Colin Cowherd Podcast - Mike Silver on Rodgers List Push Back, Brady/Niners Theory, Lamar/Ravens Standoff, McVay Power Play - podcast episode cover

Colin Cowherd Podcast - Mike Silver on Rodgers List Push Back, Brady/Niners Theory, Lamar/Ravens Standoff, McVay Power Play

Mar 15, 202348 min
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First, (3:00) Colin gives his take on the intense media coverage over Aaron Rodgers next move, and Rodgers pushing back on media reports of him giving the Jets a list of player demands.

Then, longtime NFL writer - and host of the Open Mike podcast - Mike Silver joins Colin to discuss the NFL world waiting on edge for Aaron Rodgers announcing if he’s headed to the Jets, his push back over ‘the list,’ if Sam Darnold could end up starting over Trey Lance for the Niners,if Tom Brady is still in play for the Niners in 2023, the best and worst case scenarios of Jimmy Garoppolo to the Raiders, if Sean McVay is heading toward total organizational control with the Rams. 

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dot one eight hundred gambler dot net West Virginia. Hi. Everybody, welcome into the Wednesday Morning Podcast. Mike Silver. Like Aaron Rodgers, he went to Cow highly connected NFL reporter All Things Niners. Aaron Rodgers, some Raiders talk. Darren Waller to the Giants a nice pickup for a New York Let me start with this. Since the Super Bowl, I have talked to three two in person, one on the phone FaceTime, three

different Green Bay Packers. So all respect Aaron Rodgers, but you know when you play with Aaron and you're a teammate of Aaron. Aaron's going to do things that Aaron wants to do, and he's rarely going to let you in on it. So I was talking to another Green Bay packer yesterday and he has no animosity toward Aaron. Played with him for a while, not one of his guys. The takeaway is on the list with the New York Jets. It's not necessarily Aaron Rodgers feeding a reporter. Aaron is saying.

The list is suspect. It's that this has been a real trend of Aaron Rodgers. Nobody's connected to him, nobody knows anything. So Trey Wingo said it's done. It wasn't He ripped schefter and Ian Rappaport, Diana Russini. He's telling people that she doesn't know what she's talking about. The list is suspect. Nobody just makes stuff up. Now, I will say different people can speak on Aaron's behalf. Nathaniel Hackett could tell a report or something and they take

that as gospel, you know, from Aaron Rodgers worldview. So something I have sourced from people who have seen or been with Aaron over the last month month and a half since the Super Bowl. He's pretty chill on it. He's doing his thing. He's got multiple events he's scheduled personally throughout the summer, probably not going to be available for Ota. What happens happened. He is capable of walking away. Pat McAfee mentioned he wouldn't be shocked if he did

walk away. I don't think he will, but I think he's capable of it. He's not obsessed with football, clearly, you can see by his semi committed off seasons. But Aaron's not that closed to that many teammates. He wasn't that close with Davante Adams. Davante Adams left, you know, he didn't have a great relationship or any relationship with the young wide receivers. Alan Lazard has signed with the Jets.

That's a comfort signing. I'm sure Aaron, over the course of the weekend in Malibu, talking to the Jet said, you know, there's a couple of guys I really like Mercedes Lewis, Alan Lazard, Randall Cobb. You know, I think that's a reasonable assumption, And they went out and got Alan Lazard. Do I think the Jets would acquire Alan Lazard if they weren't seeking Aaron Rodgers No, he's a big body. They got Corey Davis, No, I don't do. I think they'd bring in Nathaniel Hackett after bombing Denver

is their first choice if they weren't interested in Aaron Rodgers. No, I don't think they would. And I've said this with Aaron. I don't think they're gonna ever win a Super Bowl. I don't think they're gonna win their division with Aaron Rodgers. If you go back to his history his first year of doing anything starting he was six and ten. First year with Lafleur and Hackett, he had a mid to high nineties passer rating at the time, third lowest of his career. I do think he makes the Jets better.

