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George Noori with You, Sandra Champlain with us. Of course, she heads up Shades of the Afterlife on the Paranormal Podcast Network, Sandra. Reason Number three that Raymond Moody and Paul Perry say that there was life after life is called the transforming light. What might that mean?
Well, we often hear of the light at the end of the tunnel.
Aha.
Many people experience this light. Some people call it God. Some people it's just this overwhelming sense of love. It's such a feeling that people cannot put it into words. It's not a light that blinds you, It's a light that loves you. There is a little boy story that I know. I met the dad and the boy had
actually drowned and been resuscitated. And the way this three year old boy described it, it was a face in the sun, you know, it was just so bright, telling him it was time to come back home to daddy. Wasn't his time to die? My words, But it's just this tremendous, bright, bright light. But it equals love.
Interesting Number four, This one I don't understand.
Terminal lucidity Terminal lucidity is just before some people pass and people can be unfortunately like mentally dead due to dementia.
They could have their mind filled or their head filled with tumors and there's no medical explanation for this. People can open their eyes, talk to their relatives, their loved ones in the room, giving people hope that there was a miracle that these people are back to life. They can say they're goodbyes. They talk like they have been aware of everything that's been going on, like I said, giving people hope that they're getting better, but then they
pass away. So it is this burst of energy, burst of clarity which tells me our consciousness cannot be in our mind if our mind has already our brain has already shut down. So it's pretty extraordinary and I'm studying.
More of that reason number five of seven. This is interesting. Spontaneous muses healings and skills.
Yes, well, the muses are people like guides. People have these experiences that they feel like they're either Earth angels or people that are in the other world that give them advice on their life, show them direction. Perhaps they're part of the life review. They can give them direction as to what they may be good at So there's a story in the book about a medical doctor who had this incredible urge to play piano and became a
concert pianist along with being a doctor. So this brand new skill seemed to just come out of nowhere with him. And then healing is like people like Anita Morjani who
wrote the book Dying to Be Me. Yeah, she had stage four cancer with given last rites, it was over, and then all of a sudden she experienced being in beyond so many things, beautiful, beautiful stories she has, but she completely healed under the agreement that she would come back to Earth and let people know that there is a much bigger picture to life, that there's an afterlife, that their life is for a purpose.
I'll be interviewing, of course, Raymond Moody and Paul Parry next Monday the eleventh, and Sandra has them already on her Shades of the Afterlife podcast if you want to listen to that reason number six Light, mist and Music, George.
This can be just before someone passes, loved ones are in the room experience some experiencing with the dying person is experiencing they can actually see a light or a glow that is around their loved one or in the room, which could be you know, a loved one coming to visit and help them across the veil, or this mist
hearing music. There's been doctors and doctor Moody will tell you more about this that have seen this light and this mist that would rise above a person after they've passed, kind of swirl in the room, create a funnel and if there's a window there, go towards the window, could go towards the ceiling. And this to me signifies the soul leaving the body.
Is it the ectoplasm.
I don't think it's ectoplasm. I think it is a spiritual light that we see with our our mind's eye. And I asked them, do they think that because George, when my dad passed, I didn't see any of that. I didn't, and I wondered if it was because my brain was ful filled with everything that was going on, fights with my siblings and you know, the fear of losing dad, and you know so much. In twenty twenty three now, we're so addicted to technology and we're not
in that present moment. So I thought maybe being in the present moment, we would be able to experience this, and Paul Perry said, no, we really need to have empathy. The more empathy and the more feeling we have, the more he thinks that we're able to experience. So maybe it's a combination of two of the two. Really being in the present moment and really paying attention to our feelings and feelings is how mediumship works. I've taken enough classes in that to know that we have to pay
attention to our feelings. So tying in all of that, perhaps that's when we get to experience the light, the mists, and the music.
Neat of course, reason seven is the very strange, the psychomanteum, very very strange.
Yes, And doctor Moody will tell you stories about how he found out about that ancient Greeks or something. But back in the day when he had medical students he was teaching, he devised a way that a mirror would be in a room. It would be a darkened room, maybe a little red light on, and having the mirror not straight ahead so you're not looking right into the mirror,
but the mirror is just above your gaze. And then being in that meditative state, maybe seeing a loving prayer to a relative, and he thought that what might happen is people would have thoughts of their loved ones. Well with himself and his medical students, many actually claimed that they saw or they felt their loved one actually in the room with them. So that's something I have not yet tried, but I would really love to explore it. We human beings are so powerful. I know that we
are souls. Having a human experience that we are have not tapped into our soul ability. So I think what we can experience in the afterlife, a lot of it we can probably experience here, but we don't know we can. So I'm really looking forward to experimenting with this psychomantium. Hard word to pronounce, but it's a cool thing.
