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THROWBACK: Angie Stone On Being A Rap Pioneer, History of The Sequence, Coming 'Full Circle' + More

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Throwing it back with Angie Stone! The rap pioneer breaks down the History of The Sequence, Being A Rap Pioneer, Coming 'Full Circle.' Listen For More!

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Speaker 1

Wake that ass up in the morning.

Speaker 2

Breakfast Club Morning everybody, It's d J M Vy Angela Yee, Charlamagne the guy.

Speaker 3

We are the Breakfast Club. You got special guests.

Speaker 1

In the building.

Speaker 4

Columbia, South Carolina, Angie eight O three rhymes.

Speaker 3

I like that.

Speaker 1

How are you?

Speaker 5

I'm good.

Speaker 3

I can't complain. You know I've been blasted for a long time in this business. You already know.

Speaker 4

Yeah, people, I don't think people realize that Angie's one of the Pine is a rap The Sequence your first.

Speaker 3

Female go yeah, the first female group period to do an original rap record, to do a rap record that gone up the world. We had our neighborhood rappers, we had our New York City rappers, but Sequence was the world's rappers. And I think people get it twisted.

Speaker 1

Funk funk it up with the song funk you up.

Speaker 3

Until you got that mixed that with Bruno, I ain't gonna go.

Speaker 1

Didn't he stample it well?

Speaker 3

What he did did an interpolation of it up to funk it up. We're gonna uptown funkus, funk you right on up. We're gonna funk you the same thing. Were

getting paid no attention right now but guess what it's at. Yeah, well, my attorney went in and we tried to do some stuff, and of course, because there's three group members and I've been doing my thing for a minute, it kind of pulled the scenes at who's who's with who and who's down with And I just said, you know what, let it rest because we're getting a lot of negative slack because a lot of people that don't know about the

sequence or that song. We getting a lot of negative flat because they're like, they don't sound nothing like it. I'm like, they don't understand the interpolation process and how you know. The reason we were upset because Bruno admitted that it was influenced by the sequence Wow, and he did that on Instagram and somebody snatched it down.

Speaker 6

Right, and people do interpolations so that they don't sample.

Speaker 5

So then they well, doctor d did keep your hands ringing?

Speaker 3

That was a direct rip from funk you up. They did. I mean, we wrote the song, we wrote the melody, wrote the chant, we added singing to hip hop, and now everybody's doing it. It's okay, And I think it's wrong for them to try to overlook us. We're from South Carolina. I mean, what did that go with? Nothing?

Speaker 1

So y'all ain't get paid from doctor drine e.

Speaker 3

Yes, we did, ok, but we had he admitted it.

Speaker 1

He had kept that post paid.

Speaker 6

But you know it's still there, everything that's been on it.

Speaker 3

Well, the beauty of it is they admitted it. But the minute the elephant is brought out of the closet, everybody runs because nobody wants to be labeled a thief. And we just say that. I'm very honored, and I got my girl blinding from the sequence here, just back.

Speaker 1

So excited.

Speaker 3

Yeah, well you know Snoop, I've worked with Snoop he did. I want to thank you along with me and Jazzy Fay back in the day. But he wants me to work with his daughter and he wants to work with my son. So we we have a kindred spirit. And l A hip hop was reminiscent to sequence Bunk, that whole funk era. So I just think overall people need to respect the fact that it is what it is.

Speaker 6

So both of your children are doing music. Pardon me, both of your children are doing music, all right. I guess it's in the blood. Like there was no getting around it.

Speaker 3

Well, both my kids' fathers I was with of course, you know, I was with Janzelo and then before that, I was with Little Rodney Sea from the Funky four plus one. More so, my daughter sings and my son raps. It kind of went this way.

Speaker 4

Do you think I think that you should be getting credit as a pioneer female rap Like I don't think that.

Speaker 1

Then y'all go gold.

Speaker 3

We went go. We were the first group to go go sell twelve inch records. That means twelve inch records. Along with the Sugar Hill Gang, toured the world pretty much. We never get the recognition, and of course you know that's probably platinum ten times over by now. But we don't get the recognition because I think the New York it's got a little salty because you know, we made it out of starting gates. I mean, it's like a race, a marathon race. You're doing the full forty relay, you

passed the time, whoever you ended up at the finish line. Hey, it's fair game, you know what.

