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And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you Paul Wallace with US international best selling author whose books probe the world's ancestral narratives for their insight into human origins, human potential in our place in the Cosmos, and as a senior churchman. Paul ser for thirty three years as a church doctor, theological educator and archdeacon in the Anglican Church in Australia. He has published numerous titles on Christian mysticism and spirituality and is a popular speaker
at conferences all around the world. His latest work is called The Eden Conspiracy, Ancient Memories of et Contact and the Bible Before God. Paul, welcome back. Have you been?
Did I enjoy it on? Fantastic Thanks and it's wonderful to be with you again. Thank you.
You have done it again with the Eden Conspiracy. My friend tell me a little bit about this one.
Thank you so much. And I should say thank you for your endorsement on the cover encouragement. It means the world to me. In the Even Conspiracy. Basically I have circled back to the Bible where I began this journey into ancient et contact, and I asked the question, what are the ancient texts about? If we can accept that there are et entities lurking in those texts that we thought were all about God, and it turns out there about pay your contact as well, what was the purpose
of those texts? What was it our ancestors wanted us to know and to learn when they wrote those texts? Is it about God? Is it about aliens? Or is it about something else? And as I've probed the root meanings of keywords, I've discovered there's a really rich education being offered us by our ancestors who bequeathed the Bible to us. Lessens in emotional intelligence, social progress, lessons about
Covit government and hidden hands in politics and economics. There is so much education offered us once we begin reading the text through a different lens.
Paul, I've always wondered when the Bible discusses fallen angels, I've always wondered if those fallen angels might have been ets. What do you think?
Yes, I do think some of the fallen angel stories are what we would call ets, and it's a funny word angel because when people hear it, they interpret in a religious way. They think the Smiths mean a spiritual being or an emissary of God. But the word angel actually only indicates the function of the being you're looking at. It tells you that this is an entity on a mission or with a message, or sent by someone else. But the word angel doesn't actually tell you what kind
of being it is. And so when you read about fallen angels in the Book of Enoch, for instance, it turns out you are looking at flesh and blood entities who could hybridize with human beings. So that's not how we usually think of angels, is it.
No, not at all, And of course you've come to your conclusion about this about et contact with our ancestors. How did you come to this idea?
It was really through my background in Bible translations. So I've spent fifteen years training paths in hermeneutics, which is the principles of interpreting ancient texts. And so we would learn source analysis, working out where the texts have come from. Are we reading the original form? If not, how do they differ from the original form? Analysis? What kind of literature is is it? And then always we ask the fundamental question, what do the words mean? What's the root
meanings in these texts? And it was really those three questions when I applied them to a normalism the text I found there was a story just a translation away from being blindingly obvious, that was about something quite unfamiliar to me, and it was the story of Palio contact.
We've heard a lot about the Brigadier General of Israel, Heiley Ashman, talk about his contact and what he has been saying.
Well, he is an extraordinary figure. For twenty seven years, Brigadier General ham Ashad was Israel's chief of space security, and in Christmas twenty twenty he held a meeting in which he announced that he was publishing a book sharing with the world his knowledge on the topic of contact. Now bear in mind it was his job to know if contact was happening, and it had been his job
for twenty seven years. He was a very authoritative, credible person, and at the age of eighty, he stands up in front of the press and he says, on the basis of his knowledge, we have been in contact at a covert government level for decades and decades that there is technology, technology sharing going on, that our visitors, who are many, comprise a galactic federation, and that many are here as
part of their own research projects. And he didn't go into great detail as to what the research was other than the USA, Israel and other world powers were in on these arrangements. Now, it's one thing to read that in the National Inquiry from someone you've never heard of, but when it's someone with the credibility of Hayam Eshet, you take it seriously. And he was only echoing what we had heard from other credible figures around the world.
And when he said it, I thought, oh my goodness, this is exactly the same as what the Bible says in its stories of the Sky Council. What it calls the Sky Council, Hamashed calls the Galactic Federation.
And he has no reason to lie, Paul, does.
