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Hey everyone, it's Captain Ron and each week on Beyond Contact, we'll explore the latest news in upology, discuss some of the classic cases, and bring you the latest information from the newest cases as we talk with the top experts.
Welcome to Beyond Contact. I'm Captain Ron, and today we're going to be speaking with Jason Quitt. Jason's been studying various modalities and spiritual practices from teachers from around the world. From his auto body experiences, Jason has received information on
numerous energetic systems of healing and spiritual development. He has had various contacts from a wide variety of beings which will be getting into today, and he has continued his journey into the ancient systems of mysticism, metaphysics, wellness and shamanism to this day. Most importantly, he is genuinely a super super nice guy, probably because he's Canadian. Hey, Boddy, good seeing you, Jason, how are you.
I'm good, good to see you too, and happy to be here finally and having this conversation with.
You in snow filled Canada right now.
Huh it's cold, absolutely yeah.
So Jason, you know your work is in a vast range of areas, like I just mentioned on the intro there, from spirituality to mysticism, metaphysics. But you know this show we try to focus on UFOs and alien and I know that you've looked into these phenomenon as well, because you and I have discussed them in the past. So if there was this catastrophe and a world leader gets stuck on an elevator with Jason Quitt knowing nothing about this subject, and he asked you, so, what's behind the
UFO phenomenon? What would you tell him?
I would say that we need to figure out what the UFO phenomenon is and put it into different categories. And I think this is where people get tripped up in this community, is that there's so much going on in this phenomenon and it all kind of gets pushed all together in this one big ball of this is
what the UFO phenomenon is. After many, many years of experiences and you know, hearing and studying all these different sightings anything from experiencers to government whistleblowers and things like this, I found that we need to kind of like place things in certain categories. You know, going back many years, there's always been this kind of conflict between experiencers and the nuts and bolts technological things of you know, what we see in the sky, is it a metallic ship?
Is it?
You know? What is this technology? So what I would say to people is that we have to kind of look at each event as their own unique thing, and then we can put it into their categories or into their filing cabinet. You know, I've had experiences typical experiences where you know, you could observe something physically in the air, and I've been a witness to these events with people around me up in Canada, here, we get a lot
of these sightings. In fact, one of the two best sightings I've ever had were just right by my house here. And I live by a lake. It's called Lake Simcoe out in Ontario. Before I even moved out here, I went to a festival. There was a concert out here on the lake and it was late at night, and you know, everybody was done and the concert was over, and the roadies, you know, they're putting the equipment away and we're still out by the lake and over the
lake this it looked like this gigantic plasma ship. It was deep orange red, like this glowing big orb moving slowly over the water. And you know, I'm just my girlfriend at the time, which was now my wife. She went to use the washroom. So I'm standing by the stage and I'm watching this thing go over the water and it just fades out. It's like a you know when you have like a dimmer switch on your lighting system. It just dimmed out and then gone like it just
completely disappeared in front of our eyes. I remember the one of the roadies was just near me and he looked right at me and he's like, did we just see a UFO? And I'm like, yeah, I'm pretty sure we just saw something like a UFO, because that was probably the coolest UFO I've ever seen, like this big glowing orb and it just like just disappeared. And my thought at the time was like, if it was close enough and I had like a stone in my hand and I threw the stone, it would just go right
through this thing. So you know, what is that phenomenon? And then later when my wife and I we moved up here, so this is many years after that incident.
You know, we're driving back home from a friends around Christmas time, and so it's all snowy, it's late at night, there's really no one on the road, and on the left side of the driving side of the car, over the forest, we see this craft that could only be described as the classic what was it called the Triangle and the teeth three b oh sure, yeah, you know, And it was completely silent, It was hovering, It was moving very very slowly. It had the three lights and
the light in the center. I believe the lights around it were white, so three white lights and a red light in the middle, and it hovered over the forest and me and my wife just were at the stop and we're looking at this thing and we just can't believe that this is what we're looking I'm like, okay, we're going to follow it. So we started to follow it down the road.
The last thing that I would do.
And by the way, we were following it and it kind of curved around the city and we just kind of we lost it. But it was like wow. In my thought at that time is you know, this is a technology. Like it literally looked like a ship, you know, made with nuts and bolts. This is a real thing. If I threw a stone at it, it would hit it, it would bounce off. So in that category, I didn't
think that it was like an alien or UFO. My only thought was this is some type of man made technology, some type of military craft, or something that we don't know about, because it was so physical, it was so in front of you, and it had technology that we don't know yet. And so if someone said to me, that's an alien, I would say, well, I wouldn't go that far. This looks definitely like a man made thing. That's how close it was for me to see it.