Speaker 2

Nobody knows the story because well, I'm in New York and is as deep a Miami as in hip hop.

Speaker 3

Maybe I know, you know, I really had no I had no clue what funk you up?

Speaker 4

No?

Speaker 2

I knew funk up, but I didn't know that Sequence. The Sequence was the first group that pretty much go gold but as a girl.

Speaker 3

But who did you think would go first? Oh? And we were ten, well ten fifteen years before them. There used to be a thing you probably wouldn't have to see the cash box called cash box and billboard. If you do your research, it's there. We were the first female group hip hop group period to make cash box and uh, Rolling Stone just did a big article on us because a lot of the people that were back then they knew, why are they getting any attention? And you know, I just think it's sad because a lot

of the females hip hoppers. And I trust me, I love them all, big respect props. But learn he'll loves Andrew Stone because it's reminiscent to what she did with her group rap sing and that's what we did.

Speaker 5

And you guys are all still cool with each other.

Speaker 3

Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 6

So it was never like a falling out with the group broke up? Who with Sequence?

Speaker 3

Oh? No, you know you girl group, you have your red peck moments, but we are sisters and at the end of the day. We love each other, we look out for each other, We got each other. We don't always agree, of course, I mean nobody always agrees. But I decided to leave the group early on because I moved to New York. I learned a lot of stuff about songwriting. I was a songwriter and a brother named Craig Darry who used to be with the Sugarhill Click, said you need to get out and go to New York.

Here event blah blah. And I moved to New York and I learned a lot of stuff. Listen, I want.

Speaker 2

To start because this is a history lesson for a lot of myself. So you signed to Sugar Hill Gang. How did you get signed? How did you? First of all, how did you get into hip hop? How did you get signed? And how did you get your deal? Because it wasn't like before where now where it's internet is TV that's playing hip hop.

Speaker 3

Radio wasn't playing hip hop back then?

Speaker 1

How did you get into it? Yeah?

Speaker 3

Coming from Columbia, South Carolina and it was sixteen seventeen, eighteen years old, we had a group that was doing rap back then. Kington the Third was out and we wrote a song called funk you up. I think Sylvia Robinson came to South Carolina. It was the first leg of the first sugar Hill Game tour, the first show, the first city we happened to be in the concert. The road manager from sugar Hill Gang saw me and thought I was just pretty chocolate chick. How to come

back second? So I said, well, if you let me in, you gotta let my friends in. So we all came in, got backstage. Sylvie was backstage and was literally on the stage and we said, hey, we wrap and she said, well, let me hear what you got on the side of the stage, and we went, funk you right on up, We're gonna funk you right and she flipped. She said, oh my god, oh my god. The next thing I know, we were sitting in the dressing room giving our phone numbers. She says,

I'm gonna make you girls start now. We had already been a group, I mean at you know, being a cheerleader, seeing John some writing cheers and creating stuff like that was what we did. And she called us the very next week, Wow blew us to New Jersey off our. You know, we was talent show bound doing everything everybody did, but just in South Carolina and we cut the record Funk You Up, and a couple of weeks later I thank it. Three weeks record went golding through.

Speaker 2

Wow.

Speaker 1

Was it a fair deal or did they take advantage of y'all?

Speaker 3

Of course it took advantage. Well, we did have a lawyer, but he was a South Carolina lawyer. We thought we were doing the right thing. But you know, one thing I've learned in life is you have to have experience. Yes, Uh, Sylvie Robinson, I give him mad props because, quite contrary to what a lot of people think. You know, when you're the first at anything, you're gonna make mistakes. So I lean heavily to that because she did something phenomenal that turned out to be greatful a lot of people.

But you had to have some crash jest.

Speaker 1

What did the stand power been like like?

Speaker 4

Transitioning from a hip hop artist to a R and B trio to a legendary soul singer.

