Colin Cowherd Podcast - Cowboys Postmortem, Matt Mosley on Dak Disaster, Jerry Reaction, McCarthy Future

Wednesday Morning Podcast. A couple of things. Matt Mosley is going to stop by to discuss Jerry Jones canceling his radio interview. Jerry is not prone to relinquish the spotlight, so canceling an interview is noteworthy. And in about ten minutes, Matt Moseley will stop on by speaking of the Cowboys. Forty six million viewers watched The Cowboys and the forty nine Ers on Fox. It's one of the most watched

Divisional Round games of all time. When gambling sports gambling was legalized, I said, my only really concern of it is now the constant belief by degenerates who have to validate their betting losses. Is the games are rigged, folks. If Baseball was rigged, the Yankees would end up in every World Series. If the NBA was rigged, the Nickson Lakers wouldn't be a mess for now a decade straight. And if football was rigged, the Dallas Cowboys would not be as inept as they are as a playoff team.

The Cowboys are automatic ratings forty six million viewers popular NBA teams in the Conference Championships, or as they call him in the NBA, the Conference Finals get like six million viewers, one fifth of that. The Cowboys don't win playoff games because the Niners have a better roster. And the reason the Niners have the better roster is because they pay the right players. They have a better left tackle, they have deeper wide receivers, they have better linebackers, they

have two legitimate corners. They're better at safety. The Cowboys tend to pay too much, pay too early, and pay the wrong people. They paid linebacker Jalen Smith a year later they had to get rid of him. They overpaid for a running back Zeke. They paid Dak more than he's worth. If you start looking at the Cowboys' biggest salaries running linebacker. That's not what the best teams do. Dallas has some individual star players, but they don't have

a single great unit. The Niners have several, the Eagles have several, the Chiefs have a couple, the Bengals have a few. The Dallas Cowboys are out because they have often paid the wrong positions and players more than they're worth. And next year it's worse. Dalton Schultz free agent Zeke Dak massive cap hits. Zeke next year will be the number two running back cap hit in the league. He is not a top ten running back. Dak will be the number two quarterback cap pit. He's not a top

ten quarterback. Come on, he's not. So the games aren't rigged and the Cowboys are where they are for a reason. Coach of the Year to me as obvious Brian Dabele, New York Giants. But when I hear other people like Kyle Shanahan and Nick Seriani getting suggested, I'm not bothered by it. But to me, coach of the year is overcoming, and that's what separates a great quarterback from just a guy, the ability to overcome. I've said this now for several years,

and you've heard it before. Every quarterback is good with a run game and protection and a lead. The great ones Burrow Mahomes are great trailing, they're great without run game. They overcome. Well, that's Brian Dabele. So think about this. Kyle Shanahan has the best roster in football. Yes, he's on his third quarterback, but Garoppolo succeeded with this roster. Brock Purtty is succeeding with this roster. This is a

great roster. Sarianni has done a great job, but this is a great roster in both instances, Kyle Shanahan and Nick Sarianni, the general manager, deserves a great deal of the credit. Brian Dable is winning with a quarterback who ended up at Duke that's an academic and basketball powerhouse. Jalen Hurtz was recruited by Nick Saban in Alabama and then went to Oklahoma and Lincoln Riley. He's an elite athlete.

Daniel Jones went to an academic power certainly talented. Brian Dable got him to the playoffs in a pretty good division with a rebuilding roster and a quarterback who, if he was on the open market today would arguably fetch no offers. Jalen Hurts would get offers. Jalen Hurts would get several offers. A mobile twenty twenty three quarterback who was in the Heisman race, who puts up big rushing and passing numbers and doesn't turn it over much, Jalen

Hurts would fetch a half dozen offers minimum. Daniel Jones, I'm not sure would fetch a single offer on the market because everybody understands the value of what day Ball did for Josh Allen and Buffalo and Daniel Jones in New York. To me, the Coach of the Year award is a slam dunk Brian Dable doing more with significantly less of a roster and a quarterback talent. Dove Cleman, he is a reporter NFL reporter is saying the Packers are now exploring trades for Aaron Rodgers to the AFC.

