Colin Cowherd Podcast - Tyler Dunne on Rodgers/Packers Divorce, Love Transition, Fields Future

Just use the promo code Colin and download the fan Duel app today. Hi, everybody, welcome in. We got a good one today. Tyler done, Who's been doing this for a while. Golongtv dot com covers the Packers also lives in Upstate New York. All over the dissension with the Buffalo Bills. It's real. Regarding the head coach Sean McDermott.

There are those around the organization, including the Bills Mafia, disturbed by what they see inside deals on a team that appears to be great, but regressing the Bills, especially with Kansas City winning another title, what does that mean for them? Latest on Aaron Rodgers still think the Raiders make so much sense. I want to start with this though.

So I was listening to a digital brief digital piece by JJ Reddick on a podcast, and he was defending modern day players and Jana specifically on how great he is. And you know, I collected baseball and NBA cards when I was a kid, but I'm not a sports romantic. I think it's one of the reasons that I just don't spend a ton of time watching or talking about baseball. It's very much a rear view, mirror sport steeped in

its lore and history. And you know, one of the things I like about the NFL Sunday is all that matters. And I feel the same way you know about the NBA. We don't spend a ton of time, although the Michael Jordan Lebron debate certainly gets plenty of airtime. But clearly nutrition's better, training is better, the skill level is better. It's now much more of a global game. Europe is all in Asia, There's there's players everywhere. But I will say this, there are four or five things to me

that make a great player an all time great. Your skill level, You can do multiple things. Your production. You have to be productive, you have to win. Great players win, your uniqueness, do you do things others haven't, and your replaceability. You know Tim Duncan the Spurs Greg Popovitch an all time coach. Spurs have been a disaster since he left. Tim Duncan is one of the twelve greatest basketball players I've ever seen. I don't care about MVPs where you

are in the scoring list. All the players I think are all time greats are productive, and four current players are part of the twelve greatest players I've ever seen. And that's something when you consider how long the NBA has been going on. The first dynasty was George Mike and the Minneapolis Lakers. After that it was the Celtics in the sixties. In no particular order, the twelve greatest basketball players I've seen based on production, winning, skill level, replaceability, uniqueness, Lebron,

Steph k D and Jannis are all in it. I think Jannis, if you look at guys of his size, his ability to bring the ball up the floor, hit a jumper, He's the best player in any given moment in the NBA on both ends of the floor. Steph, Lebron k D and Jannis. I think k D in a one on one tournament would be the greatest NBA player of all time. He could dribble past the bigs, he could shoot over Lebron or MJ. I think Katie's an all time talent. The others are Shack, Kobe, MJ, Wilt,

Kareem Duncan, Bird and Magic. I didn't see Russell play live, he was limited offensively. Did not watch Oscar Robertson a Keem Barkley, Doctor j all very very good. But those are the twelve greatest basketball players I've ever played. But JJ Reddick's point is nobody is a perfect player. You know. Lebron's pretty darn close. He passes, handles the ball, defends, shoots at an all time level. He's not a great three point shooter. He's very streaky. But Michael Jordan was

not a three point shooter. Kobe always had better range. Michael Jordan was a good ball hand a little bit of very average pass or. He didn't intend to pass very much, nor did Kobe. But the players are better today. I think we're very lucky, in my opinion, for the twelve greatest players in basketball are playing right now, And I don't think that is hyper. I don't think it's unrealistic. I think Steph Curry is the greatest shooter of my lifetime.

Lebron's arguably the greatest player. K D is the single hardest offensive player to stop who can also put the ball on the deck. Kareem not really. And then Janis, who is last four years to me, is elevated in the most talented basketball era now, the most global basketball era. Now he's the most dominant player. You know, esthetics do matter in sports because how we view games now is overwhelmingly on TV and not live. And you know, I do think it's easy to pick on the NBA because

the seasons are very long. Like hockey, you're talking over eighty games, overnight travel, sleep deprivation, and the toll it takes on your body. Unlike football. You're not being tackled, but you get such a rest period after football games. Even the short Thursday games you play Sunday afternoon, you play Thursday night. You don't really hit in practice that week. That's the shortest between NFL games, you know, and that's

four full days. But I do think, you know, I noticed this the other night when Boston, all five starters sat for their game against Milwaukee, and Jason Tatum there's an argument to be made of all the top NBA players between the minutes and games he played, he deserves a rest, but there are other games you could rest. I thought it was a classic example of here was a calendar game, a circlet on your calendar game. Celtics made it a close game, went to overtime before they lost.

