Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. Man, Welcome back to Coast to Coast, George Nori with you. Tim Schwartz back with us, Indiana native and Emmy Award winning television producer, videographer, author of a number of popular books, including Alien Artifacts, Tim Schwartz's Big Book of Extraterrestrial Encounters, The Last Journals of Nicola Tesla, and so many more.
Tim is also the co host with Gene Steinberg on the radio show The Pedecast and his latest book that has just come out is called Mimics The Others among Us that he wrote with Sean's Castile. Tim, welcome back, my friend. Have you been why? Thank you George. I've been great and as always, it's a real pleasure talking with you again. I'm looking forward to this one. This one is a strange story, isn't it. It really is
a strange story. But I tell you it's amazing once you get into this subject and start looking into it, how much our history has really been intertwined with whatever these things are. How did the subject matter come to
your attention? Well, it first came to me years and years ago, and George you're probably too young to remember this, but you know, there was a time when you could go to the drug store and actually by quality paperback books on paranormal subjects, and they're usually about, you know, fifty seventy five cents each, just perfectly affordable for you know,
a kid interested in the stuff. Well, I ran into this book called Our Haunted Planet by John Keel And in this book he had just a little section and it really was more of a stepping off point talking about other subjects, but he subtitled this section called Mimics of Man, and in it he said that what basics fact should be obvious from the foregoing, these entities and things are not necessarily from other planet. They're closely tied
to the human race. And he said that living among us undetected maybe creatures not necessarily aliens with all the outward appearances of human beings, and he called the mimics of man, and the mimic would of necessary, of necessity be a lone wolf, likely living in large, bustling cities where it's eccentric and the odd may flourish unhindered. And that just fascinated me, you know, the idea that there could be things not human looking like human, but managing
to live among us for whatever reasons. What are they lacking to him to not be human? Well that really all the ends on just exactly what we're dealing with, and that's what the subject of this of this book is because the the mimics have gone by all kinds of different names throughout history and and they've been with us almost probably almost from the very very beginning. I mean, we've called them things like gods, angels, demons, uh, fairies,
extraterrestrial you know, you're more modern idea for them. So you know, it just hit. It really just all depends on what what these things are, and that's what we hope to try to uncover with this book. Are they
intentionally disguising themselves? I yeah, definitely. Um, if if we are dealing with say like just you know, just just let's just frmally put this in the material world with maybe a creature that is um either prey or predator to people, you know, because humans at this point, you know, we've gotten to the point where there's no other predators to us on the planet. Well what if there is? What if there was a species that actually evolved right
alongside us to prey on us. And you know, and we don't mean religious prayer either, doing exactly exactly you know, I mean, you know, in the natural world, you know, you've got to say, like insects who actually will look just like their prey so they can sit around and wait for an I'm suspecting victim to go buy. Now, I'm not saying, you know that these things are you know, necessarily something that preys on us. They may look like
us to protect themselves. Interesting, now you mentioned John Keel was one who wrote about them. Any others in history that have kind of discussed this, well, you know it's like I said, you know, you go and you look at, say like a fairy lore. I think is really a good example of these things that have interacted with society. Now when I say fairies, people just automatically go to, you know, like the Tingerbell type of creatures, you know, something you know, a little and short and glowing with
wings flying around. But through most of history, when it comes to people dealing with these types of things, and like I said, they've called them says and lepre cons and the good people. The good people is really an excellent name to call them, because they have kind of lived on the outskirts of our society and interact with us when they want to, not when we want to. And they've interacted with us in all kinds of different ways, from actually either buying or stealing food from us to
actually having romantic relationships with people. Geez. Yeah, well, I mean that's that's a telling point too, because they could be related to us in some way. Yeah, you know, because most of the time, you know, interspecies romance is just an't work. Do they live among us or are they down in some cavern or something like that, Well,
maybe a little both. You know, there's there's the idea that they could be a race of say like a cousin species of humans of hominence and albeit a more gentle species, and at some time in our ancient past that they decided that they're going to get the heck away from us, you know, we're too violent, and they at first they lived on the outskirts of society, in their cities and villages or what have you. You know, we're out you know, in the desert or in the mountains.