You know, everybody will say, well, why didn't you take a picture, Well, I was driving my car, you know, and it was it was late, and it was only for a very short time that we were able to see this. And the funny thing is I did take pictures of the orb one over the lake. Such a weird thing because once I went back to the picture, it just looked like a little red speck in my phone pictures, like a black night sky with like a red speck. There's nothing that would say that this is
a UFO. It could be absolutely anything, you know. So it's very frustrating. And I'm a photographer, like I love photography, I love videos, so I know that if I point this camera up, it's not going to shoot anything. So there is there is a frustration to this. And you know now that I'm reminiscing, there was a time we went to go visit friends out at the cottage by another story by the lake, and it's late at night
and we're all sitting at the dock. Most of these people aren't into UFOs whatsoever, right, And we're sitting on this dock and there's a star in the sky. You know, there's no clouds at all. There's a star in the sky that was so bright that it basically bathed all of us in this blue light, and it was so amazing, Like even my friends would say, Wow, this is a really bright star, and we're like, yeah, this is a
really bright sky. It looked like a spotlight was on us on this dock by the lake, and we're sitting and just talking. We're we don't even really tune into this is something other than a star. And then it's just turned off, like just someone just flipped the switch, and then there's no more and there's no clouds in the sky, and we kind of all look at each
other kind of dumbfoundly, like what just happened? Like this beautiful light was with us for it seemed like at least ten minutes, and then suddenly it's not there in the sky. Very very strange. So for me, there is this UFO phenomenon, undoubtedly, and you know, we've experienced it multiple times on a level that we can't explain any of it. So this is why we have this intrigue
in phenomena, because the phenomenon is happening. It's happening to individuals, and it's happening to groups of individuals like you know, being out with your friends and seeing these things. But how I got connected to you, how I got connected to this community is a whole other kin of worms. It's a whole other story. I would say about around two thousand and two, so we're going back over twenty years now. I started to have these experiences, these spiritual experiences,
out of body experiences. From the perspective that I was in at that time, this was spiritual. It had nothing to do with UFOs, it had nothing to do with aliens. And I was having these kind of shamanic experiences of journeying out of the body, going into different timelines, remembering past lives. So for me, it was a very shamanic
type experience. And I started to have sleep paralysis, and that's what really got me out of my body was sleep paralysis, which many people experience being or waking up in the middle of the night having their body frozen,
and it's a quite terrible flying experience. Basically, you wake up in the middle of the night, completely frozen, paralyzed, you cannot move, You may hear very strange sounds, like mechanical sounds, you may see lights, and you're basically screaming in your mind to wake up, move a finger, move an arm, get out of whatever this is. This is it doesn't feel good. And you know, one night, I
just couldn't take that experience anymore. And I was trying to wake myself up, and I'm shaking violently in my body to you know, wake up, wake up.
Wake up.
And I shook so hard, popped myself out of my body and it was the first out of body experience through the sleep paralysis.
We're going to need to take a quick break right here, Jason. I'm going to come back with asked Jason, what else that could have been? You're listening to Beyond Contact right here on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network. We are back on Beyond Contact. We're talking
to Jason Quick and he's had these out of body experiences. Hey, Jason, you know, oftentimes sleep paralysis you were referring to is associated with alien abduction phenomenon, and oftentimes people that don't believe in such a thing think that maybe what's happening to these people who claim to have had an alien experience? How do you make that distinction that this wasn't just
sleep paralysis and something going on? How do you know that you popped yourself out of reality, and how do you know that that's what happened here?
Well, it wasn't the first time. So I first popped out and as I wrote, to my ceiling, which many people describe in near death experiences. So I found myself on my ceiling looking down at my body in the bed, which was quite a terrifying experience. It's also quite a sobering experience. And I call this the cosmic slap. It's like an undeniable feeling that you know immediately that you are more than a physical body. Did I just kill myself? A dead?
Other words, you feel like you have a soul or a consciousness or something bigger than your just your physical avatar, if you will. Is that correct?
Correct? It's a moment of realization of separation. You are in a body, you can call it the spirit body or astral body, whatever that conscious body is. You are that body in that instant, and you're experiencing that body, which is not your physical body, and you're looking down and experiencing being outside your physical body, and you literally see your fas coal body in the bed.
This is what we also hear from near death experiencers. Oftentimes they're on the surgery table, they rise above their body, they see the surgeon doing something to them, right, same sort of thing exactly.
So it's very fearful immediately because, like I say, it's like a slap of reality. You immediately understand.