But it's a bad look and something that needs to be duly noted is the NBA negotiated nine days off in the middle of the season for the NBA All Star Game. I am not opposed to that, but if you're going to get nine days off, then you got you gotta play. If you're a Celtic starter in Milwaukee, you just gotta play. You just gotta play. I think some young fans don't realize that it wasn't that long ago, honestly,

that players flew commercial. If you played in Boston and the next night you were playing in Miami or wherever Atlanta, you were often on the first flight in the morning on Continental airlines or United Airlines, you'd be sitting next to a Celtic. Now everybody's got their own team playing, So the luxuries of quadrupled the All Star break nine days for a majority of the players. And simultaneously, Jalen Hurts is playing hurt all through the playoffs. Patrick Mahomes

is playing with like a Grade two level. I think it's a grade two level high ankle spring So when you have NFL players who are playing with the kind of ankle sprain that keeps players out, puts them on the injured reserve list, You're getting nine games off for an All Star game. I just think it's a bad look for the NBA. Yes, I think there are too many NBA games, but these have been negotiated. Do I really believe if he went from eighty two to seventy games,

players wouldn't miss games. We ask more and more of our football players play another week, another round of a playoff game. The athletes are bigger and stronger, the hits are harder and come faster, and they still fight to get on the field. It's a badge of honor to play hurt. I thought that Milwaukee Boston game, and I know Jalen Brown had been hit in the face. I'm not saying everybody had to play. I thought that was such a bad look, as we're getting ready a week

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been writing about the Buffalo Bills. We have been highly critical of Sean McDermott on my radio and TV show. In an offensive pivoting league, they really feel like they're playing nineteen eighty three football. Let's first start, though, with your Green Bay updates. So there are certain things that are already out that the Packers are willing if Aaron wants out to move, they are happier today than a year ago. With Jordan Love. They would send him to

the AFC, not the NFC. That stuff's all out. Mark Murphy said last week, we'd like him to give us a decision sooner than later. Those four things are all out. My take has been a pretty simple one that if Jordan Love is a B level quarterback, that this is a pretty good roster. With an additional first round pick, maybe a third, Packers draft and develop at a pretty high level. They need an edge rusher, another tight end. They're pretty good. So any apprehension would lead me to

believe they have huge concerns about Jordan Love. So let me start with this. From what I can tell, it does feel like they feel pretty good about Love as a potential starter. Is that what you go from? You know, recent discussions. You know, I've tried to talk to as many players as I possibly can these last couple of weeks, Colin, because it does harken back to two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight when Green Bay went from Brett Farr to Aaron Rodgers. They could make that move. Ted

Thompson saw it every day in practice. And if anybody knows if Jordan Love is ready, it's those players. It's the teammates, It's it's who sees this quarterback day in and day out, because they haven't really seen much on game day. What they have seen has been really, really promising in that Philadelphia game, and to a man, player to player, guys who have been on the scout team have faced him in practice. They insisted Jordan Love as ready to be a starter in the NFL, and I

guess it kind of dates back. Even a Jamal Williams who was just with him that that rookie season. He held up his hand when I saw him in Arizona. He's like, look at this pinky and it's all busted up, because, yeah, that's from Jordan Love. You know, he's sift it to my finger. There is a rookie they got. The guy can sling it. He's got some rare physical gifts. That that's the reason they drafted him. That that's what popped.

But since that point forward, I think he's learned the offense and I think he's learned how to read defenses and he's putting it all together. You saw in that Philadelphia game he hit that back foot and the ball was out. He can run Matt Laclour's offense. Yeah. Um, you know there's concern in San Francisco that Trey Lance, it was reported this week, isn't as athletic as San Francisco hoped and he struggled with accuracy. My takeaway is Jordan Love right now is a more refined Trey Lance.

