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The Briefing

A daily news podcast, The Briefing gives you the latest headlines, discussion and explainer interviews to keep you informed and entertained.

Bringing you the news you need to know at 6am and 4pm Monday to Friday, and profile features across the weekend, The Briefing is Australia's go-to news podcast for your commute, coffee or exercise.

Hosted by journalists Sacha Barbour Gatt, Chris Spyrou, Natarsha Belling, Helen Smith and Antoinette Lattouf.

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The sliding doors of tragedy: Bali Bombing 20 years on

It’s the 20th anniversary of the Bali bombings. On 12 October 2002, 202 people - including 88 Australians - were killed when explosions ripped through the Sari Club and Paddy’s Irish Bar in Kuta’s nightclub precinct. We speak to journalist Ali Donaldson who reported on the tragedy at the time, and is there for the anniversary now. What surprised us the most in this interview is sometimes in life, the worst things that happen to us can have the biggest impact - sometimes in really positive ways. ...

Oct 11, 202220 minSeason 3Ep. 239

Why the ISIS brides are coming home

The Australian government is preparing to launch a mission to rescue dozens of Australian women and children trapped in Syrian detention camps. More than 20 Australian women and more than 40 children – the widows, sons and daughters of slain or jailed Islamic State combatants – remain within the al-Hol and Roj detention camps in north-east Syria. Many of the women held in the camps say they were coerced or tricked into travelling to Syria by husbands who have since died. Most of the Australian c...

Oct 10, 202219 minSeason 3Ep. 238

Where does your data go when it's stolen?

Optus customers were horrified to discover last week their personal data had been hacked. Optus estimates that up to 9.8 million Australians could have their data compromised due to the attack, with 2.8 million severely impacted. So what exactly do the hackers do with your data? Ravi Sen is Associate Professor of Information and Operations Management, Texas A&M University. Ravi joins us to explain firstly how your data is hacked, and secondly what the hackers actually do with it. Mandatory h...

Oct 09, 202219 minSeason 3Ep. 237

Treasurer Jim Chalmers on what to expect on budget night.

Treasurer Jim Chalmers will deliver his first budget later this month. The 44-year-old has been tipped as ‘one to watch’ since he was a 20-something joining his local ALP branch. In this conversation, Treasurer Jim Chalmers and Jamila Rizvi discuss everything from the cost of living and housing prices, to childcare and the role of women, to climate change and why politicians never seem to talk about young people on budget night. We discover what drives the country’s new main economic manager, wh...

Oct 07, 202228 minSeason 3Ep. 236

Stolen artefacts given back but looting continues

Today’s Briefing is about returning artefacts to their rightful owners. From skulls to statues and super rare antiquities; nations, like Australia are starting to return artefacts to the countries they were stolen from. We’re joined by Dr Craig Barker - an archaeologist, and the Manager of Education and Public Programs at the Chau Chak Wing Museum at Sydney Uni. Craig explains how and why the hand backs are occurring, and what role Australia has to play in correcting its injustices. In today’s B...

Oct 06, 202219 minSeason 3Ep. 235

You’ve heard of toxic masculinity, but what is positive masculinity?

When it comes to discussions of men and gender, it’s almost impossible to avoid saying or hearing the term toxic masculinity. It’s recently become a zeitgeisty and catch-all explanation for all instances of poor male behaviour. But are we too quick to reach for it as a label given no one has agreed what the phrase actually means? And if we no longer want “boy to be boys,” what exactly do we expect of them? Hunter Johnson is the founder and CEO of Man Cave, an emotional intelligence charity that ...

Oct 05, 202221 minSeason 3Ep. 234

How to make vaping uncool

It’s an age-old question for adults: how to get the message through to teenagers that something they think is cool is actually dangerous, and they should stop doing it? We did it with smoking, now the challenge for this generation of teachers and parents is vaping. Griffith University is looking to change that, they’ve created a gamified experience called The Vape Detective that will help inform students about the dangers of vaping and challenge their perspectives. We speak to Associate professo...