The lap of reality. It feels like it's a slap of a whole new reality. Ye right, I mean it's like this whole different frame of reference for what your life is.
Yeah, so you gain a very different dimension, a dimensional experience of this reality. When you were talking about alien experiences, I understand that feeling because when I was put in these sleep paralysis experiences, I felt like I wasn't alone. I can feel something walking around the room with me.
At some times, I can feel something sitting on the bed and it's a physical feeling, like you can feel somebody walking in the room, and when they sit on the bed, you feel the impression of the mattress, like something is there with you. We're talking two thousand and two here, So there is no YouTube to watch videos of people, you know, I actually went to the library to try to find some books. At that moment in time, you go to what's culturally acceptable, like what's in pop culture,
which is alien abduction or demon possession. There's really like no other two avenues of what's going on in your bedroom in the middle of the night. It's either alien abduction or demons. You know. I say this a lot, but I became very religious, very quickly. I started to pray to any god that would help the situation. You become very very religious because you're afraid you don't know
what's happening, and there's clearly something happening. So I completely understand where someone would go into those avenues of alien abduction or demon possession or things of that nature. But what scared me the most so I'm above the bed, I'm looking at myself on the bed else like, I was straight as a board on my back, hands by my side, and my eyes were wide open. So it was a freaky looking Jason on that bed and awake,
consciously awake, out of my body, freaking out. I then immediately realized I wasn't alone in this room, And as I got brave enough, I looked at the foot of my bed and there was a very tall being standing at the foot of my bed, and it just looked like a very tall shadow, like a cloaked being, but it had form, like it wasn't like a shadow you can see through. It was a form. It's exactly what we see as like say, like the Grim Reaper, but without the sickle. So it's just this big shadow, this
big cloaked being. And you know that scared me so much. I got so scared because you think, like, Okay, I just died out of my body. See myself in bed, there's this grim Reaper looking thing standing at the foot of my bed. I'm clearly dead.
How do you not immediately pop out of sleep paralysis and head for the men's room, because that's what I would Probably.
You're kind of confused and amazed. There is an amazement part about this, you know. And you hear this a lot with experiencers. They all say the same thing. It feels more real than real life. Wow, you know. So that's why I say it's a dose of reality. It's this cosmic slap where it's like, you know, what you're experiencing is real. In fact, it feels more real than what you're experiencing in life. So I got so scared. I got sucked back into my body and I woke up.
Heart is pounding out of my chest obviously, and I just could not believe what I just experienced. Now, after that experience, I'd never had sleep paralysis again in that way. And when I mean that way, I didn't have control over my sleep paralysis. It would just come in a wave and I'd be stuck in it. Now because it was such an incredible experience, even though it was terrifying, there was something inside of me that's said, I need to do everything that's possible to do this again.
So such a profound experience. This is how you separated from it was a dream where it was something else because it was so overwhelming. You're saying that you believe at your core that it's true.
Yes, absolutely so, because it was so life shatteringly amazing in the sense that this was something that is definitely in my mind. It was never a dream. It was not a hallucination. This was an act of experience, and it's an active experience that people have had throughout human history. You know, it doesn't matter what you believe, what culture you're from, or what time of history you're from, people have had this. So for me, it's a human experience.
You know, every like I say, everybody is going to experience this in their life.
Well, there's no doubt that this has been either through they name it different things, though it's oftentimes near death experiences throughout history people claim to have had that sounds very similar to what you experienced. That's the whole notion of the soul, that there's a higher part of us that's just occupying this avatar. So all of that ties into you know, what we've heard throughout human history exactly.
And so I went the shamanic path. I went into the healing world, and I sought out different teachers and shawmans to try to help me explain this new world and help me navigate it. All I wanted to do was go back. So I started to do meditations and cheegong and all these things, and I found that it's almost like once you open the door, the door has opened.
Is it like what we're saying, it was more real than reality. It felt so good to you that you want to do it again.
Yeah, it's kind of like this curiosity, this overwhelming curiosity of the phenomenon or the experience that you just got a taste of something.
Did you want to prove to yourself that it did in fact happen, or were you already convinced of that.
No, there was no doubt in my mind that it was real.
Okay.
The only thing in my mind was how do I go back? And back then, you know, I was still at my mother's house. I didn't have a girlfriend. You know, I had lots of time to figure stuff out. Now it's more difficult when you have a family and you have things you have to do. But back then, all that was on my mind was trying to get back there. And so I saw meditation, sought spiritual teachers, and I found that I could put myself back into the sleep
Proalyss estate through meditation. When I say meditation, all it means is going to sleep at night, but keeping my mind active and aware. It's almost like your mind is awake. And then you're meditating and you're being aware of the body process of shutting down. That's the only way I can explain it. You're becoming aware of the sleep process of your body shutting down, and then there's this window where you feel your body kind of goes to sleep.