He He's got nothing to gain from it, might say, always just trying to sell a book, But really, someone of that credibility at that age, do you really think that's the motivation. I don't think. So. He's a very credible person who's taken a great risk. The natural response of people is bafflement and ridicule. But he's willing to wear that because he feels the topic is that important.
What about the possibilities too, that mankind received a leap of information to allow us to go from one point to another.
Quickly, or I think this has happened many times. I mean, people talk about the technological leaps that we made after the Second World War, which was a time of intense UFO sightings, and those who join the Dots feel that's
when this technological collaboration began in modern times. But I think you can go back ten thousand years ago and listen to the Babylonian story of Ohanas and the app Kalou, where you can go back sixty thousand years ago, listen to Aboriginal Australian story from the Yongu people of the Mimi spirits, and you're hearing about another intervention. In the Bible.
We've got stories of Dagon and Ashera, and they were entities who were remembered for having come in the deep past and taught our ancestors out of farm which plants were good to avoid, which were good for food, which were good for medicine, which were good for unlocking our brains, higher powers and cultures all around the world have these stories of visitors from the stars coming and enabling us to make that great leap forward that turned us from
living in subsistence on the planet's surface to being civilization builders.
Paul Wallace with us. This book is called The Eden Conspiracy. We'll take calls next hour with Paul. Paul again. Who was Asher?
Asher is a very interesting figure. She was a female entity remembered by the ancient tribes of Israel. We can find figurines of her scattered throughout ancient Judea, throughout the Levant and far beyond. She's emphatically female. The carvings emphasized the revolver, the breast, big bouffont here and she's remembered as the one who came with others, I believe, and taught our ancestors the secrets of farming, and with farming
come surpluses, and with surpluses comes specialization. That's when you can begin building cities and becoming a civilization. So she was the one that the ancient tribes of Israel commemorated, and to the extent that great kings like Solomon built temples and had altars and employed priests to do services and active commemoration to honor her for her contribution to human history.
Then there was Shiva Hassa miyam.
Are that Sava asha Miaim is a fascinating thread in the story of the Bible. It means the sky Armies. Now a lot of traditional translations render it as the heavenly Host. But I think when you hear the words heavenly Host, you're probably thinking about Christmas carols and picturing the reading of the Sistine Chapel. But the root meaning is sky armies. And if I say that, you will begin to picture people who might actually have some equipment
with them, some armaments with them. And when we read the stories of the sky Armies, yes they had armaments, they had airborne technology, and the memory of them was really central to ancient Jewish practice until the eighth century BCE, when kings and high priests started coming on the scene who wanted to airbrush all that memory out and just pair Judaism down so that it was just Monotheism, but
with none of the memory of these other beings. But there were carvings of the Sayer Hasha maim throughout Judea and even in the Jerusalem Temple.
The subtitle of your book is fascinating ancient memories of et contact and the Bible before God? How can we have a Bible before God?
I know I'm being a bit cheeky with that subtitle, but I.
Think it works. It works.
It does intrigue people because we think of the Bible as being all about God, and God is certainly in the book, and I'm happy to call it God's book, but it's God's book about many things. And many of the stories that we've translated as God's stories are actually stories of pedeo contact, which ancient translators have struggled to understand,
and they've turned them into God's stories. It's quite challenging because there's a word we're very familiar with, Yahweh or Jehovah, and it's the holy name for God, and that concept is there in the Bible, but that name occurs in much older stories, stories of other kinds of entity, the Ela hymn, the powerful ones or Elion, the powerful one, the most senior, or Elsha died, a powerful one, the destroyer, and these root meanings clewe us that there are stories
earlier than our God's stories that have provided the core as some of these ancient biblical narratives.
How far back, Paul, do you think we were visited and was it an ongoing thing.
