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Poppin’ Off with Amanda Kloots

Sep 27, 202438 minEp. 135
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Danielle and Simone discuss this week’s pop culture stories with Amanda Kloots, co-host of “The Talk” and moderator on Live from the Other Side with Tyler Henry. What’s the best way to connect with your child-free friends? And is sharing gum with your partner hot or not? Simone, Danielle, and Amanda weigh in.

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Speaker 1

Hey fam, Hello Sunshine. Today on the bright Side, we're popping off and dishing on the biggest pop culture stories of the week, Which celebrity shared gum with their partner upon first meeting, and we're diving into the internet's hottest debate, the best way to connect with your child free friends. Amanda Klutz is heered a weigh in. She's the co host of the talk and a moderator on Live from the Other Side with Tyler Henry. It's Friday, September twenty seventh. I'm Danielle Robe.

Speaker 2

And I'm Simone Voice, and this is the bright Side from Hello Sunshine, a daily show where we come together to share women's stories, laugh, learn and brighten your day.

Speaker 3

Simone another great week of shows.

Speaker 2

Truly, our conversation with Connie Chung makes me wish I had Amuri. I'll never be over that conversation.

Speaker 1

She's just so iconic and she was hilarious and truly a trailblazer. Another trail blazer we sat down with was Laverne Cox, and she discussed the lessons she learned in Hollywood, from the struggles to the triumphs. She was super candid about everything, including the evolving beauty standards in Hollywood and what beauty means to her today.

Speaker 3

Did you have any other standouts?

Speaker 4

Yeah?

Speaker 2

I also really enjoyed talking about the seven principles of self reliance in the workplace with communications expert Maha abuelnine and I mean.

Speaker 1

Simone, the love of our lives, Natasha Rothwell, Oh my gosh, a dream. That was just an interview that hit my heart. I was thinking about her the whole rest of the day and I'll never forget how shook she was when we told her that Gail King raved about her new Hulu series.

Speaker 4

Like we broke news to.

Speaker 2

Natasha, we experienced the full range of emotions in that interview, laughter, tears, pride, it was. It was emotional and I was so here for it. And I'm also here for our conversation we're having today. Not only is it Friday, but we get to pop off and dish on the week's biggest moments in popc culture. But before we go there, it's time to spotlight our favorite moment of the week, brought to you by our friends at BMW, the Ultimate Electric driving Machine.

Speaker 1

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Speaker 2

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Speaker 3

Solo travel is so freeing.

Speaker 1

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Speaker 2

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Speaker 1

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Speaker 2

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Speaker 3

Yeah, that part.

Speaker 2

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Speaker 1

You want to enjoy the journey. Okay, this is a hypothetical. You're getting in the car right now to take a solo trip. No kids, no work, just you where you're going.

Speaker 2

I got a few thoughts. One of the best places in the US to travel by yourself has to be Sedona, Arizona. So I might head up that way and hit up Joshua Tree along the way, or I'd head north and go to Carmel by the Sea for a little R and R.

Speaker 4

How about you?

Speaker 1

Ooh, First of all, Sedona's one of my favorite places I've ever been. It's a perfect mix of mystical and magical. But since we're traveling solo, I won't go either of those places, even though I really want to see you.

Speaker 3

I think I'd send it a little further.

Speaker 1

I'll cueue up my longest playlist and go to Santa Fe, New Mexico, go see some beautiful art the Georgia O'Keeffe Museum and do a walking tour of the city. Or I'd head up the coast and drive to San fran or big sir.

Speaker 4

Ooh, both excellent choices.

Speaker 2

Okay, besides riding and style, what do you think is the best way to treat yourself on a solo trip?

Speaker 3

The treat is the trip? No, what about you?

Speaker 2

I mean a little spa never hurt ooh good call.

Speaker 3

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We've also got an exciting Hello Sunshine announcement to share with you, Best Siees.

Speaker 2

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We could definitely do it. I love how you pointed out Brunette. I'm thinking we're too old this. This needs to be a high school Ellwoods thanking our way out of the age range here. Oh my god, I didn't even think about that.

