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Colin Cowherd Podcast - Ramsey to Dolphins, Bears/Panthers #1 Pick Deal, Rodgers Decision Time w/ John Middlekauff

Mar 13, 202343 min
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Colin and 3 and Out podcast Host John Middlekauff discuss the latest NFL news, including the Rams dealing Jalen Ramsey to the Dolphins, if Tom Brady could end up in Miami, if Aaron Rodgers to the Jets is a lock, or if he could still return to the Packers, why the Giants paying Daniel Jones franchise QB money makes no sense, why Lamar Jackson needs to hire an agent, which team feels like the clear winner of the Panthers trading up to secure the Bears #1 pick, concerns about the top Draft QB’s, if top pass rushing prospect Jalen Carter (Georgia) is worth the risk after being charged with reckless driving in connection with a car accident death of a teammate. 

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At the volume, we're going to talk about the Bears move with the Panthers. I cannot believe the Bears not only got the picks, but DJ Moore, a wide receiver. I cannot believe that he is a really he's a number one. So the Bears now have a legitimate receiving corps and don't have to pay a lot of attention

to that with all their extra draft picks. We're going to talk about, obviously, the Lamar Jackson situation, Aaron Rodgers potentially to the Jets, the Rams giving away Jalen Ramsey, and what appears to be a cash dump right before free agency that leads me to believe the Rams are eyeing somebody in free agency. A lot of stuff going on. John middlecoff as all was full of insight. Let's go to it here with my main man, Colin Coward. Right

as free agency, let's face it. I mean, it really kind of starts at the combine when they're not supposed to t for all the deals are done, but over the next three or four days the madness is. I mean, it's already started with the couple trades that happen over the weekend. But I think it's time to buckle up here, Colin. Yeah, the Jalen Ramsey move, a third and basically a bust tied end from the Dolphins who does doesn't play much. Is that's not nearly I'm not sure why they were

so impatient. It feels like a salary dump. They're trying to clear something up to make a big move in free agency. That's it. That's what it felt like to me. Now, I don't think Jalen Ramsey's ever been a guy you build a culture around at Florida State, Jacksonville or LA. He's just really talented. But I think the guys that you build a culture around, like Aaron Donald Are Cooper cup are harder to get rid of. Talent comes and goes,

and so I think Jayalen's really talented. He's he had a very good last game with the Rams and interception. You know, I'm not sure if it was the best place for the Dolphin to spend money. They already have a corner people like, but their secondary's not very strong. They're all in, yeah, But but for the Rams, it just felt like they're starting over. You know, they've got four sevens, four or fives. They now have a second, two thirds. They don't have a first or a fourth yet,

so they got twelve draft picks. They're kind of rebuilding this puppy. Before we dive into my theory on the Dolphins and why, I think I think this might be leading to something. One thing on McVeigh is, you know, the knock on Gruden over his ten year as coaching,

was very impatient. You know, changes on you fast. Lebron has some of that, and you know he loves a guy that he starts playing with him any sours on him, and like, I don't have the theory that they're going to tank because McVeigh almost jumped off a bridge last year losing a little bit. He's not going to coach a season and suck and he's too good to ever probably get the top two or three picks, especially next year with the with the quarterbacks. But you know he

loved Matt Stafford to years ago. They traded for him, then they extend him. Now he's banged up and it feels like, oh they might trade him or that they would definitely listen to it. Well, so he was good enough to give all this money too, and a year later things get weird. I'm Sean McVeigh guy, but it does feel he's got a little grudin in him that he'll change on you fast once he thinks you're not as good as he maybe thought six months previously. So I was told a month ago and I have set

it on the air at Fox. I was told a month ago that the Rams were gonna go heavy this offseason to the offense. McVeigh would come back if there was a commitment to I'm an offensive coach. The league's pivoted to that. Give me guys. So who did they get rid of? Bobby Wagner, Jayalen, Ramsey, Floyd. They've moved off defensive guys. So they're gonna draft. They have a second two thirds. They're probably gonna go after an offensive lineman, a wide receiver. They may go out for a running back.