Oct 04, 202223 minSeason 3Ep. 233

Patagonia founder gives away his company

The owner of the $3B outdoor apparel brand Patagonia has given his company away to fight climate change. Depending on his profits around $100m a year will go towards climate initiatives. We find out more about the move and why it’s so rare to see a company founder do something like this. To explain how Yvon Chouinard’s radical act of philanthropy works. We have New York Times reporter David Gelles on the line from upstate New York. Headlines: - Interest rate hike on the cards - Rain forecast for...

Oct 03, 202222 minSeason 3Ep. 232

BookTok: How TikTok is changing what you’re reading

What is the BookTok phenomenon? Is it making reading cool? And how is it affecting book sales? There’s been a big surge in book sales, and publishers are putting it down to a new phenomenon called BookTok. BookTok is where young people on TikTok, typically in their teens or early twenties post about their favourite books in emotional videos racking up millions of views. BookTok has been responsible for the resurgence of several books on the New York Times’ bestseller list, including E. Lockhart’...

Oct 02, 202217 minSeason 3Ep. 231

Louise Milligan and the brutal cost of justice

Louise Milligan is an investigative reporter for 7.30 and Four Corners on the ABC, Louise Milligan’s job is to uncover and explore the complicated, often disturbing realities of Australia’s most high profile political and legal stories. In this conversation, Jamila Rizvi and Louise Milligan explore the personal cost to the high profile, high stakes nature of investigative journalism, what it’s like being “the news”, rather than reporting on it and Louise’s illustrious career journey. You can che...

Sep 30, 202230 minSeason 3Ep. 230

What is going on in Iran?

What’s happening in Iran? We look into the death of Iranian woman Mahsa Amini and why it’s causing so much anger in Iran and around the world. We chat to Naz Almasi, who was arrested at the age of 18 for participating in protests in Iran. She is deeply concerned about her friends and family who have no way of communicating with the outside world with intermittent or no internet access. Naz says "any act of protest is illegal and it has very violent consequences" and wants the international commu...

Sep 29, 202223 minSeason 3Ep. 229

Dangerous or desperate? Putin's double down in Ukraine

Last week Vladimir Putin announced that he was calling up 300k reservists to fight in the war in Ukraine and is threatening nuclear action once again. So how concerned should we be, and is Putin "a cornered rat?" We speak to Peter Hartcher, the international editor of The Age and SMH newspapers and ask has Vladimir Putin become more dangerous, more desperate or both? Headlines: - Albo promises cybersecurity overhaul - Hawks: Clarkson concerned about fair process - 50k sign petition to keep name ...

Sep 28, 202220 minSeason 3Ep. 228

Where are the conservative women going?

Charlotte Mortlock - Former Sky News journalist, is behind the drive called Hilma's Network to get more women in politics. Mortlock thinks more women need to be involved in the Liberal party at a grass roots level for change to occur at the top. The former journo decided to start a network with one goal: flood the Liberal party with women and bring young women back to the conservative side of politics. Headlines: - States act to help Optus customers get new IDs - Nation anti-corruption commissio...

Sep 27, 202219 minSeason 3Ep. 227

Has the Bali bombmaker been deradicalised?

On the eve of the 20th anniversary of the Bali bombings, the bombmaker Umar Patek became eligible for parole. Patek had his sentence reduced last month with Indonesian authorities claiming he’s been “deradicalised.” Patek has served 11 of his 20-year sentence for mixing chemicals used in the attacks that killed 202 people in 2002. We find out what’s involved in a deradicalisation program with Greg Barton, a Professor in Global Islamic Politics from Deakin University, and whether they can actuall...

Sep 26, 202221 minSeason 3Ep. 226

Mystery USB stick reveals cosmetic surgery nightmare

They have been dubbed "cosmetic cowboys" and now the federal government is reining them in. Antoinette Lattouf talks to investigative journalist Adele Ferguson about the numerous patients that have spoken out about the painful and permanent damage they have suffered due to poor practices in Australia's cosmetic surgery industry. And their stories have not been in vain. Health ministers across the country have now agreed to a series of reforms to clean up the sector to ensure doctors providing co...

