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And welcome back George Norri with Sydney Kirkpatrick. Award winning documentary filmmaker and best selling author. Sidney Kirkpatrick is a graduate of Kent's School in Kent, Connecticut, Hampshire College at Amherst, Massachusetts, and NYU Film School. His latest book, Edgar Casey an American Prophet, is the definitive biography of Edgar Casey, who was best known as the Sleeping Profit in Sydney. First of all, thank you for keeping the memory of Edgar Casey alive.
Now it's all students of the Casey readings, all researchers had you to thank for informing keeping your listeners so informed about this Edgar Casey.
It's exciting. I mean, he's one he was. He was one of a kind.
Wasn't he one of a kind? And you on your show in years past, you know you've had both of his sons, Edgar Evans Casey and Hugh Lynn Casey, and his grandson you've interviewed. I mean, that's really remarkable and it's helped so much to carry the greater message forward.
How did he get his incredible ability Sydney, Well.
You know, you could trace it right back to a childhood incident when he was playing baseball, you know, in elementary school. He got hit in the back with a baseball and it seemed to knock him unconscious. But the strange thing about it was he could carry on a conversation. He foretold who would win the next presidency. He revealed things about his teacher, his elementary school teacher, that a student his age would have no right to know. But
you know that was not explored. He seemed to get better. The next morning. He actually diagnosed himself, told a position how he should be treated. And it wasn't for many years in his twenties when he was hypnotized that this strange third other you know, came back. So he was hypnotized and again could carry on conversations, and yet at the same time he couldn't be He was impervious to sort of being shaken out of it. At one point,
physicians testing him with stick needles in his skin. In one egregious case, they pulled one of his fingernails out and he didn't as much as flinch. He was like he was in a deep, deep coma, and yet he could answer questions.
Yeah, he explained to us, Sidney, the method he used to come up with these incredible things that he talked about, Atlantis, the Pyramids, health issues, all kinds of things. What was his methodology?
Well, it evolved over the years. At first, you know, he was getting hit by a baseball, knocked out, and then he was hypnotized. What made all of this so remarkable was that he internalized the process and it evolved. He learned to put himself into this deep trans state. And once he was in this trans state, I mean,
it really was incredible. Hard to believe. You know, he wasn't your eight hundred psychic phone line in speaking vague, ambiguous terms, but specifics name states, locations, and in terms of the medical readings, which is perhaps even the most remarkable. He talked about specific body parts, blood type, and temperature. You know, he would be given the name of George Nori and he would essentially go organ by organ through your body, diagnosing the illness. And again it's the specifics
that made such a big difference. Blood type, body temperature.
Well, they called him the Sleeping Profit. Was he alert? Did he know what he was saying?
No, and he had to be told afterwards what happened. And it became easier once the system got more defined and they could hire a stenographer. But for the first you know, several hundred readings, it was a crapshoot, and it was a sort of trial and error process. Say, to see what worked like, you had to learn to ask specific questions to him. You couldn't ask these generalizations.
He died in nineteen forty five Sydney. It was way before we had social media, way before television made it as big as it is. We had radio at the time. But how did the media handle him? Was he well known?
At various points in his career. He was well known, and the New York Times did the massive front page spread which made him a sensation at that time. And he grew up in Hopkinsville, Kentucky, which was a relative relatively small area remote, but hundreds and then thousands of people would eventually visit Hopkinsville and try to get these trance readings from him. In charge for what he did, he believed it was a gift from God and then it was to be shared.
I still use his remedies for so many different things. I mean, I just every time I want to be able to just prevent something, I read information on Edgar Casey, like almonds to fight cancer and stuff like that, and I do it.
Yeah. This was recently brought home to me because I had a gallbladder operation which went south.
Oh my god, when did that happen?
Oh? Just in the last year and a half?
My god?
And I was actually in a hospital bed for a year and a half.
Oh my god, said, I didn't know that, But you know.
What told me through not only my devoted wife Nancy, with whom we collaborated on education American prophet, but we used Casey remedies. And you know, before that time, I was, you know, obviously more than familiar with his life story, the compelling elements of the life story, but I never had to rely on the medical readings themselves as we did this time. And and boy, I swear it saved my life.
That's fantastic. How soon did things kick in when you started doing his uh remedy recommendations?
Uh It's it's difficult to actually pinpoint times because uh so many of the recommendations were building up your immune system, yes where you know, uh so so with the were secondary and sometimes it took months. I mean, now I'm over it, I'm out of the hospital, but I've got to build up my muscle because you know, I've been on my back for so long.
My previous guest is an expert on Egyptology, and his name is Robert Schock, and you know, he's been to the Pyramids, he's been to the Sphinx, and he brought up you and Edgar Casey. Casey talked about the hall of Records at the base of the Sphinx, and they have indeed found an enclosure down there. They haven't gone in there, but they have found some kind of structure where Edgar Casey said it was.
Yes, amazing, And I mean, well, that's what's so spectacular why Casey is so important to study, because things, especially medical things he said, and what he said about reincarnation, which was dismissed as science fiction in his time, you know, has since proven out. Obviously you can't prove reincarnation, but there's enough scintillating details, you know, like the study has done at UVA to suggest that indeed, you know, there's
truth to it. So in many respects, this is a spectacular time to study Casey because science and medical science especially is catching technologies catching up to these readings, and we have so many to go on. I mean, because he was surrounded by physicians so early in his life, there were witnesses to these readings and then eventually full time stenographer. So today we have you know, some fourteen thousand of these readings that are anywhere from two pages
to ten twenty pages in some instances. So we have this incredible record with which to study. Nancy and I often bemoan the fact that we were we came in late to the Casey work that Casey had already passed, and we would never get our own reading.