Speaker 1

I still think about my life on like semesters, so I mentally, I'm there.

Speaker 2

I'm still twenty eight in my mind, so I'm with you. We also want to shout out one of our past guests.

Speaker 4

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Speaker 2

We love her, the multi talented Mikayla j Rodriguez, because her new album thirty three, which we talked about in our conversation, is officially out in the world now, so go give it a listen wherever you get your music, and if you want to listen to our episode with her, we will link it in the show notes.

Speaker 1

Besties, Okay, Danielle, let's do it. It's sound to pop off, so ready. Joining us today is the co host of the Talk. She's also a moderator on the new Netflix series Live from the Other Side with Tyler Henry, and she's here with us now, Amanda Klutes.

Speaker 3

Welcome to the bright Side.

Speaker 5

Thanks guys, thanks for having me. I'm so happy to be here.

Speaker 4

It's so fun to have you in studio with us.

Speaker 2

You are a co host, yeah, the Emmy winning daytime talk show, The talk YEP, and we hear that every morning before you go on air, you have an extra peppy get ready routine.

Speaker 4

Will you share it with us? Yes? I do, well.

Speaker 6

I jump rope for ten minutes every day. And what I've just kind of started as my tradition at the talk is I do that, you know, right before hair and makeup at the talk. So it's just my way of like getting my body go in.

Speaker 4

Do you go in?

Speaker 6

And honestly, sometimes you guys, know, being busy ladies, that's my workout, Like that's all I get. So it's nice because when I do it and I realized, like I can't fit anything else in, I'm like, well, at least I did my ten minutes.

Speaker 4

Probably so good for the old brain, it is, Yeah.

Speaker 6

And just like having those ten minutes for myself because you know, I mean it's a lot of hair and makeup and outfit and styling and producers coming in telling you about the guest ba blah blah blah, and your brain.

Speaker 2

Is like Ah, it's pretty chill hosting a daytime show, right, so chill.

Speaker 4

Yes, okay.

Speaker 2

I also have something else that we have to ask you about. We just seed more context here. Oh okay, okay, So we recently saw you dressed up as a hot dog.

Speaker 4

Uh huh, yes, can you explain why?

Speaker 6

Yes, that was a segment we were doing on the talk about our first ever jobs. And one of my first jobs in high school was I was Frankie the Keener Wiener. I dressed up in this hot dog costom and would stand outside of my local supermarkets selling wieners. And I would also march through the aisles of the supermarket promoting them. Or I'd be in cars and parades around Canton, Ohio. So that was my first job. So they took me back to a hot dog stand on

Santa Monica and I relived my hot dog moment. And I have to say, you, guys, I got on that costume and I was like, it's going to be back.

Speaker 4

It's a vibe. It's a vibe in here.

Speaker 1

Yeah, good in here. I have a hard hitting question for you about this. Yeah, were people nice to you when you were living inside the hot dog costume in high school or were because some people are really rude to people in those outfits.

Speaker 6

Yes, most of the time people were actually very nice. I mean it is Canton, Ohio, so it's very Midwest town, and yeah, I got a lot of I would also be dancing out there.

Speaker 5

People liked me so sweet. I wouldn't see my face either.

Speaker 2

I respected you before, I have so much more respect for you now that I know this about you. I honestly thought my first job was pretty bad. I was a zombie cheerleader in a haunted cornways in Memphis, Tennessee, and I had to pop out of trash cans in the pitch dark and scare people.

Speaker 4

But I think, I think you take this on, Amanda mad Are.

Speaker 3

Sure well.

Speaker 1

My first job was dancing for barn bot Mitzvah's. I was like getting the party going.

Speaker 4

I did that too.

Speaker 6

That was one of my jobs during Broadway shows that I When I wasn't in a Broadway show, I was dancing at bar mitzvahs and bat mitzvahs in New York City, which some of them, as you can imagine, were bigger and better than weddings.

Speaker 3

Oh yeah, it's me.

