Hey beepers, this is Gary from your SMB podcast. I would say your because I think the show belongs to you guys. Because you guys listen and you know, wish you guys chime in more and say, hey, I'd like to see this on the show. But you know, you guys don't. That's fine. This intro is for you people and my hosts. I will not be there on the show you were about to listen to. You notice we have a show last week is because I mentioned before the end of shows that let
my mental health get in the way sometimes. And there's nothing I can really do about this. There's lots of going on my life right now that I can't control. And as a 43 year old red blooded adult male get really frustrated, much like many of you do in females too. And others get frustrated and it makes you want to punch a wall. So again, I can't perform and make jokes
for you people. And they were gonna do this last week, but they didn't want to go on without me so that they wanted to know how they're gonna go on without Gary doing some kind of sing songy voice for you people. And because for some reason I sing on the podcast. If you like it, you like it, if you don't, you don't. You think it's charming, that's fine. It's something I do to get to expel energy emotionally with other folks words. Cuz I can't write for. For nothing.
But um. Yeah, what I figure, why not bring in the show about football that's not really about football. Because there's football elements. This movie you guys about to watch and I listened to you about, but um, a lot of it's, you know, about like the politics of football and you know, the horn dogs of football. In the case of one movie, fucking just getting in old made from different strokes and other things. Talking to you, Burt. Yeah, I respect that. My concern.
This will leave you on this episode cd podcast to where I'll see you guys called bars of a song. I enjoy that. You know, I sound okay singing a karaoke so you guys know it. It's an oldie but a goodie. But I think it fits most of my nights at work and beyond. So here goes nothing. A one and a two and a three and a four. Today I'll sing my songs again. I'll play the game and pretend. But. All the words come back to me like shades and mediocrity like emptiness and harmony I need someone to comfort
me. Cinema Beef podcast they're fucking awesome. Cinema Beef podcast homes. My homies. Deep down inside, I love them every night. In most days. I don't know the rest of the words, but I do know the rest of words. I just made up that end part for you guys and my co hosts. And, um, love to the beavers. Enjoy the show. I'm sure Suzanne and X will knock it out of the park. Like, I know they can keep saying, hey, fuckers, you're capable. If I can't be there, two of you guys roll on,
by all means. But I'll be back, um, next time. I know what we're doing next time. But I'll be back next time to. To, uh, hopefully be with you guys. They've supported us over this past, I don't even know, decade or so. Eleven years. I lost count, people. It's been a long, long time for the show. Long, long therapy experience. But enough away with the sadness. I introduce you the latest addition edition of the Cinebee podcast. Bye bye now. Welcome to the Cinema Beef podcast. I am X. That is
my name. And with me is my co host, Suzanne. How you doing, Suze? Oh, I am hanging in there. So grateful that I'm haven't killed anybody yet. That seems. That is a fair assessment. You will, of course, notice that our normal host, Gary Hill, is not on this episode. And, like, I don't know what he told you, I don't know what kind of excuse he gave, but I will tell you what I know. I heard that Gary is currently touring the country. Whippy. Jesus fuck. Whoopi Goldberg's part of sister
act of the Turing company. They're going around the theaters, medium markets, small markets. So it's him and a nun's habit. And the rest of the cast is made up completely of tarantulas, which makes the singing not so great, but it's sure fun to look at. That's. That's what I've heard. What did you hear? I hear that their website is amazing. Lots of spiders crawling through the browsers. Yeah, man. So we are going to deal with tonight's
show without Gary. But it's interesting because tonight we are looking at a couple of football movies. And what I actually know about american football, I could probably fit into a thimble. So my comments are going to be fun, I think. Are you a football fan, suze? Oh, yes, very much so. Good. Maybe you can help me out with some of these things. Like, I don't know, the snap. Why is the guy so close to the other guy's? Junk. Well, and when they snap the ball, it's got to go directly
into the quarterback's hands. You can't, you know, going from too far away. I mean, you can. There are some people that specialize in a long snap, which means they can pretty much accurately throw it directly from a longer distance into the quarterback's hands. But from that is the focal point of the start of the play. You realize how funny the phrase long snap is? To me, it just sounds like you're in the little house on the prairie and you're getting ready to.
To do something, and you're trying to take off those one piece Mormon undergarments. Let's do something that I don't think we've done for a while. Have we done beefing and complaining about things and what grinds our gears and or our beef ground? I think we need to as well. You're slightly disgruntled. I am furious. Yes. So this would be fun. Why don't we start with your slight annoyance or your. I'm sorry, your light disgruntlement. Okay. I'm slightly disgruntled for a couple of reasons.
Got Covid again a couple weeks back. That was no fun. I didn't like that. I'm kind of. Okay, let's get serious about this. One of the greatest moral arguments that I've had with myself in my entire life is, do you separate the art from the artist, or do you connect them so blindly that if the artist disappoints you, somehow you stop engaging with their product or with their art? So this is in reference to two things.
This is in reference to Emily Armstrong being the new vocalist for Linkin park, which I think she's great. And people are upset because she is a scientologist who allegedly supported the rapist Danny Masterson. Now, she came out and she apologized for that. And I'm not a. You know, I'm not a fucking Grinch. I will accept someone's apology. Do you know what I mean? And it also doesn't hurt that that new song kicks so much ass. It's just an incredible Linkin park tune,
and she sounds fantastic on it. So am I supposed to not listen to that? Because, you know, she allegedly believes that basically war of the worlds was a true story, and maybe she has battlefield earth on 4k. Uhd. I don't know. I don't want to do that. I just want to listen to the music. Am I supposed to be mad at Dave Grohl because, you know, he fucked around and found out and had a
kid. We have to get to the point where we stop looking at celebrities and I guess especially rock stars, as something beyond human. They're just people. They just have a real high visibility job. I know Dave's like, what? Like a couple years older than I am? And now he's got a baby girl. I mean, bruv, I don't envy that at all. So good luck with all that and keeping your energy up to chase that kid around. But I can't.
