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Ice Ages - Best of Coast to Coast AM - 3/2/23

Mar 03, 202319 min
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George Noory and analyst Ralph Ellis explore his observations on climate change and ice ages, whether science has misrepresented the causes of global warming, and if parts of the Earth will become uninhabitable if another major ice age strikes the planet.

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Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeart Radio, and welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you. Ralph ellis back with us. Trained in mineral surveying, but became a computer analyst. He then retrained himself as a flying instructor and airline captain. Ralph has been exploring biblical and natural history for more than forty years, has written at least fourteen books on many of these subjects. He has also written and influenced peer reviewed paper on

climate change. Ralph, welcome to the show. Good to have you with us, Good to be with you, George. Yeah, and it's good morning over him. Absolutely. I gotta tell you my twenty one year old granddaughter has her commercial pilot's license and has been offered a job by United when she gets her thousand hours, of which he's got about four hundred. Now, isn't that something twenty one years old? Yeah? Yeah, Well you've got to start at some age, but that will be great if you can get into the majors.

I was in the smaller airlines, you might say, and it was less stable. Did you have fun? Ah? Yeah, we had fun. Although aviation has changed a great deal in the forty years that I was associated with it, so it's a very different animal. Now I'm convince Ralph that the solar system through the Sun is heating up. What do you think of that? The TSI they call it, the total Solar index has not changed. So the total amount of energy from the Sun never changes within plus

or minus half a percent. The only thing that really changes, which is still being investigated, but not by many people, only by friends Mark, I think is the name of the guy, is the magnetic flux from the Sun. Now that does change quite a bit, and there are some people investigating to see whether the magnetic flux will actually change. Whether that's like on the Earth, what's going on with

the other star about ice ages, meltings and things like that. Well, yes, if you want to talk about modern climate, yeah, there is no evidence that CO two is causing that, and that's something they don't talk about very much. And we have an idea that CO two is not necessarily the controlling agent a because of my peer review paper that I wrote, Modulation of Ice ages by dust An Albedo.

Now that's concerned with ice ages in the past. But you know what, happens in the past might reflect on the future on you current warming, and we sort of know that CO two is not involved because the troposphere

is not warming now. When they started this CO two greenhouse warming business, they predicted that the tropical troposphere that's from you know, five hundred foot up to thirty thousand foot in the atmosphere, that would warm, because that is the very basis of the greenhouse warming effect, is a warmer troposphere. Now that has never really happened to the extent that they said it would, and therefore we can be fairly sure that it's not CO two that's causing

the warming. How many trackable ice ages have we had ralph on this planet. We've had about eight of the major ones, so from eight hundred thousand years ago is when these big ice ages started, and we've had eight. So they last for about one hundred thousand years, so we get about ninety thousand years of cooling and then ten thousand years of warming, which is known as an interglacial. And we are in an interglacial now, it's known as the Holocene, and it's been going on for about about

fifteen thousand years or so. Why are they so cyclical. Ralph, Well, that's a very good question that this is why I got involved in this actually is because nobody has explained why these ice ages actually occur. We know it's something to do with orbital cycles, because these orbital cycles can change the amount of sunlight, the strength of the sunlight hitting the northern and southern latitudes high latitudes, so you know, up in Canada sort of thing, and by a significant amount,

you know, twenty five thirty percent. You know, it's quite a large increase in strength of the sun during one of these peaks in the cycle. It's a twenty two thousand year cycle. So we've known it's something to do with that for quite some time. But there is a problem which was never explained until my peer review paper on this, in that many of these peaks in this strength of sunlight orbital cycles do not cause any warming.