I think we've been visited many, many times. If we look at the Sumerian kings list, it's very interesting that the dates on that, measured in years and sars, take us back to just over two hundred thousand years ago. And I believe there was a visitation then. That was a kind of colonization, and our ancestors were on the planet at that time, similar in looks and build but not quite as clever, not clever enough to build a farm or build a city, but clever enough to mine
for somebody else. And I think that was happening then. And then there was certainly another intervention ten thousand years ago. That's the Babylonian story of Oannas and the Appkalu and the Astrara story in the Bible. I think that's around sixty thousand years ago, the one that really began lifting us as a species, giving us the foundations of life as a civilization. But there's probably been many other interventions besides.
You base a lot of your books on Eden. Tell us why.
Well Eden is? If I say the word Eden, we think of that as the place of human origin. I find that the Bible and ancestral narratives all around the world are very interested in human origins. But when we go back to those stories, it turns out they're not actually stories of beginnings. There's stories of a rehabilitation of our planet after a catastrophe and a tweaking of homosapians to get us a little bit smarter. So Eden isn't
what we thought it was. And that's why I keep using that name to take us back to that point that defines who are we, what are we capable of, and who comprises our wider cosmic family, And it can Eden we find the answers.
Where do you think these ets came from?
Paul?
Was it one sect, one race, or did they come from all over the universe?
I think many Haymished talks about a federation, which implies many demographics. Dmitriy Medvedev, the previous Prime Minister of Russia, wouldn't say how many et demographics we were in contact with because he said he didn't want to panic people. And when I read ancient ancestral narrative, there are a few regions of space that keep getting named. So we have the Pleiades, we have Serious, we have Orion. So
that's at least three regions of space named. And from those different regions there may be different factions coming from those areas. So I think now in the modern day, I think there are a great many et demographics interested in planet Earth and projects humanity, even more perhaps than when our ancestors left us these ancient stories.
Did you find references to ancient technology in the Bible?
Oh? Absolutely, And again this comes partly from going to root meanings of words. So caved, which we translate as glory, means a big heavy thing. And when you look at what the big heavy thing does in the text, you realize it launches and lands and shakes the land when it does. So we have the word tube translated as goodness, but you look at how it behaves in the text, and it's really a word that means gear or equipment. Get into the Book of Ezekiel and you've got these items,
the Klempasole and the KLi Maschatao. One is a disease integrater and one is a destroyer. And they're powerful enough that six individuals can ethnically cleanse an entire district with them. You've got the urim and thummim, which are communications devices. So there are heaps of words that suggest ancient technology.
And one of the most interesting things you can do when you find those words is leave them untranslated and then just what's what they do in the text, and you'll see that they are doing technological things.
Paul Wallace's websites are linked up at coast tocoastam dot com. He's also got presence on YouTube that's available to you as well. Fascinating technology and how did you find How did you discover these things?
Well, it was initially an ultimate frisbee injury which knocked me out of action, mede eyes off work for a while.
And you're not kidding, are you.
I'm not kidding. So ultimate frisbee and Casey pople don't know is like a combination of frisbe and rugby football, let's say. And it can be rough. And so I injured myself while I was convalescing, and in my books I use that as a bit of a code for all the time the universe has gifted me for study, and I just followed the white rabbit of Bible translation,
going to root meanings of keywords. And it was as I did that that I began noticing the moral behavior of some of these entities, and then the technological behavior of some of these items. We don't really know what they are, but we know what they do. And it's really been Bible translation that's opened it all up for me.
It's a tremendous pom. It really is the work you've been doing. How many years you been at.
This now, well five years producing the Eden series, So that's escaping from Eden, the Scars of Eden, Echoes of Eden, and now the Eden Conspiracy. But it had been in my mind really since the time I was eleven years old, which is when my mom and dad introduced me to Eric Vondanakan. So for decades I knew there was something there I needed to get back to and pay some attention to. And when I actually did the work, the Bible translation work, I was blown away by how much
was in the Bible. And it was then I remembered that was actually Eric Vondanakin's way into the topic in the person years ago.
And not a lot of it is interpretation, A lot of it is just right there under your nose.
That's exactly right. That's why I say it's an interesting exercise not to translate these words, so there's no argument about translation. Just look at what they do, look at what the items do, look at what the characters do, and it becomes clear very quickly when you do that that you are looking at stories of colonization and advanced technology.
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