Mcphay's like, listen, if I'm going to come back for this thing and have to face the Niners, you gotta get me some weapons. You gotta get me some on the offensive side. I mean, of all the people in the Ramsey trade, they got like a third string tight end. You know, I thought I would have thought they would have gone to a backup edge because they don't really have an edge rusher. But you know, I listen, McVeigh

had a lot of success early. People that do off and get impatient, they haven't had the long road, the struggle like the rest of us, right, so you know, I get it. You probably see that in tech. You see it in football that you probably see it in Hollywood when somebody hits it at twenty eight, thirty two years old. Man, your standards and impatience rise. The Dolphins I think over the weekend or maybe late last week, they picked up two a fifth year option. I thought

that was nuts, you know, given his risk history. But then when they made this trade, I was like, well, I think you had mentioned last week and it's come out since you know the Brady buzz is not going to die. Well, what did they do? They get Vick Fanji, They add Jalen Ramsey. They kind of had their backup plan long term, just keep two under contract. Tom Brady

and coming to San Jose. It's just not happening, right, But Miami, he's already he's getting the taste of the life in Florida now for a couple of years, the no state income tax. I think the Dolphins buzz is about to pick up, and they're equipped. I mean now that their defense was a question mark boom at a star corner. You know, add Vic Fangio. I mean that's this team. You see that that clip of Tyreek Hill running dusting those guys in the in the six eight

meter dash. So you're the one that I think I saw a clip of you saying that the Tom Brady thing, Well, people are it's not gonna die. Yeah, I mean, okay, so Tom, it's not like you know, he's single now, so he's gonna He's not gonna broadcast at Fox. He's gonna sit around for a year, just watch football. Tom's connected, Um And I just think, you know, people say, oh, you spend more time with your family. Kids after a while don't want to hang out with mom and dad.

They want to hang out with their kids, their peers. Right. So I think Brady um hill step he work six months a year. I mean he gets six months with his family, I know. And whenever you hear you know, I'm gonna go spend time with my family. It's like, you know, guys get off days even in the season. You know you're not You're not at the facility all day. So I think if you have a popular player Tebow in Denver and they brought in Peyton Manning, you gotta

go big. Nobody's gonna question Brady fills in for Tua or Peyton Manning for Tebow, because Tua will have success with Mike McDaniels. Hell, he was leading in the Pro Bowl voting last year, right, So I don't know what's gonna happen with Tom Brady. I don't have it sourced, but I did have somebody I trust out of the building, not a Fox employee, say he may play football, So you know it was somebody who's smart, somebody I've trusted

for years. So he obviously heard it somewhere. But I said this a year ago, and I'll say it again. I thought Aaron Rodgers in Miami made sense. I really did. Again. Yeah, a big star because TWA's got his fans too, was going to have success. Nobody's complaining about Rodgers or Brady in Miami, and I think sometimes when you replace a popular I mean, let's face it, last year, up until Thanksgiving, the Dolphins were one of the better stories in the league.

Yeah they really were speaking of Not a good story last year was obviously the Aaron Rodgers and the Packers who underachieved and missed the playoffs. Feels inevitable that Vide ends up on the Jets. My overall take is one they don't really have any other options. Jimmy Garoppolo gets hurt all the time. Derek Carr signed with the Saints. Yeah, the guy they drafted number two overall. He just stinks he's just not any good. So as we're recording this,

we don't know the parameters of the trade. Clearly they already had figured out something. They even let him talk. If they don't have to give up a first round pick. I mean, I think it's one of the easiest deals they'll ever do. Yeah, I think Aaron. You know, the Jets would be better with Aaron. But if I'm Aaron Rodgers and I line everything up, what matters to me? Coach Matt Lafleur, offensive coach or Robert Solid defensive coach,

