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The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast

Kris Rocha & Jenn Howierss.com

Welcome to " The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast," where hosts Kris Rocha and Jenn Howie explore the complexities of betrayal and offer guidance on how to recover and transform from its aftermath.

Through candid conversations and interviews with experts in the field, Kris and Jenn delve into topics such as healing from betrayal trauma, rebuilding trust, and helping individuals uncover their unique identities. Join us on this journey of self-discovery and transformation as we provide a safe and supportive space for listeners to heal, grow, and learn how to turn trauma into triumph.

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Episodes

Integrity Driven Healing with Dr. Jake Porter

In this special episode , we’re joined by Dr. Jake Porter , renowned relational trauma expert, coach, and founder of Daring Ventures . Known for his groundbreaking work helping individuals and couples heal from betrayal and rebuild trust, Jake brings deep insight and compassion to the recovery journey. Together, we explore the transformative power of integrity-centered healing and learning to be comfortable being uncomfortable. Jake shares his personal experience participating in a program calle...

Jul 18, 20251 hr 12 minEp. 33

Theraputic Disclosure 101 with Dan Drake

How much truth is too much truth? What if you feel ready for disclosure, but your partner doesn't? What’s the actual goal of a therapeutic disclosure—and how do you know when you’re ready? In this episode, we sit down with Dan Drake , a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist and expert in betrayal trauma and sex addiction recovery. Dan unpacks the basics of therapeutic disclosure , a structured process where the full truth of sexual betrayal is disclosed in a safe, supported setting. He shares t...

May 21, 20251 hr 8 minEp. 32

How Our Voice Can Help Us Heal with Amy Elysse

This week on The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast , we’re joined by Amy Elysse—vocal coach , faith-filled encourager, and a radiant light in her community. Amy opens up about her own betrayal story and shares how the human voice , primarily through singing, can become a powerful tool for healing . Whether you’re musically inclined or simply longing to express yourself more fully, Amy brings warmth, insight, and practical wisdom to the conversation. And she's created a free recording to g...

Apr 24, 202554 minEp. 31

Breaking Free: Accountability and The Healing Church with Sam Black

Pornography addiction is one of the most misunderstood struggles in the church today, often shrouded in shame and secrecy. Sam Black, Director of Recovery Education at Covenant Eyes and author of The Healing Church: What Churches Get Wrong About Pornography and How to Fix It , joins us to share how real freedom comes through accountability, grace, and informed support. Drawing from his journalism background and over 70 interviews with pastors, counselors, and people in recovery, Sam offers pract...

Apr 02, 20251 hr 9 minEp. 30

Helping Men Build Empathy After Betrayal with Dr. Anthony Walker

Dr. Anthony Walker joins us to share how he helps men navigate the healing process after betrayal. He provides insights from Help Her Heal , a workbook by Carol Jergensen Sheets , and discusses how men can develop emotional attunement, overcome resistance, and strengthen their relationships. Key Talking Points: What led Dr. Anthony Walker to Help Her Heal and how he incorporates its strategies in his coaching. The importance of emotional attunement in repairing relational trust and how men can d...

Feb 19, 202548 minEp. 29

Reality Collapse & Betrayal Violence with Hope Ray

In this episode, we welcome Hope Ray , a Licensed Professional Counselor who coined Betrayal Violence . Hope is a leader in the field of betrayal trauma, offering deep insights into the effects of secrecy, deception, and relational power imbalances. She is also the creator of Complex Partner Trauma magazine , available on Amazon, which provides resources and support for betrayed partners. Throughout our conversation, we dive into Reality Collapse , the disorientation that betrayed partners exper...

Feb 06, 20251 hr 9 minEp. 28

The Intimacy Pyramid with Joanna & Matthew Raabsmith

We had the privilege of sitting down with Matthew and Joanna Raabsmith to discuss the transformative power of the Intimacy Pyramid . With their personal story of betrayal, addiction, and healing as the backdrop, the Raabsmiths shared actionable insights and hope for couples looking to rebuild trust, connection, and relational intimacy. The Raabsmiths are passionate leaders in the field of marriage and relationship restoration . Combining their expertise with their lived experience, they empower ...

