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before me. I'm like, oh my gosh. You know, it's a fellow Kentuckian. But Richard's good that way, he knows what he's doing. I love Richard. He's a great guy. But now here you are, and you know, you were talking about the Penny Royal podcast before. You do have some updates since you've last been oncos was a couple
of years ago. But before you get into any of the other updates that you have finished telling that story about the bones the Bone people in Kentucky where they were going and doing this whole big thing and then nothing, nothing was there, nothing was found at all. Well, how I don't understand where the Bone people come from.
Yeah, so yeah, I love the you know, televised right Lines in Weshington Local Network.
I love it.
Right tried to find this this location, right But the old books, the historical surveys, they mentioned and they refer to this group as the Bone people because of these bones and pyramids of bones, petroglyphs, and the caves beneath you know, Lexington, Kentucky and supposedly and this is where I think it ties into. You know, you went to
University to the University of Kentucky. There are stories that beneath some of those buildings on campus, it busts into the limestone cave system where there's this ancient prehistoric group, the Bone people that they've referred to exists, right, And I've always loved that. I think it's you know, living in Lexington and having the house up there for years and years. You know, when you when you drive downtown, there's a big rise right there where Reparena is, right
where all the Wildcats and basketball games are played. That little rise right there right is hollow. There's a giant cave beneath that area that's in Lexington. They have to dig twice as deep because of this cave system at the town.
Oh, I had no idea, you know, I do know that when you walk in different you know, any of the woods, wooded areas anywhere, you've got to be careful that you just don't fall into a hole.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Literally you'll fall into holes.
Yeah yeah. And that's the thing about the Penny Roll that's one of the defining features of this region is that it's a karst region. Because of all the limestone and the sandstone the water right and that's why we have the largest cave system in the in the world
is Mammoth Caves. Is because Kentucky has all this limestone, the sandstone, and so it's carved out this crazy landscape of sinkholes and caves and chambers, and it stretches all the way across the state, right from the western part and around Hopkinsville, around Manuscave eastward into you know, beneath where we are and in this area in Pulaski County with the Sloan's Valley Cave system, which is the thirteenth largest cave system in North America, and it connects with
all of the Manus Caves systems as well. So you know, it's there's a there's a strange subterranean current that kind
of runs beneatht Kentucky and into all these stories. You know that I think is it's so fascinating and also I think a lot of people aren't familiar with the Kentucky anomalies, and that is that was one of the first things that I found when I moved down to Somerset, when I really started with minis Kentucky, was that there are three major spikes of geomagnetic energy right in the fields in North America, and one is in southern Alaska,
one is in Sedona, Arizona, which I'm sure everybody's familiar with. But the largest spike is in Kentucky and it's a really yes, it's called and MASSA refers to it as the Kentucky anomaly. They don't know what causes it. They assume that there's some type of mass in the core of the Earth center beneath the surface, right in the lcosphere that produces it. But for some reason, right here in Palaskon County, right here on the Piny Royal where the Daniel the National Force is, is the largest spike
of geo mechanic energy in North America. And then you can see it on all these maps. You can see it all in all of these satellite surveys, and I really believe that that is what contributes to a lot of the highest strangeness, definitely on the Tiny Royal, but throughout Kentucky, you know, and even stretching down into northern Tennessee.
It's just there are so many stories, and I think that's the thing that I found that was so fascinating and looking at all these mysteries and pining all mysteries. Is that I think there's a concentration of strange stories in one area, right, that all crisscross and they all congregate around the Kentucky anomal.
Well, that's interesting. I had no idea. I had no idea about that.
And hmm.
Interesting. I'm just you got me thinking.
Now, that's interesting.
If we go back to the tunnels, you know, well Mammoth Cave, you get all the caves and you have all these tunnel systems. Are you familiar with the tunnel system in Louisville where they do the Christmas lights and the tunnel?
Yes, yeah, we think. Is it called Louisville Underground is what it is?
Yeah, something like that. Yeah. Yeah, Well, we do a segment and we haven't done one in a while. Got to do it where George Norri will We'll call out where's Willison. I'll be somewhere and you know, and I'll say where I'm at. And one of the times I was at the tunnels because I was living in back in Louisville at the time. Again that's where I grew up.
I never knew about that area until again I left and then came back and you know these lights under Louisville, they have these great Christmas lights for you to drive your car through, and you see all these lights for a long long time you're driving through, you go down deep into this tunne it's like a mile down, I think, and then you're just driving through all these great lights.
Right.
I like the way they used to do it. They used to do it where locals could do their own little, neat little thing. Then it got almost too corporate into like, you know, I like when it's all individual. The next thing you see, you know, you can see the Brownie troop created this or whatever, you know, that kind of thing, or the local te ball team did this. I kind of I wish they'd go back to that, but who knows.
But but I actually went to those tunnels when when the lights were turned off, and you know, everybody was already done doing the Christmas thing and did this special thing on Coast. But the guy, me and this one guy were the only ones there. He opened it up for me to come in because of course Coast is on later at night, right, And and the tunnel system
is absolutely amazing. It's huge. Apparently, you know, I don't remember all that the guy said, of how far it goes, But I was at one point he went off to the bathroom or an office or something. And if you don't have a light on, I mean, it's just dark because it's underground, a mile underground, and so you rely on those lights, and they just have so many lights on, right, I mean, so he had it on where he you know, where he and I met by, you know, like the office.