Now that's odd because you have a cycle and the only acts once in every four or five times do you actually get an interclacial And that's very difficult to explain, and it was never explained previously when they were trying to use CO two as the feedback agent that was actually controlling and assisting in interclacials. So and my idea, of course, has nothing to do with COO two. It has to do with dust on ice sheets, and we

have an ice age. When we have an ice age, Ralph, what's the definition of that, I mean, what happens during an ice age? Well, the polar regions will cool by up to fourteen degrees centigrade, so what's that is about twenty eight fahrenheit or something, and both poles will cool. The tropics don't. The tropics will only go in fahrenheit terms. They will reduce by about four or five degrees in fahrenheit. But the poles really cooled down over a long, long

period of time, ninety thousand years. They're cooling, and you get these great ice sheets which come down almost to sort of New York Ish, that sort of far south, and so it's a very very different climate. And then suddenly all of that ice disappears. Within five thousand years, all of that ice will melt. So it's an incredibly fast, very intensive process. So we have to be looking for a feedback agent that is very very powerful. And that's

what CO two never explained. It's just simply not powerful enough to actually do that. Now, have we had ice ages where there were humans around or not. Yeah, humans are around, that's for sure. We've been around for a million years or so, that is what's currently thought. Obviously we didn't live that far north because of the ice sheets. And we're going to talk about megaliths later on. The major megaliths in England, Stonehenge and Avebury are just about

clear of the ice sheets. So the ice sheets came down to about where I am. I suppose down to Chester Liverpool sort of way Manchester, that sort of far south, and then they stopped at that point. So yeah, I don't think England would have been a very satisfactory place to live really during the ice age, but certainly France and Spain and places like that, no problem at all. It would have been very balmy and nice. We had a guest who was past Don Ralph, who has written

books about coming ice ages. He believes we're in one now starting. But the cover of his book, which was not by fire but by ice, was the picture of a city with tall skyscrapers and he had the ice up to the top of the skyscraper. Will it get that high? Oh? Yeah? The ice sheets were three kilometers. Oh, my god, ten thousand foot huge. Oh yeah, over Canada. I mean, that's a lot of ice. That's why it caused such a change in the climate and a change in the sea levels. The sea levels went down by

one hundred and fifty meters. What's that. That's sort of like four hundred and fifty foot or something. So yeah, it made huge, great changes, and yes, that you would

get at that amount of ice. Now, looking forward to the next ice age, we're in a benign era in these orbital cycles, so they fluctuate and they change depending on the eccentricity of the orbit of the Earth, and for the next fifty thousand years or seventy thousand years, we're in a period when we don't have very big fluctuations, and so to get an ice age you need what

I call a great winter. So we have great summers and great winters, and they act very much like a normal summer and winter, except they last twenty two thousand years. And the next great winter, which we're just going into now, is very mild. I would say we're almost at the bottom of it, so it's not a very deep great winter, and so I don't know if it's cool enough to actually force another ice age. And the other thing is, of course, with my paper that I've written, we know

exactly how to overcome an ice age. Now we can actually with our technology, we can overcome them and prevent the next ice an. I now, some regions in the United States have had a very mild winter so far. I mean in Saint Louis in the Midwest, as temperatures of sixty seventy degrees, have had quite a quite a deep winter, an awful lot of snow in California, which they've not had for the like tex Exactly. Why does it fluctuate like that? Oh, it always has if you

look at the climate for places like California. This is what I don't like about climate science is they don't tell you about the history of the climate. California has had droughts and floods, you know, it's like Australia. It's a land of droughts and floods, and it's been doing that for hundreds of years. One of the good guys who points all of this out is Tony Heller. If you look up on his site, and he likes going into the past and digging into the past and saying,

actually this happened a hundred years ago. This happened one hundred and fifty years ago. These climate events which they like to blame on, you know, CO two and global warming, have happened in the past. There are some truths with which they're not telling you. The big one in America is that tornadoes in America, the number of strong tornadoes F three to F five tornadoes has been going down, decreasing for seventy years. Wow, And they won't tell you that.

But that's that's standard data. You've only got to go onto the NOAH website, NAA, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration or something administration, go onto their site, or just do an image search, you know, for the graph strong tornadoes. Look it up, and they have been going down for seventy years. The other one they won't tell you about is that hurricanes tropical cyclones in general have been going down for one hundred and twenty years. They've been decreasing.