But Aaron is manipulative, not just in this instance. It's with the media. It's kind of downgrading anybody's information unless it's directly from him. But Aaron also gives off the vibe that he doesn't really care and he's really chill, but shit pisses him off privately. How do I know that because I was told that twice yesterday. So if I was Aaron, I'd stay with Green Bay. My guess is has always been fifty one percent Packers over the Jets, but by signing Alan Lazard, I think the Jets are

doing everything possible to get Aaron. But I don't think they have an answer yet. I don't, and I think Hackett was step one. Alan Lazard is step two. You know, maybe we'll hear something on David Baktiari, but you know this idea that nobody's connected to Aaron and nobody knows anything. Aaron's got plenty of players people. I know that he shows his disdain on a regular basis. He hears the media. He was not happy, I'm told with the list said

it was BS. I just don't believe Diana Russini completely made it up. Why would she do that, She's got a nice career. Why would you just throw out a haymaker that's totally, absolutely inaccurate unless you had some feelers on it and some legitimate sources. So I do know that Nathaniel Hackett is a huge fan and friend of Mercedes Lewis. That I know. So I know Hackett and not Aaron Rodgers. Necessarily he would go to Robert Saul

and say get me Mercedes Lewis. Mercedes Lewis is affordable, smart, good, locker room guy, tremendous blocker. So I think Hackett could have easily been the one that initiated the Mercedes Lewis conversation with the Jets. That's what I believe to be true. Let's talk to Mike Silver. With the NFL season, over all eyes in the sporting world turned everything from the NBA to college hoops to the NHL. Plenty of games to watch, are even better, plenty of games to get

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and Aaron Rodgers is always manipulating. So I talked to since the Super Bowl, I've talked to three different packers and two in person and one FaceTime, and you know they've they were you can respect a co worker. It doesn't mean you're boys. And there is a sense with Aaron. Bill Simmons and I got into this discussion once that when you're you know, you and I are married, you and I have kids. Our life is a series of sacrifices right when you're single, rich, no kids, no pets.

It's not so. Aaron's kind of the sun in his galaxy right. And this is not saying he's inconsiderate or thoughtless, That's not what I'm saying. But he can be at times a bit manipulative and very Aron centric. And I think in this situation there are teammates in Green Bay that I've been told that feel like bro I don't want my names on lists, I don't want my names and reports. I just want an answer. I do think there are people that are close with Aaron at times

can get discouraged with him. Is that fair well, I just I look at it as such a longer thing. And remember the infamous Summer of Far farv in two thousand and eight. I was at Yahoo at the time and spent a bunch of days, planned on going to Green Bay for a couple of days, stayed for about five as the saga played out, and he became the guy and ultimately became what will now be a sure first ballot Hall of Famer and a four time MVP.

And throughout much of that time, I've been a person who believes very vocally that that organization hadn't aggressively gone after it the way they should with a quarterback that special. And you know, they have a philosophy that dates back, you know, before this regime Ted Thompson and Ron Wolf

and all that. But I used to say, look, it's easy to say we're just going to sit back, be passive and build through the draft when we have a transcendent quarterback, by the way for the second time in a row, who will cover up a lot of our ills. And I think they've under achieved organizationally by not doing that. They kind of started to try to do that toward the end they had their run, it didn't work out. In twenty nineteen, they lost badly on the road in

the NFC Championship Game. In twenty twenty, they hosted with no fans and lost to Tom Brady and the Bucks, a team that had loaded up. And in twenty twenty one, they lost at home to the Niners in a game that neither team could really score, but a block punt decided it. And I think they know the windows over, so it makes sense for them to want it to end now, And I think if they had a time machine,

they'd go back a year. It makes sense for Aaron, given the way that context has changed, to want to leave. And I understand why people on the outside get frustrated. What it seems to make that much sense. Why it is just happening, And it is a little complicated, And maybe Aaron is exerting leverage right now or just sincerely trying to figure out what he wants. But it seems to me that the math adds up to Jets desperately want him. He knows Green Bay that that time has