It's almost like you get this kind of warming, numbing sensation and it's like once you kind of feel this. Then it's almost like you're switching from one world to the other world, and in that transition you can have this pop out experience where you can have this astral travel or just kind of pop out of this dimension the three D reality.
This sounds awesome. I hate to say it reminds me of people's giving their accounts of believe they or not doing Heroin, where they said that it was so much better than their reality that they wanted to do it again. Not advocating for Heroin, just saying that I've heard those accounts before. When we come back, we're going to talk to Jason more about this experience and what he thinks these beings could be and where they might be coming from.
You're listening to Beyond Contact on the iHeartRadio at Coast to Coast am Paranormal podcast Network. We are back on Beyond Contact talking to Jason Quit. Jason, go ahead, pick it up. Where you're talking about your experience heading into nighttime, you're going to go to sleep. What happens?
Yeah, So basically, there is a we call it the space in between, and it's the space in between waking and dreaming and as you kind of go into that awareness. It's like an altered state. You can say you're falling asleep and you're witnessing your body going to sleep through meditation,
staying aware of all the feelings, everything that's happening. And then once your body kind of feels this kind of warmth and this vibration going through it, it's almost like you are in this window of popping out of time and space. And there's many ways of doing it with astral travel. There's a method called the rollout inside your body kind of roll out or push yourself out, but it's not really a push. It's more like a will.
You will yourself out. And the only way I could describe it is when you drop out of this world or when you drop out of this dimension, you have another body within your body. So your body becomes like your sarcophagus. It's like a tomb. And so as that body goes to sleep, suddenly this other body inside of you wakes up. We can call it the astral body, the spiritual body, whatever name we choose, but this body could move. You find yourself in another body inside your body,
and you can actually move around. So this is where the rollout method comes in handy because you're in the body, You've already dropped into this other body, and then you push yourself out or roll out through your back. Then you're out and you're in the astral world or spiritual world. I don't even know what kind of definition to give it, but people understand when I say astral world. For me, it's like another dimension because it's not really your bedroom.
So it's like I pop out and I see my bedroom. But if you stay there long enough, things are going to get distorted. I don't understand.
Yeah, you're like in another plane another I mean I follow you believe it or not, I know what you're saying. I mean this is it's got to be an incredible experience.
Yes, And that's why I kept trying to navigate it. I kept trying to figure it out. It's like, you know, you're becoming an explorer to this new world that you've just woken up to, and it's not like you leave your body and you're enlightened. You have no clue what's going on. You have no clue where you are, and the only way you're going to know is by keep going further and further.
Jason, I was wondering it sounds also it's very reminiscent of ayahuasca. Actually, how people say that they transition to this other place, and many of us are afraid to even make that journey. I'm surprised that you weren't more apprehensive about even trying to dare go to this space because it sounds like a scary reality.
Almost, yes, and you learn very fast that it is a scary reality. And you know, I laugh today, but it caused years of problems, you know, I'm talking about it now twenty years after sure, right, and I still have these experiences, but it comes from a completely different place of understanding. As I was going through it, I always caution people because when you leave your body, there are other things that inhabit that space that are not nice, all right, So you have to kind of learn how
to fight. And I'm not saying this lightly, like you literally have to understand that there are things there that want to get at you, all right. And I think this is kind of like the whole philosophy of where like demon possession comes from, or entities or things of this nature. It's almost like a neo waking up in the matrix. I popped out and I started to explore and because of that, now I'm getting visitation by entities.
So now I become aware that this world is inhabited by something else, and it's many something else's it's not just one thing. And there is no names for these things that I can give you. I don't know. But there was a time when I first started doing this where these things would come in the middle of the night and try to pull me out of my body. Like it's very scary. You'll feel something come into the room and then grab you, but they're not grabbing your
physical body. It's like they're reaching into your body and trying to pull you out of it.
You go to this other plane of existence, let's call it, because I don't know how to possibly describe this, and it's almost like the beings that you've interacted with in that existence now are coming over to our reality trying to get you to come back to join them again.
Right, yes, But for me, you know, it feels like they were trying to pull me or push me out of my body, which is not a good feeling. So I had to kind of like fight like hell to kind of stop this from occurring. And a lot of people experience things like this and it's very scary, very traumatizing, and this is why people turn to God very quickly, because it's like, whatever this was, I'm having none of it. You know.
It's one thing if Jason decides, Hey, I want to go to this world, I'm going to purposely, consciously try to experience this. It's another for them coming to get you. That's freaking me out all over here.
