Phoenix Lights - Best of Coast to Coast AM - 2/25/23

deeply and we compare notes along the way. We've noticed they all have lights, they all have telepathy, maybe name something differently. It's kind of like with the aliens, it's telepathy, with the Bigfoot, it's mind speak. And then when you get into the haunting world of ghost world, the psychic world,

it's you know, Aunt Betsy or my guide or something. Right, So those things the board, and then you keep going deeper and deeper into each one, and there's always some sort of lights and orbs and things like that where people don't even realize, oh that is true. Wait a minute, Oh I did see that when I was even ghost honey, and I did see that one. So um hey, Blue Rock talk Connie Willis dot com check it out and be a part of that too, and we'll get doctor

Lynn over there too. I always say, doctor Lynn, I'm sorry, but it's doctor Lynn. I think it's dooming. And then Keytai right. I want to make sure I get it all the way right. That's why I became doctor Lynn. I was doing health reporting for DC. It's just doctor tell her, doctor Lynne. She's good like a can of tie.

And I really appreciate Connie that you're sharing our study which is really specific for the Phoenix lights and the Phoenix lights, and we can talk about that more characteristics of the orbs and the craft and there were multiple craft. We can get into that. Most people don't know that, but I specifically which because it's twenty six years, it's been so long and it's so hard to find. Many of the people have either moved or deceased that actually

were there on March thirteenth, nineteen ninety seven. So if there's anyone out there that either saw the Phoenix flights at that time around the late nineties in the Southwest area Southwest States, or know somebody, please please direct them to the survey. We really, really appreciate that, and of course everyone is welcome who had similar sightings and they're

happening worldwide. That's what's so exciting. And the other thing that's really exciting, Connie and poignant is that we learned from the survey that people are so eager and appreciate

taking it. I don't know if you've found that with your survey, but people really appreciate that they can participate and share their experience with someone who's open to hearing it, and that in itself makes the study an important step in getting this topic out in the open and addressing it and accepting it and finding out after studying it, what's really going on, and also hopefully who's driving these things so we can move forward on our own. That's

that's right. And just to be clear, we didn't do scientific survey. We just go out on our own. We are there in the field, boots on the ground, and we are talking about it, seeing it, experience in it, and the different people doing it in the different areas. You know, we're just putting it all together and you know, doing it that way, it's not the scientific survey, so

I want to make that clear. But no, we're just out there doing it and being a part of it, and as it happens live, we're just like, oh my gosh, So it's really exciting that way, it's important. Yeah, yeah, it is to let people share. I mean, that's one of the main reasons I came forward, not only as a scientist and trying to be as scientific as I can with the data, but as a physician and as an experiencer. I know how that feels to let people know they're not alone in this and they're not crazy.

Even know most anomalies can be explained, only a small percentage cannot. But just because don't have the technology yet to defendively be define what these things are, it doesn't mean they're not real. I always that's right, looking when the AM dial for an FM frequency, So yeah, that's a good way to put it on the AM dial looking for the FM frequency or vice versa. That's exactly. That's a great way to say it. And you're right, the technology isn't there for us to measure. Where we

can't measure what it is that these things are. It's different. They're just different. They're not us. They go against all the laws that we've ever been taught and even in our mind, they are not supposed to exist. And when you see things you're like, that does not compute. And you got to even sometimes remind yourself or convince yourself. I did just see that. You know, I'm not enough, and I did just see that. Because that's the way

it is now. I like to focus on the experience, the feeling and the thought and what it did and how I felt and what happened. And I love when people deal with the evidence like you and get all the facts, because then I don't have to. That's what you all do. That's good for you. Lot of work, but so one a lot of facts that people don't know that that's right, And that's what I want to hear from you. What are the things that people don't

know and what is it that they've got wrong? Well, first of all, which which really it'll be interesting how history's greatest mysteries, you know, take their take on the Phoenix Lights case, because there is so much miss and disinformation out there the media, because there were thousands of people for anybody that doesn't know out there on March thirteenth, nineteen ninety seven. While the help out come, it was

very clear in the northwest sky. There were thousands of people outside looking up to get a glimpse of it when they also caught a glimpse of mile and according to Peter Davenport from the National UFO Reporting Center, from all the data that he's accumulated for the last twenty