kind of past. Packers just want to move forward, knowing that they missed their window, not like, ha, we're gonna win the super Bowl now with Jordan Love. I think they know on some level and they need to get the contract off the book. So when you put all that together, I see why people on the outside say, let's just do this now. What did you make of the list? Aaron has told some friends it's BS. I tend to defend all reporters, Mike Silver, Diana Russini. I've

never worked with anybody who makes stuff up. Now, I do know Hackett is close with Mercedes Lewis. The name Mercedes Lewis could have shown up on that list from Hackett. I know that because I know Hackett. I know Mercedes well, and Hackett and he have a good relationship. And a lot of people like Nathaniel, whether he's a great coach or not, he's very close to a lot of players. They really he's a very engaging, lovely person. Yeah, so the Mercedes name on the list may not have been

Aaron Rodgers. But Aaron saying you know the list is nonsense. He'll announce on McAfee tomorrow. You know, he'll probably push back on some of it. What did you make of the list? Well, I don't mind if there's a list. First of all, I can understand why Aaron and especially the Jets would want us to not fake. There's a list, But I'm kind of okay with that, especially someone at this stage of his career who's going for broke and people could say, oh, he's big a diva, he's trying

to be the GM. Yeah. And Tom Brady did at the end, and Peyton Manning did at the end and they won super Bowls. And if you're that good, you not only are able to do that, but you should. And I'm not saying he's right about Randall Cobb and Marcedes Lewis at this stage of their career. If that's a comfort thing for him, I think it's a conversation with the team that's trying to get him Lazard. I don't think that's a team to do. If you if you bring him in as your one, you're crazy. If

you bring him in as your two three. Yeah, sure, that's fine. Um. I love the Beckham thing. I think it's cool. Like Tom Brady had Antonio Brown living at his house, Antonio Brown, who's the biggest nightmare or for an organization to deal with at all, ever, including for Tom. It turned out, so yeah, go get Hodell Beckham if he could play like he played when we last saw him. Yeah, I like that. So I don't hate the list if it's real. And I again, I know Diana really well.

I'm sure she has great source to got it. I don't mind the list. I understand. And why if you're the Jets and you're Aaron, you don't want people to think there's a list. Frustrating for Packer fans because they're like, he didn't seem to be all in last year. He paid him all the money and then he kind of disappeared, didn't work with the young receivers. Seemed like he thought he could snap his figures that turn it out at the very end, even worse. It worked for four weeks

and then lost in the Lions that it ended. But the Jets wouldn't be getting that guy. They'd be getting it aggrieved, highly motivated, chip by his shoulder. I'll show you Aaron Rodgers and so the Packers aren't trading that guy necessarily, but the Jets are getting that guy, and

it is what it is. Listen, you know a lot of these leaks that come out, you can often see which direction the leak comes from, right, Like I don't think Aaron would want that list out right, I surmise today I said, the Jets are getting frustrated they released a list, So if he doesn't sign, the New York media will go, well, God, look at the stupid list. Randall Cobb in my take risky because then if he's your guy, he's already he already doesn't trust you. So

I don't know. I haven't tucked to solid today, but I'll bet if Robert Sala had any hair, he would have pulled it out during the when he first saw in his screen that that list had come out. That's my suspicion is that Jets don't want to go into this relationship with any weirdness. And by the way, I've said this before, Colin, I am pro leak. For the record, I just every time we talk about leaks, I do want to say that pro leak keep it coming. So, um, let's pivot to a couple of Niner things. So Sam

Darnold has a lot of Trey Lance qualities. Coachable, big athlete, mobile, but not spectacularly fast, not a pretty thrower, not highly accurate, prone to some mistakes, but good in the room. Coachable, big, physical, athlete for a big, physical team and culture. That's what it felt like to me. It feels like Trey, Lance and Darnald are battling for the backup. Though am I too idealistic on this Brock pretty thing? I think Kyle Shanahan loves Purty. I think he does. Yeah, he does.