Speaker 3

Like yeah, writer, well, I tell you the blessing For me, I'm as sage and I think out the box. One of the things I always hated was when I saw groups that were from the fifties and sixties in the seventies and eighties, still in the same uniform doing an old hit. I said, I never want that. So what I did was I learned to be a chameleon, and I wanted to change with the times. So what I did was I kept myself around fresh hotness, and I

learned everything in life is a learning process. The moment we think we know everything, we absolutely know nothing that's right. So I learned to be a comedian and change with the times. So the stay in power has been number one. My faith is unshakable in Christ. I love the Lord, and that's my rock and my salvation. So I decided when the music changed, you changed too. But you can't straight too far away from who you are and with you.

Speaker 4

But it seems like you you're such a great singer that it's like I can't see you ever doing anything else.

Speaker 1

I can't believe you even used to rap?

Speaker 3

What the beauty if? That was? When we got discovered as rappers. One the first question I asked Sylvie Robinson is is Robinson? Is it okay if I sing too? Because I wanted to put a hook. You don't want to sing. So when you say that, hey, you said no, that I was begging to do that because I knew one day in life I wanted to sing from the church. So I mean, I love rap, but I can sing too, so can we combine it too? And she's so excited about the rap, she said, Oh, I need you do what you want to do.

Speaker 1

Wow.

Speaker 3

And that that is what kind of set the segue up for me to make the transition from after being thirty years old, you want to transition from hip hop to hooray. So I just went ahead and started singing and you know, kind of juggling now when I did my deal with Arista. The one reason you don't know a lot about the hip hop is one of the things that Clive Davis and Peter Edge wanted to do was say, Okay, look, we don't want to date you.

I'm like, I'm still young. What are you talking about? Well, we don't want to talk about all that stuff at sugarhar So they kind of gagored at me not to talk about artist coming out right got you? And because I'm a singer now and they want to focus on that, And I'm like, I don't have a telescope into the future, not knowing what it was going to be. How it was going to be. All I know is I'm in this game for somebody, gotcha.

Speaker 1

So what happens when people recognize you pull up the radiation.

Speaker 3

You're like, OK, okay, she.

Speaker 6

Just wasn't talking about it in interviews, Like I couldn't.

Speaker 3

Talk about it in the interviews. It's not that I didn't want to.

Speaker 5

I never heard of anything like that that they put a gag.

Speaker 3

I don't even know, well I'm using that word gig. But when your boss.

Speaker 2

Tells you try to make the music, like how to do a sixteen and do a hook and all.

Speaker 3

That because you said enough time? Wow what I was hungry. I was thirsty, I was ambitious and I went I started. It's like now I'm developing film and you know, reality shows up. It's having that bug to say, I'm I'm a rubber band. You can stretch me, but I won't pa,

I'm gonna always do me. So you know the you know, being a rapper is a life lesson for me, but it hurts when you've put over forty years in the game and the people that are now eating off of the foundation that you created don't look back and say, yo, good looking. Now that's why Snoop shows us love. That's why Doctor draining them show us love. The people in La embrace us because Yo Yo can say hey, EMC like and say Yo, hey, it's because of y'all that

we're doing this. She thanked me, Yo yo, thank me. We gotta show our first show coming up with EMCE light and Salt and Pepper and just don't I said, oh, you know, I got to bring the girls just go like that Rodick and Philly. So that's coming up, and I'm excited about.

Speaker 1

That new artist.

Speaker 2

I'm sorry he has any of the new y'all artists.

Speaker 1

Thank you. City girls ain't never thank y'all.

Speaker 3

No, they don't know, but but but I promise you they will know because I'm actually getting ready to do We're working on a biopics.

Speaker 6

That's what I was gonna ask you. I saw you said, is Jamie Fox working on that too?

Speaker 3

Or was that you know Jamie and our work. Jamie wants to do another film with me. But Ralph, when I'm working, well, who did Hollywood husbands? Uh? On the on the biopic and We're gonna have to cross all these lanes. So I'm very excited about my journey and my career and my life coming from hip hop through Neil So all the way up through my vertical whole days and just having a bird's eye view like I'm gonna I'm gonna blow your mind? You ready for this?