I can't be mad at someone for being a human and fucking up and making mistakes, especially when they do their best to jump out and get in front of it and tell people, this is what I'm trying to do to make this work for me anyway. Yeah, that's my mild disgruntlement. I kind of do the same thing. For me, it's like a case by case thing. It really has to depend on how much I like the body of work. Like I said, I didn't realize until after I really enjoyed the hell out of jeepers Creepers that
it was. I don't even want to say his name. Who was the one who molested little boys in Clown House? So from that point forward, if I see his name attached to anything, I absolutely will not watch it. I will have zero to do with it because that just makes me fucking sick. But I know a lot of people are like, well, it's, you know, it's just. You just take it for what it is. I'm like, I can't do that. When's the last time
you watched Rosemary's baby? Oh, I know about. Well, see, once again, case by case, I love Rosemary's baby. I love repulsion. I love 9th gates. And it's like he gets a pass because his wife was murdered, you know? Oh, is that what it is? I mean, it's incorrect all around. It's a complete double standard. And I realize this, and I know it's. I know it, but I can. That doesn't upset me as much as what I. Like. I said I wouldn't even say the guy's name. It just. It makes me sick.
Well, I'm not going to say his name either. I'm, you know, I know who you're talking about, but, no, we'll not say that man's name. He needs no more publicity, especially not from, you know, Cooper heads like us. Exactly. So what did happen to you that makes you want to bitch? Oh, God. Well, I love it. Here we go. Here we go. I'm just going to do this in sequential. We all know about my shoulder pad surgery. Still. Still. It's a
slow recovery. I can move it a little. I can move it a lot more than I did, but range of motion, we're still pretty damn low. But that's okay. It's working. I'm back to doing stuff. I went back to work. So I'm driving to pt a few weeks ago, and some moron flying down the road in a shit box pickup with a bunch of loose trash rolling around in the bed. I look up, a giant piece of wallboard drops right on my car. Oh, my God, my windshield. Big, giant dent
in the roof of my car. Tons of dings and scratches on the hood. The trim is all screwed up. And I'm like, well, this is just fucking great. That's not what I said in the car. I wanted to turn around, go chase him down and beat him to death on the steering wheel. But I'm like, no, I'm really not in a condition to do that right now. So I got to my doctor's office, which was only like two minutes away, called the police. That couldn't really do anything,
obviously, could not do anything. Called insurance, took it in the next day, got it in. It's in for repairs. But I thank God for insurance. But now, because of this jackass, it's costing me $500. And right now everything is so expensive, even though I'm back to work. Thank God. Yeah. Now I gotta deal with the freaking clowns that I have to deal with at work. And some of them just don't know how much they're pissing me off. Actually, you know what? Let's take that back. They found out
how much they were pissing me off. And the fact that they can't just sit there all day long if they're not gonna spend any money on drinks or gambles. So now and then, even today, I go to the grid. I pick up literally seven things. Seven damn things. And it's 70, 75 freaking dollars. How the hell are people supposed to live? I've got 500 I've got to cough up. I swear to God, I'm going on the ramen noodle diet again. I might, if I can find something super cheap and on sale. Throw that into
the mixed. I don't know, it may just be ramen noodles, because that's. It's. Everything is so fucking expensive. Gotta cough up to $500 plus, you know, going to pt, that's like $20 every time I go and, you know, working, you know, I used to make fairly decent tips on day shifts. I'm lucky some days if I walk out with a dollar because of these two jack wagons that think that they can sit there all day, watch they found out that they can't. You go home. You'll be here for hours.
I literally said, don't you have somewhere else to go? Is there a library? I'm like, yeah, you've got your phone. It's called the Internet. Find one. Like I said, it's. It's a business. You can't just sit there and not spend any money, you know? I mean, if you wanted to coke, believe me, I'm charging for that shit. Heck, yeah. I don't like. But it's just. I'm back to this.
This frickin crazy shit at work. Thank God we have some employees that don't suck as bad as other employees have, so I guess that's good. But now it's like, back to these morons that think that they can just sit there. So, yeah, that's all that's been. Really, seriously? That's been nipped. Nippy, bud. Hopefully my car will be back soon because they called when they. They talked to me today, it's like they have a backup in the paint shop because they lost a paintbrush, their main
prepper. So now my car's backed up for four or five days because of this, and I am having to ask people for rides. This is not something I like doing. All my friends, I've been pretty good. Whenever anybody's needed my help, I've always been there. They've always been there for me. But it's that whole thing of having to ask people to help me. I don't do that well. I understand that completely. I don't do that well either. It's difficult. It is. It's hard to ask for help even though I
need it. So, yeah, this is the boat I'm in. Thank God. I have, well, alcohol. I have two good beers tonight, and one of them I'm drinking now, and I will have the Oktoberfest after this. Then it's. It's Coors light and PBR. Fuck, yes, I'm a Coors light boy. Yes, I am. That is my psychotic hatred of the week. Well, all right, then. That seems like a. That just seems like a fine bundle of bile. Just vitriol. Spit it out. Like Linda Blair.
Yep. All acidyev. Yeah. Siddy and just green and just melt its way through the hull. Very, very good. So what do you. Have you been watching anything lately have you had time to have, like, a recommendation or anything for us? Oh, I did decide last night. It kept popping up. I'm like, you know, I'm gonna finally break down and watch it. I watched
smile last night. Aha. And I will say this. For the most part, I did enjoy it, but it just reminded me a little bit of a movie called Fallen with Denzel Washington. It just, that's, that's the total vibe I got from it. You know, the whole passing on the way it passed on. Yeah, it's, it was, it was fallen. It was some good gore. I wouldn't say it didn't, it didn't have, like, those creepy moments. They were so reliant on jump scare that they didn't really take the time to build up any real fear.
Does that make sense? Yeah, it makes total sense. You, Bob, have you seen it? Uh, yeah, once. Okay. What was your, what did you think? I thought, this is getting a sequel. That's odd. But here we are. So it's the sinister circle. The cat's out of the bag. Where are you gonna go? I don't know, man. I just, I didn't, I didn't hate it, but I'm not gonna run back to it. I'm not running back to it either.