Speaker 1

You and Tiffany Hattish that went around the bar and bot mitzvah circuit.

Speaker 4

Apparently that's hilarious. Okay, have we ever tried jumping rope as a hot dog? As a hot dog?

Speaker 6

No, I have not, actually, but I have no doubt that I could do it. I have jumped rope in point shoes, in heels. Of course, I can kick to my head while I'm jumping rope.

Speaker 4

You know, Okay, we know people at The Talk, We're going to make a call. I want to see this hot dog jumping rope competition rope.

Speaker 6

I did play the trumpet while I was a hot dog on that segment. Wow.

Speaker 1

Yeah, Okay, So before we start to pop off, we have to ask you about another series that you're a part of, because you're not just a co host on The Talk. You have a new Netflix show out which congratulations, that's so exciting.

Speaker 5

Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 3

It's called Live.

Speaker 1

From the Other Side with Tyler Henry. So for anyone who doesn't know, Tyler Henry is a twenty eight year old psychic medium and in the show, he connects with people who have passed on. I watched the episode with Krishelle and it was really moving. You've spent a lot of time with Tyler. Now I'm wondering if your intuition has been heightened at all.

Speaker 6

Well, you know, listen, I'm a Pisces and so I have good intuition already. I've always felt like I've had a strong intuision my entire life.

Speaker 4

But I will tell you that Tyler is.

Speaker 6

Just an extraordinarily amazing human being. He just vibes on a different level. He's an old soul and a young soul at the same time. He's the most genuine, kind, supportive, happy person. Everything he seems to be on camera in his shows is actually who he truly is. And it's been really awesome being able to sit next to him and witness what he does that close to him. It's really kind of inspiring and comforting and healing and all the things. Yeah, that's really great to hear. How many

goosebump moments. So many goosebump moments. I mean, I love when he surprises himself. That's one of my favorite things. Like he'll be saying something and then the guest will you know, be like yes, and he'll be like, oh, it's like crazy, you know, I mean, it's he's he's really gifted. He really truly does have a gift, and I think that anyone that gets to experience of reading from him is so lucky.

Speaker 1

Yeah, there's clips of him from past readings that he's given where things have come to fruition.

Speaker 3

He seems really gifted.

Speaker 6

Yeah, I mean it's extremely special to see, you know, the guests on our show react, you know, I mean it's getting I've been read now a couple of times, not by Tyler yet, but I remember the first time I ever went to a medium reading, I was so scared and nervous and I didn't really quite believe. So I was a bit of a skeptic as well, and you know, I grew up religious and so it was sort of always kind of not you know, accepted necessarily, and so I was really really timid. And I can

see that in some of our guests. But then how they open up to him and they start trusting him because of the information that he is receiving and delivering to them. It's so beautiful because we all have walls right around our grief, around our trauma, around things that we tell ourselves, and the walls just start coming down and then that trust is built with Tyler and then they open up and have these emotional breakthroughs and it's just really special to be there and see it.

Speaker 4

So everybody tune in live on Tuesdays.

Speaker 3

It's live.

Speaker 6

It's live. Yes, it's a live reading. No edits he's just going out there live and he does not know who he's reading. I don't even know who the guest is.

Speaker 3

Yeah, my god.

Speaker 1

Okay, well, let's get into the biggest stories of the week.

Speaker 4

Yeah, let's do it. Okay, y'all.

Speaker 2

I've got something to chew on and you'll see what I mean in a moment. So Kristen Bell was on the View this week and she confirmed a story that her husband Dak Sheche had previously shared.

Speaker 4

So here's a story.

Speaker 2

On their second meeting at a Detroit Red Wings game. He asked Kristen Bell if she had any gum, and she said no, just this, and she coyly took the gum out of her mouth, and then Dax took the gum that she had been chewing and put it in his own mouth.

Speaker 4

So clearly, is it okay?

Speaker 3

Why is it a great move that's so like take charge?

Speaker 1

First of all, I love someone that's not grossed out by anything. I have like a no gross meter. If I'm in a relationship with you, we're sharing everything, and so.