One of the things that I can't wait for the world to see is hip hop was in the Bronx before it ever came downtown. It was something in the Bronx. It was myself and Little Rodney See that introduced hip hop to Downtown. We did the first party of the show in the club that was called the roxy Uh. It used to be a skating ring. We made it into the club. It was Andre Harrel myself with the sequence the Funky four plus one More Africa Bada. This was a show that my money paid for, made the

flyers for Put Together and his fourth. Hip Hop moved from Uptown to Downtown single handily, and it never changed. Madonna used to serve us drinks at Danceteria. That's how really get okay. That was a club she was a waitress at.

Speaker 1

How do you remember her?

Speaker 3

Because she served me drinks? Wow? You she was a waitress. I was a performer there. Wow was she?

Speaker 6

Did she say you know I'm an aspiring singer.

Speaker 3

Also, No, she didn't have to say that she was working.

Speaker 6

She was just you know, sometimes people will do that.

Speaker 3

But I'm just giving you shedding a little light on some stuff because a lot of people, when they disrespect the sequence, they disrespect the culture of hip hop because they don't even know how they got from uptown to downtown. And when you overlook the fact that Hey, Little Run and seeing m GP booked this show, paid everybody for the show, and henceforth the wild Style movie, bab Fire Freddy, He'll tell you all these people know. So when you

overlook that, you overlook a movement. It's not just about the one song. You have to look at the legacy of what hip hop really stood for back then and the sacrifices that were made. And I can't wait for the story of Yeah.

Speaker 4

When I think of like sugar Hill Gang, I'm like, there's no reason for anybody ever mentioned sugar Hill Records and I mentioned Sequence.

Speaker 3

Thank you. Yeah, I don't understand when the sugarhar Girl they called us that, but we wrote all their hits.

Speaker 1

Yeah for the guys too.

Speaker 3

Did you hear what I just said? Yeah, apache one under all so really we were the West Street mob that left Stance. I know you got the fever, that's the sequence.

Speaker 4

Were all getting paid Yeah good money.

Speaker 6

Is a movie going to be Do you know where it's going to be? Is it going to be on like a like a BT series or is it going to be in the theater?

Speaker 3

It will be, it will be. Uh, it won't be just one episode. It'll be a series, a mini series. That's what's working on because it spans too far talking about nineteen seventy nine up until today and just releasing the album that's already my single dropped and it went straight to number two. Oh certain baby, So my my, it's a reason for everything. I think God preserved this time for us to get the story right.

Speaker 4

So you know, what advice would you give to this musical generation, because when I hear you talk, I'm saying to myself, man, it's almost like you always got to constantly tell people what it is you do because if not, they will forget.

Speaker 3

Well they will forget I mean because the unfortunately, the masterminds of the powers that be, in my opinion, have taken the love and the genuineness out of the livelihood of being you know an artist, back when you had to work and enjoy touring, and you know, a lot of that stuff has been kind of cut out because it's like a fast track now to success and a lot of people are consumed with money. Back then, we were having fun. You know, when you did a block party,

you had fun. You know what I mean, when you went to the skates ring and you bounced frock, say you have fun. Now it's all business, business, business, and at the end of the day. So my advice to anybody doing this, man, take your time. It's like going through school. You want to be a senior so bad, but the minute you graduate and I wish I was back in.

Speaker 2

So it's that to take it serious though, because a lot of times we didn't look at business and.

Speaker 3

We had fun. You asked for somebody else and we didn't guess what, that's me all day. But I'm still here to tell you that's me. But I'm here to tell you that I wouldn't change a thing because I had a great time. I had a great time, and sometimes you can't compromise the monetary value of it. For you know, my daughter gave me a penny. They had a whole and said, don't be so busy making a living that you forget to make a life, you know.

Speaker 6

All right, So let's talk about your children and their respective father. So what was your your daughter's father?

Speaker 3

Right?

Speaker 6

Did you guys ever think you were going to end up together get married?

Speaker 3

Now, my daughter's father's a little roundie see for four plus no more? Did I ever think I fell in love with him? He was a good person, still is a good person. It was a leo. We were compatible.

Speaker 6

You're very into signed. You're like, I'm sad.

