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And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nory with you. Phil Webster is an author, actor, spiritual seeker, and after living abroad and traveling the world for twenty years, he returned to his native England back in twenty seventeen and embarked on an acting career. At the tail end of the COVID nineteen pandemic, an unexplained event coupled with a devastating loss sent him down a completely different path forever.
His debut book, Letting Glow, documents his journey into the mystical and helps us connect with our highest states of intuition, realigning the connection between our thoughts, consciousness, and authentic selves, and ultimately search us for proof that we survive physical death. His website is Phil Webster dot com, linked up at Coast TOCOASTAM dot com.
Phil.
Welcome back, Hey George.
Thank you for having me back. Nice to speak to you again.
Have you been Yeah, good.
Thank you. Just in a very i mean a very dreary and gray London at the moment, but yeah, that's to be expected.
That's typical London. Tell us about this journey that you went down the spiritual path? What happened to you?
Yeah, sure, we've briefly touched on it before, But for anyone that didn't catch that episode, you know, I'd sort of I've had little moments through the years that it would seen. Every five years or so, I'd have some weird events, something would be almost tapping me on the shoulder, and I'd kind of just take note of these things and think, well, you know, that was weird, and then
just move on. Someonere more profound than others. But really, the catalyst to send me down this path and where the books came from was something that happened around the time my mom passed away, and that was at the end of the COVID nineteen pandemic, and we would FaceTime
every day. I hadn't seen it for a few months, and just to sort of cut straight to it, I called her one night, as we did most days are on FaceTime, and I saw a man standing beside her, and I saw him long enough that I could describe him, and he looked like he was probably in his late sixties, had thin and gray hair, glasses, and kind of shocked me because it was quite late at night. She lived in a very rural place, and we were in another lockdown, and I said, well, who's that?
And she said who's what?
And I was, okay, Mom, I just saw someone and she and she just kind of just dismissed the whole thing, and we spoke for another hour or so, and I believed that there was no one physically with her, and I just kind of just put it down to, I don't know what, a glitch on the phone or something. And then the next morning I got the phone call that my mama passed away. So through all of the grief and everything that comes with that, my mind kept going back to this, this this guy. I was like,
you know, well, what are we talking here? If I rule out that there was no one physically there, then I were talking spirit guys goes to what? So that really that really opened the door of this this whole path that I've gone down.
Do you think for a moment, Phil, that somebody had broken into the house and maybe you've done it, done her some harm?
Yeah?
I mean my initial reaction was so again, it was quite late at night, and she lived on a place called the Isle of Wight, so I kind of knew the various like lots of countryside and beaches and stuff like that, so I knew all of her immediate neighbors. We didn't have any other family there. I'm in London
a few hours away. And she would have kind of like househelp, like nurses that would come and check on her daily and make sure she took her mets and stuff like that, but they would never show up after six.
So yeah, I was. I initially thought it.
Was one of those, but when she just kind of just started talking about what she she talked about them being in the house earlier, and I asked her a couple of times, and just her whole demeanor. I could always tell when someone was with her because she would put on all these airs and graces. You know, she wasn't doing that, But yeah, I wasn't. I don't, I didn't. My mind didn't go to an intruder. It just kind of it just kind of dismissed the whole It just
didn't make sense. And we spoke for like nearly an hour and she just didn't show any signs of anyone being there. So I just kind of just went a bit and just sort of brushed it off. And then, like I said, when I got the news the next morning, then it kind of took on a different aspect. I wasn't really sure what to do with it because I didn't immediately go to the spiritual. My head wasn't really in that space at the time. But I kind of started looking into these things, and the more I did,
the more that made sense. And then I started looking back on other things that had happened throughout my life and looking at them through a different lens, they started to make more sense as well.
Did you ever figure out who that individual might have been?
I actually didn't. I thought it come to a conclusion that perhaps he was like my dad or something. I hadn't seen him for twenty years. I was just kind of going around the circles.
That was the thing. It was.
It was almost it almost offered me some comfort, but it didn't because I didn't recognize the person.
You know.
He didn't look like Uncle Carl or something like that, you know, So, you know, I just had different ideas from people that I was supposed to. In these last couple of years, people are talking about my mum's spirit guys or perhaps it was somebody that she knew that I didn't know. You know, that was around before my time. But I mean, at the end of the day, I just had to sort of take some comfort from it
that something was going on, somebody was with her. But yeah, it's interesting again, a few years before this, I had a bit more of a cynical outlook in life, and I probably wouldn't have brought into any of this stuff. But with all the things that have happened since and that I've learned and wrote about, I'm like pretty much convinced that that we go on.
Yeah, did that episode with your mother's passing lead you to write the first book, Letting Glow?
Yeah, that was it.