But as people became more you know, the world became more populous with with Homo sapiens. This species said, you know, you know, we got to get out of here and maybe moved underground or under the ocean. They or some could actually have moved in, you know, with us and live amongst us. I mean, there are a lot of stories that we've collected in this book of people having sightings of things that appear to be human but don't act like humans. Do these mimics know what they are? Oh? Yes, yes,
I think they definitely do. Whether again, whether or not we're dealing with if you know, material, physical beings, uh, paranormal, extraterrestrial, what have you. These things definitely know that they are different, and they use that difference to their advantage. You know. The I think one of the things that has allowed them to exist all this time is their ability to subterfuge. You know, they they are very good at disguising themselves. They're very good at staying hidden until they want to
be seen. Well with Tim Schwartz, co author of the latest book, Mimics the Others among Us, these beings, do they lack a soul? Oh? Wow, that's uh, that's really the million dollar question. Do we have a soul? We do right, right? Um, I think that they probably do. Uh you know, I I think that whatever they are again, whether they're physical or you know, interdimensional or what had you, they probably have a soul just like us. Did they come to us in craft or were they born on
this planet? Well, that's one of the things that in this book that we really hoped to do, is to detangle the others from the whole u UFO phenomena. In modern times, the two have really become intertwined with with stories of human looking extraterrestrials or the men in Black even things like that. So I think that and you know, George, uh, your guests really is as good as mine. I mean,
there could be a factor that are strictly extraterrestrial. I'm not going to throw that idea out, but I think that probably at least the major aspect of the phenomena of the Mimics is that this is something that has been on our planets probably as long as we have. And this, of course book is not a nonfictional novel. I mean a fictional novel. This is a nonfictional book,
isn't it. This is correct, Yes, this is this is nonfiction and we've myself Sean Castile, And as you said in the opening, I mean, you know, we've got some really great writers like Scott Corrallis and Nigel Watson, you know, people like that who hitters. Yea, Yeah, contributed to this book with these these fascinating stories, again stretching back across time really long before say like the modern UFO era. But I think that the modern era has really helped
bring this idea to the forefront. You have highlighted some examples of individuals who have had encounters with these beings, one being the late remote viewer Ingo Swan. Ingo Swan, who who are very well known for working with the government intelligence services with his remote viewing abilities. He was one time task to actually remote view the dark side of the Moon and given very specific latitude and longitudes
lunar latitudes and longitudes. And when he actually started viewing this location, he said that he saw human looking beings on the surface of the moon without what didn't appeared to like if they had any kind of protection on them. And the frightening thing to him was that they became
aware that he was looking at them. So after this initial encounter, when Ingo was in Los Angeles, with a friend and in a supermarket he came across this, as he described her, an extremely beautiful woman wearing you know, shorts and a tank top and just just absolutely stunning. And he said that as he got closer, she was
looking at the avocados, very interested in the avocados. When he got closer, he was struck with a feeling of terror, overwhelmed his senses, and he got the impression first of all, that this woman was not human, that she looked human, looked like a very beautiful human, but she wasn't and that if she became aware that he knew that what she was, his life would probably be in danger. Interesting are they working among us? I mean, do they have jobs?
Do they have social Security cards? You know? That was one of the things that the early contacted movement, starting in the nineteen fifties, with people like George Damski and Howard Menger, talked quite a bit about that these beings space brothers as they called them, looked so human that they actually managed to infiltrate our society, living amongst us,
working with us for whatever reasons. Now, of course, the contactees, you know, the space brothers, were telling them that you know they were there to help mankind that we were going to destroy ourselves with atomic weapons, and that they actually were using their influence because they looked so much like us within business and politics, to help steer us away towards a more peaceful society. And I think that various governments really took this to heart, that we were
being infiltrated. And of course this idea in nineteen fifties, I mean it fit right in with the cold or mentality that was going on at the time, you know, I mean not only were government's afraid that, say, the
Communist you know, we're you know, hiding everywhere. Yeah, yeah, we were so paranoid about it too, right, So I mean, you know, think about you worried about the Soviet Union infiltrating this What about a superior race of extraterrestrials that that that could be living amongst us, That that was a big worry. What did you find in your research with the book, Tim that was so profound it still
has you shaking your head? Well, I think the most profound thing about all of this book is just really how um pervasive this whole phenomena is that um that that we have sharing the planet with us another intelligence,
all right, that we're not alone. Not only are we not alone probably in the universe, but that we share this planet with another, possibly superior intelligence that's been with us this entire time, that has been possibly manipulating society through a religion, culture, other types of things, and that our history is probably just as much part of their history as well. Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at one am Eastern, and go to Coast to Coast am dot com for more