Near Death Experiences - Best of Coast to Coast AM - 2/1/23

is called The Wisdom of Jacob's Ladder. Jacob, Welcome back, George. Great to be on your program again. Thank you so much for having me back. My pleasure. We had a great response when you were on the year plus to go, and I'm glad you're back. How have things been, Yeah, you know, things one day at a time, you know, that's the way I take it. But everything's going great, you know as well. By you tell us about the Wisdom of Jacob's Ladder. It's a great tie. Well, thank

you well. The title became, you know, came obviously with my name of Jacob. But I had my near death experience and a ladder and a slide, and so kind of like I believe your name speaks to your potential. So you think of Jacob, Biblical Jacob, you know, when he ran away from his brother Esau and the Bible, and he had a dream of angels going up and down the ladder, and it's just very symbolic of my

near death experience. But really, you know, this book teaches a lot of the lessons that I learned from my near death experience, but it also grounds it. You know, it's in my work as a licensed clinical social worker, mental health practitioner, you know, and so we you know, in this book, I really roll up my sleeves and go to areas that I found that a lot of people are, you know, looking for seeking answers in their lives and not afraid to go into those dark areas

to find the light. Jacob, how old were you when you have this new experience? I was. I was chronologically just three years old. Oh my god, just a little guy, September of nineteen ninety three. And it's it's remarkable because you know, I think when you're into this stuff, we always say where an infinite spiritual being? Having these human experiences, but sometimes we get stuck in identity of our chronological

ages or you know, who we are. And I think in a way, there's there's a you beyond the you, if that makes sense, and there's an eternal soul experiencing yourself in this you know, time as a personality. But yeah, it was just quite fascinating. How did you pull on of it? Every day? I'm I'm still I'm still learning each each and every day. You know, I think if you ask new death experience researchers, how long does it take the process your experience, they'll tell you two to

three decades. But I think it's a lifetime where you could be able to process it. So it doesn't mean that it changed what exactly happened, but you're able to look at it, you know, through a different set of lens and more importantly, find more meaning. And you know, Life After Breath was my first book which I view as my karma, you know, that was my story of my new death experience. But the Wisdom of Jacob's Ladder is more of my dharma, which is the meaning and

the purpose behind what happened to me. And so it's kind of congruent with my work as a therapist as my clients, where what happened to you is not your fault necessarily, but what you come out of it becomes the work at hand. And so that's been my work ever since, the experience, to make sense of it, to find meaning from it, and to ground it in this experience. And I hope I could do justice by readers who

pick up my book. The biblical version of Jacob's ladder, of course, had to do with a ladder to heaven, so that and do you well, I was on a ladder into a slide, so I didn't exactly see a ladder to a heaven, but I was in a playground and I had a ladder into a slide. But similar to Jacob, it came with a lot of distress. You know, he was fleeing his brother Esa for his life, and he,

you know, was you know, fearing death. And that happened to me in a sense when I had my near death experience and I was suffocated as a result of Protussis at Whipping Cough, you know, and I thought this was it, you know, and it was end was suffering, you know, and then I surrendered and let go of this pain, and I was able to remember that all things come back to home, and you know, pain is temporary, but the love on the other side, in our connection

to it, is eternal. But I was able to see a lot of angels as well, spirit guides, much like Jacob from the Bible. So that's the similarities, I guess. So there is a lot in a name. I don't think it's frivol Iss a random and at three years old, Jacob, you actually remember this absolutely. People ask me how to remember, and in my mind, I say, how could you forget? You know, Georgia as a therapist. The reason why I think I'm able to remember this is the gift of trauma.

And if you're familiar with trauma, you know that could be a life altering event, you know, where either you could disassociate from it or just kind of push it away, or it could be so hardwired in your memory that you can't forget it. And something like a near death experience, which was incredibly traumatic, was gave reason and you know, an explanation for why I remember it. I often ask people, and I was in sixth grade at the time, but I'll say, you know, let's say September eleventh, what were

you doing? And people will mostly remember, but then I'll say what are you doing nine to sixteen, nine seventeen, They they'll have no clue. So when something so pressing in life altering occurs to us, you know, I do believe we're able to recall. But it's a segue to some of the other conversation that will have if you

know past life memories and how people are. Only for myself, I'm able to remember something from thirty years ago as a young infant, but people remember my clients are able to remember things from hundreds and thousands of years ago. So there's a subconscious memory in life and the ideas to make that conscious, to make that aware. Do you remember that, Jacob, them sending you back or did you do that on your own? It's a good question, George.

You know, with near death experiences, there's two routes. Either you're told okay, you're meant to go back, or you're given you know, autonomy, You're given a choice, and obviously you didn't choose to stay otherwise they're going to be having this conversation, or maybe I'll be coming through a medium during coast to coast exactly. But I choose to stay. And the reason is is I you know, I was posed that question, and I, out of curiosity, said, well, you know, if I do stay, what will come in

this life? And I was given a life review of not only this lifetime, which is familiar with life reviews. You're able to see images of your lifetime through your lens, but also the other people's lens. But I was also able to see life reels through a couple of previous lifetimes, you know, which I talk about in Life After Breath.

