Witchcraft - Best of Coast to Coast AM - 1/18/23

author of Old World Magic for the Modern World. Patty has a popular weekly podcast called The Witching Hour and has launched her second weekly podcast called The Witch's Movie Covin. Patty is also a partner and vice president of paraflix dot com, which is a streaming service, and her book is called Old World Magic for the Modern World. Patty, welcome back to the programs about a couple of years it has. Thank you so much for having me back. I am thrilled and leading me in with the Stevie

Nick song nothing better, Jarge, you got that right. Lots to talk with you about. How did you get involved in witchcraft and the paranormal in the first place. Honestly, I think I was just born into both of them. As long as I could remember, I literally being a toddler. I was talking to spirits, and I may knew they weren't just the imaginary friend that you know, our modern Western non mystical society explains to us. I'm like, no, they gave me real information and it just didn't get

taught out of me. My mom was like, yeah, Grandma did that, so okay, So it's not a devil, it's nothing bad. And so also paranormal. If you see a ghost and talk to ghost, you're going to kind of fall into that world and on the witchy side of things. On the same end, I would be in our my little suburban backyard picking rosemary and picking mint and stuffing it in my mom's wallet, knowing it would bring her more money. She was not quite their understanding, like what

are you doing? No money, No, it's not money, it's weet, No, it's money. And years later I studied plants an apothecary, and I was right, you know, a little toddler running around. So it's just I think it's in the bluff and my imagination. Are more people becoming interested in the paranormal. More and more people are becoming interested in the paranormal bigger by the day, Like the show you know that I do regular ghost adventures. It's in like it's the

twenty sixth season or something like that. I don't know how to do the math on TV because it's like twelve years twenty. I don't That doesn't add up math wise. But no, look at every every station. Travel Channel is almost all the regular shows like not docuseries and not reality put on a paranormal aspect to it. I last year started UM a streaming service called Paraflix. It's like Netflix, but it's all paranormal with nine new programming because everybody

had already seen everything on Travel Channel and Discovery. Plus it's growing and growing and growing. Well, why the interest? I think a couple of things. One. I do think that the veil literally is stinning between the world, and more and more paranormal or unexplainable to the old fashion

of logical science is happening. More haunted houses, more things, and better equipment, all these where it used to be if I as a MEETUM was going and the ghost is waving their left hand saying hi, and people believe me or not believe me. Now there's this new invention called the n SLS camera that I'm in one room going the ghost is waving their hand left and right, and somebody in a different room with the camera is

showing a green stick figure doing the same thing. We are not in contact with each other, so science is catching up. So I think it's more stuff, is it? Literally, as we move into that age of Aquarius they sang about it in the sixties. It's a different world. It's not our parents world and parents parents parents world. The veil is center. So more stuff, better equipment. That kind

of start starting to prove it. And I think the other reason is the world is scary, and so people are want something to know there's something else out there. Have you ever had a bad, pure normal experienced, Patty, I have had a couple you have, Can you share them with us? Yes, I bladly will again. I've since I was a little kid, always believed that it's not overly's scary. I mean, there's good ghosts and bad ghosts.

But I've always had a respect. But whenever you get in trouble, it's like everybody wants to be respected humans and not humans or dead humans. I was doing a sance, one of the things I'm known for. We were actually filming a documentary in my neighborhood. I live in an old Hollywood Hills neighborhood from the nineteen twenties, and it was this very own haunted house. It had been built by Charlie Chaplin for one of his many girlfriends, Mary Aster Mary Aster House. She was an old silent film

and it was a super big party house. And in my experience, when you have a lot of maybe drugs and alcohol, it's kind of bringing in some darker stuff, but hals in old Hollywood. And then in the nineteen sixties, the Rolling Stones manager bought it, so the Rolling Stone stayed there, Mamas and Papa's, Graham Parsons, all these really creaty, you know, musical people. And then they moved out. And then the guy who invented the real life sex doll moved in, and then he moved out. And then my

neighbor for seven years, Marilyn Manson, moved in. So yeah, and then it got too scary for him. But anyway, so this house attracts creative, chaotic sometimes as dark people, but known for being haunted. And we were doing a seance and for a document three there were four cameras and young people around the table like when you're not too far into your twenties, but past puberty, I think your life force is so high you're gonna get more

