The Bright Side Birth Chart with Chani Nicholas

Today on the bright Side, astrologer Channy Nicholas reads our show's birth chart. Whether you're a true believer like Danielle or a bit of a skeptic like you girl, I promise you'll learn something.

Plus Channy tells us what's written in the stars for the show, For us and of course for.

You, the bright side is always that we have each other, right. The bright side is that the myth of individualism, we'll kill you literally, and that if we remember that we are a collective, remember that we are not alone, which is what happens when you are honest with your story, then we remember that we get through this only together.

It's Wednesday, March twenty seventh. I'm Simone Boyce.

I'm Danielle Robe and this is the bright side from Hello Sunshine. Okay, Simon, I recently came across this photo of model Emily Radikowski and she posted on Instagram a photo of her divorce ring. Before we get into her divorce ring and divorce rings in general, do you remember her engagement ring?

I don't. Can you refresh my memory?

Okay, I'm gonna say this wrong, but if anybody speaks French, let me know what it really sounds like she popularized the tooi Etois engagement ring, which basically is two stones together on one band. First of all, this ring left a mark on the industry. I'm not even a ring person, and I remember this ring. But now that she's divorced, she separated the stone. So I think there's symbolism for her and that it's sort of like the engagement ring. Said I do, and then this one says, I don't.

I love this trend because I think it's so empowering for women who are moving through divorce. It's a way to take that experience that can be heartbreaking and incredibly painful and own it and also get two rings out of it.

Hey, she was like, I am not going to let losing a man. She said this to Fokes. She said, I'm not going to let losing a man get rid of my gems. And I agree with you. I think divorce is so brutal, especially when there's kids involved and she has a child, that it's like, whatever empowers you. I love it, But I do think there's symbolism and jewelry, and so I don't know if I would personally want to do this because it would still remind me of my ex.

Even if you separated them out. Yeah, even if it was two separate stones.

I think, like not to get so woo woo, but I feel like it would carry the energy of that relationship of that man and I.

Diamond would literally carry the energy. No, not litterally, his spirit. I wouldn't say that, but no figuratively.

And I just I'm kind of like, if you bought me anything and we're not together anymore, I'm selling it on eBay.

Yeah, it's hard to I think it's hard to say what I would do in that moment. I also have never owned a ring that large. I don't know what the price tag would be if I sold it on eBay. But I think you have to tell our right side besties what you just told me, which is that you might not even wear a ring when you get engaged. Yeah.

I don't think I want a ring. I do hope to be married. I'm thirty three. I hope to be married at some point in the next six years. Maybe that would be nice, But I've never cared about rings. All my friends say to me, like, you don't care until you get engaged and then you want to ring.

I think I would feel I would feel so naked if I didn't have my ring. Also, it's a great man repellent whenever you go out to a bar and you want to just fend off all the f boys. You know what I'm saying. There is symbolism in our culture. You're right.

Yeah, Well, I guess we decided on nothing in this segment except for that this is a rich person problem.

Maybe I'm for it. I'm pro divorce ring.

I'm convinced that I need to do some research. Another thing I'm convinced about is that you can do your whole face of makeup from a drug store.

Have you ever tried it? I'm really good at doing a full car beat, Like I will do the full beat in the car. I'll do a MANI petty in the car. Well, yeah, with the whole wax paraffin bathtub. Don't not start with me. I can't even do that in my home. Have you ever done a full face of drug store makeup?

Hell? Yeah?

I actually love the drug store.

So the Today Show has been doing this series where they interview celebs about their favorite drug store buys, and I'm like, I want to see if any of these celebs products match up with mine? Yeah, so tell me if any of them match up with you. Kristin Chenowiz says she loves the Nivia lip bomb in Pink Shimmer.

Wait, I'm writing this down. Yeah, we should put.

A list out of our own as well on social Okay. Brooks Shields is a fan of Sally Hansen's wax strips. Aaron Andrews uses cris White strips. She says she's a coffee drinker and a wine drinker, So girl, same, and I'm about to give you some of mine.

Okay, I'm writing down.

First of all, Brooks Shields with the wax strips, don't make fun of me. Have you ever tried the nose wax equipment that's in the drug store is unbelievable.

I can't say that I have my friend you.

Lisa Bermudez is a a beauty blogger and she put me on and I will never be the same. There's like these white little sticks you dip into wax that you put in the microwave for two minutes. You stick them up your nose and you're good for like three weeks.

What is the pain level here? Yeah?

