Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast. George Norri with you, Paul Hamnan with us, and the later runs Cianne will join us. They're both lifelong contactees of the Zada race and have clear conscious recall of their contact, which begins that they work with in these beings that they are. They are both deep trance mediums working with
spirit guides to assist others. Paul's earliest memories of being visited by the Zadas are from when he was eighteen months old. Cianne's earliest memories of contact with the Zadas are from four years old, where she was introduced to a small boy of a similar age. She met the same boy on board a craft several years later. This boy ended up being Paul. Both she and Paul have the same shared memory of time on board craft, as well as many other shared and separate experiences on craft
being with the Zaida's. First of all, here's Paul with us. Paul, welcome to the program. Thank you very much. We appreciate it. Looking forward to this as well. How far back do you remember this episode when you were four years old. I've got very very good recall. I remember seeing the Zita's. You know, as a child, I would often go outside at night looking at this guy, sort of talking to these beings. Of course, back then there was no TV
that we had, you know, there was no Internet. Why, you know, I sort of managed to be talking to these beings that I wasn't even aware that our extraterrestrial was at that age, of course, but you know, obviously as I got older, I realized what was going on. Can you tell us how this started for you, Paul, what happened? Yeah, yeah, for sure. It was probably about
when I was eighteen. I was in Melbourne in Australia, and I was with a friend and we were in a unit, a block of units about three three stories up, and I was standing at the kitchen window looking out and a craft appeared about seven or eight meters across, and I said to my friend that was helping me do the dishes, can you see that? And he said that he could. And then the side of the craft was only about sort of ten meters away from the windows.
The side went clear and two extraterrestris appeared through the side of the craft and some of our friends had come to the house or the unit where we were. We let them in and they came over and they con see the beings as well. So this craft actually sat there for about five minutes and we were able to see these things quite clearly. We didn't even know,
you know, I mean, we've never seen anything like this. Then, when I was about twenty three, I woke up my morning getting ready to work, and it was, you know, the lights for our I got dress, I walked into the kitchen. As I reached out to turn the lights, which on, I heard a rustle in the corner, a noise, and this being lunged at me and grabbed me by the left arm. And I was pretty strong and I
started wrestling with it. Another being jumped onto the other side of me, and then I was sort of worried then and then the third being jumped on me and I went down, and that's how I remember. And I won't up thinking that it was a dream. Until I looked down. I realized I had my clothes on and my shirt was on backwards. When I was about forty years old, spirits started coming and I had no idea what was going on. It was just a complete disaster, and I was thinking to myself, you know, I I could
just get any worse. And then as I got a much older, about forty, I started to see the extraterresture of moving around my house. It was as if somehow the fabric for the energy around me started the shift to the point where I was now able to see them, but I couldn't contact them. I couldn't talk to them. I knew that they were coming into the house, but I had no way to be able to sort of
evidence that contact. I started to develop also as a medium, quite quite heavily at that time, doing deep trance work, and I had a group of people that would come to the house and stick with me, and they were telling me that they were seeing this extraterrestrial face over the top of mind. And so we put up some sort of small video camera and we were able to record this this space that was turning up. Someone said to them that I was speaking through me to the people.
Someone said, look, if you're who you say you are, then you know you should be able to bring a craft. You know, use aliens say that you fly around it in crafts. Not that it was a great idea and the extraterrestrial s, we will bring a craft. And so for about two weeks, every time I sat, they would
come and they would talk about bringing the craft. And I got to the point where I was I thought it wasn't going to happen, and I'd organized for a group of people to be there when the craft came because I wanted evidence, you know, I didn't want to have to start taking pictures. I wanted testimony to people to see it. What happened was you had about twenty people with me. We were in a big circle sitting on a property and the steam rolling and all the
dogs were howling on the property. It was massive, was property and the crimes planted in the beans came out and they walked around everybody, and a lot of the people that were there sort of anthetize, you know, there was something going on where they were not able to actually interact with the beings at all. They were able to sit down and keep their eyes closed, and other
people had their eyes open. But then some of them and myself included, I had my most open, but beings actually came and put their hands on their shoulders, so they were walking around us. The grounds was really rocky and so you could hear anybody walking around. There was about eight or ten beings walking around behind us. And then after that that occurrence of the class coming, Kathleen Martins contacted me and casts the wheeler, and so we
asked the Zitas. They said they would and then three days later they took Kathleene onto a craft and they held her permanently. That was really good for them to do that. About how many contact moments have you had with the Zitas? Hundred hundreds not craft landing of course, but actual contact with them. Many are they doing this with other people on this planet? I think that they are. But the problem that we've got is how complex the contact is. So a lot of the contact is buried
behind screen memory. And because it's buried behind some narrative, like some personal have a dream, they think they're in a craft, they think they're flying the craft. What will happen is is that personally to believe that they're in a craft, flying a craft, or dreaming about a craft, that that wasn't happening at all. They were given a
screen narrative by the extraterrestrials. I would suggest there's a large amount of people globally that are being contacted, but they don't know because of the screen memories would also channel the Zetas, don't you. Yeah, that's right. So I do public sittings. Generally thirty or forty people will come and they'll talk to the Zetas. And that's how a few where the books came about. So a scientist came and spoke to the Zeitas and we wrote a book
or a primate of the Zita race. And then the second book, which is about seven hundred pages, is called the Zita Interviews, and we give those two books away for free. Paul's website, of course, is linked up at coast to coast am dot com. It's called the Zeta Connection dot com. A couple of his books include The Zeta Race Inside the Hive Mind and also a primer
of the Zeta race as well. Would you say that the Zetas are friendly, Paul, I would suggest that the Zas themselves are friendly, or they look very much like some gray race, but they're actually not. Although they're part of a species of the gray species, they are not the actual grades, the ones that are accused of doing