and more paranormal activity, just like Poltergeis. Stuff always happens with teens. So anyway, with young people around the table, four camera shoots, and this one kid just kept getting disrespectful and I should have caught him earlier, but I'm like, okay, we're filming, this is whatever. And so first and I talked to the spirits because I raised a veil, and he said something really kind of idiotic, and the French door flew open. Everybody's kind of screaming. I'm like going,

oh wow, that's pretty major for this. Okay, close the door. And then he said something again, and then it happened again, like okay, and I'm just trying to keep it cool, but I've felt the agitation of this one spirit. It wasn't demonic. I think demons get way too much credit. It's like, was just a cranky, yes ghost, but really mad. And then and then he said something else, and then the speaker came on, you know old school speakers, those kind that you would sit by the radio. This is

a record player. The bigger the better. It came on like white noise. It sounded literally like a ghost box, a spirit box. Um. We looked later it wasn't plugged in. But this tension is building and I'm trying to keep control on it. But I hadn't. Um. We were using Luiji board, which I've used safely since I was seven. Um. But that's the problem. Yeah, we can talk about that too.

But the kids said something again. Really and not him, but the cameraman facing him burst into flames, like the cameraman burst in the flames for the camera cameraman, Yes, the back of him, like it looked like a v up his back like angel wings a fire or he was not standing in front of a fireplace. Hurt well yeah, burnt. Two cameras actually caught it, this guy spontaneously combusting. One

camera started filming like the ceiling or the floor. I think you test the metal of a cameraman by a small room with a lot of people bursting into flames and his camera. Poor guy, those first seconds, he's wondering. He's facing of course away from his back and wondering why the whole dreaming and pointing at him and myself you know cool, which medium patty becomes a medic patty, of which I am, I'm an emt a. I am

you gotta be. And I'm like Robin Roll and I'm calling in all my guardians and wards to shut it down. I'm like, we are done. I don't care what we're filming. This is not okay. No one bursts into flames on my watch. I'm like, oh my god, oh my god. His shirt burnt off him George, like it was a synthetic. It was a heavy cotton. It burnt off like it was a poly and I assumed there was no natural excuse for why it happened. Zero Now after Roll excuse, there was none, and we caught it. So but I'm like,

we are done. But the guy who caught on fire, here's a filmmaker. He's had a super skeptic he was so in awe that he caught on fire. He's like, I'm okay, I'm you're not okay. It's like I'm okay, I'm like you talk okay. He's like, no, look I have a sweater. He took off that burnt shirt. He's like, we could do this, so I you know, I tried to talk to the spirits. I'm like, we're not even done again, rid of you. I looked at the kid who caused all this, and he was no longer going

to be any trouble. He became like the choir boy in the corner, like never a word to speak once you see that. So um, Anyway, we finished it. Some more crazy stuff happened. A blast flowed out of the cupboard, the most paranormal stuff I've ever seen, and I've seen a lot doing this for decades all over the world. But the cool part of this story is, and why it turned into a good story, is the cat man.

Three weeks later, he showed me his back. He goes Patty looking my back and where the scarring had been from the blistering, it totally looked like he had got a tattoo of a dragon. Oh wow, that's how it healed, and healed into a tattoo of a dragon, into a yeah, open mouth, a sharp piece, winged head, into the shape of a serpent. And I'm was that permanent for him? Well? Yeah, well like but no, that is the exact energy I called in the shut down, the sance. I worked dragon magic.

It's crossroads energy. I mean, dragons have been around forever Chinese mythology, you know, every every Chinese magic mythology, everything. It's an energy. Why do you believe stroads? It's powerful? And I'm going, oh my god, you have a tramp stamp of a dragon on your back. That is the coolest thing I've ever seen. And he thought so too.

So the good done it yet is he was so inspired he actually wrote a film about it, about this TV psychic myself who does like every television show myself and then you know, shooting another reality show and then a portal opens, and if they ever do it, it's one of those kind of funny and scary that I like. But I literally they wrote it actually with Stephen Norrington, the guy who wrote League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and The Blade.