Speaker 4

I liar, liar.

Speaker 2

I am calling liar because I have talked about poop on this show.

Speaker 4

I don't know.

Speaker 3

We don't share toilets.

Speaker 1

That's the only thing I don't share, Okay, and we don't share stories of toilet talk.

Speaker 4

You do have a limit, so fun of it.

Speaker 1

I'll share popsicles, I'll share towels.

Speaker 3

I'll share like.

Speaker 1

If you're having ice cream and I want to lick, please give me some.

Speaker 2

See I'm super hypocritical because I will take someone's ice cream. I'll take a bite of every single thing my husband orders, that's for sure. But when it comes to sharing toothbrushes, absolutely not. I found out a couple of weeks ago that we had been sharing toothbrushes without my knowledge, and I freaked out.

Speaker 4

I felt like I had been violated, and this is my husband.

Speaker 2

But I think they're just there is a line we're you know, you can get too close.

Speaker 6

What do you think, Amanda, I'm on board with the toothbrush, not on board with a towel. For some reason, I want my own bath towel, and I don't want you to use it, And this doesn't make sense because we're both clean. I just I want my own. But in this story, I feel like I can really relate to this because I am dating and I have been dating, and I'm dating somebody new currently, and in that new young it's all right, it's all fun and like the PDA is fun and you can't take your hands off

of each other. And I love that this was their second date because like I could totally see this happening to me, because like you're just so infatuated with the person that like, yeah, you want their gum or you want you know, you just want to like be cute and PDA.

Speaker 4

So I'm all for this.

Speaker 2

Actually, that is such a great point, Amanda. The timing here really matters, because I think if it happened on the second date, it's like a cute rom com moment.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Speaker 2

If it happens like twenty years into marriage, I'm like, what are you doing?

Speaker 4

Like really, oh yeah.

Speaker 3

I'm the opposite.

Speaker 1

Yeah, the second date, I don't even know you. I don't want to swap anything with you now.

Speaker 4

Twenty what is but Danielle.

Speaker 6

But if it's like second date, and you know, like this guy is this is this is definitely going more than second date, Like you want know that, I know in a first date in two seconds if I want to sit there for the rest of the date. So if we're on a second date, you're definitely most likely getting a third day, which means take my gum.

Speaker 4

Y'all are unaned. This is crazy, Amanda.

Speaker 3

How do you make time for dating? Amiss your schedule?

Speaker 6

It is so hard, Danielle, It's so hard, you know, listen. I would just say that it's a it's a very hard balance, especially right now doing these two shows and then also being a mom and then finding a babysitter to be with my son post nanny ing or nanny ing. I have a manny, not a nanny, so I have to find like the extra help. It is so hard.

And you know what I will say, I really really appreciate when I'm on a date with a man and he acknowledges like, thank you so much for making this work tonight, because he knows if he's dating me, I'm a single mom. He knows how many jobs I have to be able to provide for my son and I he knows that I need to get a babysitter in

order to be out with him that evening. So like it's which is so nice when a man is like, thank you so much for making the time, because like, I want to make the time, otherwise I would not be there.

Speaker 5

But it's hard. It's really really tough.

Speaker 6

I have a ton of help, and I'm constantly asking for help in order to have a life, have a mom life, and then have a work life, and to manage all of that is sometimes you just feel crazy and psycho and you feel bad too, Like you feel like you're not being a good mom, you know, because you're leaving I feel like I'm leaving Elvis, and I'm like I'm leaving him again, but like I really want to.

Speaker 4

Take time to go out to dinner.

Speaker 1

Hard. Yeah yeah, yeah, Well I have a question for you too being moms, because I'm not a mom yet. So there is an online controversy that has nearly broken the Internet. Not so. Remember when Kim K broke the Internet for the first time, the Internet had never been broken.

Speaker 4

Now it's been broken.