Jan 14, 20251 hr 1 minEp. 27

Rest, Redemptive Gifts and Unlocking Dominion Authority with Dr. Laura Sanger

We’re excited to welcome Dr. Laura Sanger back to The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast ! Dr. Sanger’s first episode remains the top fan favorite, and we are thrilled to have her return with another timely and profound message— this time focusing on rest , just in time for the holiday season. Dr. Sanger is a clinical psychologist, author, and the founder of No Longer Enslaved ( www.nolongerenslaved.com ), where she equips individuals to live free in their God-given identity, authority, an...

Dec 20, 20241 hr 6 minEp. 26

Post Betrayal Growth with Stacey Smith

On today's episode of The BRT Podcast, we welcome the amazing Stacey Smith. She’s the Chief Clinical Officer and a Clinical Therapist at Daring Ventures. With a personal recovery journey from betrayal and "stinkin' thinkin'," Stacey uses her lived experience and professional expertise to guide betrayed partners and those suffering from addiction toward healing. She is certified in EMDR therapy and specializes in helping people overcome attachment wounds and shame . Stacey is passionate about cre...

Dec 12, 20241 hr 7 minEp. 25

Resilience Through Betrayal Intensive with Elizabeth Abbruzza

We are thrilled to welcome Elizabeth Abbruzza , the Co-Founder and Clinical Director of the Bellevue Trauma Recovery Center , to the podcast. With a deep focus on relational trauma and betrayal, Elizabeth shares her expertise and details about the impactful Resilience Through Betrayal (RTB) intensives offered at her center. About Elizabeth Abbruzza: Elizabeth holds a Master's degree in Clinical Mental Health Counseling from Gonzaga University and specializes in addressing relational trauma, sex ...

Nov 13, 20241 hr 2 minEp. 24

Intimacy Atrophy with Karen Rellos

Introduction: Kris and Jenn sit down with Karen Rellos , founder of Restored Hope Coaching and Redeeming Love Marriage Ministry. Karen, a certified betrayal trauma coach, joins the conversation to shed light on a topic that affects many relationships— Intimacy Deprivation, also known as Intimacy Atrophy (IA). With her extensive background in helping women navigate betrayal trauma, Karen offers valuable insights into the causes, impacts, and healing journey surrounding intimacy deprivation in rel...

Oct 29, 20241 hr 4 minEp. 23

When Sex Addiction Becomes Abuse with Diane Schnickels

In this episode, we welcome Diane Schnickels, founder of Living Waters of Hope and a dedicated advocate for survivors of domestic abuse . Diane brings her extensive experience and compassionate approach to discuss when sex addiction crosses the line into abuse. She has developed crucial resources like the Oasis Bible Study and the Hope Giver Essentials training program, empowering women to heal and reclaim their lives. Today, Diane shares her insights on recognizing the signs of abuse related to...

Aug 28, 20241 hr 18 minEp. 22

A Message for Pastors & Clergy: Supporting Betrayed Spouses Well with Nick Stumbo

On this episode of BRT, we have a special guest, Pastor Nick Stumbo. Nick is the Executive Director of Pure Desire Ministries and has an extensive background in pastoral ministry. He began his ministry career at East Hills Alliance Church in Kelso, Washington, where he served as lead pastor for over a decade. Confronted with his own pornography addiction, Nick and his wife, Michelle, found hope and healing through Pure Desire’s counseling and group ministries. His public disclosure led to a revi...

Jul 28, 20241 hr 15 minEp. 21

Understanding Trauma with Debby Flanagan

Welcome to the 20th episode of The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast! This is a significant milestone for us, and we're thrilled to celebrate it with a special guest, Debby Flanagan . Debby is a clinician with Pure Desire Ministries, where she serves as a Pastoral Sex Addiction Professional. She holds a Bachelor's degree from Corban University and has an Advanced Certification through the International Institute for Trauma and Addiction Professionals (IITAP). Debby is dedicated to helping...

Jul 18, 202459 minEp. 20

The Four Phases of Healing After Betrayal with Tammy Gustafson

Join hosts Kris Rocha and Jenn Howie for another enlightening episode of The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast. Today, we welcome back Tammy Gustafson , a renowned betrayal trauma coach, therapist, writer, and speaker. Tammy is here to delve deeper into her " Four Phases of Healing After Betrayal, " sharing her expert insights and personal experiences. This episode is packed with valuable information, laughter, and heartfelt moments. About Tammy Gustafson: Tammy Gustafson is the founder o...