But I saw that I would be helping a lot of people and speaking about this, and I said, the other side is always there, but that window to bring the hereafter into this here now is even more beautiful than heaven itself. And I couldn't deny that opportunity. Jacob, what does the afterlife mean to you at this point? The afterlife, I would say, is not something far away. It's in the doorways of our inner being. It's the core of who we are. It's it's the innermost part

of us that's connected to it. And so I think with a lot of people, they'll in our world, we're used to traveling millions of miles away and grinding it out to get to something good or to find something. But you know, the afterlife to me is in the backyard of your inner being and you're you're always connected to it. But it connects you your loved ones on the other side, your guides, and you know, connects you

to hire awareness. And so I and my near death experience, I experienced the brain as as a filter between the two worlds, you know. And I say that because my brain once it was deprived of oxygen due to suffocation shut down, and that's when I had this connection with the afterlife. And so I think the brain is a great ally between the afterlife in this life, and when you're able to really open up your brain, you could

have a clear filter between the two worlds. But to me, it's a high high and awareness in a sense the afterlife that you could connect to. Do you think everybody should have some experience with the afterlife? Somehow? I think we all do. And you know, I think we've all been born, we've all crossed over. It's all in us. It begs the question though, as to why maybe five to ten percent of the population have new death experiences.

Why not everyone yeah, I still don't understand. But I think particularly young children have a lot more clarity of the other side because they're not as conditioned or programmed in this human experience. But certainly it could help. Now, what I'll say is if we were to be there, we would so I think we're meant to be here as human beings. But it doesn't hurt to try to open ourselves to connect to it because it could be

a great GPS and guiding force in our life. But I think a lot of people are aren't used to that.

They're used to other people telling them truths or needing to look outside themselves for it to you know, religious you know organization, you know religious religious programming that we've been raised in, and so you know, connecting to this is a very empowering move where instead of looking and facing outside yourself, you turn within and you could connect to droplets of the afterlife and you know, which I think is just guiding forces within your life, you know,

to propel you to greater heights. Does it make everybody who has been in the afterlife with a near death experience when they come back, even though you were three? But does it make you a better person? That would be the hope, right. You'd have to ask my family that, because the Grahamdas would say, if you think you're good, you just have to ask your family and they'll tell you the full story. But I try to walk to talk.

What I'll say is, you know, everything that I do in my life, you know, is driven by that new death experience. And while I say that is I was lifeless. I had nothing going on when I was suffocated, and then in moments later, I was given back this, this breath of eternity, hence the title life after breath, And so my duty and job in this lifetime is really

to give back all that I was given. And I think there's two different types of people, really, and sometimes we've askelated between the two, that there are givers and takers, And at least for me, the closest realization of God or higher consciousness would be to give in to you know, bring forward, you know, beauty to others in the world around you. Since you've been doing this, you're becoming a

hypnotist therapist as well. Do you do past lives? Yeah, you know, It's it's funny because a lot of people who come to me think that Past life regression is a past life reading, which you know, different psychics or mediums could do. But I you know, past life regression is a form of hypnotherapy and you guide clients, you know too, you know, different incarnations through hypnosis, you know,

in working with the subconscious mind. So it's really the client that is able to access their own lifetimes, previous lifetimes. I'm just I'm just a guide. But I was very driven to get into past life aggression for several reasons. But you know, one of them was in a way again to give back, you know, some of what I saw and its experience, and to allow people to do

these aggressions. And they do past life aggressions successfully. You could find that same exhalation that we've lived many lives, we've died, many deaths, and we you know, continue on. So that's um, you know, something that many people have and it helps with grief, you know, and in their

people's ability that see themselves more than just a body. Absolutely, give us a little synopsis of the Wisdom of Jacob's Ladder Jacob as the Wisdom of Jacob's Ladder is very deep book, you know, filled with tools for people to access this consciousness that I experienced in my near death experience that they can incorporate in their everyday lives. So it touches on areas of mental health, It touches on areas of past lives. It even touches areas with grief.

So I use belief you know, within the afterlife as a tool for grief, but also address it on a level as a psychotherapist too, So it addresses both the human part and the spirit part. It doesn't bypass or ignore one or the other, but it's it's a way of bringing the hereafter for the here now, so that we don't have to wait until we die to get to heaven, but rather we can incorporate some of this stuff within our energyps of our everyday lives to live a more enriched life and to have a deeper gear

that we live by. How many people have a near death experience and don't want to come back, you know, it's it's hard. It's it's hard to know because I think, like I said, you know, you're either posed two questions, But it would be interesting to say people who have had neared its experiences and decided to come back. And I think obviously you decided to not come back, and obviously you would need, you know, an evidential medium to

maybe pick on pick up on that loved one. But I would say it's it's probably more so that you're told that it's not your time than you're given autonomy, if you ask me, from what I've researched. But I have no data to back that up. But you know, it's interesting as to why some people are told, you know, you don't need to come back. You're given a choice in some people you know are given are you know, are told they need to come back. I don't know why. You know. I could ask some clues, but I don't

know factually why yours three years old. Did they send you back or did you come back on your own? No, I decided to come back on my own at three years old. Talk about decisions, right really, But but you know, life altering, yeah, I don't. I mean, I never saw myself as my chronological age, you know, especially in that nartive experience, people said, oh my god, you were so young. I believe two things could be true at the same time.

Or yes, technically it was two years old, but also I experienced this through the depths of my inner being, which was an eternal, timeless soul, and so that's kind of like vacillated between the two. But ultimately once I really crossed overs, when I really connected to myself beyond my personality as three year old you know, Jake and stuff like that. You know, So it's it's an interesting phenomenon.

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