That was essentially I just documented my journey, so I sort of poured my grief into it, and then I started learning specifically about mediumship, and I just kind of documented the journey and all these amazing things started to happen. People medium has given me evidence and all that, and then I started learning to be a meetium myself and then giving other people evidence that I know that I
didn't know about. It was just such a again, just such an amazing experience to have people confirm that these things that are coming in to me seemed to be real.
In the latest book, of course, phil is called Glowing Deeper, book two of the Letting Glow trilogy. So it sounds like there's going to be another book.
Yeah, I just when I finished the first book, I had learned so much about all these amazing things. And it was kind of a mixed bag because again, I was pouring my grief into the first book over the first year, but by the time I finished it, I felt like I had a whole other book in me. I just learned about all these amazing sort of spiritual practices from around the world. I started studying female spirituality at the University of Bussalona, which is pretty specific subject.
But I was just intrigued by all these things I was finding out about. So the second book is kind of less about my journey and more about the sort of the spiritual practices as a whole and esoteric things.
What have you learned over the last few years?
So much?
Again, I'm I'm I'm forever the eternal skeptics. So at my core, I really I've had I've experienced so many things now that I am convinced that we that we continue in some form of consciousness but I'll always question it and it kind of annoys me at the same time because I need to stand by this. So Just's wrote two books about it, but I can't help but just sort of look at it always from both angles.
But I've learned.
You're still there.
Yeah, just just the actual Oh.
You're cutting out a little bit. Let's switch over to your cell phone, all right, do.
You want to enforce my beliefs onto anybody else? I totally get it that white people are skeptical about these things, but yeah, just just there's so much that that that I've learned these last few years that that's Yeah, I'm just amazed by it, continuously amazed by it.
Let's talk a little bit about the work that you've done. What have you learned about the other side till.
Well, it's so many aspects to it.
I've learned some from some of with with utmost respects and the reverence I've learned from some of the best mediums around, such as Gordon Smith in the UK, James vampraor your Side Claire abroad. That pretty very quickly, just just the evidence that these people were giving me. And it wasn't like I was running from one medium to
the next. I was just intrigued about this whole thing and just really opened myself up to the idea that that it's a real thing, and and very quickly it just seemed to establish itself from me as Okay, this
is this is all legit. I went on to study with some indigenous Shamans and I was really amazed and wrote about the in the second book about the similarities between a lot of ancient cultures, not just your side of the pond, over here in the British Isles and through Europe as well, that we were all talking about the same thing. That there's so many commonalities between sort of older or sort of more traditional elements of spirituality that are really essentially the same thing we're doing as
modern mediumship as well. It really sort of transcends time and back in the day oceans, we were all coming up with the same words for these things. One thing that I really dove into in the second book again was kind of more sort of mythology around around the British Isles and Europe and the States, and we even had some of the same words, like when we start talking about nature, spirits and things like that. There were so many commonalities, even though we weren't connected.
At the time.
There's a section in your book that goes into the metaphysics of time and living in the now. Tell us about that.
All right, how long have you got Yeah, all right, well that's good. Yeah.
I had a very profound experience in my mid thirties, and this quoite is somewhat.
Of a long winded story.
But back then, I've lived abroad from the UK for around twenty years, and I was running bars and clubs at the time, and I've kind of, as I mentioned, developed a little bit of a cynical attitude towards life. I guess things won't go in the way that I want them to go, thing like that. Yeah, And I remember waking up one morning and this is a bit of an abstract concept, but I'm not the first person to talk about it, but I remember just kind of
having this this observation the time was nonlinear. You know, we've only really got the moment of now and kind of, you know, everything else is just like a memory of the past or a projection of what we expect of the future, but really it's just.
Now all the time.
And on this particular morning, as I was thinking about that something shifted, and I can't emphasize kind of how powerful it was that it would terrified me. It kind of some means to a full blown panic attack. And it was as though people talk about living in the moment of now. It was like that times a thousand. All of a sudden, it was, as you know, linear time fell away and it was just now, and I couldn't switch it off. It was just now, now, now, all the time, and.
I thought I was going nuts. Essentially.
I tried to go to work that night, and I was sort of trying to explain to my colleagues what was going on with me, and they were just looking at me.
Like, sure, okay, you were nuts, right.
Well, yeah, I mean I thought I was.
Really it didn't stop, and I can't explain. It was as though it was an ultimate awareness of where I was right then and there all the time. I couldn't just drift off and sort of get lost in my thoughts or think what I'm going to have for dinner that night or what movie I watched last night. It was just now all the time.
It was just like this.
Ultimate awareness, as though I were I don't know, like my brain was made of crystal or something. It was just it was just really like a hyper reality. And after a few weeks of this, I thought, Okay, I can't this was it was too much, and I went to a doctor and try to explain the best I could, because it's such a weird thing to try and explain. And they started using words like psychosis, which which terrified me.