He is athletic and he is accurate. Now does he have the juice the it? Very few do? Right? Like, that's like eight on the planet. I also believe, and I don't have this sourced. Um, I did see two different Packers at the Super Bowl. I'm not ready to go public with what one of them said yet. I may soon, so I'll hold off, but I'm not not ready to go there yet. But um, the Packers were an irrelevant franchise for most of the seventies and eighties, and I do feel like there's there's almost a fear

in the building to be irrelevant. I I sense that. But I'm on the outside. You tell me you used to live there. You still cover them? This this feeling of oh, and I argue tie the NFC, even the two loaded rosters. Philadelphia has got so many free agents. Niners don't have the quarterback. Probably in September, this is the time to rip it off. This is this is not the AFC with five or six seven generational quarterback towns. Do you think that fear is just holding them from

ripping the band aid off? I think it absolutely has been with held Mark Murphy, Matt Lafloor, Brian Goodikins, everybody back from just if moving on. And We've talked about this for two years. I thought they should have done it. You know that that first summer when Aaron is kind of dragging the team out to the public square and you know, dispatching his legion of surrogates and allies to flaw green Bay. I mean that for four or five months, all you heard is how could Green Bay let it

get to this point? But they begged, they pleaded. Your Matt Lafloor at the podium is just every possible way begging Aaron Rodgers to come back. They have that meeting, they have some backdoor promises. They give him a seat at the table, They trade for a washed up Randall Cobb. You know, they do all these things, give him what he wants. Because of that fear. I think they're terrified of life on the other side of Aaron Rodgers. And you do see a lot of teams that live in

that purgatory. But I'd argue, I mean, look at the New York Giants hanging on to Eli Manning and maybe a year too long, the Pittsburgh Steelers hanging on to Ben Roethlisberger year too long. That's the bigger mistake is it's just tricking yourself into thinking that this guy might pull off a Tom Brady. There's one Tom Brady. There's one quarterback who can go to forty five doing what he did, and we saw it last year with Aaron Rodgers,

the inevitable physical decline. His legs really aren't there, his arm is average to maybe above average. He wasn't really willing to work with those young receivers until it was too little, too late. Hey look when Patrick Mahomes has bringing guys down to Fort Worth, what was Aaron Rodgers doing. I don't know. I was good taking trips and hey, we can mock OTAs all you want. I talked to one player who said it would have been really nice to have Aaron Rodgers and OTA's working on stuff, because

they got it. They turned a corner, but by then they were what three four games below five hundred. To answer your question, I'm shocked that it's taken this long, but I think that the court of public opinion has kind of changed. I think fans by and large are getting a little tired of Aaron Rodgers act and the drama and you know him saying, oh, I didn't know that this Darkness Retreat was really going to take off

like it did. Get out of here. I think the fans are smart enough to kind of read through it, and they saw it most importantly, they saw what Jordan Love could be, just like they saw what Aaron Rodgers could be in that Dallas game in two thousand and seven. So the fact that it's kind of turned, you know, remember it's community owned, the fans owned the team. It's

a little different with the Packers. The fact that that's kind of changed, I think it is going to kind of maybe get Murphy and Goudakinsina La Floor to a spot where they finally once and for all trade Aaron Rodgers. Maybe my egos too big, but I feel like words matter. And when Aaron said I'm going to go on a retreat, a darkness retreat, which is fine, meditations, fine, that will get me closer to a decision, that's kind of effing with people. That would be like telling my wife, listen,

I'm either way in the marriage. I'm gonna go on a four day Vegas trip with the boys. That'll get me closer to a decision. She would say, bullshit, I want an answer when you get back. Like, we know Aaron's petty, we know he cares, he's thin skinned. That kind of feels like to me, Tye, he's kind of hafen with him. It really does. You would never tell

somebody you were in business with. Hey, listen, I'm gonna Mark Murphy came out publicly and said sooner the better, And You're like, yeah, I'm gonna go hide for four days. It'll get me closer. Like, to me, that's you've moved into poking in the ribs. That's what it feels like to me. It would align with previous action. I mean that this is what he's done for a few years now.