Sep 25, 202221 minSeason 3Ep. 225

Nakkiah Lui’s biggest role yet

Nakkiah Lui is an actor, writer and comedian. She is a Gamilaroi and Torres Strait Islander woman who is well known as a passionate, determined advocate for the rights and equality of First Nations people. She has an outstanding number of artistic achievements. You will recognise her from TV shows including Black Comedy, Preppers, Kiki and Kitty and Get Krackin or follow her witty, acerbic takes on Twitter. In this conversation Jamila Rizvi and Nakkiah Lui discuss everything from motherhood, div...

Sep 23, 202231 minSeason 3Ep. 224

The Aussie invention that lets you type using your mind

Imagine you could control digital devices using just the power of thought. Although it’s a little more complex than that, an implantable brain-computer interface is essentially trying to do just that. There have been some promising trials in New York where, in a world-first, a person who is severely paralysed was implanted with this new brain-computer technology. Now 20 patients in Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane and Gold Coast are getting onboard. Professor Nicholas Opie is a biomedical engineer an...

Sep 22, 202222 minSeason 3Ep. 223

Why are crime rates falling?

Did you know crime statistics in Australia have been steadily falling over the last 20 years. We are now living arguably some of our safest lives ever. We speak with former director of the NSW Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research, Don Weatherburn about how this has happened, and why our perception of crime could be out of whack. Follow The Briefing: Instagram: @thebriefingpodcast Facebook: TheBriefingNewsAU Twitter: @TheBriefingAU See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

Sep 21, 202219 minSeason 3Ep. 222

The campaign to bring back the Tasmanian Tiger

A campaign has been launched to bring back the Tasmanian Tiger; the carnivorous marsupial extinct in Australia since the 1930s. Despite hundreds of sightings in ensuing years, the Tassie Tiger – or thylacine – is now a distant memory. Colossal Biosciences is a tech and investment company in the US – and it’s recruited people like Paris Hilton and the Hemsworth brothers to invest in its project to re-wild the Tassie Tiger. We’re joined by Ben Lamm, founder and CEO of Colossal Biosciences who expl...

Sep 20, 202221 minSeason 3Ep. 221

Pre-bunking: how to identify misinformation

Google is trying out pre-bunking techniques in a number of eastern European countries after a study found pre-bunking helped ‘inoculate’ people against misinformation. The study showed 30,000 participants cartoons explaining some of the most common manipulation techniques- and later asked them about the tactics. We speak with Jon Roozenbeek, lead author of the study and a postdoctoral fellow at Cambridge University’s Social Decision-Making Lab about how the study works and if this could help fig...

Sep 19, 202222 minSeason 3Ep. 220

Indigenous perspectives on the Queen’s funeral

The Queen’s funeral is tonight and it’s expected to be the most-watched television event of all time. Four billion people are expected to tune in. It will be the end of an era in Australia with King Charles III taking over from his mother. So what will it mean for Indigenous Australians? Our very own Rhianna Patrick, a Torres Strait Islander, tells us about her connection with the Queen and how growing up, she had a fascination with the monarch and royal family. We’re also joined by Blak Douglas...

Sep 18, 202221 minSeason 3Ep. 219

Hugh Van Cuylenburg is a resilient work in progress

Hugh Van Cuylenburg is a bestselling author and co-host of the popular podcast, The Imperfects. Hugh works in the area of resilience, through his podcast and books, he’s worked with everyone from school kids to football stars on how to live a more resilient life. In this conversation Jamila Rizvi and Hugh Van Cuylenburg discuss embracing the current season of your life, the power of resilience and the importance of everyone, but men in particular, sharing their emotions and allowing each other t...