check packers, offensive line, check packers. Weapons Well, Bruce Hall's talented, but he's often injury. Aaron Jones emerging star at wide receiver, capable tight ends the power back behind Aaron Jones. It's like weapons. Probably slight lean Green Bay, familiarity, Green Bay, ease of division and conference check check green Bay, green Bay. This site. I don't know where the advantages are. I've got impulsive ownership, a coach, a defensive coach on the

hot seat. They still have to their offensive line had some injuries last year, So I don't think it's it's not the Giants, right. If the Jets have some talent, they'll get it back. It'll be healthier. But you know they're counting on a lot of young players, you know, and it's just Green Bay's got some familiar faces. I know everybody has already got a pencil. Then it's the Jets. But I could see Aaron just saying, I'm coming back for one more year and then I'm retiring. I'm going

to Green Bay. The one thing with the Jets is last year, you know, he loves his older players and it took a while for Watson to get going. It took a while, you know. Just this team is full of young offensive weapons. So is Aaron going to show up in April? Is he gonna come to OTAs? Am I paying your sixty million dollars? Can you mesh with my guys? Can you kind of be a member here and not kind of isolate yourself. That would be something I'm sure that they have, you know, reached out because

you can't make this trade. If he's just going to show up July twenty eighth, I'm gonna start training camp right, Yeah, and I just I think they'd be good. Colin though, if he is all in, I mean he won back to back MVP's. This team israel talented. You're right, the head coach major question mark. But the head coach has nothing to do with the offense, and the offense is his guy. Now can that guy coach the offense? It's

it's hard to know. You know it rocky with Nathaniel Hackett, but that is you know, a driving forces relationship with that guy. Yeah, I mean, but you're gonna have a lot of firepower in Miami Mac Jones. Nett has Bill O'Brien, best defensive coaching Bill O'Brien. Buffalo is still a pretty

stack roster outside of offensive line. So you don't get the Bears twice, you know, you don't get it's you know, I like Detroit, but Detroit didn't make the playoffs either, so you know, and I we're pinning a lot of our hopes on Ben Johnson. You know, a coordinator, I don't know. I think if I was Aaron, I would just stick it out with Green Bay one more year. No owner, I got control of the place. Familiarity. Christian Watson at the end of the year was really emerging

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in Philly and you've been in the Northeast. The pressure in Boston, in New York and Philadelphia is difficult, So having guys that can handle that Daniel Jones has this like Alex Smith like quality of just pretty mentally tough, pretty through fifteen touchdowns last year, and they gave him

eighty two million dollars. Now, I get you want to retain him and the best thing is to franchise Saquon Barkley because you want sake one there, But you don't you know, you would love to just go year to year running backs, even on the franchise tag ten million dollars To take that all day long. I just have a hard time thinking that he was going to sniff that money on the open market. Who are they bidding against?

Spat price point? Because in a salary cap league, you're guaranteed money impacts how you build your team over a couple of years. I thought it was insane. I remember having a discussion with an agent. I had left ESPN and John Skipper, who's a nice guy, but he was paying people seven figures and there were a handful of people, and I remember talking to an agent and saying, who is he bidding against? These are like hosts. They're capable, but they're not like seven figure people. And John was

just handing out contracts. If you take out two games against the worst rated defense in the league, Minnesota. Look at Daniel Joe numbers and you can say, well, he doesn't work with much Patrick Mahomes with three cast off receivers and rookie sky Moore had fifteen touchdown passes by week five. Daniel Jones just isn't that talented. So you know, whatever the number comes out to, and it's always kind

of fuzzy math. I think it's in the thirties somewhere, thirty six, thirty two, whatever it is, it's still at some point is going to limit. They're gonna have to get on draft picks. You know, you're not going to be able to go out and get two or three offensive player. They have to rebuild the receiving corps, they need a tight end, and they have to rebuild outside of left tackle, the old line. There's a lot, and you can't depend on the draft to fill all those needs.