One through ten? I'd say six and a half. It's wordy to me. Okay, Loriel voluminous mess Scarra yes, eight ninety nine agree rivals, Chanel Door. Don't tell me you're buying an expensive mass scao when this exists. Smash smash, Okay, name a better lotion than Palmer's Cocoa butter for eight dollars.

Nope, No, I just I'm laughing because I just love how black. That answer was like, like, you can come to the cookout, Danielle. You're invited to the cookout. Thank you. Okay, back to products anything Bert's Bees. Do you like Burt's Bees?

Yeah?

Yeah, I like a good chapstick.

And then the rock Barrier am moisturizer. It's kind of like a secret weapon. It's EIGHTPF thirty and if you're in a jam, it's really good.

Nice. Yeah, you want to hear mine? Duh? Okay, okay, so I swear by Maybelene's brow liner brow pencil. How do you know which color you are? Soft brown? Okay, well, okay, soft brown is my color, but I typically go one to one shade lighter than my actual brow color because if you go the same exact shade then it just looks too heavy and fake. That's a good tip. Yeah. This so the Mabelene brow pencil. It's a slim brow pencil and I love it because it has a really

Trying so hard not to laugh into the microphone and piss everybody off that's listening.

But oh my god, wait, I know Vasilyn is controversial nowadays because it's like made from petroya and jelly or whatever. But it's the best. It's legendary. But what do you mean everywhere? Like on your face? No? I mean okay, So if I use retin all at night and sometimes I'll get areas of sensitivity or redness like around under the eyes or lips, and I'll put the vasoline on there because it's great for wounds and healing, Okay, and

After the break, the stars have aligned in Los Angeles Today we have a very special guest here in studio to tell us what the heavens have in store for the coming weeks.

Don't go anywhere, We'll be right back back. We're back, y'all. I'm Simone Boye. If you like me, don't know your ascendance from your aspects, don't worry. Astrologer Channy Nicholas is one of the world's leading experts and best translators on the subject.

She's the author of the New York Times bestseller You Were Born for This Astrology for Radical self acceptance, and she's here to give us a cosmic breakdown of what our podcast birth chart means. Welcome to the bright Side, Channey. We're so excited to have.

You Channy, thanks for joining us.

Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to be here.

So you have been an astrologer for more than two decades?

Is that true?

It's true. I checked, Okay, got check check.

But you know there's no college major you can't like enroll in astrology school necessarily, So I'm so curious how you got into this.

I got into it because my dad's third wife, mom was a reiki master, and all of her friends were astrologers and psychics. And when I was twelve years old, she sent me and the whole family to get like a group of astrology reading and I just felt like I knew what this woman was talking about, and she was talking a language that was mine, but no one had ever spoken to me in before, and so I was just like immediately enraptured.

So interesting because that familiarity, I think is what scares people about astrology. They don't feel like they understand the language.

Usually. Yeah, I have to be honest, I'm one of those people that's like, I'm not scared of it. I wouldn't say I'm scared of it. I think I'm skeptical of it. Yeah, great, I think that the key to happiness is having an internal locus of control, so focusing on the things that you can control. And when I think of astrology, it feels like an ideology that is, where you're ruled by something that's outside of your control.

I just want everyone to know that Simona is an Aquarius. So yes, but I love that for you.

Do am I acting like an Aquarius right now? Am I being hyperlogical and practical? Maybe? Yeah, I mean it's great, I love it. But let me say here's the caveat I identify as an Aquarius when I look at the traits. When I look at the traits of an Aquarius, I'm like, that's me. And also Oprah's an Aquarius, so of course I'm going to claim it. But but you're not only an Aquarius. You're also Capricorn rising, so you're doubly ruled

And your Sun sign and your mercury. You also have a very very very strong mercury planet of communication also in Aquarius. And so that is like, give me the facts, give me the data, scientists, But I.

Feel like you're trying to solve for randomness, and it's like almost a it's an illusion of control.

Well, this gets into a whole like, oh, yeah, we can free destination, self determination conversation that's just been going on for thousands of years, right, astrology, right, and religion. But can we talk about that for a moment, Like, if you subscribe to astrology, to me, it feels like you're letting go of a lot of agency. How come because you are your life path or your movements are

I mean I am a fiercely independent, like almost fairal human being. I do not like to be controlled by anything or anyone. Yeah, almost like to my own demise in most cases. So I don't feel controlled by the astrology at all. I feel enlightened by it, okay, And I feel like it is a language and it's something that has I have communication with okay. So it's like it's like being with somebody who has gone down the road I'm going down and they're like, Okay, well there's

No?