And it was settled. It was over. Purty was the guy. It was. They were good too. Couldn't even touch his contract for the next two years, couldn't even renegotiate till two years from now. Cheap deal, load up around him. Maybe Lance develops and you flip him, maybe he's your backup. Whatever, it was all good. And then if Brock Purty broke in his leg in that game, nothing would have changed. A tough break, man, we lost. Brock's the guy. He ripped out an important Look at it. It is throwing elbow,

so yes, it changed. So what they hope, and obviously, based on their behavior so far, what they hope is that's six month timeline is reasonable and if not, maybe it's seven, maybe it's even eight. But eventually the guy we get back is going to be the guy we had. He'll be able to throw it like you threw it before and we're good to go. And if that happens,

then what you said is absolutely right. But they do have to live in a reality now where it might not be that way, and sometimes they're setbacks, sometimes they're scarred tissue. Sometimes it just never comes back to what it was. I don't think that's likely. I think the likeliest thing is brock Purty will be back at some point, you know, not too late in the twenty twenty three season, looking like he did before. But um, you have to hedge.

So after last year's entire offseason of trays the Guy, Trace the guy, trays the Guy, and you and I infamously noted during that offseason that wasn't going super smoothly and accurately. We accurately reported that he wasn't super accurate, that his arm was experiencing fatigue, and that he wasn't consistent. Um we've since been u thou to be true by including Trey Lance, who was disgusted. But um, so they have to have a plan C. I wondered if it would be Matt Ryan, if he'd want to do it,

given his history with Kyle. I wondered if it would be a Dalton Brissette type of guy. They went a little younger. Um. Interesting comparison Dartled and Lance. Um. The one thing I'll give the land say is that Darnold is not known for his intelligence. Not I'm not I'm not saying Sam Darnold's not intelligent for the record. I'm just saying he's not known as a quarterback who just you know, blows you away with his the whiteboard, whiteboard

where trade. They saw something intelligence wise before the draft that got them super super fired up. So that gives me hope that maybe there's a jump to be made. So I think Plan A is Lance is the guy. Darnold's the insurance. Maybe Lands starts a game or two, but Party's the guy. Plan B is man. Party's not coming along great. But you know what, lads stepped up. He's the guy. Darnold's the insurance. Plans C is Trey's not able to do it. He's gonna have to be

the backup. Will go with Sam Darnold and figure it out. Plan A minus as you know, and I will. I don't think it's likely, but you know, John Lynch is gonna call Tom Brady in May or June and go, Hey, I know you said for good, but it's your hometown team because he's the perfect guy as a hedge against party. If you don't think Purty is gonna be right next year, but you think he's the guy in the future, you can just do one year a Brady and still keep

that same plan. It's interesting to me that both the Nighters in Miami have constructed their twenty twenty three rosters to basically say we can win now if our quarterback thing works out. In the Nighters case, Purty's elbow comes back or Lance mix a jump. In the Dolphins case too, it doesn't keep getting concussed. But hey, Tom, wake quake. We're built to win now. And if you came just for one year, WHOA. No, you and I are leaning

in the same direction. I mean that's why the backups Darnald and Mike White are not really super viable long term pieces. They are your classic emergency starter, meaning if Purdy goes out, Brady steps in. Nobody questions whether Brady's the guy right right? Yeah, No, I totally agree. And again, so you and I can sit here and say Brady makes a lot of sense. I know they're gonna at least try. But are we saying do we know what Tom Brady's gonna want to do? No, he said for good,