Are the ones that are around film big. Yeah, there's been slight changes in the size of them. But there are two sites you can go on to check this data. One is doctor Ryan mao Ue I think it's spelt and he does the satellite data, So that's from nineteen seventy six or something and it's remained static since that time. And then the other one is a paper. It's a

recent paper. It came out in just late last year, I think, and that's by chand at Ol decreasing decreasing hurricane frequency during global warming or something it's called, and that measures. It's got a graph there of tropical site clones from about eighteen eighteen fifty or something and it's been going down ever since that time. So when they're talking about, you know, hurricanes are getting worse, tornadoes are

getting worse, that is completely not true. And you can look up the data yourself and see that they are lying to you. And if if they're only cherry picking data or giving you the wrong data, that is no longer science. That is politics basically, and that's what they're playing. Well, what can't you into interest with the ice age in climate change? Well is mainly because you know, I'm a I'm a truth seeker. I'm My normal job in this regard is looking at the historicity of biblical texts, which

I've been very successful at. I've written twelve books on that. I think you know, finding the biblical characters in the historical records. So it's a search for the truth. And I've always been interested in climate because I mean, that's been a part of my job. I've been a pilot for forty years. We searched the weather and the climate every time you go into work, basically, and I came across just by accident, you know, this site that was talking about ice ages, and they didn't know how ice

ages worked. This was, you know, ten years ago or so. The paper was written six years ago, and I couldn't believe that in the twenty first century nobody knew how ice ages worked, how they were controlled, because it was quite apparent that CO two was not responsible. There's a little thing about ice ages that is kept very quiet when because they say that CO two is the feedback agent. Of course, so when CO two is high during ice ages, the world cools, and when CO two is low, the

world warms. It's a contrarian response because of course we're told that CO two is the primary feedback controlling temperature, and yet during the ice ages the temperature does the complete opposite. Are there some areas on the planets, Ralph that will escape in ice age, or does the entire planet get hit everything apart from the tropics. The tropics doesn't change much at all, but North and South are both hit by the ice age. It gets cold in

both ends of the planet. But the other oddity is that all of the interglacials are northern hemisphere interglacials, so these orbital cycles they are equal and opposite. So you get a cycle in the north and then a cycle in the south, but all of the interglacials are associated with northern cycles. And again that would not happen. If two was the feedback agent, you would get them on either North or south orbital cycles, but we don't. We only get them in the north. And again CO two

not would not do that. So you have to have a different feedback agent. And my feedback agent is dust, not CO two. And that's interesting because it has implications for modern climate. You know, if CO two is not the major operators during ice ages, then perhaps it's not the major operator during the modern climate. Did the c O two levels during the dinosaur era excel or exceed what we have today? Oh yes, yeah, During the Jurassic and Cretaceous they were six times higher than now. So

we didn't have any factories and plants in those days. Yeah, yeah, we didn't have any of that. But also the biosphere was fine. You know, you have the Gretta the Gremlin with their tales of doom. You know, if CO two goes above a certain level, every everything on Earth will die. Well, sorry, during the Jurassic Era and the Cretaceous, CO two was six times higher and the biosphere thrived because CO two is plant food. Of course plants love it. Without CO two,

all life on Earth will die. It's gone. We will come to that with the ice ages. But during the Jurassic era that you know, the enormous size of dinosaurs was only caused by extra CO two. What would you know, what would you do with four billion people who lived in an ice age area when this is happening. You will evacuate them, yeah you would. And you couldn't live up in the north, not with three kilometers of ice on top of the continents, so everyone would have to

retreat down to the tropical regions. And how long would it take to melt? How long would all that ice melt? How long? Well, it took ninety thousand years to build in the last ice age and only five thousand years to get rid of it, then Melt's pretty darn fast. Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at one am Eastern, and go to Coast to Coast am dot com for more

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