Speaker 3

Yeah, yeah, because I you know, energy when we hooked up. He when he came to sugar Hill was I think after we had been on a couple of tours, Sylvia signed the Funky four plus one more. The young man that I was dating prior to becoming a celebrity died a tragic accident in high school. So I was in mourning when we dropped Funky up. I was really grieving

and touring. He came along with the group. We had so much fun, just clicked, and I got pregnant with my daughter, and of course from the Bible bell I at that point realized, oh my god, I can't be pregnant. I can't be pregnant. I have a husband. So my mindset, the way I was taught back then was you can't have a baby by the.

Speaker 5

Wedlocke, gotta get married, got.

Speaker 3

To get married. So I got married for that reason, not because I didn't love him, because I did. But I'm an only child, so my mom and dad was gonna wring my neck if I didn't.

Speaker 5

You're trying. Thing was.

Speaker 3

Wow.

Speaker 1

I mean that shows how much expect we have for.

Speaker 3

Oh yeah, god. Absolutely. So at that point we did get married. We did get married. It didn't last long because it wasn't right, but at the end of the day, we did good business together. Because I have to shout him out as the person that taught me the ropes. Yeah he you know, he was a part of SUGARYO. Sugar didn't like him. They didn't agree with him because he didn't take no mess. And it was like, you ain't gonna take me to learn and pay me the same thing I made in New York. So you know,

I started to learn the ropes to the game. I moved to New York because of that, And that's why I credit him for that, because after learning what I learned about the industry, I could shape my life up a little different.

Speaker 6

So then you had the highly publicized relationship with DiAngelo, And I told y'all used to work for D'Angelo.

Speaker 3

So I was.

Speaker 6

Around like when all of that was happening, and you guys used to work together.

Speaker 3

Well, you know what, without giving a lot of I was with the Angelo four or five years prior to him becoming the Brown sugar Man. So a lot of people don't know that. They just think it just was an overnight thing that happened. It wasn't that way. We were together for quite a while and by the time we fell in love with each other, it wasn't anybody's business because nobody was checking for him all that. No, it wasn't all that stuff going on. By that time

we were here or we was in love. You like what you're gonna do, so you know, you can't just start picking and plucking people apart because oh, somebody gets a hit record. Because I think ten fifteen years prior to that bunk you up had dropped, I was already there. I was with Vertical Hole, was already in the game as a celebrity. So by the time he was discovered, I was there already, and so I was more of an asset than you know, the way they try to

make it look. Because at this point, like if you take somebody who you're trying to get in the game and say hey, I need you to hook up, it's like, right now, anybody connected to Beyonesce I gonna win, you know. So if you're winning, you want to put people that you want to win with winning people. And I think that's where they kind of I'm gonna use the word tick, you know, because the tick sucks the blood out of

a situation. And I think the industry, the conglomerate of people kind of used that situation to count.

Speaker 4

But you was already like a couple couple of solo albums in by the time you got with him, right one one.

Speaker 3

I just thot my first I was with Vertical Hole. When I got with him, I wouldn't even end my solo career yet.

Speaker 6

When did you guys fall in love? Because like you said, you had known him before Brown Sugar and everything.

Speaker 3

You knew him before abs No, I when I before you guys knew him? I knew him, but it was just it was chemistry. We worked in the studio and as we were working it just you know, the same magic you heard that was being created was something that was being created that that creator created lot. I didn't do that. I didn't even go oh, oh my God, I want you now. It was never that.

Speaker 6

I remember working for his management team and they didn't like the fact that he was having a baby because they felt like it would take away from him as this sexy can't control God.

Speaker 3

That that I didn't make the baby by myself. He didn't make the baby by you know, when people get when that happens, it happens. You don't playing it. You don't you know, you can't say, oh tonight, I can I have a baby? You just don't do that. That's a part of God's plan. But you know, I'm sure a lot of people don't like you just ever got married. But you can't stop this work so mad. But I'm just making a point. People, you know, you can't dictate

what happened. And they might not have liked him having a baby. I didn't know. He didn't want a baby something he wanted. No, absolutely, And my thing is I think that people read way too much into again dollars and cents right that all he was a check for them.