It was cute, though. I mean, they gave away the best jump scare in the trailer, which kind of pisses me off when they do that. But, you know, the car door jump. Oh, yeah. Oh, so good. Such a great visualization. And of course, they blew it in the preview. So if you've seen that, you don't need to watch the rest of the film. No, you really don't. They did the same thing with the conjuring me. And I love ghost stories. Give me a good ghost story. That is like,
that's my favorite type of horror. I love ghosts. And they gave everything away in the trailer. You knew what was coming to at the turn of every corner because of the trailer. They put scenes, well, there. Now, that was a different movie. But there were a few scenes that were even in the trailer for that, for the conjuring that weren't even in the movie. Like the hands clapping interface that you saw the hands. Yeah, they, that was not in the movie.
Or I'm having a Mandela moment and it was there, and I, never mind. But, yeah, they just, I don't, I, I don't see any reason for a sequel. It's like, sinister. Why don't you just leave Sinister alone? Sinister was a fun ass, creepy as hell standalone film. Hats out of the bag. I don't understand how you can go back. I didn't mind. I didn't mind the sequel to that too much because I thought the last act was okay, but it really was just an excuse for, like, here's more super eight films.
Family is getting dead. Yeah, exactly. So it's, that's. I've kind of, for me, it's just been, like, short stuff lately. Just back to work. Don't have. I literally have the attention span of a nance. And, yeah, it's about the only thing I've actually sat down to watch lately. Well, that's completely fair. I have two recommendations and one not. Momendation. Is that a word? It is now, as soon as you can, and I know it hits shutter soon, sit your ass down and watch oddity. What a fantastic movie.
It's very straightforward, but it still throws curves left and right. And it's probably one of the best plotted movies that I've seen in a long time. It all comes together at the end. It makes perfect sense. There's no real ambiguity to it. Great, great stuff. And on the opposite side of that, have I told you all to watch long legs yet? Have you watched long legs yet? I have not had a chance. It's one of my favorite movies of the year. And it's not
straightforward. It's very confusing and twisty, and it's. It's incredible. Like, I didn't think that I would like it because of so much hype. Dude, it's a stone classic. It's just like, it's like looking through a kaleidoscope. It's incredible. Oh, shit. Oh, I forgot about this. If you're not like a horror person and you have prime, you should watch jackpot with awkwafina and that invisible guy. It is so fun. It's just like this action movie. Ridiculous,
free for all comedy. And it's got enough pop culture weirdness that it kept me engaged. I watched it, like, I don't know, twice in three days. That's really good. But, and this is old school. I'm coming in late to this party. We finally watched Furiosa. It's not good. I didn't like it. I call it Furioso. So. So to quote, to quote a Morton Joe in Fury Road, it's. It's mediocre. I wanted more. I didn't get it. The sound mix is just God awful. Terrible.
Anya Taylor Joy doesn't have the aura to pull off such a badass character as our beloved imperator. Furiosa and Chris Hemsworth is fun to watch. He's a bit of a hoot, but he didn't really have enough ambivalence to be the antihero that the movie needed. And, you know, he was the one who thought he was right, even though he was wrong. But even so, he doesn't. He doesn't carry that off like I thought he should have. And there's other characters, and you can go to hell with Pretoria and Jack
and that shit ball trio. Life at the end. It's just a huge, huge, huge disappointment. So there you go. That's. That's what I've watched, and you're welcome. I do this for you people. You know, this. Oh, God. I used to write a column called Netflix Roulette, and I would just go through. This is the early days of streaming Netflix and just, yeah, go through all the horror movies. I think I found, like, three that were not shitty, so I would just be writing about this. And I always hang it with,
I get to watch this so you don't have to. I pretty much do the same thing. I had an article. I had a column called prime in the dustbin where I could find all the lousy, lousy movies on prime Video, and they've stopped taking a lot of that stuff, which makes me sad to be has it. Now watch to be if you want hot garbage that cost $8 and, you know, a six pack to make to be is your place. That's fantastic. I love it. Also. Me too. And prime video. So be just folded. It's just. No,
it's not there anymore. We're high class. We're. We're making tv shows. Bird to burg to burg. I don't care. I want to watch a piece of garbage, and if you can't give that to me, I'll go somewhere else. Mm hmm. Amen, brother. Also, we've had Covid in the last couple of weeks, and we are seriously behind on things. You want to help a brother out, subscribe to our Patreon. So it seems like a good time to throw it in there. It's $3 a month, bitch.
For the cost of a bean of coffee per day, you can help us get back on our feet, and we will give you content eventually when we finally have time to record or don't. That's fine. You don't have to get bent. It's cool. Let's talk football. Because we had to watch. We watched two movies from the seventies about american football. Ba wants me to adjust to sitting on the bench. Hell, I'll die on a bench. What's the sense of the team winning. If I don't survive, huh? You'll survive.
Really? You know what I do? I pull for the other team. So we'll get behind it. Be a lab to put me in. That's weird. Drop it. There's a theme that runs through all this data, Phil. It's immaturity. You're immaturity. You lack seriousness. Yeah, I'm sorry if my immaturity has offended you. Now, honestly, try to change. And when you do start me, I'll make you glad you did. North Dallas 40. If you were moving any slower, you'd be going backwards.
Very funny, Elliot. Very funny. Yeah, I'm a very funny guy. Hunters. That's it. In case. Mark, that's real devotion. You remind me of the magnificent missionaries of history. They're shooting at the cows. Hey, I know. I know it's not your time of. Thing, but I happen to be more of a philosopher. I like to mingle with the little people. Nick Nolte and Mac Davis. North Dallas 40. Gross. Not gross. That's gross. Oh, they got the good up now? Oh, yeah. It's an old story. Boy meets boy.
Well, I love happy endings. The difference between good and grace is that much. I thought he came from all those funny little fields. We took a bag of marijuana. Maybe you ought to take some vitamins. Well, have some extremes. Mind if I do get a Parmesan? Well, I'm having chocolate pudding breakfast with champions there. Too damn much b twelve. That's what comes from not concentrating. Now that's concentration, Elliot. Wait a minute. Just getting to the weird part. Survive.