And they gave me some anti anxiety mens to gave me sleeping pills stuff like that, and the sleeping pills would knock me out. I'd wake up the next day and this whole thing would just start up again, just this kind of ultimate awareness of now it was just overwhelming. I did a couple of weeks later, I went to another doctor and I started not to take this down the dark path, but I started really getting to the
end of my rope. This thing really just wouldn't let up, and I thought, well, if this is the way my brain's working now, then I really I'm not sure this works for me, you know anymore. Months later, and this was just twenty four to seven, whatever this thing was that was going on, I found a therapist. I went to this guy was that he was a hypnotist, so I thought, all right, I'm just just zapped this thing away from me, you know, And he was kind of like, well, no, it doesn't, it's not how it works.
But anyway, he gave me a.
Very basic grounding meditation and he started using words like mystic and shamanic sickness and things like this.
I had no idea or interest in what he.
Was talking about, and he this, this meditation brought me back pretty much instantly, and I was just thankful for that. And I practiced this thing every day, and very very gradually I kind of came back online, you know, to join the rest of the herd. And I just was like, okay, well, I don't know what that was. I was just thankful to put it behind me and to have my mental health in shake, you know. And and I had to say,
kind of really bashed my egos to the floor. And I came back a lot humbler and kind of a lot more appreciative of of everyone in my life. And I sort of dropped some dead weight, changed jobs, stuff like that. So, you know, not to dismiss mental illness by any means, but essentially, what this guy told me that I was going through was a spiritual awakening, and that it was fairly common. And again at the time I was like, okay, great, whatever, and just put it
behind me. But once my mom had passed and all these other experiences started to come to light, I kind of look back on that with a very different different perspective, you know, almost as though again something would happen every few years, not as profound as that.
But every five years or so.
It would be as though something were like setting me up for whatever this is. I know that sounds quite grandiose, but I just feel that now I'm finally on the right path to what I've always should have been doing.
So why do you think it took your mother's passinge to get you into this mode?
Yeah, I mean, I suppose for any of us, and just to bring it back to a more practical level after all that I just said, you know, when we lose a parent, I think we really lose the one true witness to our lives. So like any of us, I mean, obviously people have different relationship for their parents, and I.
Had a very good one with my mum.
Of course, you know, she would drive me nuts from time to sign, but for the most part we were good that right. Yeah, so I think it's such a profounded life changing experience, like you've really had that one person that was always there, and then it's very much like stepping into an ultimate reality where it's like, okay, this is me. Now it's I mean personally, I don't have any any siblings or very much family, so it
was really a shift in everyday reality. And then just that that wanting to know that the person's okay, and of course from from my side, just missing her and and really looking for that connection. So that that was really the instigator to just kind of look at everything from a different angle. And when I did, all these weird things that had happened in the past made sense. And it's also odd because you know, I'll talk about these things, I'll talk about one experience after another. These
things were very few far between. In the middle of this, I was just concerned with paying the bills and going to work and all the rest of it. You know, I wasn't walking around like Yoda or anything. But yeah, now it's kind of this, This whole thing is. Since writing the books, this has really much.
Been my focus.
Are strange things still happening to you?
Well?
I just feel that since opening up to again mediumship in particular, that it seems to be becoming more common and there's not so much of a weird thing.
I think that when we have.
These experiences, for any of your listeners that may have had a supernatural experience or something like that, they tend to come in in a different way. I mean, of course, there are physical things like people talk about seeing ghosts or feeling a cool breeze or something like that, but a lot of the time I think these things come in as a knowing, and when you experience that, it's kind of undeniable, but when you try to look back on it, it tends to not sit in the memory
as the same way that everything else does. You know, it's a very internal, subjective experience that we don't really have anything else to relate it to because they're very often out of the blue and not what we're used to. But I feel that, yeah, when you kind of go down this path and start looking for these things and open up to it, then they do seem to come in more regularly. Of Course, the flip side of that is that a skeptic might say, well, when you're looking
for those things and you're going to see them. But it does seem to work like that.
What is the biggest message you want people to take away when they read Glowing Deeper?
I believe that it touches on a lot of subjects, obviously life after death, but I think the one important aspect that runs throughout both books is that we're not We don't have to get caught up in the daily dramas in our.
Thoughts, that we are something that observes as our thoughts.
There are a lot of meditations in the books, and they really teach us to just be able to connect with that in a knowing and then when you sort of can tune into that, it tends to the more trivial things seem to fall away.
You know, when you can recognize.
That that you're the one observing your thought, then you don't necessarily have to get offended by something someone says or all of those kinds of things, and it's really a very liberating experience. So yeah, hopefully, I feel that that's really one of the core messages along with the I believe that we do survive physical death.
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