But I don't have to like fall into it, and like I don't have to be like balancing seventeen cups as I go towards it. Okay, I could be like, Okay, well I'm gonna be a little.

Bit more prepared for it. That makes sense.

And also I don't know how it's going to roll out, but I know it's probably going to be a bumpy little section of my journey. Yeah, but I'm not controlled by that. I'm just made more aware. It's kind of like a weather report, ah okay.

You know, like if you're like.

Wow, that weather person's always you know, predicting this thing and they're always wrong, then why would I listen to you. Astrology is not a system of confirmation bias for me. It's a system of insight for me, and it works, and that's why I use it.

So like I sit.

Down with strangers and I just start talking about their chart before they've said anything to me, I don't know anything about them. Yeah, and they feel witnessed by me.

They feel seen.

Yeah, but it's not me. It's the technology of the system itself. So I just think that technology of it works, and so I work with it. But if it wasn't something I could depend on, I wouldn't mess with it.

Okay, So before we jump in, can you tell everybody what a birth chart even is.

So a birth chart you can do for anything. For any time you say, let's do this thing, that's there's a birth chart. Like if I ask you out for coffee, there's a chart for that. Like anyway, yeah, yeah, yeah, any the US meeting, like the moment we met was, there's.

A chart for that. Stop.

Yeah, there's a chart every moment in time. You just take a snapshot. You take a snapshot of the sky, and then that means something to astrologer. So all astrology is skeptics, She got very excited.

No, but I'm a half skeptic. I like I said, I believe I'm an Aquarius. Everything that she said, I can't deny it, and that I can't deny that I am that person.

Yeah, so everything. The only thing astrology is it's not even I don't even know if it's spiritual. What astrology is is it tells you the quality of time that you're in. It tells you the quality of time that you are an amulet of What does that word mean? An amulet is like it's almost like a rain barrow, Like it's catching a moment and time in this case, right, if you make an amulet, you're making it because the setting is right and you want to capture the energy

Like a vessel.

Yeah, it's like a mirror image of it. So the sky, if you in terms of like what is an astrological philosophy, the sky is a mirror image of who we are, what we are, what we're going through.

So how does it inform who we are? How we show up?

It can be used as a mirror, right, So it can be used to you can ask me a question about your life and I can look I can look into any area of your life because of the way in which it works, So it can tell me any You can tell me about different people in your life, like not even you. It tells me something about your destiny. It tells me something about your fate.

That sounds weighty. I know, isn't It sounds very weighty. I don't know about this.

But you were born in a time in a country that has a fate to it.

I'm even nervous to ask you this, But what does the Brightside's birth chart say about this show's fate?

This is an eclipse baby, which means this anything born on an eclipse, A person, a situation, a business, or whatever is going to bring through a surge of energy. It's going to be startling, it's going to be new, It's going to be kind of like a little bit of a friendly slap in the face.

Do this for us? This is us? Yeah, I just want to be slapped in the face. We are a friendly slap in the face personified.

You might also have the ability to like eclipse other things, right, so like your your presence in the world can do that, and or sometimes you could feel eclipsed. So there's that feeling of like are you being overshadowed? Are you overshadowing? There's that thing because during an eclipse, this one is a lunar eclipse. So it's the moon is being covered over by the shadow and then it turns bright red.

All I have to say is watch out podcasts. It's startling. Watch out. Yeah, and we're here, so we're slapping the face, we're eclipsing. You're an airy sun, which is bold. It's a brazen moment of like leadership. So this chart's identity is about leadership. It's about not asking questions, not even apologizing later. It's just about kind of we're gonna ask a lot of questions. So Channy, it's not oh wait, I meant not asking for permission. Okay, okay, I said that wrong.

God, asking for permission maybe not even saying sorry later. But you have a libra moon. You're born at the full moon. So the Libra moon is very friendly and very much about justice and equality, and there's a you have an excellent venus situation. So it's really good for women, it's really good for fems, it's really good for lgbt q i A folks, and it's making this aspect that's really quite like exciting and adventurous and expansive.

What you're saying is a huge part of our value system. Yeah, everything aligns good. It's very cool. You're getting me fired up right now. I'm like, ready, let's go. Okay.

Wait, So when you say an ari's sun, I'm curious as to the three main elements to look up for in a birth chart.

Right, it's sun, moon.

And ascendant. And so you have a Capricorn ascendant, which you have everything in Capricorn, and you also have in a Capricorn. This is a this is a heavy Apricornian situation.

Every time I've done a reading, they look at me and they're like, you're the most Capricorny, the most Capricorn, the.