So yeah, we have to read between the lines because he's kind of speaking in code and beating around the bush and nobody really knows and he's going on this darkness retreat. I had the same reaction as you. It feels like he's kind of messing with the team at this point, delaying it when you know, there's that scene in Seinfeld where George Costanza is telling you know that the girlfriend I invented the it's not you, it's me.

That the team and Rogers are kind of going back and forth in this like, well, I don't I don't really want to trade you, but I want to trade you. I don't want to be here, but I kind of want to be here. Somebody's got to step up and be like enoughs enough the Packers. They have that power. They could go on the offensive here hell and do something talk to teams while he's on this darkness retreat.

They haven't done it to this point. They're trying to be delicate that they know he's a future Hall of Famer. He's been the face of the franchise. I get all of that, but at some point the lines were going to cross. Right. This isn't the first time that Aaron Rodgers has done some things that are have ruffled feathers and you know, made management think a certain way, coaches think a certain way. But he's been winning MVPs, he's been taken to the conference championship game. It's always been

worth it. Now that ability isn't there, that talent isn't there, at some point, you don't tolerate it, right, I mean you tolerate it because he's so damn good and he's been good for so long. I think those lines have crossed now, and that management, if you know, if you read what Murphy has said with the team has said, with the kind of leaked to the media, it seems like they're ready to move on. And I say that

gingerly because you never really know. But I think that maybe even the Packers are a little tired of this act and they are in a spot too, once and for all move on to a different quarterback. He's not as mobile as he was three years ago. He's also not quite as committed in the offseason. Has anybody inside the organization ever hinted or acknowledged to you that they do see a decline in his overall ability now turning thirty nine soon. No, it's hard to get people to

that spot, you know, even even for background. I think it's it's been hinted that. And when they talk about Jordan Love and how excited they are about Jordan Love, how the ball just spins off his hand, how he's so athletic and fluid and as a command of the offense, because let's face it, teammates people in the organization. They're they're scared to say a negative word about Aaron Rodgers because they don't want to be cast off to the cornfield.

I mean, if you're honest enough to say what you really think, hell to just relive your experiences literally, just say what happened in a game against the San Francisco forty nine ers like a person you know very well. And Greg Jennings, he might just call you, call your names, call you this, call you that, and next thing you know, you've got Packer fans at your neck for the next five to ten years. So players, they tread very lightly.

And that's apartment I do think though, And how excited they are about Jordan Love that kind of tells you everything you need to know. You're working on a Rogers Jordan Love story. What is the angle on it? I think that the angle what kind of got me going on. This was a conversation with with Charles Woodson at the Super Bowl actually, and and that point that he made. Look,

we knew Aaron Rodgers was ready. We saw it. And I can remember being an intern out there at the time, a college intern cover in that summer, thinking are they nuts? Brett Farve just took you to an MC championship game, you were thirteen and three. He's on the cover of SI. He was unbelievable. But they knew, they knew, they had conviction. They knew that Aaron Rodgers was ready, that he had the talent, that they could make this bold decision. And

you know, Charles Woodson didn't know. He's not there every day, but they just kind of got the wheels turning on. All right, Well, I should probably reach out to the people who do know everybody for you know, the practice squad to the starters. Is this a quarterback in Jordan Love who's ready to be the starter for Green Bay? And he was fascinating. I actually talked to his personal quarterbacks coach, Steve Calhoun, who has worked with some of

the best quarterbacks ever. They do some wild drills this passtop season. He got Jordan to read the field with both of the eyeballs. He convinced me he can one eyeball looking wonder and I'm kind of looking in the other to see the whole field. And there's a lot of the stuff that he talked about last summer came to fruition when we saw him in the exhibition games, when we saw him against Philadelphia. David Yost is his coach back in college. A ton of insights. So I'm sold, right.

