UFO's and Nuclear Sites - Best of Coast to Coast AM - 11/17/24

based here in Las Vegas. They built together this massive database and they went around the world collecting files. Most of that stuff has not been seen by the public. But one piece of information that helped persuade Senator Read to go ahead and risk his political career on sponsor a UFO investigation was the stuff that you put together over the decades. He read your book, and I know he read it because I gave him the copy of

it and we talked about it. And it's got to feel good for you that you were able to get to someone in power and they finally paid attention and took some action after all your years of toil.

book from you later on. So there's three other people that were giving the book back in eight that I don't know yet, but I'm in touch with, as I said, Loueli Zondo, who's been very complimentary of my work. I'm in touch with Jim Summavan, who is a retired high level CIA officer, who told me within the last two weeks that the book has had quote great influence in the US government end quote great impact, I believe was

the word he use. So yes, after this many years of working on this and trying to find out what's going on at the nuclear with the nuclear angle, and trying to publicize it, as much as possible. It feels good to know that it had some influence behind the scenes in the US government.

you guys messing around? Was this some sort of a a test of readiness at these missile silos to see how they would react if some unknowns came into the scene the situation. And the answer they got back is no. I mean, they did do some of those kind of tests, but most of these ones that happened that we're going to talk about now were not the Air Force. This

was not a test. It was truly unknown. Can you give our listeners tonight, those who are new to the topic, a general sense of the kinds of things that happen in those Northern tiercases and others. The quality of witnesses that you've talked to over the years and what they say happened to convince them that this was from somewhere else.

in October and November. But what I found in my research is that that kind of activity went on year after year, decade after decade, and the ones that occurred in seventy five that probably Congress knows about or the people who investigated this including a tip that's just a tip of the iceberg. I mean, this has gone on so frequently. I think the most dramatic case that I've heard was from nineteen sixty six or sixty seven. The

gentleman couldn't remember. His name was Captain David Schure schu u Are, and he was a missile launch officer at Mina Air Force Base in the late sixties. And in two thousand and seven he told me and I've got tape recording of all the interviews I've done. He told me on the record that one night in nineteen sixty six or sixty seven, he was at a place called Echo Flight, which was a ten flight ten missile group of missiles called a flight designated Echo, and suddenly he's

in the launch control capsule underground. He gets a call over the telephone from a top side guard who was just frantic, and there all the guards are watching this luminous object moving around from missile to missile among his ten missiles, and no center did David sure get this information. Then suddenly on his launch console, the missiles started going into launch mode. The lights launching progress lights they're called,

suddenly were illuminated one by one. He thinks that seven or eight of his ten missiles were impacted, and they had to flip what's called an inhibit switch to prevent the actual launch of the missile. Now they were terrified.

Obviously nothing like this had ever happened before, and he could hear on a communication system that linked his capsule with fourteen other capsules that this object moved from flight to flight to flight, and apparently all the other flights were impacted, at least as far as the object being in their vicinity. He couldn't remember in two thousand and seven whether those flights were had launching progress indicators. But you know that's crazy.

in the Soviet Union. I really stopped investigating this in twenty ten, primarily because of health related issues. But the last case that I investigated at length occurred October twenty third and twenty fourth, twenty ten at FB Warren Air Force Base in South Dakota excuse me, Wyoming. They have missile sites in North Dakota and Colorado and in Wyoming. But on that two day period in twenty ten, suddenly FIE Warren Air Force Base could not communicate with five

Launch control facilities. They call them missile alert facilities nowadays. So those if there had been a launch order from the President of the United States and E. Fie Warren had communicated to those five launch consoles, the capsules rather that they were to launch their missiles, those five capsules could not have gotten that order, I've learned. I've heard that there was a backup airborne system that could have

conveyed the order. But the bottom line was I investigated that and found from two sources who were a missile maintenance personnel at the base who went out and addressed the problem. They were witnessing all that night and into the following morning, a huge cigar shaped object maneuvering above the fe war and missile field. And I'm sure there was a link between the siting of this unknown aerial object and these disruptions that they experienced. So that's pretty

darn dramatic. The word leaked out. The Atlantic website actually published the story about these these issues, but there was no mention of UFO activity or a UFO presence, not surprisingly, and it was my subsequent investigation that discovered that that had gone on, and that eyewitnesses out in the field fixing the missile systems were reporting this huge object. So, you know, I'm sure that kind of thing has gone on since twenty ten, but I don't really investigate things anymore.