Speaker 3

This is nearly breaking the Internet just as much.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Speaker 1

So, A TikTok user posted a video titled how to Talk to your child free Friends, and it went viral. So in it, she lays out some basic rules of decorum for friends with kids to follow when talking to their adult friends who don't have kids. So I'm gonna I'm gonna read the list of rules and then I want your reactions left g LFG one keep it to adult conversation.

Speaker 4

Two.

Speaker 1

No logistics of activities and summer camps. Three, try to find something else to ask us about other than our dating lives.

Speaker 4

Four.

Speaker 1

If we visit you from out of town, please do not take us to kids parties. Five my quote husband won't let me permission excuse for not coming to you.

Speaker 3

What what does that mean?

Speaker 2

She's saying like, I don't want to hear that you can't come out with me girl, because your husband said you can't.

Speaker 3

Oh, okay, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1

Number six come to our events, birthdays, careers, milestone celebrations. That's kind of asking a lot, okay. Number seven and check in and number eight don't be envious. Well as you can imagine, people had an opinion or two.

Speaker 3

What is yours? Amanda?

Speaker 4

It's funny.

Speaker 6

I feel like I really do live in between these two worlds. Even though I'm a mother, but because I only have one child and that I'm also dating, I feel like I live in both of these worlds, where like I hang out with single friends that don't have kids, and I very much enjoy hanging out in that environment and not talking about kids and not doing kid things. But then when I'm hanging out with my mom and my mom friends, I'm, you know, doing all the mom

things and talking. So I sort of feel like I kind of get the best of both worlds here, and I don't necessarily ever have to cross these paths, like where I'm in a situation where they're like, can you please stop talking about your kid, because I'm usually then with the friends that I am like roaming around, you know, with you know, my single girls.

Speaker 4

So I don't know what do you guys say.

Speaker 6

Because I live in both of these worlds, I'm double dip in here.

Speaker 2

I get that, I get that, you know what, people come up to me and say that I don't Whenever I tell people that I have children, they're surprised. People tell me I have like childless energy, and I don't know what to make of that. I don't know if that's a huge insult or a compliment. Now that's a good compliment. I think you don't seem tired or worn down. Oh well, that means I'm performing well. So this list I some of these things I can get behind. You know,

don't exoticize my dating life. That's something that I try to be mindflow. Yeah, especially when I'm talking to like my single girlfriends come to our events. Of course, I want to come to everything and support as much as I can. Check in absolutely, that's just like the baseline for a good friendship, right. However, the audacity of the person who made this list, like just to make a list and say, like keep it to adult conversation, no logistics,

Like I think there should be harmony. You should be able to have conversations that don't involve your children or your family, Like we are whole people outside of being moms. Yes, But at the same time, like, if you're my friend, I think it's natural to want you to take an interest in some things related to my children, even if you don't have children yourself, and I as a mom, like I fully support my childless friends, like I would

die for my childless friends because I want. I think it's important that childless women know that they have worth, you know, outside of yeah, pro creating. So I just would never make a list like this. But if I did, if I did make a list, let's say a big if if I did make a list and flipped it and I made a list that was like, here are the things that you shouldn't talk about if you don't have kids. Maybe on the list would be don't tell me how tired you are. Maybe on the list would

be don't tell me how messy your house is. Maybe on the list would be, don't tell me how about how your pet is your child.

Speaker 4

But I'm not saying I'm making a list. Okay, you're right, I'm not saying i'm making one. I'm just saying if.

Speaker 6

I did, I really like that last one, I'm not going to repeat it. I'm not going to repeat it because you said it. So I'm just going to say that I liked that one.

Speaker 4

She's picking up what I'm throwing down.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I feel like this list is kind of mean. I think it's kind of.

Speaker 4

Hard to you. I do too, it's my harsh tie.

Speaker 1

Yeah, there's like or there's different rungs of friends. So if you're in my like first or second rung. I want to know about your kids. They're an extension of you. I probably really love your kids. I do if I can make it. I want to come to their parties. I want to see them grow up. I want them to know me. I want to know them. So this kind of feels like, I don't know, it's just too harsh of.