Do we part the weed part? Yeah, it gets weird. Paramount Pictures presents a Frank Yablan's production, Dallas 40. Wait till you see the weird part. You have probably allegedly just heard the preview for North Dallas 40, which came out in 1979. A football film from director Ted Kochev. What else did Ted Koche do? Like Suzanne said, he hit first blood and he did. What was the other one? Wake and frighten. We can fright that australian joint, which is so atmospheric
and creepy. North Dallas 40 stars. Nick Nolte is Philip Elliott. Mac Davis as charismatic quarterback Seth Maxwell, Charles Derning as coach Johnson. John Matuszak is in here. Bose Ventson is in here. GD Spradlin. Lots of b movie favorites in North Dallas 40, which is about the fictional football team. One of the north Dallas Bulls or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. So North Dallas 40 is really sort of the dark side of football, which, again, is great, because I don't know anything about this
sport. I've been to one football game in my life, I was six, and it was the Bengals playing at a stadium that no longer exists. So there you go. That's about as much as I know that. And Cootie's dad really likes college football. So when he's watching the volumes on sun or Saturdays, I can hear him just Rick flairing from the other room. If the team does good, just. That's that. And that's how I know that the balls are winning. I'm gonna throw this
over. That's what my backyard sounds like. Uh huh. I figured that. Yeah. I, you know, lived in Knoxville for several years. You learned to bleed orange on Saturday. That or avoid it. It's like, it's a childhood thing for me. My grandfather taught me football, baseball, boxing, and how to pick the ponies around. Here in Knoxville on Saturdays. We have learned not to go downtown to avoid I 40 and I 640. And just to spend your time shopping at the food city in
Granger county. Oh, yeah. Because one of my friends almost bled out after an accident because of traffic around Nealand. That'S just ridiculous. Isn't that really messed up? It was so packed, so tight, the ambulance couldn't get through. From what I've read, when Neyland Stadium is full, it is the fourth largest city in Tennessee, population wise. Oh, absolutely. That's incredible. I'm going to throw this over to you, suze, what do you think about north
Dallas? 40? Well, this is like when I really. When I was still pretty young at the time, when I really started watching and, you know, paying a little bit more attention to football and this movie, just for me, just the realism rings so true for me. And even now into the early eighties, they've definitely softened the game up. But this is, I think, is a very, very, very brutal look at what NFL football was in the seventies, sixties, seventies, maybe even into the eighties.
And, you know, it's like all the characters, you know, all kind of ring true. You've got your, you know, the quarterback always, you know, kind of putting it taken up for the offensive line because they protect him, and pretty much, he pretty much would be. He'd have your back if it was going to benefit him. He was never anyone's real friend, and I think Mac Davis played that part so well. I loved
how the ownership acted. Well, all of your businesses make way more money than your football team, but no, we love our football team. That is the end all, be all for the family is how the football team does. And I don't know, I gotta look up the name, but it was based on a novel by a guy who played for the Dallas Cowboys. Peter Jenkins. Yes. So there's a lot of realism and truth to it. And I'm sure maybe,
I don't even think anything was all that exaggerated. And I just find that Phil's character is just. He just seems like he's maybe a little too intelligent to be doing what he's been doing. He wants to start, of course. Everybody wants to start. His body is so beat up, abused, broken, and even mentioning in the movie that, yeah, can't sleep more than 2 hours. Because if everything hurts and it makes you wonder if people would have chosen this as their career path, is this
really worth it? And there's a scene where the coach was telling him, it's like, well, some people learn to enjoy sitting on the bench. And it just proved that if it doesn't matter how good you are, you're only as good as that play that you make. And sometimes that's not even enough. But I think it's a really great character study. And one of the other random faces in the locker room, and I swear to
God, I could not find his damn name. But he played HBO, had a little short run series called first and ten, and the team was the California Bulls. And one of the guys that was in the locker room, one of the players, he was in that, too. And I cannot find his damn name. But for me, like I said, this one is all about centering on how these people interact with each other. You know, how the family ran it. Dabney Coleman is once again in this is just the.
Just a wonderful, snide bastard. But, you know, you love him. Cause he's Dabney Coleman. But he plays that kind of a part so well. It's the mustache. It is. It's got. It's the damn mustache. Somehow he has a trustable mustache. Yeah. He can, like, slide all over the place on the charm of that mustache. He could get it. But I like. Yeah, but I like the character study. And that's a lot about what this movie is, the character study. And I.
I just. You really hope against hope that he just says, you know, screw it, and goes and has his horse ranch and stays away from football. And you want, you kind of, you kind of want the quarterback who pretty much gave it up just to save his own ass. So that, for me, that was the one scene where everything that I thought came to fruition when he lets you, when he pretty much tells him. Yeah. You told that you knew. Of course he knew. He told to
save his own ass. Yeah. There's another scene that actually struck me and like I said, love football. Love some football movies. Some are pretty terrible, which we'll get into when the starting wide receiver, you know, pulled the hamstring and he was like, I'm not putting drugs in my body. I don't want to take any chances of hurting myself any further. And finally gives in and they shoot him up, goes in and really, really, really fucks himself up. Is it worth it?
This movie poses those kind of questions. And for me, the seventies, seventies eras of films are my favorite. There's something about the fact that during the seventies even, you know, at the start of the seventies, you know, the hays code kind of got swept under the carpet. Films were allowed to be, you know, more. I know what I'm trying to say, deal with more controversial matter, drugs, you know, sex and all of
that. And this one, like I said, just, it really, for me, truly lifted the veil of what went on in an NFL locker room. I truly enjoy the hell out of this movie. It's one every couple of years right before football season, I have to revisit it just because it's. It's just what I remember when I first started watching football with my grandfather and seeing people just get the shit beat out of them and carted off the field. So that's kind of my assessment of North Dallas 40.
