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And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Norry with your first time guest Michelle Freed with US hypnotist, clairvoyant remote viewer. Michelle Freed is fully certified in all forms of control remote viewing and completed the Beginning to Advance training programs through the Right Hemisphere Intuitive Specialists and received additional training from the Great Joe mcmonical. She co owns
the Midnight Dot FM network. She's a producer for the Midnight Society radio show with Tim Weisberg, and Michelle founded the publicist company litm Media, where she helps authors get booked on shows and events, as well as producing podcasts herself. Michelle, Welcome to the show. I'm looking forward to this.
Hi'm George. Thank you so much for having me.
How did you get involved in hypnotism and remote viewing?
Oh, well, that's a good question. I live in the Midwest US, in Chicago, and I kind of around a certain age started paying attention to kind of a spiritual I guess awakening you could say. But I also thought I have to find something to do that makes money, so I looked into hypnosis because I felt like in this area where I live, people are not really so much into spiritual It's kind of a lot of conservative people that aren't into like psychic or remote viewing or
anything like that. So for me, it was just hard to find people, and I felt like helping people with hypnosis would be the way to go. And I slowly learned through the school that it is all about being spiritual, and what I loved about it is the science and learning about how your brain works versus the spiritual side of things. That there's just more to us than you know, flesh and blood.
Absolutely, there's no question about it. Then do you combine the two hypnotism with remote viewing? Do they do they match up together? Sometimes?
Well, I would say, because I study a lot of how I want to know how remote viewing works. I know that all. I'm sure you've had like a million people on the show and they all talk about that it works. But I'm very curious about how it works. And a lot of times people will come up to psychics and people that remote view and say, if you're
a psychic, then how come you're not a millionaire? And that's a good question, and so I really wanted to find out what's going on, what's happening when we do this, and so some of my answer, I don't have anything concrete yet, but some of my answer comes about how our brain works, the left brain and the right brain, and when we remote view or do anything psychic, we really have to balance the left brain and right brain.
Or maybe even I use a method with guided meditation using AIDS where I turn down the left brain and then turn up the right brain, because you need more right brain when you're doing this kind of work than the left brain, which is responsible for logic and things like that. And the way that remote viewing work is that we want to describe things rather than name things. And that's like a big deal because we could be going on a wrong path if we are naming things
and assuming things. And so I just kind of learned about that and try to teach my students how to make that balance between that and we get more accurate data when we're aware of what's going on and how to kind of fish for the answers.
I've always Willie Michelle that we are almost like in a universal wireless internet, and that we're somehow all connected somehow. I don't know how, but that when you do remote viewing or telepathy or clairvoyance, it somehow hooks into this wireless system that's out there and does what it does. What do you think of that?
Yeah? I yeah, our right brain or our subconscious is connected to permanent memory, and I kind of think of it a little like you do. But my metaphor is the Aclassic records. It's almost like whatever you know, remember the Dewey decimal system. So it's like going through trying to find your card for the book you want or the thoughts or the memory that you want, and you
want to pull that forward. So we do a lot of that in hypnosis when we're working with people and using that metaphor for remote viewing, it would be if we're traveling to get information about the past or even going into the future. So yeah, I like that analogy.
Well, let's talk about hypnotism for this first half hour, and the next half hour we'll talk about remote viewing in some of the work you've been doing in this area. Tell us about your work with hypnotism.
So hypnotism is I work with people that have I guess that you could say behavior that they want to change. So for example, if they have a fear of flying, or they want to quit smoking or or and this is kind of perfect for this show. I have worked with people that felt like they were abducted and they came to me to be regressed so they can figure out the answers to big questions that they've had or fears that they've had. And can I tell you about
this crazy thing that happened. This is a place, right, So I had three clients within the span of a year, and they lived in separate places, they didn't even know each other, and they all happen to have been abduction cases.
And what was really weird is that each one of them pretty much had the same experience, and they all, in a vary variation, mentioned that they felt like they were on another planet, but they were living in the water, like they could breathe the water, like it was a planet where they were in water, and the vegetation and the creatures and everything were nothing that they have ever seen before. In fact, a lot of them struggled to come up with descriptions of the colors and these creatures
that they were seeing. They just didn't have the vocabulary. And I'm curious if anybody of your listeners ever had an experience about you know, people or people on another planet, or any experience like that where they were underwater and able to breathe the water. Because those were really three separate people that all had a very similar story.
What do you think of their story, Michelle, when they tell it to you, do you think this is a vivid imagination somehow that's come up in hypnosis, or do you think something really happened to them?
You know, I try not to judge or anything like that. I walk into one of these cases like with I say to myself, I know nothing, and I just really let them lead the session. And my job is really you know, their job is to drive the car. My job is to be the headlights. And all I know is that these particular three cases were really in fact. You know, I'm thinking, right now we should remote view it. So take the cases of that remote view it, right,
But yeah, it was really pretty interesting. And you know, because you never know, like as long as they get healed or they feel better afterwards, you know, I don't know if they're they have a lose a dream and that happened or it really happened. I have no clue.
I had a guest on last night who claims that she is dealing with a group of extraterrestrials that come to this planet and they somehow have singled her out as well as a few other people on this planet and gives them input and feedback and things like that, and she was pretty convincing.
I got to tell you, Yeah, I mean it's you know, a lot of times when we remote view people and situations, we're very careful with the tasking that we want to know the reality, not their story, because a lot of times people will believe, truly believe what they're saying, but that doesn't mean that it's true, so it can come off very believable. I'm not saying that that person didn't, but there are people out there that really really believe
what they're saying. So that is, you know, something you want to be aware of.