Makes sense. They don't want to have to face him. I get it, it'd be humiliating to face him in a playoff game. This way, if you do face him, it's probably in a Super Bowl. I think it's really smart by Green Bay to consider this. For a lot of reasons. Number one, Aaron would not get to a super Bowl in the AFC. It's too crowded, too many good teams. Number two, this roster is capable in the NFC north of winning without Aaron. If Jordan loves a

B to a B minus quarterback. Consider the additions needed for green Bay, so it's pretty good roster. They could use an edge rusher, a receiver, and a tight end, and maybe an offensive tackle at some point, though they addressed the offensive line in last draft. If you get an additional one and a two for Aaron Rodgers, you can literally and green Bay as a history of drafting pretty well and developing exceptionally well, green Bay in the first two rounds can essentially wrap up their needs in

the draft. Yes, Aaron's a dead cap hit, but Jordan Love doesn't cost anything, so it's a wash. I just think it's time. I think when people ask for concessions in any job, if they're an elite performer, I think companies will adjust. Aaron now is not given you the offseason commitment. He's not getting you playoff double us. He's now really expensive and not terribly flexible in terms of his willingness to work with a new offense, new schemes, new players. I just think it's time. I don't even

think it's a big risk. Remember when they moved off FARV for Aaron Rodgers. Farv was arguably the most beloved player in the NFL, along with maybe Peyton Manning. Aaron's not. There are a lot of people in Green Bay that are over over Aaron Rodgers. I think a lot of people feel like he's held them a little bit hostage last couple of years. Now Jordan loves not as good

as Aaron Rodgers. But don't forget Aaron's first year. He won six games as a starter, so it was bumpy, and also far within a year was winning a lot of games for Minnesota. If you ship Aaron to the AFC, there's not a lot of open divisions now that Jacksonville is a real team, not a lot of wide open divisions. Where would Aaron go in the AFC if you're fearful of facing him again? He wouldn't be favored in the division with Belichick and Josh Allen Mahomes's division. He wouldn't be,

to me favored in the Joe Burrow Division. And I don't think he'd be favored, honestly against Jacksonville. Jacksonville's got a shot up out offensive line, think up more weapons. They've got a highly capable offensive coach in a league that's pivoted in that direction. So I think, move an aeron to the AFC, and what do you need? Give me a first this year, a second next year, a third the following year. I'm good. Aaron's thirty eight, about to be thirty nine. It's not playing forever. That's the

other thing. If it takes Aaron a year to kind of get up to speed with Rabel's offense or Robert Sala's offense Titans Jets, respectively, Aaron's only got about three years left. So it makes a ton of sense to me. I don't think it's a scary proposition. The Vikings are not going eleven and oh next year and one score games. The Bears are a wreck offensively, don't even know if they have the right coach, and the Lions haven't won the division since nineteen ninety three. Now's the time. It's

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prone to do. That that's something right. Did he not want to defend Dak Prescott? You know, I do think this is uncommon. Most of the time. He will sort of go into hiding at times. Right after the season, and he's been known to kind of stay in hiding, and last year he did something similar and he kind of left Mike McCarthy twisting in the win and that allowed him to eventually be able to keep Dan Quinn. I don't think this is the reason this time around

for him not showing up for his weekly hit. And I think Jerry what he does is he goes on like a geese hunt, and there's a place in Arkansas and he and the family they hold up and he likes to get away and kind of think of the next moves and everything, and he's just not ready to talk about this anymore. He defended Dak after the game. He said McCarthy's fine, So in a sense, I think in his mind he's already done that and now he can take some time and get away for a little bit.

And there could be changes because Kellen Moore's interviewing with the Panthers to you despite Steve Smith saying after that last play, why would you ever interview Kellen Moore? Cancel the interview, but Steve Smith is not in charge of that interview process. So I mean there's a chance that Jerry could be losing both coordinators, and so you and I always end up talking about McCarthy. This literally could become all about Mike McCarthy to the point, could Mike McCarthy.