Speaker 5

Absolutely, how did the relationship?

Speaker 1

Why did they go left?

Speaker 3

See? If I tell you all that, you won't watch the movie playing just for the sake of being being who it's really about me. It's like anything you put too much pressure on a situation. You take somebody who is again thirsty, hungry to be successful. And I don't know what they said behind closed doors. I don't know what they did. I don't know how they push buttons.

I can only tell you a lot of stuff was done, but it wasn't a normal It hurt us both to break up and and I can honestly tell you that it affected us and it still affects my life, his life, my son's life. It's still those kind of moves hurt people, and at the end of the day, you're not happy because at the core it's not where you.

Speaker 1

The industry broke.

Speaker 3

I can't say that. I can't say that without really going into but I mean, you could be able to tell me. You should be able to tell me. Do you think we working on all?

Speaker 5

Do you think I know you did it?

Speaker 3

Okay?

Speaker 1

How the label you when you got pregnant? Your label?

Speaker 3

They can't dictate my life because I'm a woman. It's like Lauren here, she did say, y'all can't tell me I'm a woman, so at should I not have children because I have a record or should you know? You have to look at life and say, should I put everything that God has intended for me on hold to accommodate the people that are leaches? No, if you want what I got, you got to take all of me. And that's just said. So yes, I had two children, and if I could have had ten children, I would.

I was an only child, so I loved big family. But I did put myself on hold so that I wouldn't have all these babies because you know, I wanted to work. I want to have a life.

Speaker 1

Was it a hard core parenting with with the agelong?

Speaker 3

It's hard coparenting with anybody if you're not married.

Speaker 4

Mm, especially y'all. Y'all both on TOI all the time. Schedules crazy, all of us.

Speaker 3

Like I said, both my children fathers are in the entertainment business, and it's harder for anybody who is not living together every day to co parent if you're both traveling. So at the end of the day, my husband is God. The reason I say that is because that's who helped me sustain the life with my children.

Speaker 6

Was there ever a time that you were disenchanted with this music business having been at such a young age and said I don't wanna do this anymore?

Speaker 3

Absolutely? Absolutely, I've quit four or five times and people going, oh, we need you, we need you, we need you. So, yes, disenchanted is the right word.

Speaker 2

Uh.

Speaker 3

I think because I see the good, the bad, and the ugly, and because a lot of people that are in the uh you know, the the fans don't see the perimeter, and we see the perimeter. It makes you say you have to pick and choose how you're gonna use your gift. So I choose to use my gift in lyrics and in positive messages and real messages so that the people that are listening from a heart space get it. So I can't really be consumed with oh

they not they not recognizing me. Oh they're not doing this cause they didn't give.

Speaker 1

Me a gift.

Speaker 2

What happen with your daughter? You got an incident with your daughter. I know that was publicized everybody.

Speaker 3

Hell, I mean since their daughter we go through we all right, that's my daughter. The beautiful thing is when we were raised and and and and he could tell you this from South. Our parents didn't play with us. Okay. I used to get a straightened call, throw straight across the room at me, or a shoe or boot what they could grab. So the reality is we were raised in a certain way and disrespect is not tolerated. That's the fabric of who I am now. My daughter and

my son, they can wear me out. I'm gonna stay throw something at you if you make me mad, because that's not how we do. She have kids of her own now, and I have to get between her. Hey wait, but it's called family. And the only reason it gets magnified to the tenth power is because inquiring minds want to know. If I didn't have a name, that wouldn't care. So but my daughter's mind, that's my heart.

Speaker 4

And when you get beat as a kid, when you get older and you know the objects don't work no more, and you think you can raise up on your dad exactly raised up on her mama.

Speaker 1

Put them hands up there. Let me see where you're at.

Speaker 3

Oh yeah, cause you can't. You can't come at me, want to fight me like a street person, and I and I just get the bell, or that ain't gonna worry or we were pulling up Now now that's my baby she you know. But y'all good always.

Speaker 6

So you think about making timeless music, right, because you have songs that you've done so long ago that today still are relevant and still people could listen to it like it's brand new.

