Colin Cowherd Podcast - Rodgers Demands + ‘Sharp or Square’ NFL Divisional Round

Friday morning podcast, the callin Coward Podcast. That would be me, your affable host. So Chad Millman off of winning week. I was three and two in the Blazing five on FS one and Fox Sports Radio. So back to back winning weeks, fifty five and a half percent for the year. So we're going to have my Divisional Round four playoff

picks coming up. So I thought this was interesting. In my career, I've tried to never back management into a corner, but there have been as I have gained popularity, concessions companies have been willing to make if I want certain time off or a certain number of people on a staff, and the more popular. I've become. Generally, in any business, the more leverage you have, and you know, companies will give me certain things. I don't ask for a ton.

I'm not real high maintenance on this stuff. And it's understood in a lot of entertainment businesses. And let's be honest, I'm not analogous to Tom Cruise, but when Top Gun makes a billion four, there's concessions made Lebron James, Tom Brady. They're concessions made. But in order to get those, in any industry, you've got to deliver on the other end. This is what's interesting. So Aaron Rodgers wants concessions by

the Green Bay Packers. He listed five offensive players. Only one is elite that he wants the Packers to bring back if he'll return. Alanzar, Randall Cobb, Mercedes Lewis, Robert Tonne in the tight end are not dynamic players. They're unrestricted free agents, so the Packers will have to pay more than their worth to retain them. So the takeaways, well, you get Aaron Rodgers. So I went back with my staff and I said, what is the payoff for Aaron.

Let's go to Aaron Rodgers last ten. What we would call big games, and we tried to as a staff be very fair. He had five this year, the play in game of the Lions Christmas Day at Miami, that Philadelphia game that was a standalone game, Cowboy game at Lambeau, and I think it was a Sunday night game against the Buffalo Bills. Those were the five big games. Now, he also lost to the Vikings in the opener. You could say the season opener is a big game, but I don't really count that is a big game. That

would benefit my argument, but I didn't do that. So in those games he had two wins and three losses. Then we went the previous year and we counted the big games as the Niner game that he won during the regular season and played very well, the Division round Niners game he lost, and there was a Rams game Week twelve that was build as the big game on

TV for Fox that he eventually won. We went to the previous year and the two games that felt big were the NFC Championship and that game against Brady down in Tampa was the first time they'd met Brady as a Buck, And so we went and we build those as the ten biggest games. Eight regular season two playoff games, and the playing game for Detroit we think classifies. So Aaron wants all sorts of concessions. He wants five, four of which are mediocre offensive players to return. So what

am I getting for that? Tom Cruise concessions? Top gun makes one point four billion lebron for years. Concessions you end up in the finals. Miami made a lot of concessions, got to the finals four straight years. So Aaron wants these concessions. Let's go to his last three years what we classify as the ten big games, and here's what you get. He's four and six, sixteen touchdowns, seven picks, averages two hundred thirty yards. Those are Matt Ryan numbers.

Those aren't close to Mahomes, Alan Burrow, Herbert. They're not close. They're not close to the last five good games for Trevor Lawrence. Aaron wants these concessions. He's not delivering championship level football. One of the reasons he's not committed in the off season. Other reasons he's not willing to play with new teammates work out with them in the off season. But we thought this was incredibly fair. We went back as a staff and picked the ten big games. I'm

talking not one o'clock windows. Mostly we're talking against Brady Niners, playoffs, Christmas Miami, by the way, trail big in that until TWA started throwing the picks two who had a concussion late in the first half. So if you're gonna ask for concessions, you gotta deliver ratings, box office finals appearances. Aaron no longer is four and six, last ten games sixteen t seven picks, two hund thirty yards a game. That's not close to the top six quarterbacks in this league.

So Jim Harbaugh has been interviewed now on multiple occasions by the nc double A. They're saying there are infractions they want to investigate. They call them incidents. So Harbaugh says he doesn't recall the incident and is refusing to acknowledge to investigators that he lied. The story is there have been multiple meetings with the ncble A. An admission that he lied would likely be a multiple game suspension.