I thought that two years ago would have been smart to just take your unlimited picks and prospects and move on from Aaron Rodgers just because of everything he was doing. But now that Jordan Love is in a place three years in. Look, he needs game action. Look at all the ups and downs Colin that Tua Burrow, Herbert Jalen Hurts, all the other quarterbacks in his own draft have been through. He hasn't gotten those ups and downs. So that's what he needs. I mean, he just needs to get into

the live game and learn on the fly now. Because he's done enough of the other stuff. He's ready to go. And I'll tell you this talking to people who know Jordan Love well, he wants to start, Like I think it's getting to the point of frustration. Whether it's in Green Bay or somewhere else, he wants to start in twenty twenty three. So you live in upstate New York, right, so you you cover the Bills. I think two things are happening with the Bills. One, the Chiefs are relentlessly

getting better. They're drafting better. They're rebuilding the offense receivers. They pay all of their receivers combined twenty million dollars Tyreek Hills making you know that and more. Just with the Miami Dolphins, they rebuild their old line an overnight. The Bills four or five years with McDermott still can't get the old line right, So that's part of it.

And they're losing, right, So they're losing big games. But I really thought, and you have, you've been writing about this, the Skylar Thompson game in the two A game, and they both came to Buffalo, and they both ended the third quarter. In the fourth, you had a real game on your hands. Warm Weather, Miami, cold Weather, Buffalow Skylar Thompson game was bizarrely competitive in the second half. And I felt like in both games, Mike McDaniel worked Sean McDermott.

He was more clever, more of an identity. I still don't think the Bills have an offensive identity. I think they just called plays how They're winning a lot of games. But how much heat is on McDermott. I think the fear is that Sean McDermott is dy Schotenheimer, Marvin Lewis you know a coach who is a good defensive mind. Yep, Chuck Nahawks. There's a good one, right, go right down the list where you know John Fox not a bad coach, right, He turned the defense around a big picture that that

building needed to be fumigated. I mean, it got really bad, really fast with Rex Ryan, and so they did need a pendulum swing to somebody who was more of a disciplinarian, who wasn't wasn't gonna put up with, you know, certain types of players, certain type of personalities. So that that worked.

They ended the drought, They build a winner, but at some point the franchise identity needed to change from Sean McDermott disciplinarian defense ball control to holy hell, we have Josh Allen, this transcendent talent that's six five, two forty seven, leaps over your linebackers and is something we've never seen at the position. And they're still kind of operating in that old mindset. Look at this, Look at every single playoff game that they've lost. I mean, the same stuff

repeats itself over and over and over again. The AFC Championship game, the chip shot field goals. I mean, you kick a field goal from whatever it was, the one or the two before halftime to cut itto twenty one to twelve against the Chiefs, only to get waxed in the second half thirteen seconds the end of that game. I was told didn't want the squib, he wanted the touchback. Whoops, and then you have your dbs lined up in another

zip code. It's it's varied not to lose. It's it's not aggressive, it's it's not a tenacious we're gonna win this game mentality. And then you saw it again against the Cincinnati Bengals. They're gonna lose that game ten out of ten times they didn't calm ready to play. I just talked to a player today who said we were not ready, like we had no energy, we were lethargic. But Sean McDermott again, fourth down, end of the first half, a chance to get a two for one. You're in

Cincinnati's territory. Your defense can't stop anybody, but you have a chance on fourth down to go for it, score touchdown, to get the ball at the start of the third quarter, redctate the terms of this game into a shootout, and they punted and Joe Burrow almost Scott the midfield core rage. And then in the fourth quarter, fourth and two deep in your own end, you punt. I get it. The game ends right there if you don't get it. But you're not gonna get two stops in the fourth quarter.