Most You're also an eclipse, baby, Really, you were born and an eclipse. I didn't know that, like exactly. It's pretty rare to have that happen in a chart.

I love that for you like to have it so close.

So you also have so you resonate with the show's chart in a really deep way because you have that energy to you too, Like you have the kind of life where wild, weird things will all of a sudden happen to you, and like a turn of events will occur and all of a sudden you'll be like on this path and people be like, how does that happen to you?

Is that true for you?

Yeah, I mean you're gonna I'm gonna tell some stories as we go on with this show, but I get myself into very strange situations.

Yeah, it's like a very unexpected kind of quality and feeling to it. But it's also like buzzing because eclipses are things that happen where our energy source the sun or a source of life the moon gets eclipsed. So it's like if you're if we had a power outage or a power surge. So it's like weird and unstable, but it usually creates really interesting people.

I'll take it, thank you, ny an interesting podcast.

And also you have the same ascendant as the as the chart no Capricorn. Oh you boys have Capricorn ascendants and you have everything in Capricorn, so this is a very Capricornian vibe here. You also have the same venus as the show, which is Venus and Pisces. You have like one of the most gorgeous moon venus setups that one can have.

I'll talk about it in a second.

You want, but but gorgeous, gorgeous, but there's a there's a long lasting endurance quality to Capricorn. So this is not like a kind of like one and done situation, Like all three of you the show and the two of you want something long lasting, like you're here to put in the work. You'll be diligent, you'll be concise, you'll be like sticking to the rules. You'll be doing the thing chugging along, and you want it to work for a long period of time. And so there is

What does that mean for us?

I mean, well, it means that the life's direction of the show wants to go towards communicating. Well, that's what we should do right as we're host of a podcast. We're talkers, Okay, but I do think that you will talk about difficult subjects and I don't think that that's the nature of the show though.

No, it is. I mean I think of difficult subjects as nuance. Okay. I think another way to phrase it is nuance, and we want to get into nuance here.

I think it's really important for the show because there's a real like there's a there's an interesting thing that's happening with the ruler of the Ascendant, which is the planet that steers the life of this show, which is to say, it's bolstered by Venus, which is a planet of love and beauty and connection in a really good condition. But it's also sitting with Mars, which Whens and Saturn

Challenging conversations on the air for our audience, or challenging conversations with each other, like what is that? No, this is the show. This is the show.

The show wants to be able to tackle some hefty, weighty subjects. Okay, it's not just like it's got a libramon so it's super friendly and chatty and like can be really pretty and sparkly and lovely, but there's there's a need for some heft here.

I think that comes from both of us.

I feel a real attraction to like busting through stereotypes and talking to people that are a little bit complicated. Yeah, and I think you're you have a lot of depth.

Yeah, and audacity too, I think I would. Audacity is a word that I really want to reclaim, okay, because I feel like it has been misinterpreted and it's all about just like courage and boldness. Yes, K, you're seeing that in our show.

Yeah, We're gonna pause right there to take a short break. But when we come back, will Channy turn Simone into a true believer? Is that a yes or a no? Stay tuned to find out. Welcome back to the bright side.

Okay.

Do you think that based on the birth chart of the show and reading both my and Simone's birth chart, there are any goals that we should be shooting for individually or together.

Well?

You always have to feel creatively alive, like your creative energy is everything. Like if you worry or wonder or or you know, question anything in your life, I want you to always go back to creative pursuits, your creative energy. Maybe even children in your life. Do you have no, but I want them? I mean it's huge for you. Yeah, and in doing anything for kids, Like if you were to do any kind of like extra work on the side.

Or you wanted to give money or you wanted to give your time.

Anything for kids in youth, Yeah, would be so meaningful for your chart, or even reproductive rights or anything like that, like anything about conception, reproduction, children, youth and art. Like if you did something about kids and art or like theater, like all that kind of stuff.

Would the whole goal in life is to reach young girls.

Yeah, if you want to babysit my kids anytime, by the way, I've already often, I've already I.

Would give her my child because her chart she's so responsible, so playful, nice, she's.

Very responsible, very trustworthy. Yeah, anytime.

Yeah, okay, so stick to creativity. How about simone?

Hers is like oddly concentrated, right, so like everything goes there.

Yours is like work.

For sure, But also you have uch a blessing in the area of communication and writing, and it would be like a shame for you to not live that out, Like that's a hugely potent piece of your chart and anything to do with the creative process as it pertains to words, to rituals to like daily light like all

I'm sitting taller now. I'm just rest for you. Though. Yes, it does, it is. I think I am understanding that statement and also connecting that to what you mentioned about being in a pivot or some things that are happening for me creatively right now. Where that all aligns it makes sense. Good, good, good, Yeah.