You know.
However, as we continue to study this, we realize it now is the time to start seriously. You can accomplish research in ways that were impossible to do in Casey's lifetime. Absolutely, Plus Casey had his firewall built up, and they didn't attach names to the readings in the Casey vault.
How accurate? Yeah, how accurate, Sidney? Do you think he was? Percentage wise?
Most of the time They easily in the ninety percentile.
That's remarkable.
But you know what's you know, things that again were considered science fiction. Uh, now in many places a state of the art medicine. Like what he was saying about psyriasis, you know, the skin condition. Casey very early on said that it was not a skin condition, but that was a symptom of a deeper, greater problem, that the colon was leeching toxins into the system. And to cure yourself or treat yourself for zariasis, you had to go on a strict diet.
He was right.
Another I mean the most recently is light therapy. Casey recommended all manner of different light therapies because was non invasive and could easily be treated using different kinds of lights, infrared lights, there's something called a violet ray. But again, all kinds of new evidence suggesting that indeed Casey was right on the money.
Sydney, How did Elvis Presley and Marilyn Monroe come into the Casey story?
You know, there's so many famous people, are important people, influencers associated with Casey, but they all come from different backgrounds. Certainly Elvis Presley, uh was a big student of Edgar cases And actually, on the night he died on his bedstand was a book on.
Edgar Casey was it your book.
No, Oh, look, gosh, I wish it was. There's speculation that it has been, but I couldn't say for sure. How about Marilyn Monroe, Yeah, well Marilyn Monroe started using beauty aids recommended by Casey. You know, the case He covers such a wide variety of subject matter. I mean almost anything you can think of Casey commented on, including like the Bible. You know where Casey would say, well, that's not really how it happened. How it happened was
or Jesus didn't say this, he said that. And but anyway, so you know, you have beauty aids as well as the Bible, as well as reincarnation, astrology. Glorias Swanson, the great film star, remember Sunset Boulevard. Glorias Swanson turned Marylyn onto the Casey work. And you know you could look at photographs even late in life. I mean, I think Glorias Swanson lived to be over one hundred.
Confirm this story I heard said they a long time ago that Edgar Casey was once getting on an elevator. The door opened and he saw a group of people in there, and he used to be able to read auras he could not see any auras of any of the individuals, and backed out of the elevator. He got scared the elevator door closed.
That's fascinating. Yes, Hugh Lynn, who was with him that day, Edgar Casey's son, often shared that story.
And apparently the elevator door shut in the cable snapped or something like that.
Yeah, and elevator crashed to the bottom and they all died. You know, that was that was It was not entirely unique in the Casey worked. There was during that same trip to New York where the elevator had the problem, Casey was at a diner and waitress serving him put the food down and Casey looked up at her and said, don't go. And you know, she's like, what are you talking about? Don't go? And he said, you're thinking of taking a drive out out to Long Island or you know, out of the city.
Yeah, And.
She was confused and like, who is this guy? And you know, how would you know that that's what I intended to do?
And why is he telling me not to go?
You know, right? And she didn't go, and her boyfriend who did go.
Got in a terrible car accident, Oh my god, and she would if she could have died right, unbelievable. Lots to talk with you about Sydney as we talk about the life of Edgar Casey and the latest book I have from you was written and published in twenty nineteen. Edgar Casey an American prophet. But I remember having you on coast to coast like almost twenty year.
There's a go yes, uh you on the debut of that book. Uh. We We've also written true tales from the Casey Archive, which is a compendium of the people who had readings and and and that provides all kinds of really interesting insights because sometimes you you well, it puts the readings that were given in context. Uh. For example, the one I like to use is Lamar Jones. And this is a reading which you you might just breeze through, flip right through, because it doesn't seem to there's nothing
super dramatic or obviously insightful. But then if you realize that, uh, this is for an artist in Casey's talking about art and the power of art to affect people's lives and affect family's lives. But then if you dig down to find out who received that reading, you discover that Lamar Jones is a tombstone cutter in Selma, Alabama, and he's the most sought after tombstone cutter because he uh capped somehow uh in what's written on the tombstone as well
as the artwork. The angel. Uh. One of his most famous ones is a you know, is a marble angel with wings. That's what Casey is talking about the power of art. And you don't have to have a you know, a paintbrush, uh to touch people's lives in that way. And that's what you know Casey is talking about in that reading. And so it comes into context.
And Casey always didn't listen to his own advice, did he.
Well, he was obvious, now you know, he was all too human. Uh. And you know at times he was lazy and you know uh uh he had a fondness for cigarettes. I mean he was chain smoking. And actually there you know, uh, cigarette readings are are really interesting. Uh. There's there's one reading it says it's the toxin's you know, it's the additives put into cigarettes. Uh, you know that
are the most harmful. I'm certainly not going to advocate you know, smoking, but it's just an interesting little insight but he's you know, it's for a man. He struggled. He struggled his entire career. I mean, and and you can understand why, you know, on a personal level, when you you know, when he entered into trash trans he had no idea what he was going to say, and he only had to be told afterwards what he'd said.
So you know, he was always fearful of harming, uh, someone he loved or someone who wanted help by by something he said.
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