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Plasma UFOs - Best of Coast to Coast AM - 12/27/24

Dec 28, 202417 min
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Guest host Connie Willis and paranormal researcher Jeremiah Horstman explore his discoveries on plasma UFOs and orbs, whistleblower reports of massive underground military bases, and the possibility of a major UFO disclosure in the next two weeks.

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Speaker 1

Now here's a highlight from coast to coast am on iHeartRadio tonight.

Speaker 2

Another great friend of mine, Jeremiah Horseman, we're talking about. You know, he's out there in Sedona. He's looking up all the time, he is checking out all the areas. I was out with him. It was almost last year this time in about a month, right, It was in December of last year with you guys, and you guys were showing me everything. We got to see some of

the UFOs that you're talking about with Melinda. We were on Bradshaw Ranch with Tom Dongo and we all had our own experience at Bradshaw Ranch where something we were Jeremiah backed me up on this. We were totally the Scooby Doo gang. All three were standing inside the ranch right and as we were doing that, something ran up to the side of that house and beat up on the side of the house and then came around the front part where the door was, and we didn't see it.

We didn't see it, but the door creaked just like the best haunted house creak ever in the world. And then it did it again, and we were looking right at the door, which had window glass panes, and we didn't see anything.

Speaker 3

That that particular night. Describing it as the Scooby Doo Gang is definitely the best way to put it. We were all kind of huddled together and hunched down, and it shadowed like a beefy big hand pounding on the walls outside and not at human level. It was up higher on the yes, and I remember when the door creaked open, it was like a sound bite from a Hollywood fifties movie of a haunted house door opening. It was creaking as open. I have never seen that before.

We've been investigating that ranch for twelve years and we're out there at least once, sometimes twice a week. I've never seen that door move like that without an actual pair of hands pushing it. So that was a hot night to be out there, and in a good night to especially to have you out there so you get experience it too.

Speaker 2

That was so great. I think it was one of I absolutely think it was a big foot. I totally think it was a big foot, but I think it was. You know, we were talking about if you attract them anyway, they already know who you are, they know you're coming, they know everything about you. So to me, I think a lot of times are like, Hey, my friends in Alabama and my friends in Colorado, that's Connie. They know, hey, we've heard about you know what.

Speaker 3

They know who's there, and sometimes you know who's coming even before you get there. These creatures are on such a different level, and it's finally starting to come out with a lot of people that investigate the big boot creatures. And it still causes controversy, of course, because there's still people out there that want to see them as a simplistic extension of the ape or a long while. Yeah, and it's a lot more than that.

Speaker 2

It's way different than that, way different. So let's go to the plazama UFOs, because when I was on that last trip last year, we were looking at that with Melenda, right, we were looking we saw some of those in that brief time we were there. Do you believe the plasma UFOs are that you're seeing? Are they man made? Are they man flown? Are they something other than that?

Speaker 3

That's the best question of the day. And we now do have the answer definitively. And I can't go into exactly why we know. That's like to come out a little bit later because of the ongoing investigation. But I can say that with the number of whistleblowers that we've got and a number of people that are working on the team, the plasma craft seems to be one of the main things that is being worked on by a certain military contracted firm, which is the most well known

firms that make experimental aircraft. And I could I'll say it that way with all that and actually mentioning their name, and I think most people will know ex athlete what I'm talking about when I say it, And that is one of the firms that is located in this area, and I think it's probably the chief firm that's working underground out there, with a number of other firms that

are there are support facilities working with them underground. Now to go back not even a week ago, December twentieth, when you.

Speaker 2

Say firms, are you talking those three.

Speaker 3

We were driving away.

Speaker 2

Wheremiah Jeremiah Jeremiah, Just real quick before you get into that, when you say the firms, are you talking the CIA N say the three how do you say it? The three letter?

Speaker 3

Well? Yeah, now what you're talking about even more than that, these these firms where the government got tricky or I should say, anybody yet the Department of Defense got tricky is during the high of the nuclear age, the army was actually downsizing. So we're talking about post World War two, so forty seven to the early fifties, and the in down sizing, they were not pitted to spend a whole lot of money. So they didn't have the best thing

you like they did during World War Two. They didn't have the best chemists, they didn't have the best biologists working for uh, the Department Offense and the Army directly.