That isn't gonna happen. You haven't stopped the nosebleed all games, so I don't know. I mean, for if the Bills are ever going to get over this championship hump, Sean McDermott has to change the way he coaches in the playoffs. I'm worried it's not going to happen. I think that they left. They let the better coach in Brian Dable leave the building. I think Brian Dable will win Super Bowls, and Sean McDermott I have a hard time seeing him

win one with the way he operates. Yeah, if you look at offensive coaches in the NFL, it is remarkable how quickly they can patch up an offensive line. At the beginning of this year, the Niners line wasn't great outside of Trent Williams. By the end of the year

is really good. If you watch how Andy Reid literally replaced his in one year, drafted, developed and replaced Trey Smith, creed Humphrey, and then he went and paid for Joe Tuney, Orlando Brown, Mike Tomlin, and Sean McDermott are on five years unable to fix the old line and develop a run game. Andy Reid rebuilds the old line, the receiving corps, and finds Isaiah Piceco in the seventh round overnight. And I don't think, listen, I don't think Sean Peyton leaves

the Saints. They're nine and eight, and if the Niners don't beat the Rams in the overtime in the playoffs, remember that, then Sean Payton gets Andy Dalton, Jamis Winston, Trevor Sime into the playoffs, he leaves, They're unwatchable. I think we have a cultural change. Even the defensive coaches, I like Tomlin MC they have no sensibility for it.

They can't Ron Rivera can't pivot. Fourth place defensive coach, Bears, fourth place defensive coach, Jets, fourth place defensive coach, Washington, fourth place, Houston defensive coach, fourth place, Like at some point tie. This is not complicated. And if you ever really got offensive coordinator, he's gonna leave to become a head coach. That's because nobody's I mean, even this year the Colts go with an offensive coach. I mean, all the guys get gobbled up. Looking to get more out

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Y f for six seven three six nine New York, Tennessee Redline one hundred eight eight nine ten see visits one eight hundred gamble dot in West Virginia. One more story. Um, you know I said this today, if if you and your wife started discussing divorce, it's probably going to happen. The fact that people in Chicago now and according to multiple sources around the NFL, there's talk about moving off justin fields, Well, it tells you it's not a slam dunk.

And I've always believed you can spot awful and great very quickly. You know in one half that justin Herbert's first start, he's it. First year, Joe Burrow before he's hurt through for over four hundred yards in one game, three hundred and three games, m Lamar Jackson first full year starting MVP, Mahomes first year starting full starting MVP. I think it was first year for Mahomes. Josh Allen middle of second year, a lot of wow, you can spot awful, Zach Wilson, EJ. Emmanuel early, you can spot

great early, and I think Justin Fields is neither. I think he's going to be somewhere between the twelfth best quarterback and the twenty second. Certainly good enough to start, but there's accuracy issues here. Also, the old line ranks fourteenth, Daniel jones O line ranks thirtieth. Daniel Jones has no tight end as good as Cole Commet. Darnell Mooney and Chase Claypool would both start for the New York Giants.

So the old line is better, the tight ends better, the receivers are as good, and though they don't have a se Quon Barkley, the Bears have two very serviceable backs. I think there's real consideration to move him. Do you think if I said to you one, no way, ten? Absolutely, where do you think the discussion meter is at? In Chicago?

They didn't draft him, This GM didn't draft him. I was just gonna say that right as history tells us if a head coach and a GM or charge and they didn't draft this quarterback, if it's not their guy, you're out there ice like you're you're looking for your guy, and they would They're absolutely going to do their due diligence on all of these quarterbacks, right C J. Strout included Bryce young Levis. I mean, they'd be they'd be stupid not to to do everything they can to see

any of these guys is a franchise quarterback. I tend to think though, that the Bears are looking at their roster and they're seeing holes everywhere. It was a week offense, it was a weak defense. They need everything that they can play their hand in a way to really sell the fact that they that they want a quarterback, whether they do or they don't, and trade down because you've got three or four teams in the top ten that need a quarterback and everybody knows they need a quarterback

that you can have. You can get them basically fighting each other to the death for that first overall pick and get a bounty to rebuild your team. That just seems really enticing to me. If I'm Ryan Poles to know that, Okay, do we know if Justin Fields, a guy we don't know. As you just said, you can go either direction. You can look at him as he's a thousand yard rusher, he's athletic, he had a big armed Ohio State. Maybe we just have to put the weapons around him and he can make that Jalen Hurts