You gotta pay for some of it. Well. Part of having a star offensive coach, which it looks like they have, is you can get value at certain positions, and you should be able to find quarterbacks of value. Obviously, if you get to Mahomes or whatever, it makes sense even for Andy Reid to give a lot of money, But Brian Daboll's value is to get guys like Daniel Jones to overachieve. Why then pay him, Because again, eighty two million dollars, he got ten million dollars more than Derek Carr,

whose resumes aren't even close to comparable. Right, I thought the Saints got an incredible deal. So I was just watching before his press conference. They got a grown up in the room, a guy who's now coming off a rough season, so he's going to be motivated if he had been a free agent after the year that they had made the playoffs two years ago. He's getting well over one hundred million dollars right that season that he played what he handled with all the adversity. And look

at that division. I mean it looks like Baker Mayfield might go to Tampa. Panthers have no quarterback. Whoever they draft probably is going to take the league by storm. I mean that division is I feel the Saints are borderline like lock playoff team next year. Yeah, and going back defense is good. Yeah, going back to Daniel Jones

is when people complain about offensive lines. Justin Herbert walked into this league and behind the thirty second rated offensive line, had thirty one touchdown passes, and was told he was starting five minutes before the game. Remember that opening game against the Chiefs. Tons of pressure, so you can't use If you have great talent, you can play Joe Burrow. Year two got to a super Bowl or year three got to a super Bowl with an awful offensive line.

So I don't want to hear about Daniel Jones and about offensive line and they say, well, they don't have great weapons, you know again, Guys like Mahomes this year tasted offs Juju, Smith Schuster tasted off the Packers guy passed off Sky Moore, rookie Tony who was considered you know, yeah so and he made it work. Great quarterbacks make it work. So I think what's happening in Chicago, although I do think Justin Fields is more of a there's

some real talent there that's non infreciable. But I think with Daniel Jones there's not any wow there for me, not a wow arm. He's a big guy that can move, but it's not Lamar moving, it's not Kyler m I just I just don't see the wow. There's no juice to me. I think he's got a really good offensive coach. Say Kwan Barkley went down in the first four or five weeks. Worst case scenario, what does that offense look like? Yeah,

there's they're they're in major trouble. I think sometimes you you know that that organization falls in love with humans, and you know he's mentally tough. He handled the tough times, but you eventually have to play the position. Let's see what you want about Kirk Cousins. He can give me thirty five touchdowns a year. He can produce. Obviously Jalen's producing, you know. And that's the thing, like I found pretty laughable the reaction to the Lamar collusion. No one wants him.

Last year, to Shaun Watson was given two hundred and thirty million dollars and we all laughed at like that's the most insane contract. Only one or two guys in the league would do that. This guy wants that contract and no one will touch it. Well, we just said last year that that contract that he wants is moronic. No one would do that. Right, good player, but under no circumstances. If I owned a team or ran a team,

I would trade for the player. If I get him for a normal quarterback contract, but I can't pay him a guy who's been injured, and it's not he doesn't guarantee me anything. He's got one playoff win. Well, yeah, I mean you want guaranteed money, You're not guaranteed to play Sunday. Of his last twenty two games, he's missed forty percent. He's missed ten. So nobody wants to say this because it feels like you're taking a shot at Lamar's mom. But he needs an agent. Agents do two things.

First of all, teams are now taking shots at Lamar why because they don't he doesn't have an agent. You would never take a shot at a star player because he has an agent. And an agent represents lots and lots of people, So you don't want to piss off an agent because then he'll steer his clients against you or away from you. But when you don't have an agent, and I've had several of my career, they it's a vest.

It's a little bit like a protective vest. Is that the agent keeps you out of the room with your boss so it doesn't get emotional. The agent make sure they say nice things about you. A good, powerful agent matters. He's using his mom and reportedly now he's doing some of it. You know, he's moved her off that. It's like, dude, I got nope. You know if my mom represented me or yours, did they get emotional? Were their sons? So I think when he did that, you know, I tried

to tread lightly and be respectful. You can't have a parent be your agent. Come on now. Charles Robinson wrote a really good article where he got a lot of unnamed people in the league, GMS and agents talking and this point, well, listen, Mike mcglinchey's going to sign in a couple of days. The owner just gives the GM the thumbs up. But when you're doing a contract like this two hundred plus million dollars guarantee, that's an owner run deal, and these agents go right to the owner.