Jun 26, 20241 hr 8 minEp. 19

The Impact of Snooping with Dr. Jill Manning

In this mind-shifting, insightful episode of The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast , Jenn and I had the pleasure of hosting Dr. Jill Manning . Dr. Manning is warm, caring, knowledgeable, and passionate about helping women heal. Today, she shares her expertise on a topic she's passionate about ... the impact of snooping, especially in the context of betrayal trauma. Get your notebooks ready, friends. This episode is packed with excellent information, tools, and tips. About Dr. Jill Manning...

Jun 06, 20241 hr 12 minEp. 18

Supporting a Friend Through Trauma with Adrienne Friesen

Adrienne Friesen joins us on this episode about supporting a friend through trauma. She has been our friend for over 20 years and we can attest that she is naturally gifted at supporting and comforting friends during difficult and traumatic times in their lives. Today, she shares her wisdom and practical advice on how to be a steadfast friend during difficult times. Key Points Discussed: Active Listening: Adrienne emphasizes the importance of truly listening to your friends. It's not just about ...

May 23, 202457 minEp. 17

Story Spotlight: Author and Speaker, Tess Scott

Join hosts Kris Rocha and Jenn Howie in this special Story Spotlight episode of The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast. Today, they are honored to feature author and speaker Tess Scott , who shares her inspiring journey of overcoming shame and replacing it with forgiveness and stepping into God's purpose for her life. About Tess Scott: Tess Scott is a hilarious Christian speaker, a "black sheep turned Jesus girl", and the award-winning author of "Listen, Sister! Finding Hope in the Freaksh...

Apr 22, 20241 hr 2 minEp. 16

Secondary Trauma with Kris Rocha & Jenn Howie

Grab a coffee or your favorite cup of tea and curl up with hosts Kris Rocha and Jenn Howie in this enlightening episode inspired by Dr. Jill Manning's thought-provoking Instagram post on Secondary Trauma. This conversation balances depth and lightness as they explore Dr. Manning's list of secondary trauma examples. Key Highlights: Insightful Exploration: In this segment, Kris and Jenn delve into the nuances of secondary trauma, offering a deeper understanding of its manifestations and impacts on...

Mar 13, 20241 hr 3 minEp. 15

Generational Iniquity & Breaking Strongholds with Dr. Laura Sanger

In this POWERFUL episode of The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast, we are honored to host Dr. Laura Sanger, a dedicated scholar, prophetic intercessor, and spiritual warrior. Dr. Sanger brings a wealth of knowledge, blending her expertise in theology and clinical psychology, to delve into the profound topic of generational iniquity. Key Topics Explored: 1) Generational Iniquity: Dr. Sanger unpacks the concept of generational iniquity, offering profound insights into how the patterns of th...

Feb 20, 20241 hr 14 minEp. 14

How Grief Helps Us Heal with Hannah Wachter

On this episode of The BRT Podcast we're joined by the remarkable Hannah Wachter—a coach, encourager, and "a warm cup of tea for your grieving heart" with over fourteen years of experience as a grief expert. Hannah has a unique, personal journey that has equipped her with a compassionate lens to guide others and walk beside them in their pain, and help them heal. Key Takeaways: 1. Transforming Pain into Purpose: Becoming a grief coach after losing her mother unexpectedly is a testament to Hannah...

Jan 16, 20241 hr 5 minEp. 13

Reclaiming Your Life After Betrayal with Tammy Gustafson

Welcome back to another empowering episode of The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast! In this edition, we're honored to host Tammy Gustafson, a renowned betrayal trauma coach, writer, and speaker. With over 13 years of experience as a licensed professional counselor specializing in PTSD and trauma, Tammy is a fount of wisdom and healing. In this episode, she takes us on a journey of reclaiming our lives after betrayal. Key Takeaways: 1. Rebuild with Tammy's 4-Phase Process: Tammy Gustafson...