kind of kind of ascension here in year three. Or maybe the accuracy is something he's never going to learn, but you at least give him a shot for a year, because I think that ability to sell the fact that you want a quarterback could lead to a ton of picks because somebody's gonna fall in love with Bryce Young out of that group, so somebody's gonna really view him as the savior, and that could let you three or

four starters for all we know. Yeah, I mean, I think Houston, because they're at two and has holes to fill, will stay there and draft a quarterback. I could see the Colts, who I think draft four or five. Maybe it's five. I could see them saying, listen, our scouts think Bryce Young special will give you our first round pick, will take yours. I don't think you'd have to give up a bounty. You'd probably have to give up a

couple of seconds. I don't know what it would be, but if I'm only moving up four spots, I think Bryce Young's the most talented. I think Richardson from Florida is the most tantalizing. I think Will Levis feels like there's a ceiling, but I like his talent and I'm not sold on CJ. Stroud. I think he's as good as the team he inherits. I do think Bryce Young has special qualities. I think his ability to see the field is better than justin field right now. I think

he sees the field. I saw him playing high school. I watched ten fifteen games in college. I think Bryce Young's sort of accuracy, awareness and ability to see the entire field. I think it's really unique. He's just tiny, so I can see. I don't think Houston would move up because I don't I could see the Colts on

draft Day making a move. I really could. They're not going to play their hand early, but I could see on draft day Chicago getting because by the way, if Chicago moves down to the fourth or fifth pick, they can still get to rush end, which they need. And as we know with these gms, it's always an exercise of survival. So I get it. Like if you draft a quarterback, if you're Ryan Poles the Chicago Bears, you're resetting the rookie contract, right, You have a quarterback on

a rookie deal. Every team wants that. But you're on the clock as at GM. Now your fate is tied to this guy. Usually, where if you go go with Justin Fields for another year, maybe trade down, you get all kinds of picks. You keep it. If it doesn't work out, if he falls flat on his face, then you got a shot the next year. You kind of buy yourself a little bit more time to say, well, that wasn't our guy, but we're still going to find our guy, and we have all this other stuff that's

going really really well. Look at Joe Douglas with the New York Jets. They've done a lot of other stuff well around on the quarterback position, but they haven't out quarterback. But they're still there. So I think that he's good enough to where you can talk yourself into him being the guy and him having a future. I'd be surprised if the Bears took a quarterback. I think they're going to entertain offers and if there's if they had the stampath,

they take somebody else. Yeah. Bryce Young's interesting. He's smaller. He's played in California and the South, so he's never played in cold, windy weather. And there's always been a feeling that in these Pittsburgh's, Baltimore, Chicago's now Minnesota obviously plays indoors, but Farvan Rodgers both had strong arms. There's always been a feeling up north. Flacco had a big arm. Burrows certainly got a good enough arm that you you know,

it never made sense it. Bryce Young may not make physical sense now in indian a dome or Houston, he does. You know, I wouldn't draft. They're just certain guys that are like Teddy Bridgewater would never be a guy I draft a Northern team. Put him in New Orleans, put him in Miami. That sounds crazy. But certain guys don't have the big arm Justin Fields does. But even Justin Fields remarked this week I saw a quote He's like, I hope we get a dome in Chicago. I mean,

he's a Georgia kid. He's like, I would love to play a dome. Now. He played at Ohio State, obviously, but the NFL season's much longer. You know, you play in Chicago, those last four games at home. It's it's wendy, it's rough. You're right on, You're not far from the lake. You know. I've been around that stadium. I've jogged around it. I've been around it ten times. So Bryce Young is not the physical athlete. I don't think he has quite

the arm strength of Justin Field. So for that reason, I could see them saying we're gonna give it one more year. All right. Tied down his newsletter sign up golongtd dot com. We love having him on the show. Good stuff a story coming out in Aaron Rodgers and Jordan love the Buffalo stuff is great. We'll talk to anyday, anytime. Column. Thanks so much for having man the volume. Make sure

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