This is not the GM and the coach ultimately aren't the final say on this one, right like they would be with signing a wide receiver or this is the biggest contract that team has ever given out in the history of the league potentially, So that's coming from the owner and he has no direct path to the owner. I mean, it's just it's if me and you owned a condo for two hundred grand, we could figure out

how to sell it on our own. If we wanted a two hundred million dollar piece of property, we'd probably get some representation to help us out on the deal. Right right, the amount of money that's on the line is too enormous, Like he's a he's at a major disadvantage, and the Ravens know it, and that's why they did non exclusive tag. They go, we're not even gonna pay as much, and we're not worried about people bidding for your services because you don't really know what you're doing.

I also think the culture is so strong that between the GM, the owner, the roster, the defense, the assistance, there's kind of a feeling in Baltimore last year, I mean, shit, they went toe to toe with the Bengals twice at the end of the year with like third string guys, and we're Cincinnati needed a miracle touchdown to win one of those games. So I think they look at themselves and think, you know, we're really at an a level

in terms of drafting and developing. If we have to go get Max Duggan in the second round, or we have to go get somebody we like, we will, So, I mean they've won a super Bowl with Joe Flacco, Trent Dilfer. They gambled on Lamar Jackson to some degree. You know, a lot of people's thought he wouldn't be great. They've been able to find quarterbacks who others bailed on, who are different, and they've got success with all of them. So I always just sort of trust the Ravens to

figure it out. Like a ruer in life, you don't have to always hire an expert. Hire smart people and they'll figure out complex problems. Baltimore is really good at that. Speaking of a team that's trying to find their identity, that the big trade, that the draft trade that happened, I guess would that have been Friday night? On the Panther side, this feels like it's Dave Tepper written all

over it. He's a financial wheeler and dealer. He's getting bored, he's getting tired of losing, because that's a lot to give up Colin for this. Trevor Lawrence not in this draft, you know, and they've even it's been reported they don't even know exactly who they're taking. Last time the Niners try to do something like that. That's I would not operate making a trade without the player that, you know, just to figure out two or three guys. This is one of those. You know, if Bryce Young hits, then

it looks like a brilliant move. But I thought Chicago essentially solved. You know, people banged on the Chase Claypool move. But now the receiving corps is Dj Moore, Cole Commet, very capable young tight end, Darnell Mooney a solid two, and Chase Claypool, so they don't really have to go after a wide receiver in the draft. And they've got multiple extra picks so they can attack the interior offensive. They're gonna get McGlinchey the right tackle from the Niners. Yeah,

by you know, they drafted some offensive linemanast year. A couple of them can play. You know, they could kind of go solve their defense, so justin fields doesn't have to be in shootouts. But I mean Cole Comet, Mooney, Claypool. But Dj Moore was getting a thousand yards of season with Kyle Allen, Darnald Baker Mayfield. I couldn't believe. I understand given away first in two seconds throwing Dj Moore. And by the way, so you draft a young quarterback,

you just lost your best receiver for him. I didn't like that edition. At I would have given you a corner. I'd have given you something. I would not have given you your best I wouldn't if I'm Caroline, I'm not giving you Dj Moore. They just extended him last year, so he's under contract for the foreseeable future. I thought, this is kudos to Ryan Pace because he can do two things. One find out if fields can play now he's got weapons, and if he can't, he has the

Panthers pick. They're probably not going to be great. And if his team stinks, they'd have two high picks to go up and get one of these quarterbacks next year so that they're actually getting the best of both worlds. Yeah, Ryan Poles, the kid and I did last year. He got a corner and a safety to start. He got a receiver of Vilas Jones out of Tennessee who played at USC. I could have told him he can't track the ball. He couldn't at USC could now track the ball.

