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We are back with Bruce de Torres, God School nine to eleven and JFK. He's also the marketing director for Trying To Publishing and host of Reality with Bruce De Torres, the podcast Bruce, how do we listen to reality? And just tell us a little bit about it? What do you talk about?
Thanks?
It's on Rumble and the channel is Reality with Bruce Detres, and I claim to pursue and discuss current events, history and the nature reality. And I too interviewed Jim Deugenio recently in the last month or so, and Martin Sief, former head of I Believe Foreign News for UPI for many many years, and I do about one episode a week and trying to all those great books alluded to. It's trinday dot com and I helped Chris Milligan with his podcast The Journey, where he interviews many of his authors.
He's published almost two hundred books in the last twenty years, and at trinday dot com people can find Chris's podcast. I'm kind of like the Ed McMahon on it. I introduced people and my kidbits a little during the conversation. And that's that's an unbelievable curriculum of about one hundred and fifty episodes, Richard, All this kind of information just so wide and so deep.
It's fantastic.
So before the break we were talking about JFK. So let's shift gears and talk about nine to eleven. And again, just like JFK, you know, I've probably examined it from every conceivable angle, and just like with JFK, we tend to get meyered down in the details. You know, were there planes that were remotely flowing into the buildings global Hawk technology where the planes in fact holograms? Was the building where the buildings wired for demolition? Were they using
nano thermite? And now there's you know, so much infighting within the sort of the nine to eleven truther or crowd. Well, you don't what do you mean you don't subscribe to nano thermite? You must be a you know, a disinformation agent or something. Is that the intention is to is to get us all fighting, all this infighting and distract us from I guess the big picture, just like with JFK.
Absolutely, and because it just makes most people thrap their hands and say I don't want to be part of this circus, this madhouse, and so they don't look at it. And that's the bottom line with that, and it distracts from a bigger view of it, pulling back and getting a bigger view of it, meaning it was covered up with a whitewash the nine to eleven Commission, just like the Kennedy assassination with the Warren Commission. And then now what we're left with.
Is what we need to deal with, which is.
A government that aids and abets crimes, the murder of a president, the terrorist attack at four locations in the United States on nine to eleven. Let's see New York, the Pentagon, Shanksville, three locations. I'm not missing one might know. No, So that's that's four planes. That's the situation, you know, and it's very sobering. It's what does one do? But we can get into that. Where do you want to go into nine to eleven from there?
Well, I want to ask you whether, like JFK, was this another sort of ritual to induce mass trauma but also elements of the occult. Was this some sort of I don't know, a blood ritual?
Yes, and before I elaborate a little on that. I do want to say that the practicality of my book and examining all these type of things begins with let's find and prosecute the criminals. That's the most urgent thing that everybody could do, is like, let's get our representators, have real investigations about these things, find and prosecute criminals, and then save for the evening. And this is a
perfect time a day to do this, Richard. You know, around the proverbial fireplace reckon with a book called.
The Most Dangerous Book in.
The World nine to eleven as mass ritual by sk Bane, where he documents and shows the intentional use of numbers and symbols in nine to eleven, for instance, the numbers of the various flights eleven, one, seventy five, and this that the other thing, how they line up with Alistair Crowley's lessons of magic and how to invoke certain results,
and a number of other things. The shape of some of the buildings around the World Trade Center, and even the fact that those towers reflect I believe a Tarot card. So Richard, that's more evidence that, like JFK's assassination, it was a project was it was an outdoor public human sacrifice, just like JFK and Little Dally Plaza.
Yes, yes, what do you make it?
Rise on it?
Because the first plane got all cameras on the towers, and then the second place so the world could see live or on videotape the slaughter.
Sorry, right, And it's been played as an endless loop, almost NonStop for the last twenty three years.
And our eyeballs and our attention, and our fear and our outrage at that esoteric level, which is where these plotters live or are obsessed with, or use, all eyeballs, all our attention, all our fear, all our emotion gives power to their intention. And their intention is to cower us in here. It's having us all on our knees in obey since two. Yes, you've got the power to do this to us. Yeah, I'm nothing but a powerless spectator.
And I'm laughing at it because that's a great defense, a reaction to the overwhelming implications of Wow, that's what we're up against.
Yes, what do you make of this phenomenon known as predictive programming? Where you know before the towers fell, there were clues on episodes of the Simpsons. We saw twin towers on fire on a couple of I think there was a rap album. There's so many, you know, clues as to what was going to happen before the event.