It's all down below, and I guess he had to go get a key or go get something. And he left me there by myself. And as I'm waiting, I hear, you know, the highway on above us, because there's a highway a mile up there's a highway, and so I'm hearing the cars, and I guess big semis, you know, maybe a semi go by or something. And I remember hearing it going Holy Cow, and I just thought, big semi going by. It must have you know, you know how there's certain areas in the road and it goes
over and it's louder than others. So I'm thinking that must be it. And I heard it maybe two maybe three times, And when he came back down, I said, man, you know those trucks are loud, and he looked at me, and I remember us just we went on a golf cart for a while. But a lot of these areas would be wet. You know, it's a cave. It's a cave. It's tunneled out, but it's freaking really a cave, right, and so water's coming down in puddles and things like
so you got to drive around. Some areas are wetter than others. And we were out at one point off of the vehicle and we were both standing together and heard another one of those big like semi trucks go by, and it sounded horrible. And when you're down there, that's all you can think think of is whenever you do hear something strange, you put something to it to kind
of make to humanize it so you're okay. Well, when he heard it, and this is a guy that worked there and he was there all the time, he heard that and he freaked out. And I looked at him because he's my safety guy. He's the guy that knows this area. I should feel fine with him, right, he's got my back. No, he was freaking out and he turned around as if there was some huge dragon way back in the you know, back of the where we were.
And I looked at him and I said, that's just a semi going over the road up the highway above right. He said, no, it's a mile away. That's not what that is. I don't know what that is. I'm like, well, I heard it like three or four times while you were gone earlier. And it was crazy. Yeah, that these tunnels continue to go back and all over the place, and people do really neat things with those tunnels, because
you know, like people that would grow mushrooms. They have a mushroom company, so they grow mushrooms in the darkness, and and so all kinds of things are in there, but who knows. And I asked him, I said, do you know everything that's in these areas that people lease out from under the tunnel? He said no, I don't know half the stuff that is here. And I've never gone as far as you possibly can in them. And he's been there for a long time, like at least
a year or more. So isn't that isn't that kind of scary?
Didn't it?
It was scared?
Well, I know that they have zip lines down there, too, Yeah, right.
They do that.
Zip lines. I was like, there's no way I would do that zip fly because they actually hang out over like nothing underneath you for a good long while. Here exactly right there was the zip lines.
Right is so such an interesting place too, because Waverley Hills is up there, right, Probably that investcates, you know, ghosts and the parent are probably familiar with Waverly Hills. You know, that's such a famous place.
It's a crazy place. I got friends. I'm friends with the owners and the people there. They're wonderful people. They bought that place. And when you have have you been to it?
I have not. That's the thing, dude. I've seen it on so many shows. I have not had a chance to go and escape for myself.
Nathan, your time is up.
You gotta go.
We'll see you later. Bye. Come on, you're not worthy. Oh you gotta go. When you pull up to it, when you pull up to I mean, this place is huge, okay, but when you first pull up to it, you just don't even think it's real. It's just not real. It's too big, it's massive, and it looks like it's alive. When you first drive up to it, it looks like it is breathing at you. I mean, it's just you have to go.
You have to go.
Well, a friend of mine actually just recently had contacted me. He was going to buy going to buy a house next to or within a you know, a very short distance of Waverley Hills, to turn it into an AIRBND, just for investigators that were coming there to investigate. And I was like, man, that's a great idea.
Well, they were looking to do a hotel with it, but it's just so much money. I mean, but they do all this investigations. They have areas you can sleep and things like that. But man, dude, you tell them Connie sent you. I don't know what it'll get you. They might say, get out of here.
But you've been there, right, Have you investigated? Have you have you? Yeah?
Yeah, And with my own show we do a lot there. We do a private investigations with them overnight. Yeah. Yeah, they've been good to me.
That's awesome.
We've known each other for a while, so yeah, you know, grow but I didn't know it when I was living there. I didn't know about the place. It was not till right left and came back.
Well, also, you know, being some loill have you heard the story about the I can't think. I didn't even think we would go here, right, you know. But have you heard the story about the statue of Pan in one of the parks in Louisville that supposedly comes alive one night a year and Rick's havoc in the park. Have you heard that story?
No?
No, God, I can't think of the top of my head what park it is. But one of the parks in Louisville has this statue of Pan, you know, of the god, the Greek god Panned, you know, a sager like figure, you know, and like like supposedly it comes off of this fountain and it makes it to lake through the park.
Oh man, probably one I've been to lots of times. I'm telling you, Hey, I grew up in a haunted house, so I know, I know there's a lots of hauntings everywhere there. And you know some people talk about it too, that a lot of the homes built. You know, you're talking about the limestone. The bottom of our basement part was right up against it was you know, unfinished in one side. You know, you had to open up the door.
Maybe you just go on there's like dungeon like it was right up on the rock that it was built on, that the house was built on, and a lot of homes and basements were like that.
Right.
There's some spooky, creepy things from that.
Yeah. And water too. I think water plays a significant role in that with the limestone, right, and I think that's contributed to some of the strangeness that we found here, you know, on the on the Penny Royal, you know, And that's something I go into pretty deep. And the upcoming season three is the effect of water because you know here in Somerset, you know, in Plaska County, we're on Lake Cumberland, and there's tons of weird stories that
connect the lake. You know, people have witnessed UFOs coming up out of the lake. I've interviewed some people that have those stories. And also, you know, it's one of those lakes where there were tons of towns and this is you know, pre nineteen forties, but uh, you know these these Rasena, Kentucky and other places, and when they built this, when the Army Corps engineers built like kind of one, they flooded all of those places and there were tons and tons of cemeteries that were not moving.
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