And this is really my problem with the NBA. What the NCAA should be in the business of is finding programs that are habitually deceitful, that are consistently deceptive. Harbaugh according to the story bought a player a burger in twenty twenty one, Now time out. The IRS should be auditing people like Enron or Well's far go where there's a pattern of deception, not a plumber who wrote off a trip to Vegas for a plumbing convention and probably eight three meals with buddies, and not people in the

plumbing industry. Come on, NCLEA, Jim Harbaugh doesn't cheat. My rule on this stuff is on an annual basis. Because of the depth of the ncuble A rule book. It's confounding and confusing. The coaches should get annual mulligans. You buy a kid a sandwich, you give them a ride to the airport. That's not what the ncble A is in the business of them like the irs, they're in the business of Hugh Freeze at ole miss buying players. Really, you think Jim Harbaugh is your biggest issue? Come on, now,

that's what you're concerned about. A hamburger in an arbor. New rule. Every coach gets an annual mulligan. You stop off at subway kids hungry, he's on the way to the airport. To the day before the Thanksgiving weekend starts come on NCAA. Anytime you have one element in a business that becomes overwhelmingly crucial to the success of that business, that business gets predictable. I'll give you an example. Cable television political cable television shows Fox, MSNBC. The thing that

gets ratings on both networks consistently is outrage. So it's fairly predictable that on both networks all top shows are selling some level of outrage. It's predictable because it delivers ratings. The truth doesn't, all strong opinions don't. Outrage sells on cable television, and so it usually leads the most popular

shows now many of the times on both networks. It's not particularly outrageous to me, but if a host feels or can sell or promote outrage, it works nightly, weekly, monthly, annually. Some hosts clearly better than others. So in the NFL as the league, due to safety precautions, has made the quarterback basically hit free. Has opened up the field for receivers.

Quarterbacks tight ends to not get hit. Your skill players feel much more comfortable going over the middle, going down field, and it's become a very much an offensive leaning league. We've talked about this. Of the eight teams left, seven have offensive coaches and one Sean McDermott, just has Superman at quarterback. They would not be a playoff team, certainly not a winning playoff team if they had an average quarterback.

By the way, the Giants have an average quarterback. So do we believe the Niners offensive coaches they win playoff games. So this year, in my NFL predictions, I did something I'd never done before. I got three divisions one through four correct. In the AFC East, I had the Bills, the Dolphins, the Patriots, and the Jets in order. In the NFC, I had the NFC East in perfect order Philly, Dallas, Giants, Washington, and the NFC North in perfect order Minnesota, Green Bay, Detroit, Chicago.

There's an argument to be made that I also got a fourth half the league right in the NFC South because I had Tampa winning and then three non playoff teams, but since they all tied, there's no real order to that, but three and a half perfectly. Why it's the most I've ever done. Why because the league's getting more predictable, and I think what you're going to see the best quarterback one is all that's left in every AFC division.

Alan Mahomes, Burrow, and Trevor Lawrence. I think the AFC for the next six to eight years, barring a coach being fired or retiring. Andy Reid, I'm told may retire within the next couple of years, I'm just gonna I think you're going to see an AFC that is incredibly predictable Mahomes, Alan Burrow, Trevor Lawrence, Rinse and repeat. Now, if Andy Reid retires, the higher, the wrong coach, different ballgame. But that doesn't mean on a week to week, game

to game basis, it's easier to predict the winners. But as the league has become so overwhelmingly quarterback centric, the AFC is now a layup. I can tell you right now, I like all four of those quarterbacks next year in the AFC. NFC is different. You've got overachievers at quarterback. So the quality of the defense, the quality of the weapons, the quality of the coaching matters much more in the NFC. I mean, Brian Dable is taking a really mid level offense.

They do have a good running back and left tackle. Receiving cores is below average, O lines, bottom quarter of the league. But I think you know, I looked at my predictions this year on divisions outside of the Rams falling apart on the offensive line, did not predict that, and the Russell Wilson disaster. I totally whipped on that. Football is getting easier to predict annually. In fact, the team I predicted would be the most improved we got

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about what a team is. Tampa was eight nine sort of what they are and it was unveiled. So this week we've got four games, and I feel there's always whenever you go into these big games, I try to simplify everything. What are these teams at this point and what are they not? So one of my I don't like big favorites. You know this chat, but Kansas City minus eight and a half is my play. Andy Reidoff

a bye is the greatest NFL coach ever. They met in the first matchup, and as Greg Kosell pointed out to me, there are some Jacksonville personnel disadvantages on defense here they probably won't be able to overcome. They're still in a rebuild. I argue they're a year ahead of schedule. Jacksonville's off their biggest franchise win in years. This is still a quarterback with less than you know, forty starts. This is a lot that ask for the Jags. I like the Chiefs by ten or more sharper square. So

it's square, but not like egregiously square. It's square because there is there is so much data for a trends, so much analysis broadly in this situation for number one seeds underperforming against the market, and for the Chiefs specifically underperforming against the market when they are really big favorites. So that's why what's really interesting, and we're going to

get through this. With all the games today, there are very specific play the trends sides and play the matchup sides, and so with this one, the wise guys are playing the trends. Agreed, Jackonsville's past defense is not very good, but the Chiefs are not nearly as explosive as they were with Tyreek Hill. They tend to play ball control when they get a lead, and ball control for the