Speaker 3

But that's what I was talking about. You know, you have to know your purpose. And that's what I meant when I said creating music that meets the mind of people that it touches, because you know, when we're gifted with certain things, we're gifted for a purpose, and when we make ourselves more important than the purpose, we lose the gift. So I had to make sure that I didn't get consumed with everything that everybody else worries about in terms of, oh, you ain't working it like a lot.

I've never been invited to black girls rock, no man, never wow, come on now, but I love black girls rock rock.

Speaker 1

Come on now, that's just ridiculous.

Speaker 3

But I'm just saying, if I let little stuff like that stop me from rocking as a black girl, hmm, then I've lost the purpose.

Speaker 1

I'm about to hit Connie right now that ain't even right.

Speaker 5

I'm gone.

Speaker 3

I'm only saying that because a lot of people come to me, you come right around. Oh really, no, they haven nobody to me, So I would never assert myself. And this goes back to the way the industry shapes the situation because of another situation.

Speaker 6

Well, let's talk about some other things, because we're developing reality shows. But you've also been on reality television, right, R and B Divas and so what was your experience? Because they did it wasn't what I thought it was going to be or what you thought it was going to be. Ridthinck and Angie Stone is going to come in. She's the voice of reason, She's the person that's going to.

Speaker 3

Well that's what they hired me for. When I went just the backstory to R and B Divas. Uh, when before the show was created, I had created a show similar. So the same guy Peel who put the second show together was a person that I was working with the development show. So same idea faith had I had and NICKI And when they called me and said yeah, well we can all do it together, said okay. I thought I was gonna be a producer on that. And then

when we addressed it. They said, well, we've already done contracts. We've done d D d D. I said, okay, well I want to I let go. I walked back because I realized it's crazy. So the second season, I got a call from TV one and they said, hey, look, these girls are fighting too much. They're doing this, they're doing that, and you you know, we all love you, we respect you. We need you to begin in here and try to smooth things out. So I said, okay, that's easy enough

for me. So my purpose for being a part of the show was to make them focus on who they were as singer, even though they had to cat fight stuff going on. I my job was just to try to smooth it over. Well, of course his reality TV and I learned this the hardway. They turned that thing all the way around and like who you think you have and blah blahlah, and I'm like this, Hell, I'm old enough to know the difference, still young enough to

make a difference. You need to chill, okay. So it really ticked me off because even though they didn't know the ins and outs of my being there to smooth things out, they used to get upset when I say, well, let's sing something. Look, I'm trying to help y'all stay relevant. Let's sing something. People need to hear your voices in

this capacity. But they, I think, underneath it all, they trying to figure out why she's still doing this and I sing better than her, and I'm not here and I'm not there, and I think that was the problem. They became a little bit envious of the fact that, well, who she thinks she is, I was their biggest dress and as a result, I say, you know, I don't want a part of this.

Speaker 6

Yeah, so you walked off during the reunion.

Speaker 3

I walked off because once they started to manipulate, and you know, I was not comfortable with the lives of touring and I'm like, look, I can't let you guys destroy my brand. I've been doing this almost forty years at this point, so I'm not willing to throw my entire life away because you need five minutes of fame. So y'all got this. I'm good over here.

Speaker 6

They were even trying to say that your husband slept with my husband, I mean your boyfriend at the time, our manager slept with somebody from the staff.

Speaker 3

You know what, I really don't want to address that because he's fighting for his life right now, so I kind of don't want to go there. That's a very good friend of mine that had some wonderful times with and yes there's been a lot of rumors about a lot of things, and if you saw the show then you saw it was very uncomfortable for us. But again manipulative and you know, he just had a very very bad motives. Okay, been been down.

Speaker 5

We'll pray for him.

Speaker 3

Thank you. I don't want to go there.

Speaker 1

Why did you name the new album full Circle?