Speaker 3

A line for me.

Speaker 1

The one thing I will say is I have a really good friend from high school, and we're in totally different periods of our lives. She has two kids, one on the way, so she's about to have three kids, and I have a podcast and she sometimes goes into great detail of things like certain toys or washing bottles, And I'm like, I don't really want to hear the minutia of anybody's life, let alone the minutia of like the logistics of children.

Speaker 3

I want to hear about their personalities.

Speaker 1

You know.

Speaker 2

It's totally fair, yes, that they try to be really conscious of like over sharing details.

Speaker 4

You know, I think that's on us too.

Speaker 6

I remember, before I had a kid, specifically like being around maybe even my sisters, like trying to have a conversation with her, but she couldn't actually have the conversation because she's like, Jimmy stopped, and you're like, so tracy, like when I but Jimmy Jimmy and you're like and then after a couple of those, you're like, I'm just gonna just call me back.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I'm just gonna I'm not never mind, it's not important.

Speaker 6

But you really really wanted to have that conversation, but you couldn't because your mom friend or mom's sister like couldn't even have the conversation because she couldn't control her children.

Speaker 4

Yeah, that used to annoy me.

Speaker 1

So it's so funny you say that I feel the same way, and then I really try to have empathy because I'm like, Okay, they're dealing with a lot.

Speaker 3

I have another friend. I can call call me back.

Speaker 6

Yes, yes, But I think that we as moms also have to figure that out and find that balance because I remember it didn't make me feel good, and so I think that we like, it's been something that I've tried to be cognitive of, like, Okay, if Elvis is in the room, like I really do want to be present. If I'm talking to you about something and you seem to be really needing my advice or help.

Speaker 4

You know what I mean, Danielle.

Speaker 2

As I was thinking about the word empathy, you took the word right out of my mouth. I think that's what's missing in these conversations about women, about our roles to and I think as friends who are in different stages of life, we need to bring that empathy to the forefront. I can remember a conversation that I had with one of my closest friends for over fifteen years now. She kind of sat me down after I had kids and was like, Hey, I feel like something has really

changed here. I don't know what's behind it. I don't know what's make of it. I don't know if it's something I did, but I feel like something's different. And we had to have this really open conversation where I was just like, yeah, you know what, to be honest, things are going to be different for me, and here's how I can bring you in. And I think she was able to do the same thing, but yeah, we got to bring the empathy.

Speaker 4

Well, bravo to your friend.

Speaker 6

Also, way to act like an adult and not a seventh grader, because that's no seriously, like that is an adult woman coming to you and saying let's sit down and have a conversation. Yeah, that is a hard friend to find, so you should keep her around because she is emotionally stable and a grown ass.

Speaker 4

So guys, we love that. Amen. Amen, Amen, we.

Speaker 2

Need to hit pause on Popping Off, but we'll be right back after a short break. Stay with us, and we're back to Popping Off with the co host of the talk, Amanda Klutes. Okay, we're gonna take a hard left turn here. So Demi Moore says she's done with the male gaze. So she's out on the press circuit promoting her new film called The Substance, and she says this film in particular is causing her to reevaluate her

whole relationship with her body. So in a recent interview with The New York Times, she talked about how at sixty one, she's finally comfortable in her own skin. And she says that in this film The Substance, she knew there were going to be shots and angles of her that were quote, not looking good, not flattering. However, she found liberation in not having to be perfect. And I can only imagine after the career that she's had and being so public facing for decades. How freeing that must

have felt. And she talked about this film, you know, being an exploration of that male perspective, the male gaze, and how women sometimes we also buy into it, right, and we also play into it. And she feels like she did that when she was younger and felt this need to look perfect and many of her roles over the years. You know, I did Broadway for sixteen years,

and I was in the ensemble. Most of the shows that I were in, I were next to nothing costumes, so I was constantly aware of my body and my size. When I was a racket, we had weigh ends, so they, you know, you had to stay a certain size and shape.

Speaker 6

They would like, you know, measure the fat on your arms. They don't do that now. Times have changed.