Chiefs doesn't mean they're just running it fifty times. It means shorter passes, it means a little bit more conservative on the play calling, not the sort of sling it like Patrick Mahomes normally does. So I think that you're starting to see the wise guys really like the Jaguars. Here.

A couple other trends that you should think about is that in the past twenty years, number one seeds are thirteen twenty five and one against the spread in this round, and when they're favored by less than ten points, they're eight twenty two and one. So that hits the button for two number one seeds this weekend. All right, Hey, listen, Miami kept it close with Buffalo with Skyler Thompson, so that is that was a little bit of a last two times Miami played them. I thought Mike McDaniel out

Coach McDermott. Get to that in a second. So Giants plus seven and a half at Philly is the side for me. I worry about Jalen Hurts one hundred percent health. I worry of some of its inactivity. I worry about a team that's become increasingly injured and turnover prone in the last two months of the season. The Giants have a way they have to play, but with Daniel Jones now running the football more, they're a little better third down team. They can play keep away a little better.

Now that said, Minnesota's awful and Daniel jones two best games were against the Vikings, so let's slow down. I like Philly to win, but in a division rivalry game, Philadelphia was not playing great at the end of the year. I think the buye does them no favors here. I'm going to take the seven and a half sharper square colin. I normally say when I don't have a consensus that

it is completely split. What I will say this time is that there has been really smart money at big big wagers on the Eagles and really really smart money, big big wagers on the Giants. And this is where covering sports betting gets the most fascinating. Games like these. We just talked about trends versus matchups. We talked about public often we talk about being on the public side, fading the public at being against the public. Right now, the Giants are a very very public team. They did

exactly what you just said against the Eagles. They had ten or eleven wins in one score games. They were a covering machine. The public is down on the Eagles right now. They are not even the favorite to win the Super Bowl from the NFC, that is the brock Purty led Niners. So what you're doing if you like the Eagles, you're actually fading the public right now because the Giants are a public dog. And where this gets

really really interesting, really interesting. You are seeing amounts of money and massive amounts of tickets coming in on the Giants, and this line has been sitting at seven and a half since Monday, so we're now with Thursday. You get a massive amount of money on one side, and bookmakers usually move the line. They haven't moved the line because they're also getting significant wise guy play on the Eagles.

I will tell you, as we often talk about the wise guy calls that we get for the favorite podcast, Call of Sharp Calls, completely split on this, but we do go ahead and decide to make taking the Eagles at seven and a half are big balls better the week because we like the matchup for the Eagles on the field better. We think they're a better team. Jalen Hurts Jordan Davis on the field. At the same time,

have not lost once this year. If we did not have the public situation, if the Eagles hadn't been fading at the end of the year, when Jalen Hurts was hurt, it'd probably be ten point favorites. It's a tough one, though, Colin the world is divided. This is splitting the world. This and the Death Sailing are splitting the world in two Okay, this one. I have no idea. I'm gonna take the Bengals up to five and a half foun duel odds if they I've said this today on the show,

and I'll get pushedback, I'm sure on social media. If the old line was healthy for Cincinnati, I think they'd blow out Buffalo. I think they're a significantly better situational team. I think they're more balanced offensively. They're not actually as beholden to Joe Burrow as the Bill's offense is now to Josh Allen. Greg ko Sell said it today, take out Allen and Stefon Diggs. Buffalo's offense personnel is just not that talented, and you see it on film. Buffalo

is mistake prone. But they played very poorly against Miami. Sean Payton told me the best weeks to be a coach when you'll win and play like shit because you can ride those players all week. I think Buffalo is gonna play a lot better. Bengals are missing three offensive linemen. The five and a half is a lot to give Burrow, who's an excellent road quarterback. So I probably play Cincinnati with no conviction at all. I think Buffalo rebounds and

plays well. I'll take the Bengals and the point Sharper square. So flip around everything you just said and don't be a square and take the Bills. Because if to say that if the Bengals were not missing three offensive linemen would be like saying if I had scored a hundred points in a game in Hershey, Pennsylvania, I'd be an

NBA legend. That's how sort of fantastical that kind of if then statement is okay, they don't have the three linemen, and we saw what happened to the Bengals when they were missing the Ravens team that they not even downfield. Joe Burrow can't even drop back like this second he drops back, someone is in his lap, and the Ravens were doing that with a lot of heavy, heavy blitzing and pass rushing. The Bills have a very deep defensive line.