Jan 05, 20241 hr 6 minEp. 12

🎄✨ A Christmas Message from Jenn and Kris ✨🎄

This Christmas , we want to acknowledge the bittersweet reality that the holidays can be tough, especially when you're carrying the weight of betrayal and grief. In the midst of twinkling lights and festive cheer, we recognize that for some, the holidays magnify feelings of loss and heartache. It's okay to feel that ache, and it's okay to prioritize your healing during this time. Together, let's embrace the complexities, honor our emotions, and find moments of solace. Join us for a brief episode...

Dec 22, 20232 minEp. 11

Navigating Conflict: A Guide to Healthy Resolution with Andrew Arthur

On today's episode, we have the privilege of hosting Andrew Arthur, a seasoned conflict management expert , certified mediator, and CPS (Certified Co-Parent Specialist). Andrew brings more than 25 years of experience in coaching and guiding individuals through the intricate landscape of conflict. In this episode, he unravels the critical steps to healthy conflict resolution: Repair, Resolve, Reconcile, and Restore. Key Takeaways: 1. The Journey of Healthy Conflict: Andrew guides us through the t...

Dec 21, 202337 minEp. 10

Marriage Recovery and Pure Life Alliance Ministries with Jeremy Waldridge

Our guest on today's podcast is the Executive Director of Pure Life Alliance Ministries, Jeremy Waldridge. Jeremy shares a little about his own story, marriage recovery, the origins of Pure Life Alliance, and what the ministry is passionate about - helping couples recover and heal from unwanted sexual behavior and betrayal trauma. From their website: "Pure Life Alliance is committed to restoring wholeness for those affected by sexual brokenness. Our vision is to see lives change through a networ...

Dec 06, 202339 minEp. 9

The Benefits of Betrayal Trauma Groups with Ally & Sarah

Friends ... Jenn and I are so honored and excited to introduce you all to two incredible women, Ally and Sarah. They just happen to be two of our favorite women on the planet, and we have no doubt you'll have the same opinion of them by the end of this episode! Ally and Sarah opened their hearts and shared the experiences and benefits they realized from joining a betrayal trauma recovery group, reminding us all of the healing power found in shared stories, gathering trusted community, and compas...

Nov 08, 202345 minEp. 8

Internal Family Systems Therapy & Betrayal Trauma with Jenna Riemersma

On this amazing episode of BRT , we are honored to welcome the delightful and inspiring Jenna Riemersma! She is the founder and clinical director of The Atlanta Center for Relational Healing. Jenna, a distinguished teaching faculty member at the International Institute of Trauma and Addiction Professionals (IITAP), is a beacon of wisdom in the realms of mental health and trauma recovery. As a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), Level III Internal Family Systems (IFS) Therapist, EMDR therapist...

Oct 20, 202355 minEp. 7

Trauma & Self-regulation with Eileen Fagan

Therapist Eileen Fagan , an expert in trauma therapy, shares her unique approach to trauma and self-regulation, guiding us through an "order of operations" - SAFE - that can help navigate the stormy seas of emotional turmoil. Drawing wisdom from God's word and modern therapeutic techniques, Eileen sheds light on how we can find solace and strength amidst trauma. 1. STOP - Slow down and be still (Psalm 23:1): Eileen introduces the first step, encouraging us to pause amidst the chaos. Through stil...

Oct 03, 202339 minEp. 6

Building Resilience with Dr. Steve Stephens

We're honored to host the amazing Dr. Steve Stephens, a seasoned psychologist with over 35 years of experience and the author of an astounding 45 books! Dr. Steve is not only a renowned life coach but also a captivating speaker, university teacher, and a true expert in the art of building resilience and overcoming hardship. Join us as we embark on an enlightening conversation with Dr. Steve about a subject that lies at the heart of resilience. In a world filled with challenges, setbacks, and bet...

Sep 26, 202350 minEp. 5

Unveiling Your Story with Ashley Sears

On our 4th episode of The BRT Podcast, we're excited to introduce you all to Ashley Sears , the founder of Stories Unveiled ! Join us as Ashley shares her deeply personal journey, which led her to uncover the transformative power of storytelling and inspired her to create an annual conference dedicated to helping others find freedom and purpose in the telling of their stories. In her words, "The Stories Unveiled Conference was designed to break down the walls around our stories and create a plac...

Sep 20, 202349 minEp. 4
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