Force Office of Special Investigations. So when they got back from the field, back to whatever base they were stationed at, and you know, asked to describe what occurred, what they witnessed. The person doing the debriefing was the interrogation was an FBI agent or excuse me, OSI agents. So I attempted in the early eighties to get documents from OSI and was told unequivocally time after time that no such documents existed. I knew that wasn't true, So I'm more or less

focused over the years on just interviewing the witnesses. But people like Barry Greenwood, who's an excellent researcher, a document specialists, He and other persons have gotten documents that describe some of the cases that went on some of the incidents,

and it's clear they what's being released. Primarily, the ones that I'm most familiar with are NORRAT blocks North American Aerospace Defense Command loogs describing sighting reports by security personnel at these missile sites, describing safcare shaped objects, cigar shaped objects, triangular shaped objects capable of hovering and high speed hovering

around the missiles. And there's one document from that November seventy five timeframe from Monsterrom Air Force Base where it states in these NORAT will that jet fighters were sent out to the missile sites that were being impacted, and as soon as the jets arrived at the sites, the lights went out. The UFOs extinguished their illumination and were not visible, but as soon as the jets left the vicinity and went back to base, they re illuminated themselves

and kept surveying the missile sites. So some pretty dramatic stuff.

twice about this nuclear weapons thing. But I've also said that if they have a presence here on Earth, an ongoing presence, if they have bases here, if they have projects here, if they're involved in certain activities in the earthly realm, then a major nuclear war would impact their projects and their plans, you know, as much as it would impact human civilization. So their reasons may not be entirely altruistic. They may be self serving in the sense

that they're trying to protect what they've got going on here. Obviously, I don't know if anybody knows the answers. You know, they're at the Pentagon or the CIA, and they're not

talking to me. Lue Alizondo has said, and I believe he may have said this in answer to one of the questions that the committee meets this past week, he thinks what he's describing, what he interprets these visits to sensitive military facilities quote unquote, he thinks it could be what I believe the term he used was initial preparation of the battlefield, whereby these entities who pilot the craft may be intending something nefarious, something ominous, and they're more

or less checking out all of our sites, where do we have missiles, where do we produce you know, plutonium, and in Russia too, So who knows, Let's hope not. You know, I would want him, everyone should want him to think in those very cautious terms, because I don't think anyone has the answers, and we can't rule out that some of these entities aren't hostiles. So I'm glad that lou and the people in government are at least, you know, looking at things from that perspective. But I

hope that that's not the case. I hope that my interpretation of the situation is more to the point it's really going on.

They've been doing this now since the forties. I mean, I've had sources who were in the military in the nineteen forties talking about UFOs maneuvering around plutonium production sites and bomber bases, our first nuclear bomber bases. So if they were planning to strike and they were just checking out where the weapons were located and so on, they

would have done it decades ago. So I just can't buy into this interpretation that it's some sort of initial preparation of the battlefield as Lou describes it.

all those facilities. In the forties, they had UFO incidents, the green fireballs over atomic facilities in those days, I mean, right to the beginning of our atomic age trendity included there were UFOs flying around that And as you discovered, there were a lot of UFO incidents here in Nevada, the Nevada Test Site, which is the most new place in the world, I guess, and there were a lot of sightings, even though the AEC and DOE have said nope, we don't have any records on any of them.

And you mentioned the Nevada Test Site. Quickly I interviewed a man named Walter Levine who was a military policeman and air policeman at the Nevada Test Site in nineteen fifty five during one series of nuclear tests, and he said that he and three other persons in his squadron were taped for special observer duty and they were ordered to show up at this little shack out in the desert, and when they got inside, it had this very elaborate ranging equipment where you had a window with a grid

lines on the window with this device set up that they would look through like like a microscope or a telescope, and it would all allow them to determine the distance and the altitude of unknown areal objects UFOs that would appear upon a regular basis during these nuclear tests. And he went into great length about that. Gabe. You know, I've got all his credentials. I know he was in that squadron and did the work that he said it did, So that's pretty crazy.