They're a top ten pressure rate defensive line. Without blitzing, and you make the points about playing badly, right. So let's look at two teams that did not play well in the opening round of the playoffs that were playing against backup quarterbacks. Buffalo Bills played Skylar Thompson. They played terrible, They had bad, really bad breaks. They still kind of won that game handily, right, The score was closer than

it appeared in the fourth quarter. The Bengals played a backup quarterback, They gained two hundred and thirty four yards on offense, and they won the game on a lucky ninety eight yard fumble recovery by a defensive linement, not because their offense did anything special. In Joe Burrow did anything special. So this game opened at six and a half, It got bet down to three and a half, It hit three and a half, and the wise guy started pummeling it. Three and a half, four, four and a half, five,

five and a half. I would tell anybody bet the Bills at five and a half. If he gets to six, you walk away. Maybe you take a piece of the Bengals. But when you get from say four and a half to five and a half, you're kind of in these dead numbers, right, the games really don't land. It's either going to land on six or it might land on four. So I say you take you take the five and a half with the Bills. I hate all my picks. I hope I convinced you of that. I really do

this one. So you can't. The offensive line thing, you cannot. You cannot discount that it's massive well, and also a huge component of burrows greatness is the sneaky deep ball. He's deadly accurate fifteen yards in yet he's got a tony romol he loved at rip, sometimes in a double coverage and he's really successful. You just took that out.

They become much easier to defend. Their a nibble team because when you're missing three offensive lineman, the deep, the vertical passes out, so they become a very safe offense. I don't think you can go to Buffalo, Okay. So from time to time I admit this. I actually admitted a lot is that my wife's an artist and so she sees things I don't. And sometimes I'll see a

number and go, well, somebody knows something I don't. I guess the numbers before they come out, and if there's a big variance, and it's about once a week or once every other week. I'm like, wow, that's a big variance. Vegas knows something I don't know. So the Cowboys have a forty eight hour minimum preparation deficit. They didn't get home until three in the morning on Tuesday. The Niners game was over Saturday afternoon. Also short week, facing now

the most physical team in the league. It's not like it's a finesse team. Like I talked to Gerald McCoy about this and he said, forget the prep time. Is that body going to be ready for San Francisco for three hours? They are just it is sumo wrestling. It is just contact and bounding. And my guests on the number was five and a half and it came in at three and a half. I thought I thought at five and a half it was safe at home. Two day prep advantage, smartest offensive coach in a game in

which Seattle is not physical. They've tossed him around. So it tells me the game's going to be closer. Vegas as smarter than I am, so I'd take the Cowboys and the points. And I hate it. Sharper square you are. This is the sharpest you've ever said as a as a sports analyst talking about betting. You've said many many other sharp things in the context of your life, but in this particular context, this is the sharpest thing you've

ever said. It's there, it's fishy, man. The game actually opened at four and a half, got bet down to four, got bet down to three and a half. Somebody took a little bit of money on the Niners at three and a half. But this is a pros Joe's game, like majority of the tickets on the Niners, majority on the money on the Cowboys right now. And there's a really interesting narrative taking place in the betting world. And this is why I love covering the betting world because

and why I always have. There is a conversation, a shadow conversation, happening amongst millions and millions of betters that influences billions of dollars in markets right But it's an entirely different narrative than what is happening in sort of the general sports debate space when people are analyzing these games. The narrative right now is that if you look back, who have the Niners played and when they have played those teams, has their defense been not as good as

we thought. And so Brock Purdy's been winning all of these games against quarterbacks who a lot of quarterbacks might be able to beat if they have Kyle Shanahan as their play caller and their scheme designer. And meanwhile, the defense terrible first half against Geno Smith, terrible second half against the Raiders. You're starting to see a lot of cracks. That is a narrative that has taken place in the