all the abduction. So the Zea themselves of only being positive, have always been honest in their dealings with people, have done the healings that come when they said that they would, they when they said they'd bring a craft, they did. Basically, you can only ever take somebody at their word. Absolutely no, this is an amazing thing. Now, tell me about the relationship with the Sian, who we will meet shortly. I was contacted by Sayan many years ago and we started
to talk. She was telling me that she had extra trastrial contact. I hadn't didn't remember it all that I've met her on crafts and we started talking and a lot of the experiences she had, I realized that I'd had them when I was younger myself. She came across and did of fitting with the Zetas, and she realized that after talking to them that they knew things about
her that I didn't didn't know. And so when they told her that she had learned on craft and what had happened to her on craft, she knew that what she experienced was real as well. Sian and I definitely are people that look for evidence at any time we work with the Zadas or we say, you know that the Zia has come and healed somebody or whatever. We asked people to write testimonies and um, you know, sort of to evidence that process, Paul does, What does the
Zetas want with us? I would suggest that the Zis are looking to try to support humanity to be the
best that they can possibly be. They they see that on the timeline that the capacity for humans to have problems in their own development to move past that, you know, massive blockage that we have as a race and move into a new level of consciousness that in the physical three D state means that we need to have beings with us that can help us to identify what is a better type of consciousness to have rather than the one that is very three dimensional based in regards to
conflict and problems. You know, all these issues that are occurring on the Earth moment, Paul, when we earth lane cufos, sparke UFOs, what percent of them could be a Zeta craft. That's a massive question because a lot of the things that people see because so imagine this, You're looking into the night sky, you're doing C five and you're generating consciousness, and consciousness reflects back to a group of people or yourself.
What you want to see. You have a desire to see crafts, and so often consciousness will reflect back itself so to say, well, are these crafts from the zincas? Yes, there are crafts. Are these crafts constructs of the human minds?
They can be as well. So this is why when people see a craft, if you can see the craft by doing a calling in process like C. Five, they should be asking the craft to come in closer, much closer, so that ultimately they can have good evidence of contact rather than just seeing flashes of light in the sky. What do they think of us? They think that humans are the race have massive potential to be much better than they are. And it doesn't mean that there's something
wrong with the human race. It just means that they understand it in consciousness. How abilities are so high that each of us has the potential to be so much more that they would easily, you know, work with people. They like to spend giving information time, giving the information.
That's why that the informations in the books because and we give them away for free, because we want people to read the books and understand what is the potential of human beings to understand how to live in a relationship with this planet, and that's probably one of the most important things, Paul. Were your parents aware of this episode since you were eighteen months old when these were happening, they know what was going on? No? No, When I when I actually did speak to them about it, that
passed over Apple. When I had spoken to my parents about it, they knew something was going on, but they were too terrified to talk to me about it. I had to basically face it and go through it myself. How old were you when you attempted to talk to them about this? I started talking to them when I was about about forty. So they would come into the house and I would see them as a distortion, not as a full form physical being, and in doing so, I would talk to them and say, is there anything
that you'd like to talk to me about? Because obviously you always challenge your own cognitive state. Now am I seeing something? What is this really happening? You should always be challenging what's going on. And that's why when I got to the point where I was able to get them to evidence themselves by giving other people contact or healing or even better being in a craft, that's when I started to really work towards getting a better line of communication with them. What they did was they taught
me a method for contacting them. And that method is called heterodyning, and it doesn't have anything to do with CE five. That's a method that they prefer for contact because it has to do with like bindwal beats. But using consciousness to do it tell us a little bit more. How would you contact them in a different state of bind or something? Do you go into like a trance state?
So what happens is is every day you breathe. Breathing is the first thing that you do when you're born, and the last thing that you do when you pass over internally in your breath is harmonics, and those harmonics are very very subtle. Every time you breathe, you breathe a level of harmonics. And so if you understand how to use your breath work correctly, you can create a sustained level of energy around yourself. Once you do that,
we call it a spear technique. Once you create that spear, you can then populate it with your own consciousness and seek out contact with other beings. These heterodyne states are where you start to then interact with other beings. Now of course you need to evidence that because you don't know whether a spirit person coming to you or not, because spirits also use very a similar process to heterodyning, but a lot of that contact with them is mind to mind or mental mediumship. And so I suggest that
most people can learn how to do this process. But it's more about spending the time learning about your own energy, learning about how to breathe properly, learning about your harmonics, learning about how to hold your own energy, and also how to breathe correctly and go into those very clear states and stillness that the extra trust who was required for contact. Why then do they still cloak and dagger
and not make themselves so public to us? Yeah, that's that's a good question, the whole cloak and dagger things to do with them. I'm sure you've heard of Gary Nolan and he half to do some work with what are the effects of humans when they come near craft.
And what we've found is myself concluded when the zetas came, I would often in the beginning and get burnt, burnt on the side of my face or and so we have to work out, well, why is this happening, And it's to do with frequencies, and so the whole reason for the Cloak and Dagger is because if they truly came, the humans would do two things that either be physically harmed by the technology that the zitters has, or they
would probably black out. The person would go unconscious because their level of consciousness is fairly high, and when you're in their energy, their heterodyne state is so high that you, as a human would have problems staying conscious. And so most times you'll notice when they do contact people people are asleep. Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at one am Eastern and go to Coast to Coast am dot com for more