It is a weird thing too. Yeah, we're going to take We're going to take calls next hour with Sandra. We're opening up the lines right now if you want to start lining up, but as we talk about life after life and share your stories with us if you want, or a question or two for Sandra. What if we're all wrong about the afterlife? Sandra, what if there's nothing?
Well, George, if there's nothing, it'd probably be like going to bed at night with no dreams.
And that's it.
That's it. But all signs for my twenty five years and doctor Moody sixty years all point to something, and I think it's going to be incredible.
If I had the bet, I would bet that there is an after life, I would too, and I think we'd win that bet, don't you.
Uh huh. But we can't push this on anybody. I know we want to, but I think people have to look for this information themselves.
Of course we'd have to come back and collect it.
Yeah. Absolutely.
Do you believe that if there's life throughout the universe, and I do too. I believe that that they are going through and they're wrestling with the same questions about life after life.
Probably so probably So. You know, I spoke earlier about that little voice we had in our head, the ego you know that has us be skeptical when you think of this ever expanding universe and they say there is a star like our sun for every grain of sand on this Earth, and there's tons of tons of galaxies and planets and everything, like, we can't grasp that. And then also if we were to put a little camera into one of the atoms that make us up. All we are is vibrating energy, right, So I think it's
a pretty big illusion that we're real at all. But you know, it is real and it ties us into this game of life. But out there somewhere, I completely believe there's life. And if there's life, I would think it would pose its series of difficulties and love and pain and all those and just by being a being, I think you start asking your questions. You know what else is there and what's possible?
So I think, so, Sandra, this is a program based on we're almost like family, the guests, the callers, everybody. You know that. And we've got some callers that have been what I would call regular participants of the program over the last twenty plus years that have simply fallen off the face of the map. They haven't called us. Nobody knows who they are, where they are. And there must be five or six of them who were regular, staunch callers that over the last year and a half
have simply vanished. They would call two three times a week to get on the program, to talk to guests like you, or participate in open lines, and they're just gone. And Tom and I were talking about it this weekend. I think I think something's happened to them. I think they're gone.
They very well could be. But you know, it's tough being human. And what you guys have created is a family with coast coast AM and like you said, they call in several times a week. People, we have a need to be part of something and your show is that something. But there are also times when we get into our head a little too much and we kind of break that tie and we need to pull them back in, you know, let people know that their loves that they're needed. So, yes, they may have transitions, they
may be ill. You just never know. But I do believe in the power of prayer. I do. I do believe miracles as possible, So I think I can maybe we all can just send out a loving thought that they come back home, and maybe next week you get a call and surprises you that they're back.
I would hope they lost their cell phones or something and they didn't have any way to get back on the air or something. Right, my gosh, what about reincarnation. What are your thoughts on that?
Well, it's interesting because I'm I go I don't say both ways on reincarnation, but there's people, as you know, we'll believe we come back. Ian Stevenson did a ton of work and has a gazillion stories of reincarnation. And there is also the thought that we human beings are highly mediumistic. So what we think is us being reincarnated could be that person coming back and we're tapping into them. I know we live in a time of recycling, and I'm really good about putting my cans and bottles out.
I would love to believe that our life here, if it is so good being on earth, and this is just this place where we can gather so much good stuff for our soul that if you know, you say a child passes, you know that few months here is all there is, you know, and then they go on, well they only got that one chance. I don't know. But then you know, you don't want to tell a mom whose child has just passed that they're not going
to see them in the afterlife because they've reincarnated. So I am of the feeling that if reincarnation is real, that it doesn't happen to everybody, or it doesn't happen to every everybody right away, that we will be reunited with our family members and if we want that opportunity to dip our toe back in the water of Earth,
that we can certainly do that. And when you think of the population explosion, if there's only been reincarnation, you know, fifty years ago there were four billion people on the planet and now.
We're double that.
So where'd all these extra souls come from? Right, if it's only reincarnation from the guff So, I think when we transition, we continue to grow, we continue to learn. I do think, because there's a several of my episodes I've done on reincarnation, and I don't tell anybody what to believe. You know, you believe what works for you,
that empowers you in this life. That's the thrust out of everything, you know, helping people through grief, helping people believe their loved ones and we go on, but then also having a powerful life while we're here. You know, what I may say might not fit for everybody, but if parts of it does, will use it. And there's one really incredible story, and I can't remember all the details, but it was a little boy from a very young age was telling the story as if he was somebody
who worked in Hollywood. He was one of the extras. So you know, so many people say they're reincarnated, I was Cleopatra, you know, always these big famous people. But this little boy, who would have had no knowledge of Hollywood was telling all of these stories and there was something like forty seven details that he got correct out from a man who was a Hollywood extra.
That's amazing. And remember the story about Line Insured, the little pilot boy from World War Two, that too, is incredible.
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