North Dallas 40 is. Is dirty, it is filthy, it is druggy, it is deceptive. And I love it so much. This level of grittiness is really what I wanted from the Iron Claw. Like, if you know me, you know, I'm a wrestling guy. That's my, that's my sport. No season, love it every week. And that's the kind of stuff that I wanted to see from seventies Texas wrestling. But we get the Iron Claw is just, oh, God, it's such a velvet glove sort of movie and
it irritates the piss out of me. But work out those forties, great. They went for the softness of iron Claw instead of the actual brutality of it. Yeah. Which why, like, you had your chance to do something better than all the marbles and you just screwed it up anyway. Nick Nolte's character in North Dallas 40 is pretty much how I think Nick Nolte was in real life back in the seventies. Just smoking and weeding and drinking and bawling and just, you know,
have a good time all the time. That's my philosophy, Marty. But he's in pain for the entire movie. And he keeps trying to fill those. It's gonna sound awful. He keeps trying to fill those hurting holes. Giggity. With anything he can find. Also giggity, buddy. I identify with that. I never wanted Nick Nolte to be my soulmate, but I will be dipped in dip if he's not my soulmate in this movie. Also as his love interest. Nice to see Dale Haddon in
this movie with her black hair and her pretty eyes. I, of course, know her best from the classic french art house film spermula. And I don't think she ever showed up in a man. You're right. I had. That caught me off guard. I had a, let's be honest, no idea that even existed. You got the Internet. I'm going to have to go find that. You can look that up. She never showed up in american cinema again. But that's the power. That's the power of Nick. It's a curious thing. Maybe more so than
Nolte. Like you were saying earlier, is Mac Davis as the quarterback Seth Maxwell. Seth just gives no fucks poot. He's got a game to win. And it doesn't matter if it's cheaper to keep her. He's going to snort and shoot his way to the top now. Mac Davis, back in the day, was a famous country singer, but I always thought he was a much better actor. He may not be the star of the movie, but he's the solid spine of North Dallas 40. And there's cameos and supporting roles just at the yin
yang from people we love. Charles Derning, GD Spradlin, John Matusek, Alan Tree. For crying out loud, who was Bubba in the tv series in the heat of the night? Bose fencing is here. Why wasn't Bose Vincent in every movie ever made in the seventies? He should have been in Star wars. It would have been great. There's this one scene. I didn't even recognize him at first as Joe Bob. Did not. And how many times have I seen this damn movie? And I know he's in it. Exactly right. I got
used to seeing him in b horror movies. Yeah, he's like in Niko Masterakis movies and not this relatively large budgeted, serious football movie. It's crazy. There's a scene in the locker room before the north Dallas Bulls go out to face Chicago. And as far as I'm concerned, it is as intense as. As any scene from the Deer Hunter it's men preparing for battle. Some are leaning on religion, some lean on drugs, some lean on each other. It's an astounding sequence.
It's a showstopper for me. Like, when I think about North Dallas 40, that's the sequence that I focus on. Everything else before and after, just kind of gets swept away. That is the scene, and it's an amazing watch. The final betrayal in North Dallas 40 comes so far out of left field, it's kind of like, I don't know, like getting hamstrung on a golf course where your family's watching you play. There's so much resentment and reasons for hatred and sadness and
disgust. But Nolte gets us through this entire movie as a solid, if not incredibly flawed, human being. His performance should have earned him an Oscar. It's that good? Oh, yeah. I. Look, I don't have football feelings. I've made that clear. But my God, do I love
North Dallas 40. It clarifies that even when your heroes are human and they're doing the best they can to get by and they get to get along and to get over, and in that respect, respect, North Dallas 40 affirms everyone's desire to be great, even if it rolls around in the muck and the pig shit to get there. Great, great movie. Oh, that one scene between Joe Bob and John Matusik's character when he's literally just patting him on the shoulder pads, you know, just come on, we gotta get in there.
And it's just. It's just that that exchange between is so incredibly intense. People might look at it as a throwaway, but for me, it's like just the sheer intensity and the build up. And as you said, preparing for battle. And I think it says a lot, too, about male emotions and how men are expected to behave and process situations because they don't have any choice but to, I don't know, man up. Which is kind of a lousy way to say it, but, you know,
tuck it in. You get out there and you do it, and that is it. Your support system is situational, conditional on how the team reacts and how the team plays. Oh, it's just, it's. It's almost chilling. God, I love that sequence. Oh, I know. It's. There is, like I said, there's a quiet intensity to the whole locker
room scene. It's. You can just. You can. The tension is so palpable when they're trying to get themselves their heads in the game and when the wide receiver decides that he wants to play and takes the shots for me, that broke me. He was so steadfast against drugging himself up so he wouldn't, you know, completely destroy his body. And for glory of game coach telling him, we really need you out there. After seeing Nick Nolte get that shot in the knee and he did it. That was.
That broke me. It just. I put my head down. I've seen this movie so many times, but still, that is such one of the many intense moments in that sequence. Agreed. Just incredible. So I guess this is how we do this. Now, if we were going to rate North Dallas 40 from. Well, it's football, so I guess from three to seven, is this a full touchdown or a field goal? Oh, God, it's a full touchdown. It's. It hits everything in it. It doesn't soften the blow. It's not
pretty. It's dirty. You almost need to go hit the locker room and take a shower after you watch it. I'm in agreement with that. Full, full touchdown. Perhaps a sweep of a series. Just. What a great movie. I cannot recommend it highly enough. The only reason I've only seen it a couple of times is because of my unfamiliarity with football. But once I sat down and watched it, you know, a few days ago as a mature adult who's, you know, let's be honest, we've been through some shit at this point
in our lives. North Dallas 40 really resonates. And if you've not seen it, you really need to give that thing a watch and be prepared to be blown away on an emotional level. It's not just your good old boys playing ball sort of movie. It's really good. We're going to take us a break and we're going to come back and talk about another movie, which I don't think we liked nearly as much. And the Armadillos head for the locker room, trailing by only three
touchdowns. We hope you stay with us for our half time extravaganza as your Texas State marching band presents their tribute to gun racks and open beverage containers, which is only legal in Texas. We've been experiencing a brief kerfuffle here. Apparently I sent a message about changing necessary roughness to semi tough. So I've seen semi tough before, but I have a page full of notes on necessary roughness. So I want to do a little brief bit on necessary roughness. X has also watched it.