betting community right now with the Niners defense. And so I have been shocked to hear about the Cowboy love this week, because I mean especially me, I was so anti Cowboys last week, sadly, but this week the wise guys are on the Cowboys. A stunner for me. I hate all my picks. I've never said that. I hate everything every week at this time of year, Colin, there's nothing to love. You're grinding it out, You're hanging on by fingernails, just hoping, dear God, can we get to

the Super Bowl. I mean, I thought the Chiefs, I just could be Chiefs was so sharp. I was going to call my pick cheddar it was so good, and now I wouldn't better knuckle on that thing. So what's interesting about that is I would say of the of the sharp plays, that's the one that I think people are most skeptical about. What is starting to get some plays the under in that game Andy Reid at Arrowhead in his career, the unders are about fifty eight percent.

When he is a seven point favorite or more, that climbs to seven percent. So the unders at fifty three could go down to fifty two and a half. So there's a lot of conversation about that. But that kind of game script, if it's an under plays to the strength of Jacksonville, let's try keeping it close. I mean, it's hard to give up eight and a half at the score. If they total up at fifty two, that's a lot of points. Yeah, it's a lot of points. It's a lot of points. Betting is hard. I hit.

Everybody can do it. Listen to this Millman. Fifty five percent in the year, so my blazing five is done. So now I only have four games, so yep, so fifty five percent on the year, fifty five and a half percent. Always I have always said fifty six is my goal, fifty six, fifty six and a half because you could be a pro better at fifty six, I am not, but I feel good. Last year was my worst year. It was the COVID year. I couldn't figure.

I had no rhythm all year. So I ended up last two weeks three and two fifty five and a half. I like that. Like it. If you could grind out three and two every single week, Yeah, you're professional better. That's that's the goal. Right when we did the you know Colin, when Simon Hunter and I would go through our five best picks every week on the Favorite podcast. Our goal every week three and two, three and two, three and two, three and two, Because look at that,

you go three and two over eighteen weeks. You end the year nearly twenty games over five hundred. If you're like, who's going to walk away saying I just went twenty games over five hundred. Betting NFL, and if you're betting the same number of dollars, and dollars equates to units whatever you uni size. For you, a unit size might be a million dollars a game. For me, it's like, you know, maybe ten bucks a game, but a unit size, I'm up twenty units at the end of the year.

That's fantastic. So yeah, I always look at a hundred bucks a game because if I win it, I take I take the little girl out for a snappy tequila shot or two. Yeah, and some Mexican food. Yeah, leave a tip. That's how I look at free dinner with my beautiful redhead, my smart, beautiful, talented, redheaded wife. That's the way to go. That's totally the way to go. I want to talk about the Ravens for one second,

because you were on him. I was on them. That was a crazy game last week because it was six and a half, then seven, seven and a half, eight and a half. It was a sweat. Man. They should have won that game. Oh, because it's probably I think fans sometimes understand this, but there are There was a fourteen point play, yeah in that game, and I think about that one play, fourteen point swing on the sneak and so when we want now, usually guys complain about that when they lose. So I won that bet and

lost a fourteen point swing. Yeah, so you know it's the right side when you lose the two touchdown swing. And I felt to the very end, I'm like, I knew I was on the right side. Yes, it was funny when the Chargers led big at half. My takeaway was, this is the Chargers. They're going to get with a defensive coach squirrely in the second half. And I was sitting with a buddy and I said, I don't know who's gonna win. I think the Chargers will. I said,

you watched this thing with three minutes to go. He was a Charger fan. I said you better watch this. I said, this thing's gonna get because you know they want to get on that flight and go home. You do not want to be in a losing flight. They're gonna take no big chances. And by the way, Jacksonville is pretty good coming from behind. They really are. If they throw nine straight times with Trevor and Doug Peterson, they're not bad at that. That's kind of a comfort

level to them. Look, we talked about this in the podcast. We liked the Jags, and we liked the Jags because of the coaching mismatch, and that's what it came down to. We said, specifically, I will not bet on Brandon Staley as a favorite on the road against Doug Peterson. People will try to categorize them because they both are risk taking coaches. Doug Peterson is risks taking in a very

strategic way. Brandon Staley is okay with his offensive coordinator throwing the ball up twenty seven nothing in the second half. That's not risk taking, that's just bad decision making completely. And I will say one more thing, one more thing to back up the Cincinnati play. You know, we will do these luck rankings every week right where we're aggregating all this different data and it basically says, this is what should have happened the game, and it predicts regression

the following week. It tells you who's overvalued, who's undervalued. In a game last week, the luckiest team in the league, Cincinnati Bengals. If you played that game with the plays that and they happened as they were expected to happen, meaning there's not a fumble recovery for ninety eight yards, Baltimore is expected to win that game twenty two fourteen. And I'll tell you we're on the Bills. It's the last word. I think. Yeah, I think Bills and Cowboys.