So I still don't trust this organization to draft and develop offensive players, but I do think what happens after that trade, John is now we have clarity. There'll be no more excuses. Their running backs are serviceable. Cole comits a very nice, young, tied end. Now you have a real grown up wide receiver group. They're going to pay for a right tackle. Their offensive line last year rated fourteenth. It wasn't the Giants, it wasn't thirty second, it was fourteenth,

and they're going to upgrade it. So it's going to be a reasonable offensive line. What it gives you, John, now whatever Justin Fields does, this is the truth. He has more than enough talent. Now you can't say he doesn't have this. This this Claypool, Mooney, DJ Moore are three very nice professional wide receivers. See and I think on the Panther side, I just wonder if if Tepper gets involved on who they ultimately want to pick and it's not the coach and not the general manager's decision.

I think Bryce Young is an elite player. He's just short, which you know can be risky. But you know we've seen him two years ago play. They played Georgia twice in you know, a month and went toe to toe with them with a defense full of eleven pros and like first round pros. Yeah, but he's just he's just small. And you know, Anthony Richardson, I was texting with Daniel Jeremiah because Anthony richards I said, what round would those guys have gone in when you first broke in the league.

Guys like Anthony Richardson and Will Levis who are just big, physical guys, But you know, I have a long way to go. He's like, those guys would have been mid round picks. Now both of them are gonna go in the top five. So this notion that that position it's so nuanced, it's so hard. You can't just draft like you can't a defensive tackle and hope he figures it out because the time and time they don't and whoever they pick has this enormous pressure. I've seen it with

Trey Lance, all these picks, the whole trade. It just hangs over you forever. If things don't go well, it's hard. Well, the Colts I think should move up to three because if somebody moves up in front of them, they're going to get the fourth quarterback in an average quarterback draft. That would worry me. Now again, there's Max Duggan's going to be a second or a third round guy. And there's a lot of people that think, you know, a

team like Indy could get him. I'll tell you this about I had somebody text me on this inside the league. It's pretty interesting. So I said, you know, Will Levis's family has some IVY League connections. He's a four point student. He's big, thick kid, good arm. And somebody texts me in the league and said, look how chiseled he is. He said, name the great quarterbacks that are chiseled, they don't exist. Is that when you get you ever go you ever go to the gym and see a wait letter,

try to play basketball? How stick they are. There's no fluidity to him, no fluidity. And and so this person said, he is this is a danger sign. He's jacked, he's ripped, and he comes off sometimes as a little bit stiff. He doesn't come off as fluid. And he's strong. He's a smart kid. But the Will Levis stuff is interesting because you know there's so much of it. You like

IVY League family, huge arm. You know, his numbers look like Eli Manning's out of old miss a non traditional SEC quarterback who you know, like one seventeen games in two years for a basketball school. It kind of feels eli. But the person who texts me is just like, you know, go look up the chiseled quarterbacks. It's like you see Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning with a tight shirt on. They they're big, they got more of a chest. But you don't see you don't see ripped guys. It's not

what you have to be looked. That's why ply On Metrics and Brady. You've got to be loose. You've got to be able to be flexible and move your feet, move your hips, and Levis is just ripped and jacked. Looking to get more out of the NBA season, Well, now is the perfect time to download FanDuel, America's number one sports book. Right now, new customers get a no sweat first bet up to a thousand dollars. That's free bets back if your first bet doesn't win. The promo