He's going to give us a few of his thoughts as well. And then we're going to slide ever so gracefully into semi tough so necessary roughness. 1991 NCAA sanctions team pretty much gets the death penalty. Everybody's out and they bring in an aging quarterback who, blah blah blah, eligibility, blah, blah blah, great cast, which is completely wasted on this piece of horror shape film. It's just, I'll be honest, with a cast like this, you've got Robert Lojo, you've got Hector Elizondo.
I didn't even recognize Jason Bateman in this. Scott Bakula, who always. Scott Bakula has acted himself into a corner. He's got no range. He's good at what he does. But this is where we sit. Sinbad was wasted. I could watch Hector Elizondo and Robert Loja fold shirts and be happy because they're just too very great actors. I'm glad they didn't go. They went out the season, blah, blah, blah, bullshit. Because, hey, we all know that is never, ever going to happen.
It's just generic to me, the two people that steal the show for me, and I know actually going to have a lot to say about this, too, is Larry David. This guy is the smarmiest fucker ever. He is the just, he is just the perfect smug asshole. And the other one, even though I don't like him, Rob Schneider, who is the announcer for the play by play announcer for the team. He's a lot more laid back, but he's got some pretty humorous moments.
Necessary roughness is just an unnecessary watch. And those are my, that's my two cent. Damn. Talk about, talk about damning with faint praise. I mean, look, I don't, I don't hate necessary roughness, but I don't like it. It is because what you have to do to get any ounce of enjoyment out of necessary roughness is understand how sports movies generally work. Underdogs will not remain underdogs. Unlikely romances will pop up. The bad guy is usually a member of the head office or one of the brass.
There's going to be a loophole in the rules that will benefit the rag tag group of misfits. And in most cases, the teams will improve and grab a big victory and you get all of that unnecessary roughness and you can figure the whole thing out in the first 510 minutes. So what matters in a movie? Like, yeah, I mean, at least by the end of the first act, if you're, if you're a little bit dense, you know, it might take you a good 2025 minutes, be like, oh, shit. Wow, I didn't see that coming.
Fuck you. Yes, you did. Jesus. Heaven cries if you saw, if you've seen any movie, you know how this is going to turn out. But again, the cast is great. Yeah, Scott Bakula is. He's. He's Scott Bakula, and that's pretty much all he is. But in this movie, he's, you know, he's gruff enough. He gets to drop an f bomb in front of the alumni. So it's fine. Robert Loggia is here, and he's got that voice. And Hector Elizondo is just calm and
unruffled. But again, we were talking about Larry. You were talking about Larry Miller, and I believe. I believe that. I don't know. Do you say Larry David? I thought I said Larry Miller. And I said Larry David. I have a feeling it. Well, we all know who I'm talking about. Well, we're going to clarify that right now. Larry David is not a necessary roughness, but Larry Miller is.
And I do believe that whenever we discuss Larry Miller from now on, we should just use the phrase national treasure Larry Miller, because that man is the king of bureaucratic leather chair bound bad guys who follow the rules pedantically and to their own demise. He's amazing. I think you're right about Rob Schneider. Too young Rob Schneider with a big head full of black hair, doing his best. Bob Euchre. That was all right. I still like. I just love seeing Fred Dalton Thompson in
anything. I'm a Tennessee boy. He's a Tennessee guy. And just to see him on screen without saying, stack them, pack him and rack him, love it. I just think necessary roughness is great for a person like me, who has no fucks to give about football, because it's. It's vague. Like you said, it's generic. I mean, yeah, the players say stuff like, I don't know, blue 42, whatever the fuck that means. But that's just lingo, you know. Necessary roughness is good guys versus bad
guys. There's an obligatory bar fight because of course there is. And it's just like bubbly fun. It's a movie that you can put on while you're, you know, doing dishes or giving yourself an enema. And it's fine. It's just background noise. So it is necessary roughness is background noise. That was very good to see Fred Dalton Thompson. He's literally in the movie. You're right about, what, three minutes? Three or four minutes? Yeah, that's about it.
He's in there in the beginning offering him the job. He's there at the end firing Larry Miller. That's your friend Dalton Thompson, folks. And he is amazing in everything he's in. Absolutely. Absolutely. Agreed. He may be one of the only things that elevates necessary roughness up off of the Astroturf. And yes, I will make my correction. Yes. I think I said Larry David. I meant Larry Miller. I wrote down Larry Miller. For some reason, Larry David got stuck
in my head and that's really not a good place. It's okay. At least you didn't say David Miller, because I don't know who that is. My cousin. Yeah. Huh. Was he. Was he unnecessary roughness? No. Okay. Well, then we're cool. Yeah. Yes. All right, let me see. How do they slide gracefully into semi tough? You have to imagine me putting on a ball gown and sensible shoes and waltzing across a wooden parquet floor into the waiting arms of Chris Christopherson.
This here is a movie about the second most important thing in the world, football. And also about the first most important thing. It's called semi tough. You don't come near me till you brush your teeth. It stars Burt Reynolds as Billy Clyde Puckett, a running back who lives for just two things. One of them is football. You don't give up, do you? Oh, you wouldn't like me. Chris Christofferson is shake Tiller, a wide receiver with great hands and beautiful,
beautiful moves. Jill Clayberg is Barbara Jane Bookman. Her daddy owns the team and she plays with them. It don't look right. My daughter living with two of my players. I'm not sleeping with him, Daddy. That's what I mean. Ain't normal. Now they're all playing together in semi tough. Okay, guys, I get em. You got me. The story of two guys, a girl and a football, and all the wonderful people they meet on the way to the Super Bowl. TJ, you pull that girl back, you hear? We got a
big game Sunday. Their spiritual advisor. Why can't we go to the bathroom if we have to? Because you can't. The men who inspire them. Time was, this country was pure. There was people you could look up to. Lombardy, MacArthur, J. Edgar Hoover and the. Women who admire them. How could we have so much fun? Try to not end up bed together. It's all about passes, but not the kind you throw. It's all about scoring, but not on the field. Are you kinky?
Those ain't mine. It's all about the world's greatest game, and it sure ain't football. Leave on the underwear. Semi tough, starring Burt Reynolds, Chris Christopherson, Jill Claiborne and Robert Preston has big ed from different jokes, from different folks. When you're semi tough. It don't matter if you win or lose, just as long as you score. Semi tough. 1977, also a football movie with, of course, Christus. Hi. The guy. I just said his name. Chris Christopherson.