And then the ruler of your ascendant is also Saturn. It's a very like function up kind of Saturn.

Like you're here to like be like, okay, we write it down exactly. I texted her that the other day exactly.

You're like, I want to know exactly how the system works so I can mess with it in the most efficient and seamless way.

That's exactly right.

So you're not going to come in and like be like, oh, just like a rebel without a cause. You're like, I have a cause, and I've I've studied the blueprints of this thing inside and out. I know exactly where I am, what I'm about to do, and why.

And now watch me it's so true. I got I think you're listening live to an astrology skeptic become a believer. Yes, welcome to the show, folks.

I have one more question about the chart. One of the things we're trying to do is build a really bright, sparkly, joyful community. And this is our first week, so we're bringing everybody in. I really feel like it's not just our show. It's a show for women by women, and I want everyone to feel like it's their show. Is there something about the show's chart that speaks to the community at large?

Yes, So if I look to the community in the chart, it's definitely the point at which, like the public receives your communal offering. The community is represented in your chart by Mars, that planet that is sitting with Saturn. So there's this connection between the charts, destiny and the public. And again it's like supported by a lot there's a

Nod for us. That's what we've been trying to a massage ut out. That's something that we've talked about because with a show that has a title like The bright Side, it's really easy to just go yeah, positivity, optimism, joy, everything. But that's not what life looks like. Life is messy, and so we are trying to be mindful of finding those moments where we can talk about the messiness and be honest about it.

Every time I see gloriou Steinem speak in person, she says, the most feminist thing you could do is share your honest stories with other women.

Yeah, she's in aries too.

I don't know what that means.

Well, I mean she's a fighter. A fighter, so you have a chart of a fighter. Yeah, Like there's that Nee need to blaze a trail, to go head first, to risk your own comfort and sometimes safety, in order to do the thing that you feel inspired to do and that one must go do.

I think we have to embody that because I think our goal is to share the honest, real story.

Yeah, and the bright side is always that we have each other, right. The bright side is that the myth of individualism will kill you literally, and that if we remember that we are a collective, remember that we are not alone, which is what happens when you are honest with your story, then we remember that we get through this only together. And I think the moon in this chart does speak to that because it is about relationships, It is being connected with others.

Tanny, incorporating all the knowledge that you just imbued us with about our charts, can you give us an affirmation for our show that we can keep in mind moving forward. Oh my gosh, we're really putting.

You on I know, right, Yeah, an affirmation for the show. I think what I was going to say is like I use my energy to serve something greater than myself. That I am not taken off course by interruptions and by life being life, but I am committed to a long term process of moving towards something that is equitable and fair and just a world that is considerate of all that are in it.

So we're wrapping up March and going into April. What are the major astrological events that listeners should be mindful of?

Man, I mean, April's a tough month.

Don't say that, can I be honest? I never hear someone who's into astrology say that things are going great. It's always no. I know, I know it's always mercuries in retrograde that there's always something bad happening.

Because you know why, because fear on the internet. Okay, So there's really beautiful things happening in April. There's just a really tough eclipse on April eighth. It's a time where I think it might be a little rumbly and bumpy for the world. But there's something gorgeous happening. Okay, So yes, for your listeners, Okay, for your listeners. There is a gorgeous conjunction of Jupiter and Uranus that is happening in Tauris, and it hasn't happened since the forties.

New sector of the workforce.

The last time we had it, one of the archetypes that came through was like Rosie the Riffeter, and so it was like women going into the workforce in a way and folks of color going into the workforce in a way. But it was a huge change in the ways in which we thought of like work and who can do it?

This was really cool. Thank you. I feel like you staged our space.

Thank you for bringing this to Thank you so much for having me.

Thank you so much.

Channy Simon was our conversation with Channy enough time for you to become an astrology believer.

I don't know. Believe is a strong word. It's a strong word, Danielle, come on, but I had a lot of fun with you today. Before we close out the episode, we have a little spark of brightness. Our key takeaway from our conversation with Channy that we want to share, and that is astrology is one tool that can unlock the blueprint for your potential. Whatever tool you choose, we empower you to pursue your life's purpose undaunted.

If you're like me and you want a little more from Channy, check out her app. It's called Channy and you can find it wherever you get apps. Tomorrow, we'll test our red Flag Radar with dating coach and the host of the Do the Work podcast Sabrina Zohar.

You don't want to miss it.

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