Well with Michelle Freed. Her website is linked up at Coast tocosdam dot com. Now without hypnotizing us, Michelle tell us how it works. What's the process of hypnotizing somebody?
So hypnotizing is a lot of people get caught up in this idea that of the Hollywood version of it, I think what was the name of the movie office.
Space, Office Space, Yeah, yeah, where the.
Guy dies and they think like he's going to be stuck in hypnosis. Well, hypnosis is actually a natural it's a natural state that we are all in. In fact, anybody listening to this show right now and focusing on our discussion is being hypnotized. And that's why a lot of people in marketing, TV commercials and stuff like that, they take advantage, you know, getting in front of an audience and you know, selling their products because it's hypnosis
essentially is focused attention. So when I add therapy to it, like hypnotherapy, what we're doing is we're in that focused attention. We're taking advantage of it, obviously with the permission of our clients that we're adding a suggestion, we're changing their belief about something, or we're changing their behavior, or we're changing the way they look at something. So that's kind
of a very basic idea of what we do. So we put them into a trance and we work on getting them into a deep trance, like a Theta level, and that's when we sort of we can regress them and then you know, if they had some kind of horrible thing that happened in their lives, we can take them back to that moment and then reframe it, and then their memory about that situation kind of changes and they have a different feeling about the situation. So that's kind of a brief summary of what we do.
And you do it without drugs, right.
No drugs? No?
No. How many times have we driven from point A to point B? You get the point B and you somehow don't have any recollection of how you got there. You're awake, you're alert, you drove well, or else you would have gotten into an accident, but you can't remember how did I get here this fast exactly?
And that's the whole thing that people are. They have a fear of hypnosis that they will not be able to have control. And that's the whole thing is that if you don't want to get on a table and bark like a dog, I can't, no matter what, I
can't you to do that. So yeah, so it's definitely you always have control of the situation, and you can you know, if you have a deep secret or something like that and you don't want anyone to know there's no way that I can get that out of you unless you want to expose that secret.
How long does it take to hypnotize somebody, Well.
It depends. There are kinds. In fact, I had a situation where there was a car accident on the side of the road and I stopped and went to help, and there was a lady or a young girl actually, and she was hysterical. And so in school we're taught that we can put them in hypnosis in a second.
There's a technique that you use. So I was able to calm her down very quickly, and then you have the long version where we can have you lay on the couch all nice and cozy, and and then we slowly, you know, bring you down into trance.
Michelle, Is it true that you cannot hypnoesize somebody to do something they do not want to do?
Exactly? Yes, If you do not want to get on the table and bark like a dog, there's nothing I can do to get you to do that.
Now, does governments and cias and organizations hypnotize people to do certain things?
You know? I know that, you know, they talk a lot about back in the day, like you know, in the seventies and when they were first kind of playing around with hypnosis, they were doing that stuff. So there's a lot of there is a lot of research of things going on. I'm not aware of things now. I know there's a guy, isn't there a guy? I think his name is Dan Brown or something Brown, Bob Brown or something, and he does these YouTube videos where he hypnotized.
He'll walk in and hypnotize somebody thinking that they're holding a whole bunch of money, and then he's buying some I think it was jewelry, and the person thought that they it was just pieces of paper, and he thought that it was actually money in his hand until he realized, you know, five minutes later, Wait a minute, this guy's cheated me. So you know, and I've played with that too. I think, you know, I would go and buy something and I would distract the cashier and I'm not proud
of this, but I kind of am. But I would distract her and then she would forget to ring something up or something, and I'm like, oh, I got something free. But then of course my guilt gets in there and I have to return it. But I did it for research, of course, George, it.
Was, of course, and you did it for a refund to get get the money back, then't you that you never paid?
Don't tell anybody, all right.
Hypnosis has also used it for past life regressions, and it seems to work very well for that, doesn't it.
Absolutely, yes, we do that all the time. In fact, I also use past life regression in remote viewing. But yet there's a couple. You know, there's a lot of people that have unexplained pain or things that happen in their lives that they can explain. And and one lady that I worked with, she had EMO and she tried everything to get rid of it, and so thought, hey,
let's do hypnosis and regress her. And she took me back to before she was born and into another life, and we found that the origin of her ezema came from a different life, and so we worked on that. We healed that and her ezema. It's not completely gone, but it's significantly better.
That's amazing, it really is. Well, what has been the most profound past life regression you have come across?
Let's see profound I got you know, Actually it would be my brother who was he so he was so when I woke him up, so I put you know, I did the whole thing, and I woke him up and I'm like, you know, how how did it go? You know, tell me about your experience. And he's like, I was Jesus. And I'm like it because I'm always thinking, why is everyone Jesus? You know, like come on? And so I'm like, okay, all right, are you sure he's
like out of it? Totally out of it. I'm like, you know what, let's talk about this in a couple of days. So I called him up in a couple days and I'm like, hey, do you remember when you thought you were Jesus? And he's like no, and he's like acting like I'm the idiot, and he goes, I was like, hay Suits, my name was hay Suits, and it was it was biblical times, it was like and he started describing just on the phone, he was there, and he started describing in full details of where he
was and what he was doing. Uh, And then I kind of let him. I'm like, go find a mirror, tell me what you look like. And he described what he looked like and a lot of details, and then I kind of led him to his the moment of his death and uh, long story short is he was pushed down a well and that's how he died.
Oh what a horrible way to go.
Yeah, and I said do you think that this is because he has a fear of heights? And I said, do you think this is a reason you have a fear of heights? And he said, yeah, it makes sense.
Makes sense for show.
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