Jesus Christ. Christ. Why is that so difficult? It's like saying Kris Kringle was in this movie. It's just too many K's, too many f's. I don't know. Chris Christopherson's here. Jill Clayberg is here. I don't know. She's. She's better than this movie, that's for sure. Also directed by Michael Richie. Michael Ritchie did a lot of great stuff in this seventies, God's hand in the eighties. I mean, Brav did the golden child, and he did the first Fletch
movie. And just all kind of prime cut, just all kinds of great stuff that Michael Ritchie did, which makes this movie feel like sort of a. What am I looking for here? He's, um. He's slumming. He is slumming in this movie. Absolutely. I mean, I don't know how you go from a underrated comedy classic like the survivors with Walter Matthau and Robin Williams, or the bad news bears, for crying out loud. Or even if you go back real far, you'll find out that he directed the candidate.
Oh, my God. The candidate with Robert Redford. What a fantastic movie. Oh, he's totally slumming in this, then. Yeah, those are all action heavy, you know, content heavy. This is not meaning heavy, and this is terrible. Here's. Okay, do you want to talk about this first, or do you want me to. You go. Okay. I misread the times. I haven't watched it in two, three years. It's okay. Semi tough is a mean spirited bait and switch. This is not a football movie.
It's a comparative religions movie. It's about self improvement schemes and belief systems, which would have been fine if I hadn't been expecting a football movie. Instead, it's a standard 1970s Burt Reynolds comedy where he. He giggles and he. He mustaches, which is an action verb now. And he just berts all over everything. And we're supposed to think it's funny. It's not funny. It's cruel to. There's some football,
and the scenes involving the team are pretty funny. Ron Silver, as a non english speaking place kicker is really fun to watch, but that's not the main plot. Here's the main plot, and I'm fucking. It's a 47 year old movie. If you ain't seen it by now, not my fucking fault. This movie is about Burt Reynolds pretending to be an adherent to his best friends, Kris Kristofferson, to his spiritual alignment so that he can steal Christofferson's
fiance, Jill Clayberg. And they've both been friends with this woman since they were kids. So it's a romance, sort of. And it's cute, albeit demented. And it's just a really hard watch. I don't know how we're supposed, supposed to like Burt's character when he spends more than half of the movie betraying his good buddy. He's a scam artist and a jerk. And the feel good ending is tacked on, and it doesn't feel good at all. It's a feel
slimy and gross ending. It's a, it's a scrub your balls with Brillo in the shower ending. Now this is, after all the racial slurs that you expect from a Sobeys movie, including a scene where Reynolds makes fun of Mary Jo Catlett for being a big woman before taking her back to his room for what I can only assume is a pity fuck. Now, first of all, don't you ever, ever make fun of, of Mary Jo Catlett. That woman is a wonder. And secondly, don't treat women like garbage and then
try to get them into your bed. That's lowbrow, that's shitty, and I do not respect that. Some of these health self help programs deserve a good lampooning. This movie makes fun of est, if you remember that from the seventies and, and the human potential movement and other self actualization sects that were popular back then. You don't remember Est. I remember Est was led by a guy named Werner Erhardt, and his whole thing was, you need to experience things in a natural and
organic fashion. So he would charge people an exorbitant amount of money, herd them all into a hotel banquet room for a weekend, lock the doors, yell at them, call everyone in their assholes, and refuse to let them use the bathroom. I am not kidding. I wish I were. Yeah, it's like, you're a terrible person. You need to break down the terrible person that you are and also. So just go ahead and piss your pants. Go ahead. It's fine. It's fine. Oh, the seventies were such a weird
friggin time. But the issue for me is that semi tough is not the vehicle for this sort of insightful, if you will, parody. You want a movie that did it right, you go look at serial from 1979, the Nora Ephron movie that properly makes fun of the Orange County, California scene. Back in the day of hot tubs and wife swapping and new age religions and Martin Mall and what a fun movie that is. That's the correct setting for a parody like this.
You don't use a football team, and definitely not one with Burt Reynolds. So semi tough is not a rom.com, it's not a dramedy, and it sure as hell in a football movie. It's a. It's a. It's a mess is what it is. And don't even get me started on Jill Kleberg's awful Texas accent. My God, it hurt my ears. Stay away from this movie. It wasn't good then, it ain't good now. It's just. No, no, no. Nope. Okay. Like I said, it's been a couple of years since I've seen this because
I totally suck. Human, apparently. Oh, no, I think you're sanctified for not watching this recently. You know, for me, this is why this movie is never stuck in my head, which is why, you know, it's just one. I would, oh, well, I haven't seen this in a while, and I watch it, and I literally walk away from the movie with nothing. It leaves me feeling nothing. This whole, it's. It's. It's football light. It's not. It really has nothing
to do with football. It has to do with friendship. And I swear to God, I would call the whole triangle between Chris Christopherson, Burt Reynolds and Joel Kleber. Were they a throuple? Were they pop? Was it a polyamorous relationship? Because I just found their dynamic weird. It wasn't even that. It was plutonic. It was platonic until Kris Kristofferson popped the question to Jill Clayburg,
which left Burt Reynolds on the outs. So he was like, well, hell, I guess I need to lie my way into her pants. Yeah. And that just out of, you know, sportsmen trying to just, you know, get in there, you know, it's just, there is. There's very little that ever to take away from this movie. It's for me, after I watch it, I really, once again, it literally leaves my head the second it's over. There's no substance. There is no compelling character. It's just watered down
bullshit. I remember. And once again, for me, it's the supporting characters that are. I do remember Ron Silver because I think he's the only character that actually stood out in the entire thing. But it's just not. It's. It's empty. It's the only thing that I've ever come away from that movie. And I have tried to watch this movie several times. It is empty. It is devoid of any concept of hearts. They're just terrible people trying to one up each other. And it's lame.
It's lame. It's just. It's. It doesn't even deserve the title of generic because generic has to resemble something. There's nothing here. It is empty. And that's all I can put together. I wish I felt nothing after watching this. But semi tough is like cotton candy that tastes like a moxicillin. There's nothing there. It might make you feel better for a minute just because you get a giggle out of it. It might not. I didn't laugh the entire time. I just.