Could Jerry make a decision to say Mike sink or swim? There's a lot of moving parts here. The one thing I could tell you, probably for sure, is I don't think Jerry's entertaining the idea of Sean Pate. I think we can probably rule that one out. Yeah, Shan wants control. Bill Parcels. Did Jimmy Johnson did. I've always felt that Jerry likes to be necessary, and he feels more necessary with Mike McCarthy than he would Sean Payton. Sean Payton Parcels, Jimmy,

don't make you necessary. They're not people that need your business acumen or your drafting acumen, you know. And this is I think Jerry feels necessary. He saved Mike McCarthy. Mike McCarthy wasn't getting interviews, he was being blamed for the Aaron Rodgers divorce. Jason Garrett didn't get many interviews. He's on NBC. He felt like he was a son. He was saving him. I think Jerry's had always had that feeling. I think that's why he's sometimes overpays for

players he feels an importance in their life journey. Sean Payton doesn't make Jerry feel necessary. No, and he loves Sean, But Jerry doesn't respect coaches. Is really the bottom line. He doesn't pay the kind of money he will pay. I mean and fine money. But if the bottom line is the thought of trading draft picks for a head coach makes him laugh, like in his mind that would

be a baffling thing to do. And I do think you're onto something when Jerry likes comfortable, hires Wade Phillips, Mike McCarthy, and he just kind of likes people that will kind of do their thing. Let Jerry be Jerry and Sean. Sean would be okay managing Jerry because he knows him so well. In fact, Sean would be better at that than Bill. And Bill really wasn't that bad at it when he was here. Jerry just kind of went away and that was a weird thing. And I don't think he wants to go back to a place

like that. But I do think I do think you're right. I think it's a good way to put it that Jerry does feel need to feel necessary, but also Jerry feels the knee. And when I say he doesn't respect coaches, well you saw it. You go back to Jimmy Johnson and his famous statement that I could find five hundred coaches with his talent to do what Jimmy did. Um, it's an infamous statement, but somewhere in the back of

his mind he still kind of thinks like that. And then again, that's how you end up with a Mike McCarthy, someone who has championship skins on the wall with winning a world title. But so he knew it was a It was an okay, it was a defensible hire, but it wasn't a knock it out of the park hire. Jimmy Johnson tweeted the final play of the game was dumb. It was ill advised and poorly constructed. Does Jimmy still hold weight? I mean that's in Dallas. I mean when

Jimmy says that, what's the reaction. Well, I mean, he still has everybody's ear and we all love to see what he says. But I don't think it really nothing, you know, really bothers Jerry, Jerry ignores him to the point of leaving him out of the Ring of Honor, and so there's just a you know, there's just usually a large disconnect there, and Jimmy loves getting the sharp stick out and taking it to Jerry, and then he's been doing it for twenty five years or whatever, or

you know, twenty eight years since whenever he left. So no, I do think people are interested. And you know what it did is it's just it just it goes into the sort of the lack of credibility when you do something like that. It's just again, it's not the end all be all, Like I don't think you fire a head coach off of the last play that had no

chance in the first place. It's just it just looks silly and it makes it makes you look sort of a Mickey Mouse, you know, when you line up and try to do something like that and get your poor running back. You got him. It was a good it's a good snap. I think Zeke's got to anchor better. He's got to learn how to anchor better at center and uh, but but again, what does it remind you of? It? All those old bloopers reels we used to love, and I don't know you know, the NFL Follies or whatever

we call that. That's what that looked like. So it kind of eats away at the credibility of Kellen and Mike, you know, in the whole gang. But I think what they'll do when they say make Dak friendly. They're gonna put a new voice in his here, and I think that'll be interesting to see who that ends up be.