What is behind predictive programming. We've seen it elsewhere, We saw, you know, a book written about this sinking of the Titanic fifteen or twenty years before, and almost in exacting detail. The similarities behind that.
You think from my reading, it's part of the alchemical deal that these sorcerers and they think of themselves as sorcerers, and they do think of themselves as wizards who are manipulating energy for their mouth, you know, purposes.
It's part of the deal.
Like if they show us in advance what they're going to do and we let it happen, then the onus, the burden is on us. It absolves them of responsibility, it seems. Trying to interpret, you know, lots written trying to analyze how that works. I also think there's a statistic glee and coming their noses at us. We told you, we showed you, and though we did it anyway, you're reminding that reminds me of I think it was the
opening ceremony for the Olympics in twenty twelve. It was this one hundred foot tall puppet that looked like the classic Death, the hooded figure of Death with a sceptor. Maybe it didn't have a scepter. But on the ground in the stadium there were hundreds of people choreographed moving around and they looked like nurses and doctors pushing hospital beds.
With patients in them.
Oh, I think the giant held a giant syringe and a foreshadowing COVID in the vaccines, right.
Right, I remember that.
Yeah, very attention to notice these things, Richard.
It's like real life is.
Just so much more fascinating than video games or metrics Netflix series. Some people ask me, you ever want to be an actor again, Bruce, and we you know, Warren Batty said the same thing in the late nineteen sixties with the political upheaval. He said something like, I can barely make movies because real life is just so much more urgent and exciting.
You know exactly, Well, you mentioned video games. It feels like we're in a video game. What do you make of this simulation theory that this is one big video game and then we have to figure out you know, how to escape.
I love that idea because it's it's a parallel to the spiritual writings describing this as maya as an illusion.
And I don't know if I can describe it well, but I also see it as a good model, if not literally technology, it's a nice analogy to what might be going on and in the grand consciousness that we all might be an expression of. And I know that there's a lot of maybe mit level you know brains who have said that the math of reality and physics is identical with or so far, you know, there's there's we haven't found a discrepancy that would rule it out as being synonymous with some kind of of a program
as a technology. So what do we know?
Right?
So before we get to you know, how do we escape? How do we uh, what do the Hindus say, you know, get off this Hindu wheel of life, advance to the next level, escape this prison planet, whatever metaphor you want to use. Let's talk about another element of this book, and that is school and how that figures into all of this. What is what is the what is the purpose of you know, these public institutions, many of them
which you know look like prisons. Quite frankly, what how does how does the the public education system fit into everything that we've been talking about thus far.
It's a great example of what I call opposite land. School stands as supposedly and pretends to be something good for us, something good for our kids, something necessary, something unquestionable, And in fact, I say, and I make the case in my chapter about school, it's the total opposite. It's a crime against humanity. It's torture, it's child abuse, it's
psychological warfare. It is unnatural. It is destructive of the blossoming of a beautiful child into a sane, healthy, happy, exuberant adult, dancing and singing their way through life and expressing their powers and indulging every creative whim to see can I learn this? Can I create this? Can I do this? Can I become this? It is a cinder block on the natural development of a human being to make exactly what comes out of school now for a century.
Weak.
Followers, people who can't stand to too much of a degree. Richard, I'm now I'm painting with a broad stroke, and it sounds like I'm playing.
Everyone, Bruce, one hundred percent of.
Us No, No, because our life force and our creativity really is undeniable. Unfortunately, we have to process the indescribable trauma of the public school experience, specifically, what's so wrong about it? In freedom, children follow their curiosity and run around and explore and learn easily and naturally. We are in a super learning state until we're seven years old.
I refer people to the work of doctor Bruce Lipton to enjoy learning all about that and someone like John Taylor Goto and either is dumbing us down or his big The Hidden, the Underground History of American education makes the point that the average young person child can learn reading and writing and basic math in about fifty hours.
Fifty hours Richen right, What are those eighteen years of imprisonment for but to keep us and this is my specific act, to keep us from making decisions, so we do not develop our judgment, so we do not trust ourselves. We are terrified and angry when forced to make decisions. We developed the habit of doing quote what everyone else does, unquote what's quote normal, and obeying authority unlike pre schooled
year before school did this to humanity. Boys and girls became men and women at different rates and at different paces. And rose to competence at different paces. Example, in the American Civil War, on both sides, north and South, there were a number of officers of little combat units or.
Ships who were twelve fourteen, fifteen, among a squad or a company of a couple dozen or a couple hundred others who were eighteen nineteen, twenty, twenty one, twenty four.
Because the twelve year old was most competent.
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