I was mad. I was mad the whole time I was watching. I was like, when will this fucking end? I have to piss like a horse. And this movie is not letting me do that because I have to watch this. Oh, I hated it. I hated it. I hated it. So I guess if we're going to go from a scale of three to seven, this is what they call it in football when you lose yards and. You have to fall back pretty much. This is third and 40 on the. On your own one. Is that bad? That's very, very, very bad.
It's like the first play of the game and you punt. This is a safety for the other team. Oh, my gosh. Okay. Yeah, we don't like this movie. So there you go. I'm sure Gary likes it. I'm sure Gary has something wonderful to say about this we didn't even think of. It's going to make me feel like garbage and going to be sad for the next 48 hours. I'm going to punish myself and watch this. But let's be honest. No, I'm not. No, you're not.
I encourage you not to. I mean, I will venmo you $5 to never watch this movie again. I will donate to your patreon because you did watch it, which I'm going to do tomorrow. That's. That's kind. That is sweet of you. Gosh, you know, we talk. We talk about, I don't know, how we can help each other and charities and stuff like that, and all this terrible thing happened. There's not really a support system for people
who've had to watch semi tough like the Red Cross doesn't care. They're not going to send you a blanket because you watched Burt Reynolds strap a urination device to his cock and put the reservoir in his sock or down his boot. You know, emotional support. Honey Badger. Yeah, I can't call. I can't call, you know, a mental health resource and be like, look, I'm having a really hard time. I just watched fucking semi tough, and. And I don't know what to do with myself. It's just.
It's just not that important. But from a film lover's standpoint, that's an atrocity. You know, usually I can find some even. There's a handful of movies that I really can find no good out of. And this, like I said, I haven't watched it for a few years, but I never. It's not one of those movies. It left me feeling anything. It was over. It was over. It immediately went out of my mind. It meant nothing to me. It didn't give. It didn't have a message. It didn't have.
It didn't have anything worthwhile in it for me. So. So let's do this. Since we have dropped trial and shat all over. Semi tough, throwing this at you. Kind of. Kind of, you know, from left field. What is your favorite Burt Reynolds movie? You have to have one. Oh, God, yes. There's. There's two, but they're on completely different ends of the spectrum. Good. I grew up in love with Trans Ams because of Smokey and the Bandit. I love Smokey and the Bandit. It's just
goofball off the wall. I laugh my ass off. I sing every song. When I get really irritated with people at the bar, I just completely. I will start playing eastbound and down, over and over and over until they leave. If I play that. If I play that song for Cootie, she gets mad at me. And she doesn't get mad at me often, but she's like, God damn it, it's gonna be stuck in my head for a year. Well, you have that song with Cootie. I play Sister Christian. My husband wants to fucking kill
me. He hates it with a passion. Why, you're motoring. What's your time for flight, exactly? Finding Mister right. Come on. Oh, God. I don't. Don't make me get going down that path. That'll get ugly. You'll be all right tonight. Oh, God. And the other one, even though it's like I said, it was so controversial. It was actually in the hidden section at my mom and pop video store, is deliverance. It's a great movie. All anyone thinks of is one scene in that movie. But they're missing the
entire movie. It's a survival story. It is. It is. It is brutalist. They're in a harsh environment, struggling to live. Once again, amazing cast, mustache list. Burt Reynolds doesn't have anything to hide under. Well, except for that life vest. Yeah. But this was back when he was young and he filled out the life baths very well. But that movie is, it's, it's beautiful in its brutality. It doesn't pull any punches. But I miss, once again, a movie
from the seventies. The seventies. Favorite era of filmmaking. That will always be my favorite era. What are yours? Yeah, I have to agree with the seventies. The seventies I love ever so much, because there was a rawnesse there. It didn't feel as corporate as it does now. But my favorite, God, my favorite Burt Reynolds movie is 1979, something that came out 78. Close enough. It's the end. Have you seen that? Oh, with Dom Deluise? Yeah. Yes. That is my favorite Burt Reynolds movie.
It makes me laugh so hard, but it's so good. It's such a, like, it's got, yeah, it's got depth, it's got weight. And it has one of my favorite lines from any movie ever, where he takes all the pills with milk and then vomits, and he just says, it looks like Walt Disney threw up. Holy gods, I've used that one so many times, it cracks me up so hard. But yeah, what a fantastic that is in, in my mind, that is the best Burt Reynolds movie that he ever made. Bless him.
So. Oh, God. Yeah. I have to admit, I haven't, I have not thought of that movie in a long time. I remember watching it several times times, and it's, it's literally parody on death. And they, once again, he always, for me, I like the way that he acted with Don DeLuise. They had just this really great rapport. With each other, even, even in garbage movies like the cannonball run or was it, what, Captain Midnight or whatever. What a piece of. Yeah, just stupid, but I
don't know, the end. And, yeah, Reynolds from DeLuise had a great relationship. They had a great working relationship. And I just, I just love that movie. And no one talks about it. I haven't seen any, I don't know, deep dives into the end. Giggity. But it's worth watching. It's worth seeing. Oh, it definitely is. I honestly, until you said it, I haven't thought of it in a long time. And guess what? I'm gonna be pulling up in the next
couple of days. I hope so. I think, I think you'll still enjoy it. I think I will. I watched it once again a couple of years ago, actually. I think I watched around the time Burr Reynolds died because I went and just deep dove into all of his movies and I was watching and I'm like, oh God, I forgot how much I enjoyed this. And it just put a, just a different spin on things and yeah, we're gonna have to figure out a way to fucking work that into something.
Everybody needs to see that. I agree entirely. So I don't know exactly how to end this show. So let's do this. Do you have anything that you, you want to plug or talk about or just, I don't know, just discuss? I enjoyed, I enjoyed this podcast very much. This is where you will find me. I am writing again, which is kind of scary. No, it's not. And I'm happy. It's actually, it's helping. It's awesome. It's awesome. I know, I do too. But it's awesome that you're running again.
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