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And obviously he won a couple of picks later and it didn't work out. And I've heard from some people that Levis might have. Again this is all relative. I mean, he's a high level guy, just some meathead football qualities, which works in a lot of positions, you know, like because they're you know in the weight room where Bryce Young. You read some of these stories that he was like a football savant. Yeah, and to me, if he was

six to three, there wouldn't even be a question. And that's where C. J. Strout in that game against Georgia. If he had been playing like that his entire career, mobile you know, making plays behind the line of scrimmage with his legs to then throw, I think he would be kind of a no brainer one or two pick. But I just know the way these gms think that just the one game sample size is hard because that's

never how he played. He was just a pocket quarterback and he played with you know, seven all pros on the outside. Also, also outside of Michigan, Ohio State never plays a conference opponent with even talent. Their wide receivers are significantly open right in the SEC. As good as Bam is, LSU, Georgia, they got the same dudes and Texas A and M. Now you don't you may not

think joke couch. They got five star dudes everywhere. And so when you you know, when you see a wide receiver and you're in Bryce Young's hitting him, he's got a Georgia first round corner up against him. You see a lot of these Ohio State highlights. These guys are wide open. No CJ's accurate. Um, he had a good combine. That doesn't mean a ton to me, But he throws a beautiful ball. He throws a beautiful ball in his hand. But we've never had an Ohio State quarterback of note

in professional football in the history of the NFL. And there's probably a reason is that they have so separated and over the last several years because of a coach. They have Brian Hartline, who maybe the best recruiting coach in the country. They're getting like only five star guy now that that's all they get at Ohios. It's become the best wide receiving program in the country Alabama and

Ohio State. So you're playing up against produce corners, Minnesota's corners, Illinois corners outside of Michigan maybe at Penn State, Michigan State's corners. So it is harder to evaluate. I said this for years, It's like I didn't know how good, you know, tool was. I'm like, these got these you know, even in the SEC they have like two the DeVante Smith and they have all these first round guys. I'm like, this is better than the Patriots. So but I just

think it was CJ. Stroud. There's a lot I like, but I well, those there's a lot of easy throws. If you're a Buckeye cornerback. Yeah. One other thing on the draft. I haven't heard your thoughts on this guy is an incredible talent. Jalen Carter the defensive tackle to Combine. Yeah. Yeah, And I think most teams would have him ranked that

way too. He went to the Combine, had to leave, check himself into jail, postponed, come back to the Combine over a couple of people that died, and he was clearly in another car right there, and no one ever knew about that until that moment. I'm sorry Colin that he had some other question marks. You're drafting the person as much as the player. I went to the All Pro team last year. There really weren't any low character

guys on the team. It is full of just Mahomes's and Kelsey's and Bosa's and Freders and just pretty locked and loaded guys. I'd have a hard time pulling the trigger when you can't trust the human being. I don't care how good a player he is. No, I think it's a real thing. I think the sport asks so much of you physically, mentally, emotionally that it's a It's a test. Football is a constant test of your character, your soul, your communication. It's a complicated sport. You have

a real playbook. So I think football weeds out people who aren't committed. You know, Jimmy Johnson still tells me the number one thing he always looked for was just football intelligence. Could you learn things quickly? Football? There's a reason half the league is undrafted because those guys learn quick, high character, good values, excellent teammates. They're not the most physically gifted. I mean, can you imagine if the NBA was half undrafted. I mean, hell, the NBA's mostly all

top eighteen picks. It's a talent league. Football's different, john It just it asks. It's such a pressurized one game a week, physical, regulated level of violence, a playbook that if you're not buttoned up, even guys who look like Baker Mayfield, who's just a little cocky Johnny Manziel, it eats them up. And we also love it so much more than any other domestic sport. It's like soccer. It's like the English Premier League in the UK. The pressure

is so massive. You have a bad game, you don't play until Sunday, you get nothing but ripped by your local media for a week. It's not like the NBA. You got a bad Sunday game Tuesday night in Denver, you scored forty. Nobody cares. So the Jalen Carter stuff, I think, I think your point's well taken. If you start looking at the all pro teams, very few low character guys last or make a difference in this league.

