I, when I used to do it to begin with, maybe I wasn't as confident eva, but like I, I to be teaching people and I show them what to do, but I wouldn't, I wouldn't go round in my lessons and help as much. I'd kind of be like, oh, they don't really want my help that I just stand back and kind of watch. And I'd be like cruising through. And then I got an, I was actually reading the, um, the, the Bhagavad Gita, which you've already big fan. Yeah, that's a good one.
Um, and that was talking about the idea of like selfless service, which is another thing that like JJ and all those people like they, they bang on about is like losing yourself in the service of others. And um, I felt like, okay, like let's give this stuff a go. Like, you know, why not? Okay. Um, and instantly in my lessons I was like, all right, today I'm just going to like, I'm just going to help everyone as much as possible. I'm just getting to like, get these people stoked.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna, um, I'm gonna actually give them as much advice as I can to actually see them trying to like try and help them improve. And instantly, as soon as I went in with that mindset, I felt just like, your mind feels a lot lighter. You know, you're, you're actually, it's true. You do feel that sense of like peace you just, because you're like, you're actually just trying to help these people get better at surfing.
And then when you see that they're actually like enjoying it and they're, they're really thankful for what you've told them, all the advice that you've given, they're all like, you automatically feel like, fuck yeah. Like I actually, I, I, I made an impact from someone today.
I actually helped someone have fun or help someone get better at something and there's a different sense of, uh, there's a different feeling that you get from doing that as to just riding the wave for yourself, you know, just, just, which is obviously I still never stopped doing, but it's just, I think it's, it's important to have that balance in your life.
Like there's, there's things that you've got to do for yourself, like, but you need to find the time to try and do things for other people too. Yeah. Awesome. I agree. If you had 30 days left to live and you had all your current resources, what would you do? Let me count resources. Um, what did I do? I would keep doing what I'm doing. Um, yeah, there's nothing I would change. Probably have, maybe I'll quit my job more, play more music. And what I'm doing right now. It's good. I enjoy it.
Awesome. And what if you had unlimited resources, what would you do?
Did Resources? What would I do for 30 days? Wow. Um, it's 30 days left to live. And you had unlimited resources to live unlimited resources. What I did, well I definitely would go and I probably get on a boat and like definitely south to Indonesia, um, at a fly. I fly down to Tasmania and, and get my girlfriend to this. You'd be like, ah, got it, got it. Put on that. Uh, and then the cheese is coming out and then we'd be heading straight to Indonesia.
We have a big bag of rice and some fishing rods. I probably, and I just be like surfing and uh, yeah, just probably go and get my friends and I just go get everyone. Actually I go and get my mom and my dad and all my friends back home. All my friends here go and just chuck them on a boat. And then we just had to Indonesia, we'd have all the musical instruments we need, big sound system, some decks to, and just like just have a party for like 30 days.
And then in the meantime just try and, um, try and help as many people as possible as well. We've all that money, just put it
awesome. Love it. The party, the party boat. And what's most meaningful to you in life right now?
Wow. Okay. Um, that's a very deep question. Um, what's most meaningful to me? Um, tell you the people, the people in my life are the most meaningful.
Yup. Yup. And what impact do you want to have on other people in the community and in the world, in your life?
Um, I just want everybody to, to live that most happy life, you know, and uh, if I can do that through, through music or that would be amazing. And just inspire people along the way to, to enjoy every day as it comes.
Awesome. And what's the goal with your music career?
I suppose the goal is to, to make a sustainable living for myself and the people around me. And to hopefully to hopefully improve a few people's lives and to hopefully, uh, enjoy it while well, enjoy, just enjoy it as well while I'm doing it. And so not to be attached to the outcome, but at the same times be driven enough to, to, to keep going into, to keep creating and to try and share what I have with the world. Excellent. What does it mean to you to be conscious?
To be conscious is to be aware of the moment, I guess. Uh, yeah, just to try and I'm not a fucking master at by any means yet. There's definitely times where I'm not 100% in the moment, you know, but like to be, uh, to try and to try and be as in the moment as possible and to be aware of yourself, um, before anything else is what I think it's being conscious. And how do you think raising consciousness and awareness amongst ourselves, how can that benefit the community?
I think that like, uh, basically any, any if you're, if you can improve yourself in any way, like whether it's your consciousness, what's going on? Huh? The quote? Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah. That quote, we can only change the world if we change ourselves. So that comes back to kind of the idea of, um, like we can't, there's so many things in the world that we wished that we could change, you know, that are so out of our control.
Like we just, there's no way that we were all just individuals, you know, like there's no nothing, there's nothing that we can just do that's going to change something like, um, like for example, a war, there's a war happening. Like we can't go in, we can't go and change a war if we're not already ourself. Peaceful and loving. You know what I mean? Or we can't, we can't change, we can't pull someone else up out of a hole if we're not already out of that hole. Do you know what I mean?
So if you can change yourself first and you can be the person, then you can be the person to pull the other person at the whole. But if you're not out of the hole, you can't pull the other person out in the hall too, you know, just pushing each other back and it's actually so, so before you try and help anybody else, and before you try, um, before you, before you do anything, you need to focus on yourself and you need to find a what it is within you that really likes your spark.
And then once you've, once you've, once you've let your flame, you can hopefully then go unlike many other flames, you know, and um, yeah. So by, by making yourself better and by improving woo bye. Yeah. By improving yourself, then you can, like I said, hopefully benefit other people, um, in spa, yakked other people, wherever it's as simple as like a smiling at someone passing on that like everything is just like a chain reaction.
Um, so, so I think that you should, you should, uh, yeah, focus on yourself first and then try and hopefully you can, you can help other people for that. I agree. Is there anything else you want to, you want the audience to know the listening. Is there anything else? I want the order. You want to share anything with the listeners? Um, Jackie Demos, wisdom.
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I guess I just want to say rock and roll baby. Welcome Ron. Just keep doing you focus on yourself and uh, hopefully we can all thrive and not just survive. [inaudible] thank you Tony Robbins for that quote. Awesome man. Where can people find you and where can they find out more about you? Um, come to Lennox head. Yup. Um, I live at, I can say that.
Um, if you want to go into my Instagram, it is Jackie Dame-o, j a c k y d a y m o and um, yeah, there's lots of more hopefully good things that I can share with the world and um, yeah, basically head to my Instagram. That's probably, why am I still do magic happens. Yep. And if you ever in Byron Bay, you might have the pleasure of saying come onto the streets of Byron Bay and I'm, hopefully she had some good times. Awesome. Awesome. And you've got a song you want to play for us?
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sharing so much tips and wisdom. Thank you Carla and Matt, you are an absolute legend mate. Thanks for having me straight back at you and hopefully we get to catch up now. You know, back at you.
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