So I'm assuming it's for good. I just know that if you were gonna go back on that, you've got two really attractive situations, one where your kids live and you have a place, and one where you grew up and your parents live. So Jimmy g to the raiders. You know, Jimmy G. Well, there's a lot of stories that can now be told because you don't have to cover him. So I'll throw out what I've been told by the years, by people in the building or around

the building. He's a guy's guy. There are limitations on his arm despite being a pretty big, solid guy. He doesn't have much of a whip. Not terribly fluid, kind of mechanical. But he's a great locker room guy, kind of an alpha could at times not be flaky but disappear in the off season. They felt like he relied a lot on God's genetic gift to him size chest, confidence, wasn't a workaholic. He's as good as he should be considering his commitment. Okay, so first of all, I love

Jimmy like I do. And one reason I love of is because I did write some of that. Last August or September, I came out with a thing talking about how they have the press conference in twenty eighteen after his five wins, they give him the money, he's the guy, and then they have the big, you know, celebration, and then he leaves and they don't hear from him again for months, and ghosting them over the off season was habitual, except for the year they drafted Trey Lance. He was

really a tent of that off season. So I wondered how that was gonna go for me. After I wrote that, next time I saw Jimmy, it was all good. And you know that's yet another I do love Jimmy. I think he's awesome. I love his temperament. I think he had the best temperament for Kyle Shanahan, who gets really tightly wound and gruppy on game day. Sometimes not on game day. I think it rolled off Jimmy well. He was super popular. I think his arm, don't. I wouldn't

say anything bad about his arm. His release is so good and I don't think there are five other quarterbacks on Earth who really throw it like he does. In terms of release and short range short to media rage accuracy like it's you know, there were a lot of route or plays that were pointed out to me where people said it looked like Jimmy did went through his

reads and led this guy perfectly. What might have happened here is Jimmy saw it late, but he gets it out so quick and so perfectly that it just looked like that. So I do think his arm is really good. People have talked about his deep balls. I don't know. So anyway, is Jimmy garoppolo. You know, there's a lot of quarterbacks who are not grinders. One of them we suspect in Arizona because they put a clause in his contract about video games. One of them is trying to

get a fully guaranteed deal. Now we should talk about that. By all metrics, he deserves relative to Deshaun Watson, and he deserves to get paid way more than Daniel Jones, etc. But I think one of the things hurting Lamar is this perception that he's not grinding in terms of off the field. And Jimmy is another guy who has acquired that reputation, and you know, will that change with Josh and Vegas probably if you look at how he acted

when they drafted Lance. Yes, and also look, I love I love Jimmy in twenty twenty two, I don't give it f Jimmy, which was liberating. And I told him, you know, in late December when he was hurt, I said, dude, you realize that the most Niner thing ever is going to be for you to somehow come back and play

the Super Bowl like it just is. And there was a moment sitting in that stadium with the link early where I'm like, purdies out, Josh Johnson's in, Christian McCaffrey just ran through five dudes, They're tied, and I'm like, it's gonna happen. Josh Johnson's gonna win this game somehow, and Jimmy Garoppolo is gonna come back in two weeks and start the Super Bowl against Patrick Mahof. So it didn't get quite that far, but I don't want to discount what he did. He really bailed them out last year.

He played at a pro Bowl level. He got hurt. There was some tension after he got hurt. The way it was explained to me is that you know Trey Lance, who was hurt, was coming to every meeting and really was engaged with Brock. Jimmy's style was to not show up a lot. Kyle had never specifically said this is mandatory, get your butt in here, and so he wasn't disobeying anything.

It was just a different approach. And it's possible that that what Jimmy was taught in New England, by the way, that Bill's approach is when you're injured, just you know, stay out of it. But that if there was any tension at the end, you know, it was a three year breakup, so of course there was ten shit, But if there was tension at the end, Kyle, I think, was frustrated that Jimmy wasn't hanging around the way Trey was. So I do want to move segue into Lamar Jackson.

Years ago, Kirk Cousins got a guaranteed contract. It was highly criticized, dubious, too expensive. Minnesota was pretty desperate in a division with Aaron Rodgers, and so they offered it and Kirk, you know, with a chip on his shoulders, said I'm going to sign it. However, moving forward, nobody else offered a guaranteed contract, including the significantly more talented Aaron Rodgers. My takeaway has always been I've seen this since I ran the volume. I'll make people an offer.