Uh So what they did and a lot of people listening already know this, but what they did in short was to subcontract to private firms, civilian firms, and those firms were given security clearance, which is probably the biggest because those firms have actually been uh drunken or poisoned by you could say they were made drunk by too much power. Uh. They wielded all in the name of national security. The phrase national security or and the name of national security is become the blank chap to get

their way for whatever they want to do. These are the types are firms that are out there, including a bio engineering firm that's underground and the whistleblowers that are coming forward now are telling us a number of naming a number of the firms that are out there, and these guys are scared when you when you hear the fear that these people that are brave enough to come forward, and a few of them came forward because of listening to your show, Connie. So that's how crucial you have

investigative efforts from people. The show itself is because it's bringing other people out who want to tell the truth. In the case of the these firms that are out there, one of the chief forms of propulsion that seems to be admitted by this particular firm that works on in aeronautics specifically is plasma driven craft. So now to get

to quickly about the plasma. If you look at the photographs that we took at the Sycamore Gap with Melinda Lesley, we were looking west from the Sycamore Gap, which is to the northwest of town in a very very rugg and remote area. It's very hard to get to. You need a four wheel drive to get out there. We knew the time that they're be coming up. We knew that we would have a go advantage point out there. We hadn't been out there before to watch for them.

But sure enough, almost right on time, we had set up our chairs and here they come up over a distant hill to the west, and they were coming up in pairs, which they so often do. Now when they come up, we're looking at an amber color or a reddish color. So now I'm not a scientist, but in listening to some of the other scientists that are out here and observing these things too, they're saying, yep, this is definitely plasma. And you know how we know. They said,

plasma changes colors because of photons. The photons which were admitted when the electrons recombined with the ions, created the wavelength of the photon, and that determines the color. Now we're seeing this reddish hue or this amber hue, and that's actually considered cool. So they've just taken off when they're rising up from their launch sites, which is these

few sites that are their most vulnerable spot. It's the most vrbable spot, of course, because they have to come up from underground somewhere to test these craft and put them in the air. And I'll get to that later. But the reddish shoe or the you've heard me say before, the amber colors you like when you were here watching with Melinda and Alexander and I from up near Jerome. The red issue is most common, so that's what most people are seeing the ambersview. That's actually cool temperatures for

these plasma words. The photographs I sent you, you'll see we zoomed on a couple of them. They kind of look like the sun. Now, these people that are photographing the orbs that seem to be interacting with some of the drones or seeing the same sky that the drones are being seen in New Jersey and other places in the East Coast, they've got some really good high definition photographs to them then, and they look like the sun.

And that's because it's plasma. So the plasma itself when it gets hot, so when these machines heat up, they actually change color from this red to amber to their hotter colors, which is actually blue. Now when they go beyond the bluish queue and they're at their hottest, they burn in a white and we see those here too, So you'll see in the photographs that I sent, which you will put on your website, there's some blue streaks because they're in motion. They move pretty fast. Yeah, that

are actually completely heated up after takeoff. The ones that's just taken off, and again they're in pairs, so they'll be like a point man followed by a wingman and almost a tactical formation. These are the ones that are just heating up. But the hottest form of the plasma is white, and if I remember correctly, I think that the if I was to go to celsius, because that's what most people were describing it. When it's amber, it's

about seven thousand degrees or several thousand degrees celsius. When it gets to the white and blue and the other very high heat, it's about tens of thousands of degrees celsius. So you can imagine the amount of power that these things are putting off to take off. And this has been what this firm is working on out there for a long period of time. Now, if we go into the background of it, people want to know why are

they here. Now there's a mixture that of two sources of the things that people see here in the Soun area, there are genuine NHI or non human intelligent craft that are being piloted here. They make up probably less than ten percent of what people were seeing in the sky here. The majority, about ninety percent or more, are actually advanced test craft. So I took the initiative at one point and I sent an email I got a shot, it just was shot in the dark to a very well

known Air Force intelligence man. I described where we were investigating, where I've went, and where I've been investigating for the past twelve years, and I asked him, simply, can you help me out. I'm working on an investigation. It's a collaboration. This is what we're seeing. We are quite certain that it is human pilot craft. Can you confirm or deny that this is what this is? The gentleman was very kind. He got back to me when I didn't think he would.

He said, give me about a month and I'll get back to you. And I'm thinking of myself, of course, and I just gonna.

Speaker 2

Be yeah, right, yeah, you know, government man.