And it might be it could be Mike McCarthy. He would never admit this, but if Kellen Moore got another job, I think deep down Mike McCarthy would be happy and he would make a move and try to convince Jerry let me do this. Dan Quinn's a good coach, certainly done a good job hiring a defensive coach in this Dan age. Seven of the last eight coaches left in football were offensive coaches. Sean McDermott was the last defensive

coach standing and laid an absolute fricking egg. That was maybe the most ill conceived offensive game plan with a great quarterback I've seen in the playoffs in years. It's one thing. If Daniel Jones struggles, it's another one. Josh Allen is three and out in his first drive and they have deep balls up the sideline in a snowstorm. Is not a game plan. It's winging it, it's calling plays. So I think dan Quinn will be around at least

for another year. You know, they're in a really weird situation where Dalton Schultz can test the market, Tony Pollard can test the market. Zeke is wildly overpaid. I said this in the preamble to you, is that you know, when you look at why the Cowboys are the Cowboys, they've often paid too early or too often for average players. They paid Zeke too early, Dak too much, Jalen Smith too early, and too much. You don't pay linebackers in

this day and age safeties linebackers. You know, Seattle's finding that out when they have two high price safeties. Buffalo is finding it out. Buffalo's offensive lines to disaster, but they've got great linebackers and safeties. Is that it's going to be an interesting offseason. If they need another receiver, Dalton Schultz could be gone. Gallup has proven to be a three and at times I'm not sure he's that. What do you think personnel wise, franchise tag wise, what

does the offseason look like? Well, I think it's going to be an old Romo friendly type deal. Used to hear that terminology, and I think they're going to bring that one back to make this thing Dak friendly. This season got away from Dak. He got in a bad way. He says all the right things. He's a great podium guy, as you've talked about, but he didn't get it done. And so this offseason will be about putting Dak back

together and finding Okay, why did this happen? Why did a guy that was sort of known for managing games and taking care of the ball all of a sudden to have a huge turnover problem. So a lot of that's going to be about that. Now when I say Dak friendly, I think that it's gonna be They're gonna they're gonna try to bring in more talent around him. Gallop, didn't you know they didn't work out this season. They had to go to t Y Hilton CD was all they had. Schultz is probably gone. We don't know what

about Pollard because of the injury. There are people that are gonna put in their face right now. They're already doing it. What you know, why did you you didn't get anything for a Mari. You had two stud wide receivers and you didn't get anything for him. You got

a fifth round pick for Amari Cooper. So that's what you're gonna hear this offseason is how do we make this thing Dak friendly and who can we bring in to build him up and to add more firepower, Because at the end of the season, here's what they're gonna do. They're gonna look back at these interceptions. What they're gonna tell you this offseason is a lot of it wasn't Dak's fault. I don't believe that. I mean, did you see the look in Dack's eye after those two picks

the other day? Did you see that kind of deer in headlights? Like, I don't know what's happening. I don't know how this happened. But because they pay him so much and because he's their franchise quarterback, it's just like with Tony, they're going to have to They're going to have to make it not his problem. It's we didn't do enough to help Dak. We've got to do enough to help Dak get over the hump. And so that's

what this whole thing is going to become about. So the Cowboy Twitter account, and this is very rare, took a shot at DAK. Now. I saw a story today that suggested Jerry o'kaye that how's that playing in Dallas? What's the rumor in Dallas about that? Because you don't see team Twitter accounts ripping star players even after bad games. First of all, the idea that somebody went to Jerry with a headline is ludicrous. Okay. I mean I've been in newspapers my whole life and websites and all that

kind of stuff. That's a joke. Like anybody who says, well, Cherry, Harry's fine with that. Now the thing I could defend him on if you kind of see it's like a link to a story. The story is probably has more nuance and it's not some kind of attack on DAK. But it just looks strange, And it is kind of funny that even after all this blowback and people are like, what are the Cowboys doing, they just kind of left it up there. So I don't think I would say

this though. Deck is kind of going to go away for a while, we won't hear from him, but he was made very aware of it. I assure you that that Dak's people and anybody has said, boy, Deck, look how the Cowboys took care of you after the game by leaving this tweet up there. Now Again, from a journalist standpoint, the tweet the headline was sort of a match to a story, and like, whoever wrote that story didn't write the headline. Somebody from the Cowboys put that

out there. And then suddenly what surprises me, Colin is that somebody and I know all the people in charge over there, they're good people, Like somebody just didn't delete it. Go and this is causing a firestorm. But maybe we should admire them for saying, you know what I mean, we make fun of people when they delete something, right, they just left it out there, and who knows, But the thought of Jerry having any say or carrying in the least about what the website tweets out is beyond crazy.