I'm not going to offer you something just because I feel an inferior podcast company makes you an egregious offer. Right, So, Cleveland's a desperate franchise, much more desperate than Minnesota was with Kirk Cousins. I don't believe Baltimore, a highly functional organization, should look at Cleveland and go, well, they set the market. If you're not available on Sunday, I can't give you a fully guaranteed contract, right, you have to I have

to be guaranteed, you know, buy and large. Brady showed up every Sunday five showed up, Eli Manning showed up, Daniel Jones shows up. There are guys that get dinged up for a variety of reasons. I love Lamar, but I worry that it's now personal because he doesn't have an agent. And when you don't have an agent, it does get personal because you are discussing people who are, if not lamenting, they are discussing your weaknesses and liabilities

face to face. That's why I have an agent, Mike, so I don't have to deal with these kind of conversation one, which is why when you and I renegotiate our deal, we'll use agents and they can do all that crap take the arrows for us exactly. Yeah. So, first of all, I believe the Ravens are not shining organizationally, and I have been as big a fan of that organization publicly as anyone for a long long time. I

think they've botched this too. I have written that they left around and found out they were willing to go into the season, go and find we'll just play it out with Lamar and am I saying Lamar intentionally sat out all those games to spite them. No, but he didn't have that feeling that he was taken care of. And his coach came out publicly and was like, hey, I think he'll be back in a week or two, and which you know, I don't love. If I'm a player with a band and they've lost a winnable playoff

game potentially against the Bengals, they didn't have him. Um, so they've budged it too. And if it's personal, maybe it's personal in their head too, But they've budged it. So let's let's assess a. Would it be easier if he had an agent? Yes, it would be easier. Does it mean he has to doesn't? You know Roquan Smith doesn't have an agent and they got their thing done. It'd be easier, especially right now gauging the market all that. It would be better I think for everyone. But you

know that's not my decision. Um is. I'm told to Colin that Lamar's Lamar can't get past, and we've all been there right in our careers. Lamar can't get past. I'm better than Deshaun Watson and I'm not screwing up off the field like and I'm not saying he's wrong. I think he is totally. Absolutely, He's always been a

better thrower than anybody wants to admit. Yeah, so the so the you know, Gene Hackman's fallen sheriff in unforgiven says to Clint Eastwood, you know, I don't deserve this, And you know Clint says, who's got nothing to do with it? You know, deserves got nothing to do with it. He deserves to get a guaranteed deal more than Deshaun Watson or Kirk Cousins. Yes, he deserves to get paid more than Daniel Jones for Heaven's sake. For Heaven's sake, Daniel Jones, I mean, come on, that's that deal's not

going to age. Well, I'm sorry, but as you know, it's all about circumstance at leverage. And he could have signed after year three, gotten a bunch of money up front, and now be trying to renegotiate from strength. He didn't

do that. He didn't do what Kirk Cousins did and play out two franchise tags and putting his organization in a box to the point where they blinked and took Alex Smith that he was free, and they didn't do what Deshaun wat He hasn't done with Deshaun Watson did him Maybe he will, But Deshaun Watson showed up at training camp uncomfortably with an organization that didn't want him, reporters hounding him about something he didn't want to talk about, and fans checking out a circus, and he knew he

wasn't gonna play. It turned out he wasn't gonna play for you know, almost a year and a half from that point. But by doing that and having the will to do that, he created leverage, and the Browns were desperate and he got that deal. So you know, you put all those things together, and if you're Lebar Jackson, well you don't have that kind of leverage or you

haven't exerted that kind of will, now, could you? Yeah, you could say I've not played for thirty two million, go ahead and have fun with Tyler Huntley, and I'm just gonna sit Await. I'm not saying he should, but he could do. You think the Ravens, frustrated by it, would just say we're gonna move on, We're gonna draft another quarterback because we like our roster, our culture, our coach,

and our defense. Yeah. Maybe, but I also think we're living in a weird world where, yeah, no one has stepped up and offered Lamar because partly because a lot of teams think we're just doing the Ravens work for him. We're gonna give him this deal he likes, and they're gonna match it, and we're going to alienate the people we have. The quarterbacks we have now who knew we were trying to replace him, So why would we do that if if Lamar were free? First of all, different story.