You know, this week I always thought, even when I when I was in the NFL growing up, this literally this week could be a little overrated because most great players never hit free agency, and the ones that do get franchise tag. But now the influx of all these young, aggressive general managers, the cap has boomed, so the money

all these owners have cash. The trades are the curveball these last couple of years, really probably last five or six years, that have added an element to this this week, in the next couple of weeks that just hasn't been there, you know before, because the NBA and baseball always was heavy in trades, and football never truly was a lot of draft trades, but just sweet players plug play that was never that's become very very invoke and that's it's

already happening. Jalen Ramsey, Aaron Rodgers. But I wouldn't be shocked if there are three or four that we don't even know of. Last year had happened to we killed Davante Adams. Get buckle up because it's coming, John, This used to be March Madness week. All you talked about Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday was March Madness. If Aaron Rodgers tomorrow at noon says I'm a jet, it will just bury March Madness

talk for three days. So yeah, one of the things the NFL's always done is they realize it's a television show and they treat it like it. They have manipulated their schedule. They've gone after college basketball, they've gone after the NBA. I've been saying this for years. If I ran the NBA, I would start the season on the Wednesday after Thanksgiving, so you can't compete with Thanksgiving weekend. The college football that weekend is unbelievable. The NFL's unbelievable.

So Monday, guys like me, every talk show NFL, then Monday Night Football, Tuesday, NFL. Wednesday is just everybody's kind of exhausted from Thursday. For everybody's exhausted from like four days of heavy football Wednesdays start the NBA season, cut twelve games out of it, and I think that would be manipulating the schedule. That's essentially what the NFL has been doing my entire sportscasting career, figuring out these little holes.

Free agency now is right smack dab, because as you said earlier, these guys are all they're all on the phone tonight and I think it starts tomorrow. You're legally allowed to get on the phone. So Aaron Rodgers, clearly the Jets are offering green Bay something because you know what, you know, the deal is not only in the works, the structure is probably there because green Bay had to allow the Jets to talk to him. So that Jets and the Packers they've got the deal. The deal's done.

They're just waiting for Aaron to make up his mind. And it behooves him to figure this out sooner than later, because then the Jets can do other things. You know, Yeah, I would expect him to be a Jet. Honestly, could happen break tomorrow morning on your show, right this week, probably before Wednesday, that we get some finality there. Who do you like an NCAA tournament well, you know, I try to watch the good teams. I've watched Gonzaga, Ucla, Kansas,

I watched Texas a couple of times. I've seen Duke. I think Duke's plan really good. So I've seen Duke play five times, but it's all four or five were at home, you know. I think Kansas bills self out of the hospital Hans. I saw CBS was picking a lot of upsets, like Mark Hat in the final four. I'm like, all right, I would go with heavy favorites. This is a lad, this is a year without a great team, and so what's going to happen. Take the veteran coaches, Take Mark Few, take Bill Self, Take the

veteran coaches. Because there's not a huge gap in talent um, and so I'll lean on coaching. I think UCLA's coach is really good. But I didn't see all year long. I watched Duke a couple of weeks ago, and I was like, Okay, they got it. They got it kind of cinched up. It looks pretty tight um. But I think if you if you told me Kansas Duke that kind of level team won it. I do think all year long we heard that Gonzaga, it was kind of an off year. I don't know. I watched them when

their conference championship. I watched them Plans and Mary's good. I watched it. I was like, I don't know, they got a dominant player in Timmy. It's like, um, I think it'll be mostly favorite twinning. I'm trying to think of an upset Tennessee plays Louisiana. Everybody's told me that Louisiana is gonna win that game. That's what all the CBS experts said. You know, the Big Ten's got to be pretty fired up. UCLA hoops is rolling, and USC's got Lincoln Riley and they're treading up. I mean, it

couldn't have gotten much better timing for that conference. Kay, Listen, if if if Oregon and Washington go to the Big Ten, now they only get half a financial share, which would still beat the Pac twelve, but if they go, you could you know, I feel bad for the conference. I really done. I think Oregon State's got one of the best young coaches in the sport. You task excellent. Um. I like what Jed Fish is doing at Arizona. It'll just bump me out. It really will. The volume make

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