Speaker 3

Well, that's a great question. I dictate the success of my album based on the title. When I did Mahogany so all I went to this whole Mahogany Vibe, Barushka lipstick and all this, because I think that a song or a title of a song dictates the strength of it. Full Circle. I'm at a place where I've seen this industry do this, go around and around. It's the same

old thing. And I wanted to get back to Angie Stone, the one that when I started out when I did Mahogany, So when I did Black Diamond, I wanted to say, Okay, I've tried all these other things. Let me go back to me and full circle is the complete circle of in my opinion, Well, I've come full circle and I know who I am. I know whose I am, I know what I've survived. If I walked away today, I can say I am a survivor, and full circle dictates

that and the end of themself. The fact that we've got five stars out of five stars on everything across the Border, and this album proves that you know, stamp out, whether it's seventy nine or twenty nineteen, it's who you are. You know what your purpose is. So I'm good.

Speaker 6

You know what I noticed too about music, Sometimes when we go through the most tragic things, that's when the best songs, yes come out of it. Do you feel like that's true for you?

Speaker 3

I do. You know, just about two months ago, I was fighting for my life and when a lot of people don't notice, but when the album dropped, I was just getting back to myself and I realized at that point, you know what I'm saying, Now it's time to just make a life, enjoy this thing again, get back to the to the place where music matters, because I think at some point it's so much mess going on that music doesn't matter anymore, and I wanted to make some music that matter. And this is the time in my

life where I'm at my greatest. I think I've walked a powerful journey. That t shirt that she has on, it's about me and the men in my life. These are all the people that I ever did do it, and I've worked with almost every one. Are the artists of our generation.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I can't.

Speaker 3

So that's a specialty that I'm working on because not many people can say that. And I say, everybody is so worried about who's Angie's dating me and the men in my life. I ain't dating all these guys, but I've worked with them all, you know, So I'm in a good space.

Speaker 1

What was wrong with you two months ago? What was it?

Speaker 3

You don't want to say, no, no, no, what. I'm a diabetic, you know, I've been, you know, dealing with that. I have a diabetic that was produced induced by pregnant zone and I I had a chemical spell at Presbyterian Hospital when I was twenty six years old that exposed me to a German cause the diabetes because the medicine that had to give me. So when you guys saw me yay, big. It was the medicine. But a lot of people like, oh why are you with that? Big figure said, you

don't know my story. So now that I'm completely healed and I ain't got my little swag back, you ain't had none. But let the world tell it. She was this big, fat girl. But again, you got to watch a movie.

Speaker 5

She is selling this movie right now.

Speaker 1

Are you scared to have a popied chicken sandwich? Are you scared to have a popeised chicken sandwich?

Speaker 3

Oh no, honey, okay, I'm not scared. But I don't eat fried stuff like that. Never have. I don't eat like a bunch of junk food, never have. So but you know you can eat, but you have to eat right. You can't just.

Speaker 1

Hard coming from will you come front?

Speaker 3

No? But I cooked. See they're not season my food.

Speaker 1

Without using her that you know. Somebody said, don't.

Speaker 3

I don't use all that stuff like a lot of people use a lot of heavy salt. You can use lemon and it tastes just like salt. You have got to just know. Now, we love to cook, don't get me wrong. Ox tails and then cooked all of that.

Speaker 1

Now, but.

Speaker 3

You don't have to eat unhealthy. You know, I think God has preserved me all this time because he knows my heart and he knows I'm gonna do right. So that don't mean I don't sneak every now and then.

Speaker 1

And then, yeah, are you trying somebody to play you yet?

Speaker 3

For the ball, I got some ideas. That's some ideas a couple of people that I really really am interested. I know one segment of Ane Stone.

Speaker 5

Is your daughter to be in it, of course.

Speaker 3

But the young lady that used to be Burning Max's daughter. Okay, Oh yeah, we appreciate you for joining us. Yes, thank you, Thank you a whole lot. Okay, I learned the whole definitely.

Speaker 6

I've always wanted to meet you, so I'm glad I had an opportunity.

Speaker 3

I'm glad mainly because you know the back story to a lot of this stuff that I've been hating on for for years. I think, you know, being involved with the sex symbol can be a blessing.

Speaker 5

I was like, who is she involved with?

Speaker 2

Well, Angie Stone, thank you for joining us.

Speaker 3

Angie Stone.

Speaker 1

It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning,

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