Sep 16, 202228 minSeason 3Ep. 218

ARIA Awards respond to accusations of institutional racism

Rapper Tasman Keith says the ARIA Awards should be judged on art, not charts. Is he right? Keith posted a lengthy explainer on how the ARIA Awards are not based on merit, they’re based on sales this week. ARIA CEO Annabelle Herd joins us to explain why those claims are not quite right, but the awards could do more to acknowledge artists who fly under the radar. We’re also joined by ARIA judge and music journo Sosefina Fuamoli, who says the awards probably don’t adequately recognise artists who d...

Sep 15, 202221 minSeason 3Ep. 217

Six months of Russian sanctions: the real impact

Since Russia invaded Ukraine, a wide range of sanctions has been imposed by western countries. Sanctions are penalties imposed by one country on another, to stop it acting aggressively, or breaking international law. We’re joined by David Uren - an economic analyst and commentator with the Australian Strategic Policy Institute - to determine the real impact of the sanctions. In today’s Briefing we take a deep dive on the real impact of six months of sanctions imposed on Russia over its invasion ...

Sep 14, 202222 minSeason 3Ep. 216

Do you know the real Charles, the person behind the crown?

We have now entered the realm of King Charles III. To many, Charles is an eccentric environmentalist whose relationship with his first wife Diana filled tabloids and documentaries for decades. Now he’s ascended the throne on his mother’s death, we take a deep dive on the man himself with Dr Cindy McCreery, a historian with the University of Sydney and an expert on the history of the Royal Family. In today’s Briefing, Australia has a new King. Do you know the real Charles, the person behind the c...

Sep 13, 202223 minSeason 3Ep. 215

How to not worry in chaotic times

With the Queen’s death last week, the world woke to a new generation. We have a new King, a new heir to the throne and many expect conversations to begin about Australia’s future in the Commonwealth. What should you do if you feel unsure about the future? In today’s episode of the Briefing, we’re joined by Brigid Delaney whose new book Reasons Not To Worry - How to Be Stoic in Chaotic Times, comes out next week. Brigid explains what we can learn from stoics, philosophers who lived by a set of ru...

Sep 12, 202221 minSeason 3Ep. 214

The Queen's final journey explained

The Queen’s body has begun its journey from Scotland to England. Tens of thousands of Britons lined the highways of Scotland overnight to watch the Queen’s cortege from Balmoral Castle to Holyrood House in Edinburgh where her body will lie in state for a day before being taken to London. We’re joined by Jacob Farr from Edinburgh Live who can take us through the ins and outs of the Queen’s final journey. In today’s Briefing, the Queen’s final journey has begun. Today's Headlines: - Queen's corteg...

Sep 11, 202222 minSeason 3Ep. 213

Hannah Diviney is changing the world one lyric at a time

Two months ago Hannah Diviney wrote a tweet that went viral. Hannah was the driving force behind Lizzo and Beyonce, two of the most powerful and influential people in pop music, changing their lyrics which used an ablest slur. Hannah Diviney is a writer and disability & women’s rights advocate. In this conversation Jamila Rizvi and Hannah Diviney unpack everything from pop stars, to cartoons, to the experience of life from a different vantage point. Sign the petition for Disney to create a p...

Sep 09, 202233 minSeason 3Ep. 212

The Queen has died aged 96

In today’s Briefing, we bring you the news that Queen Elizabeth has died aged 96. Buckingham Palace made the official announcement at 6.30pm British time - 3.30am this morning our time. Her majesty was Britain’s longest-serving monarch. The Queen, born in Mayfair, London on April 21, 1926, died at Balmoral Castle in Scotland. In this special episode of the Briefing, we remember Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth the Second. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

Sep 08, 202231 minSeason 3Ep. 211

Online child abuse: why Australia’s the test case

It’s National Child Protection Week. Australian authorities have served Apple, Microsoft and Meta with world-first legal orders this week to come clean on what they are doing to detect and report child sex abuse material or face fines of more than half a million dollars a day. Australia’s move will be watched internationally- in the US, there has been bitter debate over whether child security should trump privacy. We speak to filmmaker Simon Nasht about the orders, about the potential implicatio...

Sep 07, 202222 minSeason 3Ep. 210
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