Speaker 3

Do you have any PTSD from that?

Speaker 6

Uh No, not really, because I think and I think this is where it relates to Demimore. It's like we have changed as a society so much. And she especially like you know, when she started making movies to now like how the male gaze has affected her then and now, you know, I mean how women were treated or objectified in movies or impress or impressed tours of movies then to now is completely different. And I also think that

age here really really helps. I've noticed that, you know, even now at forty two, I feel so much more confident in my body and my skin because of my age, And I would hope that only gets better and better because you start caring less and less about what people think.

Speaker 4

And so then I think.

Speaker 6

As you care less and less, you get more comfortable in your own body and your own skin. And I think that's what she's showing and saying, I don't know, what do you guys?

Speaker 3

I think so too.

Speaker 1

I first learned about the male gaze in college in a film class, and they were talking about it as a way to shoot something and so like certain camera angles because many directors or camops were men and still are to this day, to be honest, and so it's like you're shooting a scene depicting women as the object of desire, and it's almost like think like of a woman walking away and men would shoot up the skirt type of a thing, where a woman who was shooting

it might shoot at eye level, and so it changes the way you view this woman.

Speaker 4

Wow.

Speaker 1

And I think Demi Moore probably has really experienced that firsthand as an actress and has seen how those shots have changed over the years. Women have become more active participants instead of objects of desire, Thank god. But I have to tell you I was like kind of shook. A few weeks ago. We have the Hello Sunshine Collective and we had a virtual meeting and the CEO mentioned something about the male gaze and said that she was asking herself how much time has she spent thinking about

the male gaze? Acting out of the male gaze? And I'd never thought about that for myself. It made me question how much time I've spent doing that, And I have.

Speaker 3

To tell you quite a lot.

Speaker 1

I buy clothes thinking that, I do a lot of things thinking about the male gaze. Maybe it's because I'm single still. I don't know if that changes as your partnered, but I've been thinking about that since Sarah Hardin said it.

Speaker 2

If you ever want to experience the sensation of being free from the male gaze, get yourself some queer female friends. Get yourself some lesbian friends, because they are fully liberated. Some of them have been their whole lives. Some of them found that liberation later on. But mm hmm, it's a lot to learn from that.

Speaker 6

I don't know.

Speaker 4

That's a great point though, Danielle. It's like if you.

Speaker 6

Yeah, because even just being single and dating in these last couple of years, it's, uh, it's almost impossible to get the male gaze out of your head even if you try, even if it's a healthy balance, it's still there because you are a single woman trying to find a man, and so you're very aware of that male gaze and how to dress or how to walk or how to look in order to appeal to that.

Speaker 4

It's interesting, it's so true.

Speaker 1

I even think about the opposite, like things I wear, how I want to be perceived in work meetings. If I know a man is going to be at dinner, I'm like, tonight, I'm going to a big group dinner and I have this really hot dress I want to wear. And then I found out there was going to be a bunch of men there, and I was like, I don't.

Speaker 3

Want to do I don't want to wear that. Yep, that's the male gaze.

Speaker 4

It works both ways.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it really does want the attentions, you know, on the attention, you know. Going back to what you were saying, Amanda about age being such a huge factor here. I read a book earlier this year called Women Rowing North by Mary Pifer, and it got me really excited about aging because she cites research that shows that women become increasingly happy after age fifty five. Oh interesting, and happiness is actually like at its lowest point in our twenties,

so that tracks it kind of does. Although I think at the time I thought I was happy. But stories like this, you know, what Demi Moore is realizing, makes me excited to get older.

Speaker 4

Yeah, you know.

Speaker 6

Jane Fonda does a lot of podcasts and she's been on some recently, and she's a great listen because she has a very very strong self confidence now at her age, and I think it's been there for a little while. But she is so like, I don't want a man, I don't need a man. I am happy where I am. She's just really kind of fabulous. So if you need inspiration, she's a good one to listen to.

Speaker 3

Amanda, I love that you said that.