I kind of feel like the Buffalo Bills and the Dallas Cowboys. This was kind of the spot Buffalo because Mahomes is hurt, Josh Allen's big salary kicks in Buffalo defense is going to have to probably get rid of a safety, a linebacker. This was the best of the Buffalo Bill's roster. It may not look as Josh Allen's contract kicks in. It may not look this nice. Remember Kansas City had to get rid of Tyreek Hill, Savarious Ward of the corner. I mean once the big money

kicks in. Cowboys had to let go of Amari Cooper, the Titans with Tannail had to get let go of A. J. Brown. So I feel like Buffalo, this was the best the roster was going to be. Now it's going to have to be leaner. And I look at Dallas and I say to myself, Okay, they can't get out of this Zeke thing. They can't get out of this Dak contract. Dalton Schultz is leaving, Tyron Smith is expensive and old. Is there an argument this is the best of the roster? Well,

this was the best year to break through. I don't know. I think they might be able to do some things to help the offense. I don't know. I mean in a weird sort of way. The injury to Pollard may help them. When Pollard's a great player, how do you he was going to get huge money on the open market for a running back. Obviously, the value for a running back is not what it is in other positions. But they were people. Yeah, yeah, there are people that

were going to be very interested in him. Well, on the open market, it might have been even more than that. I mean, he might have got ten to twelve. But now nobody knows what to make of this injury. And this is where Jerry's really good. Jerry can come in and go, Tony, we've brought you in here. You know,

we've given you this platform. And Jerry loves to make that argument to players if you're if you retire a cowboy, you know you're going to have a job the rest of your life because you were a cowboy and all this kind of stuff. Zeke's probably gone. I mean, are you really gonna keep paying Zeke to be a short yardage running back? I mean, there's just really there's really no great place for him. I mean there's no there's no great fit. There's also not a market for Zeke,

is there? I don't I don't think so. I mean they're trapped. He's he's so valuable to them just from Dak loves him, this sort of leadership. I don't really think that transit that wouldn't translate to some of these other places. I'm trying to think of where some people that have coached him have gone on to. But no, no, he's just I mean, there's no more tread on the tire. Just look at the numbers. He was averaging two point one yards per carry. Pollard was their home run hitter.

Now Pollard, as of as our taping, just in the past hour or so, he had this surgery. Um the fibula that's gonna heal on its own, as I understand it. The ankle they had to do some surgery on. He's going to be ready by training camp next year. So but again, we don't know what he's gonna look like. Is he gonna have to say burst a gonna take him a while to get back up to speed. This is the killer for the Cowboys is you've got a rookie quarterback on the other sideline in San Francisco. You

hold them to nineteen points. He's good, I like broc Perty, but he didn't. It's not like he was just unbelievable in that game. He made a couple of really good throws. But you hold them to nineteen points and you're huge money quarterback goes out there in first half. It's just like he's walking in the in the I mean just in the woods or something like, hey man, what's going on here? Oh man, sine Clara is nice and he's just he's throwing picks and he could have thrown two more.

I mean, that's just demoralizing to an organization. That's why Treyvon Diggs, j Ron curse to Marcus Lawrence. You could sort of watch their body language after that game. That's not up. We're all in this together. That body language. Even dan Quinn that he's got to be thinking. We did everything we hood and we were knocking on the door, and the sad things for Cowboys fans and the people

who cover them and everything. We all think it was nine to nine Colin, everybody'd been a moment in your mind where you thought, hmm, maybe the Cowboys win this thing, go the NFC title game. I would say eighty to ninety percent of all Cowboys fans and the people who cover them were just sitting there like, Okay, how did they lose this game? Which direction is it gonna Is it gonna be another interception, there's gonna be a long drive.