Cherry's so real, left of center Hollywood. But I did sit down with him this is another subject for like five hours. I'm like, Laurence, you can't say that. You can't say that in the script, you can't stay that on camera. He's like, Patty, but you said it. I go, I know, I said it. That opens a portal, that opens a gate. You don't want to be one of those first horror films. Do you what happens all the time?

A spirit and energy or whatever doesn't know the difference of an actor, you know, method acting off a line and somebody really doing it. You know, you don't want to be the one where all the actors I at twenty seven, so if they ever do do it. We changed anything that really would cause something to happen on screen to something that wouldn't but just sound just as scary. Well, in that case with the fire in the cameraman, Yeah, what did he do wrong to get abused like that?

I don't I think if we look into like just divine whatever, he didn't do anything wrong. It was it was they were probably shooting at the kid but hit him. The energy was probably going from behind the cameraman towards the kid, but stuped at the cameraman. But then if there's a bigger meaning behind it, the cameraman is the one who was going to it changed his whole thought pattern about spirits write a script which now will or won't ever get done. Um changed his whole life in

really positive ways. Have you ever been heard Patty in any of these things? Yeah? Just once, Um, it happened to me. I was at my own home, which is really warded because again, I am a witch, I am a medium, studied this my entire life. Were you going to get into your witchcraft in a second too? Going to go ahead? So so so it's really worded. But my old podcast, before My Witching Hour, I had one called the Magic Hour and it was kind of seance

meet true crime. And my producer at the time, we were going to do a thing about the Black Value murder. So I had Linda Deuts coming over. She's a famous AP Associated Press reporter who got famous from Charles Manson and right, okay, says Linda Deutsch, who's a dear friend of mine. So she was coming over, yeah with the best and a big believer in the paranormal and supernatural

and magic and she's one of my dearest friends. So anyway, he hadn't got there yet and the people were but my then producer wanted to again using the weavy board, but again I've used them safely since I was seven.

I'm going to keep saying that. But I didn't do my setup my protection because no one was there, and she had this one friend we talked to literally like texting always came in, but I hadn't set it up, and it wasn't her friend who came in it literally and I know it was doctor George Hodel, the black Dallie accused, but I know it was him. Murder. He pushed me into my dining room chair. I have these like three hundred year old antique chair so hard I

was standing behind it into my ribs. I heard this crack, crack, crack, and I'm sliding down to the floor and she's like, going, are you okay. I'm like, uh no, And I always say I'm okay. I could have like a limp cut off right now and I'd be like, I'm fine, it's a flesh room. Nothing. You don't complain about anything, do you. I don't, And I'm like, it really hurts. I had

to go to urgent care. And it didn't break ribs, which I thought, but it had even more painful in a sense it had ripped all the cartilage off my floating ribs and ribs hit by a spirit that hard because he's a doctor and news what he's doing. That was incredible story too, wasn't it. Yeah? Yeah? And again yeah, so much so that this the producer beautiful woman. I've worked with, award winning woman, I've worked within different things for ten years. She quit the next day. She couldn't

handle it, could she? She couldn't handle it? Somebody who It's so funny, and you see this all of the time, people who want so bad and want to see a spirit or want to see a ghost, or want to see an alien, and and then when they do, it's my blame since you've been doing that. Yeah, I mean, have has anybody around you other than the cameraman been hurt? No, no, no, I'm so careful. I'm just wondering if you're you're the

magnet here. Well, no, it's because, um, but where we go, just like if I'm doing a seance or raising the veil around my dining room table, or even at a pair of Connors, and it's we're gonna talk to grandma, and we're gonna talk to kid who died in school, and we're gonna talk to you all your loved ones, you know. For we were doing the Black Dahlia and at this house in Hollywood, this kid just got really rude and disrespectful, you know, on Ghost Adventures or with

my all my YouTube guys, without my overnight guys. You go to the you go to the prison, you go to the Asana asylum. Those are gonna be much meaner ghosts and you know, hanging out like my favorite ghosts at the Hollywood Roosevelt. Since they're having a good time. Maryland's hanging up a good time. They're hanging from the chandelier's partying. It's a I like sung Gast. Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at one am Eastern, and go to Coast to Coast am dot com for more