Speaker 1

Her whole documentary now that you mentioned that, is kind of about the male gaze and the role it's played in her life and how she's evolved out of it. That's such a great call. Amanda, You're so fun. Will you come back?

Speaker 5

I would love to guys. You guys are fun too. I love this great fun to park around with, having like a little Kiki with my girlfriends.

Speaker 4

It felt so natural and the time flew by. I know, Wow, that was great. Thank you guys, Well.

Speaker 3

Thank you so much for popping off with us today.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 5

I love the bright side.

Speaker 4

You are the bright side. Ah, thank you.

Speaker 2

Amanda Klutz is a co host on The Talk and a moderator on the new Netflix series Live from the Other Side with Tyler Henry. You can watch her every day on The Talk on CBS.

Speaker 1

It's time for another quick break, but don't go anywhere, because when we come back, we're sharing what's in our cart this week.

Speaker 3

We're back, all right, simone. It's Friday.

Speaker 1

Let's get ready for the weekend with What's in Your Cart presented by Walmart.

Speaker 3

Welcome to your Walmart.

Speaker 1

This is our weekly segment where we have the opportunity to share a product that we are loving right now.

Speaker 2

Okay, so it's officially Halloween in my house now. Danielle and my boys have become obsessed with scaring each other, like hiding behind a door and jumping out and yelling boo. I guess it just is in their DNA, because I love a good prank.

Speaker 4

That's so cute.

Speaker 2

Well it is unless you're walking into your living room on a brand new white rug holding a glass of chilled red.

Speaker 4

Oh no, yeah, I know. Don't worry though.

Speaker 2

I went to Walmart and got some Resolve carpet cleaner, spray spot and stain remover. Who with a few sprays, my rug was actually back to new woo.

Speaker 3

Few is right.

Speaker 1

But I do think you need to get your boys back. Oh I did, but I learned a big lesson in the process.

Speaker 2

What's that Don't jump out of your kid's closet and scare them right before they go to bed.

Speaker 3

That is terrifying. I can't believe you did that to them.

Speaker 4

I know my timing was terrible.

Speaker 1

Well, it sounds like you may need that white noise machine you gave me a couple weeks ago.

Speaker 4

Yeah, and some more grenache.

Speaker 1

Well that's it for today's show. Thanks to our partners at Walmart. On Monday, we've got another edition of shelf Life for you. Author Margaret Wrinkel joins us to talk about her book The Comfort of Crows, which is the one hundredth book pick for Reese's Book Club.

Speaker 2

Join the conversation using hashtag the bright Side and connect with us on social media at Hello Sunshine on Instagram and at the bright Side Pod on TikTok oh, and feel free to tag us at Simone Boyce and at Danielle Robe.

Speaker 1

Listen and follow The bright Side on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The bright Side is a production of Hello Sunshine and iHeart Podcasts and is executive produced by Reese Witherspoon.

Speaker 2

Production by Arkana Audio. Our producers are Jessica Wenk and Christa Ripple. Our senior producers are Janis Yamoka, It'si Kintania and Amy Padula. Our engineer is PJ. Shahamutt.

Speaker 1

Ar Cona's executive producers are Francis Harlowe and Abby Ruzka.

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Arcana's head of production is Matt Schultz.

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Natalie Tuluk and Maureen Polo are the executive producers for Hello Sunshine.

Speaker 1

Julia Weaver is the supervising producer and Ali Perry is the executive producer for iHeart Podcasts.

Speaker 3

Tim Palazzola is our showrunner.

Speaker 2

This week's episodes were recorded by Josh Hook and Joel Morales. Our theme song is by Anna Stump and Hamilton Lighthouser.

Speaker 1

Special thanks to Connell Byrne and Will Pearson.

Speaker 2

I'm Simone Boyce. You can find me at Simone Boice on Instagram and TikTok.

Speaker 3

And I'm Danielle Robe on Instagram and TikTok. That's ro O b A Y.

Speaker 4

We'll see you Monday, y'all.

Speaker 2

Keep looking on the bright side.

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