six years, one of these objects was eight miles wide. Oh, now we're talking about either these orbs that people would describe and saying that the air traffic controllers described to me as six points of light totally equidistant from each other, covering an equidist information over a mile wide. It seemed to be attached to something, but they couldn't quite see what these orbs were attached to or had a force

field holding them in rock solid formation. And actually two months before the mass sighting when I called the next morning and I was taking pictures of this. If you go on the Phoenix Lights Network website photo page, and a unique collection of thirty five millimeter no one else has them, and they've been analyzed by military or university optical experts. No one can explain what they are. But they said that this line actually turned against the wind.

These lights were like attached to something or had a force field in between and rock solid formation turned against the wind as a unit and then elevated slowly and moved slowly behind South Mountain. And when I asked him, well, what was it? Not only did it not show up on radar, Okay, you mentioned that earlier, but they ruled out everything that could have possibly be. And again the same thing happened on March thirteenth, over class be restricted airspace.

As I mentioned, Kurt Russell was coming into the airport while I was shooting it, and on videotape he was actually reporting it. And what came to be was technology that was so far advanced we haven't seen anything that comes close. And now we're swelling about the hardware here. Not only one to eight miles wide, these orbs that seemed to be attached to something. Some people saw these orbs detached from the main object, go add into the

environment and then redock with it. And as you look at the pictures that I took on thirty five millimeter from ninety five nineteen ninety five, the same exact phenomena is in the same exact location. Is I photographed two months before the mass sighting and during the mass sighting when we were focused on the close orbs in a pyramid formation right outside our bedroom window. That's the whole

story in itself. But they were there two years before, the same exact thing, in the same exact location, So they've been around a long time in native cultures in Arizona and worldwide. Indigenous cultures here believe that these orbs are either spirit world or ancestors coming to give them guidance and knowledge and inspiration. And I have to admit first, for whatever reason, I would have never chosen to do this.

I have been inspired to not only collect the data but disseminated in as credible a way as I can, and that's how the Astray has got its name. The native culture is right there are the HeLa shared with me that the Spaniards of the day that saw these phenomena called the mountains that they were showing up near the austraya mountain range, and believe that there's a portal or gateway there in that area where South Mountain the

Austray is intersect. And if you look on my website photopage, you'll see these phenoma keep popping up in that area, which is quite riveting. In and of itself. But talking about the technology of March thirteenth, the other thing that's amazing is after a twelve years study of hundreds of reports, two or more people had to see the same craft. People were seeing actual craft at rooftop level thirty miles

an hour, just gliding right over their heads. Some saw it takeoff at blink speed, some saw it split in two. If you go to the gap page gap Gspatial Animation project on the Phoenix Lights Network website, you'll see beautiful illustrations by Larry Lowe and also animation. One of the other things, yeah, okay, I see it, okay, Governor by Simington saw Um. And one of them was a was a boomerang craft, the Covert Prescott. I mean, it's just amazing now, whether it was one craft that could morph,

there were ten different craft. Whether it was one craft that could morph, because we've all seen that. You know a lot of people seen that where it's like one shave and then it goes into something else and you're like, what just happened? And then it jerks to the left or the right or just stays there whatever. It's just crazy, doesn't make any sense. In fact, as in his remote viewing, and we can get into that if you'd like. Yeah, he actually mentioned that, I mean he had no iday.

This was done in twenty fourteen, where he had no idea what he was remote viewing. And that's that's a whole other story. But getting back to the to the to the craft, whether it was one craft that could morph into looking different, or the perspective from where the person was standing or a parade, and that's what most people don't know. The mass sighting, not only was there multiple things happening at the same time in different locations, but it wasn't just one or two events as you

would hear in the media. Suhere. They just grabbed onto the eight to ten period PM because most people were outside looking up at the sky at the help up commet and that's when they saw something unusual and made their calls to Air Force base or the news or whatever. But in actuality, the main the sighting began at three eight three pm in the afternoon daylight sighting in Arizona

five o'clock hour. The same phenomena were seen in New Mexico by Native American seven o'clock hour and beyond in California, at ten o'clock hour, there were two commercial airline pilots that called into radar because they were seeing one of these massive over mile wide craft covering Las Vegas at the whole story in itself at which I get into