I can live with Giants. I feel like crap Chiefs is ridiculous. Now, Like I'm going to bet the Eagles and it makes me sick to my stomach. I've bet the Cowboys, I'm sick to my stomach. I bet the Jaguars. I'm sick to my stomach. The only one I feel good about it is the bills. So you know what that means. Bills are the only ones gonna lose. I went drinking with Sean Payton this week. I had dinner too. I haven't done this in thirty years. I had two tequilas, a glass of wine, and a craft beer. Took me

forty eight hours to recover. No joke, dude, I did the same thing. I was in New York City. I went out for dinner on Tuesday night, as I met someone for a drink beforehand. One glass of wine, two big at an old school, classic Italian joint in the city, two big boulevardiers, and I went to bed. I was up at three until six. I had a massive headache until about five. The next day, I had to go to bed about nine o'clock. When I got back to Connecticut, it was it was not pretty, was it? Rows? Is

that where you went? No, we went to Don Bartos, which is kind of like it's in on seventeenth and sixth, Like you know, I don't mean sure. It's like kind of west of Flat Iron. And it was delicious. It's like one of those old school places. You're there for four hours, the food just keeps coming. Oh God, for a night, New York is so much fun. There are nights in New York like this night. You walk out of the restaurant, You've had a great night. You feel invincible.

I know. I was in New York one night and I have gone out to Delfriscos. That's on the west side of town West fifty something. Yeah, it's it's in the Fox News building, right it like it's like fifty fifty firs or something like that. Yeah. And I was staying at the London Hotel, which was down the street from it, and the lead singer from Metallica was there that night. Oh god. Yeah, So I go to Del Friscos. I come out of there and I can remember I was with a friend and I said, I understand why

New Yorkers have no idea where Utah is on a map. Ye, when you have a great night in New York and I'm looking down an alley and it's just New York. It's pre COVID. There's lights. It's gorgeous. I'm like, shit, this is there's nothing better. It will make you feel

like a million bucks. In November, Bono Bono was doing this ten city worldwide tour to promote this biography that he wrote, Autobiography, and it was a mix of the show was a mix of songs and stories from the book and like a lot of this stuff in the book explained the songs that he wrote, right. And so he's doing ten cities opening night Beacon Theater, Upper west Side, Manhattan.

I got tickets, third row, Like I'm in Bono's grill man behind me, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Bono's wife, Tom Hanks, the edge. I'm like, this is the greatest New York experience you can have. You can't have that anywhere else. With this crowd coming in and then we walk out, We're done. I go to the Dublin House. You celebrate seeing Bono at the Dublin House, which is like this old school railroad car bar on the Upper west Side that I used to go to when I first moved

to Manhattan. Nothing is changed in that bar, the same, the same Jack Daniels on the shelf from thirty years ago. And then you leave and you have a slice of pizza, and it feels like I could live forever. It's so true. I've had it's. It's I was lucky when I was at ESPN. I'd go there about ten times a year, never pay for anything. Of course, I've probably paid for

three drinks in my life in New York. It was always on the company and New York's the only thing better than New York is free New York, New York on an expense account. Oh my god. So I did a couple. I did a Joe Nameth a Van and a couple of Eli manning events. I just had to do live remotes. Good people. Michael k I'd go see him if I was there, I'd s thought by the radio station. Usually I did, you know, I had a handful of people, good people, you'd you know, I had

to go to the New York radio station. So Tim McCarthy was a sales guy. Michael Ky, so he'd see good people. Justin Craig. We can edit that out. By the way, they don't need props people, but New York, New York, big steak wine friends on a fall, early late summer, It's seriously walk out. It's like fifty seven degrees and it's like a little dusky and it's just it's perfect, the flip side, the flip side. When the apocalypse comes, I don't want to be there and that

that's what scares me. Yeah, it's a it's a city of heislos. Yeah. I mean, on a good night, you could get caught in the middle of a mob hit and you'd be like, you know, great night, brief incident. I'm good on the best nights. Nothing gets in your way. There. You go to the bar, it's great looking people, it's on the company. You have a big piece of steak.

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