Second of all, let's be honest. Desperation isn't confined to the Cleveland Browns, and there aren't that many really good quarterbacks, which is why you and I are talking about ninety three year old Tom Brady. Sorry, Tom, I know you're only forty five. Yeah, that's why we're talking about Tom Brady. And that's why we're talking about Lists and Aaron Rodgers. There are only so many transcendent ones, and I think Lamar's transcendent. I'll stick up for Lamar as a player.

I think he's one of the very, very best. He won seventy five percent of his starts in the AFC. Yeah. The only you know, I think there is a little PTSD from the Russell Wilson trade, honestly, because for ten years we saw a guy be transcendent in my opinion, and then oh whoa, he looks nothing like that guy. And by the way, Geno Smith is now a pro bowler in his place. So that was that through people.

But at some point if Lamar Jackson was like, I'm not playing for you, I'm sitting out, at some point, some owner or some GM or some coach or all three are gonna be like, man, our quarterback stakes, we're all gonna get fired, or if you're the owner, we're gonna lose. But we can go get that guy. Let's go get them. Looking to get more out of the NBA season, well, now is the perfect time to download FanDuel,

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But it does irk McVeigh greatly that he looks at Zach Taylor's weapons, Shanahan's weapons, his peers, you know, his age peers, and they're stacked. And he's sitting there thinking, I got an injured Cooper Cup, I don't like my back cam akers, my on line shit. Stafford's got an elbow issue and won't renegotiate and he's pissed. So in my world, he has used retirement twice last year to get a big contract this year, to get more leverage with personnel. And I was told a month ago by

somebody inside the organization that knows Sean well. He basically said, fellas, I'll come back. We're moving off defense. I watched what all my contemporaries have, all these young coaches, and I see their weapons. We're spending money on offense, so I predicted they we're going to move Jalen Ramsey, get draft capital, FREEEP cash for offense. They move off Floyd good player, not great, but you know, eight sacks a year now

they have a huge hole at that spot. They move off Bobby Wagner past his prime, but certainly high IQ. Excellent communicator, really a nice veteran piece on a playoff team. Excellent piece. So do you believe if I'm wrong on any of this shouted out, but I believe Sean has just said, guys, we're going to load the offense up now. I won you a super Bowl and the defense was fifteenth in the league. Do you think there's a struggle with him in less snead? I don't know, Okay, So

first of all, fix the offensive line. That's the most important, that's more important than any of it. That would be no matter. Why do that. I think Sean's had a lot of power there. It justum, I believe he's sincerely thought about walking away the super Bowl year, and those TV jobs were good jobs, and he's a he you know, he's a supernova who burns himself hard like a lot of these guys, and he's been told for a long time, you'd be great at television. I could understand him seriously

considering a reset. I think he regretted coming back pretty quickly when he had no offensive line and no alternative you know, weapon under than Cooper Cup at Higbee, and Stafford's r wasn't right and you know, etc. So I don't know. I think Sean has as much power as he needs in that building without having to do that personally, but maybe maybe he used it as a talking as a jumping off point to say, by the way, I want this established, that we're going to do this. I'll

try to do some reporting on that. But I have a story for youa it goes back to the first thing you said. So in twenty seventeen, the Rams come out of nowhere and win that division in Shaun's first year, and there's this changing of the guard game at the end of the season in Seattle and they kill the Seahawks,

just wipe them off the floor. And the Seahawks have decided they're going to get rid of a bunch of their you know, legendary players after the season and rebuild around Russell and Bobby Wagner, and the Rams have taken over. They clinch the division, and now they have one more game left against the Niners, who remember had been oh and nine. Jimmy shows up, they go on and run late.