Speaker 3

Why should you bother talking to some jump in Sodona? Exactly almost exactly four weeks and he said a very brief femail and he said more or less that he had done a detailed analysis of the area that we mentioned, and I kind of gave a Boxton idea of the area where most of these things are seen, so between Williams and ash Fork, and then south of there to the Megas Mountains, Chino Valley, Polden, and of course Sadona, Cottonwood,

and Camp very Day. It encompasses an area probably if you're just square it off about eleven hundred square miles of area where this stuff is seen frequently. So he gets back to me and he said, Okay, this area is actually used by the US Air Force from Lived Air Force Base. It's also used by the US Marine Corps from Yuma. He said there are six military facilities within this area, and he said some of those facilities are actually underground. So I was stunned that he was

actually telling you this. He's one of the complex complexes is actually a munitions facility, which I'm pretty sure I know which one that is, and that one is publicly known. He said that the land mass which I refer to is used by various US Army and Air Force units. Some of the units are from Fort Carson in Colorado. You're in Colorado there. Some of them are Army National Guard from Nevada, Utah, and of course Arizona. And then he got really specifically said there's also some instruments that

are hidden here. One of them is called a TACAN, which is a tactical air navigation antenna that's been in this area for quite some time, and they also installed. Remember when you're up on the mountain with us looking at these these craft coming off near Jerome, Well behind that mountain town of Jerome is a device called a d SARS, a Defense Series Advanced Radio system, and that was installed in the forest up on the mountain behind Jerome.

And it's an incredible when you when you read about what these things do, it's an incredible system and it allows these multi frequency radio transmissions by military units. And end of course, course the government contracted engineers that are

out here with this test craft. He also told me that from two thousand to twenty twenty one, there have been thirty six UFO sidings in this area, and of course there's been more than that, but what he's referring to is thirty six that have been actually officially reported to the authorities. He said most of those are US military advanced aircraft testing. He said there have been at least six of those that were actually unidentified were actually

likely to be NHI non human intelligent pilot craft. He said that the area of roughly seventy five square miles to one hundred miles within the area I refer to is called the National Defense Zone or NDZ, and they can close it when they're actually operating some of these test flights, or they would call it activated. Of course, now this man, again, I didn't expect that he was

going to get back to me. He's very well known as a career Air Force intelligence man, and I was very grateful, you know, if he's listening again, I'm very grateful for him to actually help us out. So again there's one whistleblower, if you will, who simply communicate with me from an email that I said and giving a pretty bold admission that there is underground facilities in this area. But the most I think the most telling of them are again the private engineering firm, so the bio firms,

the eraononics firms, they're all defense contracted companies. So the next question, Connie, for a lot of people is probably why they're why it's in Sedona or around Sodona in a touristed area.

Speaker 2

Well, before you answer that, let's go back to what you just talked about the guy had said to you that he believes he told you, I think a percentage even of what was not human, right he said that. Now was he saying that as a matter of fact, casually, no big deal. Just oh and by the way, some are non human.

Speaker 3

It was just it was actually a very matter of fact statement. And I think in one of the things is to to be the hardest for people to believe. In about two weeks time, it's said that there's going to be some massive disclosure. And I can't confirm for certain short that's to happen, but a lot of really, really big sources are saying in about two weeks there's

going to be a very very large disclosure event. Uh. And it may include some of which uh we're talking about now, which is some of these private firms that are using reverse engineered alien craft now in the name of our national defense in.

Speaker 2

The next two weeks.

Speaker 3

Again in the next two weeks, in the next two weeks. That's that's the big word right now from a lot of insiders is just wait, in two weeks time, there's gonna be mind blowing disclosure. Now. I'm one of those people out believe it when I see it because again.

Speaker 2

At the we've been hearing this all our life, right, We've been hearing this a long time, Right, We've.

Speaker 3

Been hearing that a long time. And in most cases when they do have these hearings, you hear people talk for four hour six hours. Some of it's behind closed doors, some of it's actually televised, and it's the same talking heads giving the same stuff. It's not really deep. It's not what we want to hear, and people are tired of that. People want the truth. Most people know deep down that there's a lot more involved in all this,

and our government's lying. They're lying about the firms that are underground in certain areas, not just in Arizona, but in others. They lie about Area fifty one for so many years, and it wasn't until the federal government I think it was in twenty thirteen actually had the gumps and to come out admit, yes, Area fifty one does exist, and yes we do test advanced tech craft there. And they didn't exactly thinking that when once they finally admitted, people would let it alone.

Speaker 1

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