How are they gonna lose it? There's nobody that truly felt like they were going to break through and it was nine to nine. I mean, they it was right there for the taking. So I think you can improve the roster. But the problem is, I don't know if you ever have a better shot. I mean, San franciscoes looted, but they don't have the right I mean, they got a third stream quarterback. Are we all gonna sit here

and jump now? He may go on and win the Super Bowl and it will go all right, rock party, He's going to be their quarterback in the next five ten years. I'm not ready to say that. Well, here's the Cowboys dilemma is both the Niners they don't pay that quarterback for three more years, so they can keep their players. They'll probably move Trey Lance and the Eagles aren't moving. They're not moving any of their players because they don't pay Jalen Hurts yet. So Dallas is going

to face those two stacked rosters again next year. And my takeaway is Dallas will be less talented next year. Now if Dallas, you know, they're a playoff teams, so they're not going to be in a great draft position. And most of your NFL gms have told me for years, you run out of first run players somewhere between the fifteenth and the eighteenth pick. So Dallas, if you're at the end of the first round, you know you're it's

kind of no man's land. But I do think there's tight ends and wide receivers in the first two picks for Dallas that can absolutely elevate the offense. But the Tony Pollard situations rough because I think they you can't let Dalton Schultz walk and not go get a tight end. You can't, and you got to get an inexpensive tight end. Well, it's a good The first and second round have about four and you know tight ends have historically dropped in

the draft. George Kittle was a fifth round pick, So I think Dallas is in a weird spot where they've really got to hit some home runs in the first three picks. Offensively, they also need a second corner. Now you can get that in later round. Seattle did this year. They got a corner in the fifth and the sixth round starters. But I do feel like this was the year. I mean, Brock pretty by next year, Matt he's gonna have multiple starts. This was the chance to get him

and by the way they did. They the defense did get him like he It's not like they went out there and raced up and down the field. They got nineteen points and the Cowboys go out there and and just you know, and put up twelve points. So you're right, it was this game. This was so gettable and it just kind of makes you think that as it's currently constructed with this head coach. Now, there are people who still think Jerry could make a change at head coach.

I mean, he loves to shape things up and make people uncomfortable, So I do think Jerry might enjoy the shake up of two new coordinators. I don't think he's going to do anything to Mike McCarthy, but I it's it's it really is. I think he's hold up thinking of a way and thinking of a plan. And he's the ultimate salesman, so he's thinking of a mantrap or what can we roll out there? Now the old Romo friendly, Maybe he'll go with the Dack friendly or whatever. But

this will be about the redemption of Dad. This is our guy. He's totally fine. He's a great quarterback and he just had a bad season and maybe it was he was rusty after missing the five games. But the thing is, he missed five games, he still threw seventeen interceptions, and people say, well, Matt, not all these things were his fault. That's true, that's true, But there were a lot of pick sixes, three pick sixes since Week fifteen. They've got a quarterback problem and there's no easy fix.

I mean, everybody here wants a new quarterback, new head coach. None of that's happening. I mean, you can't move off that contract, so all you can do is try to

build around him. But but you know Jerry Jerry right now, it's he's putting together before he can actually go do some things in free agency, he has to put a marketing plan together, and before he shows up in his comfortable meeting with everybody at the owner's meetings or wherever, the next to combine, wherever he speaks next, because he will sometimes go into hiding for a little while, he's going to come out with a whole new thing, and it's going to be about how close they were. Maybe

he can use this powered injury or something. But what you're about to see is a circling of the wagons around Dak Like you can't even believe, and that's because they have no other alternatives. What are they going to do? Rip him? I mean, it's just they're going to They're going to put everything in Dad. You can fire your head coach, but right now you can't do anything about your quarterback. Okay, well, Mosley, that was some good work. I really appreciate it. Put those glasses back on. Enjoy

your beautiful family. Yeah, I know, I appreciate that. And you should know when I'm on with you on these podcasts, it just generates. I mean, just as we were getting ready to come on, I heard from somebody from Box. Oh my gosh. By the way, I'm supposed to be on the radio right now, but I think my show started about two minutes ago. Okay, Colin, I may need to I'm you need to go now. Hey, appreciate it. The volume. Make sure to check out The Draymon Green Show.

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