in the book, and then it continued. At three am the next morning, there was a call from an alleged crewman from Luke Air Force Base to the National the UFO Reporting Center, Peter Davenport, a director there, that air of craft was sent off from Luke Air Force Base to intercept one of these over mile wide craft hovering right over central Phoenix at Seventh Avenue in Indian School, and there were civilians that saw this happening and as they approached, the lights dimmed and then the entire craft

blinked out and disappeared, and supposedly is crewman helped one of the pilots out of his aircraft because he was so shaken up by it, and Luke Air Force Base went on lockdown. We have very professional recording from that interview in the documentaries that people can hear it straight out. And the sightings continued very credible. People pilots and military

saw the East phenomena up into five thirty. The last report that I'm aware of, I was told personally by the head of crew from boeen crewmen coming into Sky Harbor International Airport and one of these massive, over a mile wide craft was hovering over their tarmac. So we're talking about not only over a dozen hours, which most people have no idea about, but also over four states, at least four states. We also have reports from Texas and Utah, and that's why, you know, we'd love to

hear from those people if anybody saw anything similar. And these are the root. This is only from the reports. I mean, there's there's other people that saught that never even reported it and other areas. Yes, absolutely, and we wish they would. They would, you know, join us in this sea questionnaire, which is totally anonymous by the way, totally confidential once you get into it, because we want

people to be honest. We don't know your name, we don't know your IP address, nothing, and the feedback that we're getting and we're still working on it, so uh and there's a lot more data and I'm not even divulging yet that we will when we're when we completed talent and okay, we're gonna wait man going to have something. Uh, you know, it's wonderful what you're doing. And I know the Free Study as well by Ray Hernandez. If you've heard of that, that that encompasses a whole lot more.

We're trying to hone in on the Phoenix Flits because it was so poignant and powerful thing. You know, that's your thing. Yeah, but you were born for this whatever. I'm trying to make the best you are. You're doing great. You have not stopped. It's like it just happens still. And I love that about you. I love that you keep doing that. You know, stop for a second and think about it. Like we had Thomas reid on earlier.

He was talking about the Berkshire UFO incident and it was the holiday weekend and everybody was out and they saw it. You're talking, they're looking for the comment and uh, they're out there, so they saw it. You know. I always tell people quit looking down on your phones. Look up, Look up, Look up in the day at night, just look up. I keep looking up. But that is a double entond for your audience knows now not only is looking up in the sky, but also the I called

you know, the unexplained phenomena. That's that are all connected us. They are as well, and there's other things if we have time or we can get into it the next section. Oh go, Do you think I'll cut you off when I have too? Oh? Yeah, yeah, we got like a minute and a half. Okay, Well. The biggest thing that was amazing after the mass sighting was that there was no investigation that we knew of. There was no explanation.

It was uncanny. And even in May when a councilwoman she was also a vice mayor of Phoenix, Francis Barwood, Uh, just innocently, she didn't see it, but so many of her stituents had called in to ask her. She got over a thousand phone calls. Why isn't there an investigation? She mentioned it in a councilwoman meeting, and she was plastered by the media. I mean the ridicule and the snickering and the discrediting that was said in the nineties and beyond. I was very happy to stand on as

I stayed anonymous for seven years. The only people that knew what I had, or a handful of investigators that were the University of Arizona and books sensitive photography and Navy optical physicist doctor Bruce mcabee and others that were kind enough to keep my name out of it. I just wanted to know what we're dealing with, you know, was it a hoax, was it military or whatever? And to date it can not be explained or denied. And I do hope people will take a pick of peek

at the photos on the photo page. But as the story continued, the story itself and I'm just giving you the biggest highlights here that people don't know about is it. On June eighteenth, a USA Today article came out and for the first time it was front page news. It went viral overnight and we didn't have social media at the time, which was really interesting. By the next morning,

it was, I mean, it was unbelievable. It was on every national morning show, Peter Jennings, Dan Rather and international media. We were deluged by media speaking with the witnesses and narrow stories were so detailed and so heartfelt that they too were like a guest, why isn't there an investigation? Why isn't there an explanation? Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at one am Eastern and go to Coast to coast am dot com for more