They beat the Jags on Christmas Eve days. So now they're playing a game in LA and Sean mcface smartly rests Jared Goff and a lot of his frontline players in that game. Well, you know, the forty nine ers were our role. They were loving the Jimmy thing. They were trying to win the league team rushing title. So Mike McDaniel and some of their coaches were very like, hey, I wonder if we could finish first and rushing. And

they had their reasons. You know, it was a last season, but they really wanted to finish strong, so they brought it in that game and they murdered the Rams, just blew them off the field. So now it's about exactly five years ago. I'm with Sean and a couple other people at bungalow in Santa Monica at night, outdoors, lovely establishment, and you know, we're having some drakes and just talking and Sean looks at me and says, I'll tell you

something right now. I don't care if I'm fifteen and oh, I don't care if I've clinched every single thing I can clinch. I am never resting anyone against Kyle again. It will never happen, no more, not going through that again. So that should give you an idea of how they think about it. So, yeah, would Kyle give up all those games to have that Super Bowl on paper? Yeah, but the experience of losing eight out of nine to Sean would probably, you know, just tear him up beyond belief.

And I think as much as Sean could rationally tell himself, I won the one that mattered. It was the NFC Championship game and won the Super Bowl, it is it's really hard for him to lose those other eight. No, it's I've been told it eats away at him, it really. And listen, now the Niners bring in Hargrave, you know, who's you know, just another fantastic, pastic player because kin Law doesn't feel like it's working. So I mean they lost, you know, they lost a corner and then they lost

Jimmy Warden. It's like, yeah, they're fine, They're really really good. Yeah they I mean they like the Seahawks. Early in Russell's tenure. They're paying more guys than you believe a team can pay, and the Rams kind of have done that too, but it's like WHOA. They pay the fullback premium Ushik, they pay McCaffrey premium running back money. They pay the left tackle Trent Williams premium money. They pay the tight end George Kittle, and they obviously are going

to pay BOSSA. They pay Eric Armstead premium money. And now Hargrave. They paid green Law. They got him on what's going to be a good deal for them, but they paid him. They pay Fred Warder premium money, they paid char Various ward a year ago premium money, Hofanga. They still got other rookie deal, and you know their attitude is we're just gonna fill out around that and lose the mcglinchi's and the Jimmy Wards and the all shy ears as it happens, and try to you know,

replace those people. But it's all geared toward that rookie quarterback deal. And if you hit a point where that doesn't work anymore, which again depends on Purdie's arm healing and or Lance possibly making a jump, then you have to make some tougher choices. But for now, yeah, they can get Hargrave, they can pay Bosa. And I know people don't believe this, but if they had to, they could pay Brady for one yep, yeoman effort by Mike Silver at the volume who who's battling either influenza or

just oh look at that UCSB UCSB dad. I just want to be I'm a double UCSB dad. One graduate, one current attendee, So the Gauchos have a big one Friday against Baylor's in the NCAA Tournament. So I am repping. I'm taking Duke at pretty good odds. Duke lost one game when they were healthy, they won their last nine straight.

Do you have a favorite in the tournament? You know, I've been really detached from college basketball this year, partly because my alma mater went three and twenty seven and that's not a joke, literally like a cataclysmic So but you know, I don't really know it well enough to tell you who I fix is gonna win, but I will say, you know, the Gauchos to me, are the type of team that could make, you know, stun somebody.

In Round one two years ago, they had a real chance to be Creighton came down to a five foot shot by their star big man that went in and out. I mean, you don't get any better down one with at the buzzer. Basically, this time, they have a sophomore guard from Belgium named aj Mitchell who is really really special and to me, it's gonna be hard, but he's the kind of guy who in that setting could maybe elevate and shock the world once Mike, it's a great

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