Yes, because it was happening so often, I started to realize that my fear of this happening actually made the situation a lot worse. It's almost like the more I feared it, the easier it was for them to connect with me. Like, I'll tell you a really crazy experience. I haven't shared this in a very very long time. There was one point where I was ripped out of my body by one of these things and it came into the form, I swear to you, it looked exactly
like No Seratu from the old old movies. So it was like from like the nineteen twenties No Serrat, the ball big head with the big pointy ears that the things, huge thing like that. Yeah, and this thing basically grabbed me by the throat, ripped me out of my body, put me up against the wall, and came right to my face like snarling at me. And at that point, you know, I can't swear, obviously, but I just didn't give anymore. I was just done with this whole thing.
I was done being scared. And when you're done being scared, something else happens to you, or you just don't care.
How do you be done being scared? I would be I'd be crying in that thing's face. How do you You're saying you were so scared your pastor.
Well, the thing is, it was happening so often that it became an annoyance instead of scary. Wow, you know, it's just like you're here again, Like really, I don't want to I want to go to sleep. I don't want to deal with any of this stuff again. So it became not scary. It became an annoyance. Obviously, the first times you are very scared, but after dealing with
it for a long time, it loses that value. So this is what I did, and I like, hand to gut, it's snarling in my face, and I'm like, oh, you're so pretty, You're beautiful, and I'm grabbing its ears, and I'm like massaging it in and giving like kissy faces to it, and poof, it's gone, you know, just poof, it's gone. And I just realized that it's the power that I'm giving it that makes it strong. That's the
only way I could describe it. It's like this world, for some reason, you have a power in it, and the only way to take that power from you is keep you very scared. You know, once you're not scared, these things do not come near you. And if they do come near you, you just know that there's nothing they can do to you. The situation's over. It took a long time to realize this, you know. And it just took me giving up basically saying like you can't really hurt me or scare me anymore.
Like I don't care they're not hurting you, because you'll eventually wake up again back in three D world and it's okay. So you start to trust it a little bit that you're not able to hurt me. You know. It's funny how this is through a lot of different folklore throughout history, and even in horror movies. Oftentimes your fear gives the strength to the monster, you know what I mean.
It's exactly like that. Once you let go of these things, things change and you start to get a completely different perspective. So there's many times entities would come to me in the middle of the night and they just look like big shadows, and when they come into the room, it feels like you're suffocating. It's like it rolls up on your chest and you can't breathe. It's like there's a weight to whatever this thing is, and sometimes you fight it,
but sometimes things change. So there there's opportunities where this thing would come in and instead of being scared, I embrace it. Let's say it jumps up on your body and it's suffocating you. Instead of trying to like struggle and push it off, I wrap my arms around it and just, you know, welcome, and this thing just kind of transforms. It's almost like a piece of you is returned.
It's the weirdest thing. And from a shamanic perspective, it's like when you go through trauma in life, a piece of you gets broken off, and that piece of you grows in the astral world and it could become a monster because it's a damaged piece of you. And then it tries to come back to you and you say, no, no, no, you're scary. I don't want this trauma. I don't want this piece of myself returning. And then suddenly you say,
you know what, I realized. This is a piece of myself and it's hurt and it's damaged, and this is why it's coming in this distorted form. And then you realize that, and then it joins back with you and suddenly you're like, it's almost like you've gained this part of yourself that you've been missing for so long. It's a beautiful experience.
It's incredible, Jason, it really is. We're going to take another quick break. We're gonna come back. We're going to talk more to Jason about these incredible experiences he's had. You're listening to Beyond Contact on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network. We are back in one of the fastest Beyond Contact episodes I can recall, because Jason is talking about this fascinating experience he has
with these beings. Jason, why don't you go ahead and pick it up and just keep going with what you're telling us?
Sure, so we are taught to kind of see things in a certain way, and I'm telling you that things are very different and it takes time to understand and learn and navigate these worlds, you know. And we were just talking about entities. There was this one time, this big entity came in the middle of the night, very suffocating, very dark. First, in my mind, I went right into
that kind of shamanic mode of healer. It's like I just knew that whatever this thing was, that he needed healing, and so I was just in my mind consciously sending it healing and love. It took a couple of minutes, but suddenly this entity just kind of proof went away. And then I saw like it was a friend of mine. It was a very close friend of mine, and they were on the floor crying, and I realized that this was a broken or a traumatized piece of them that
was coming to me for assistance. You know, most people when they see these things or encounter these things, it's automatic fear, it's automatic getaway, automatic call the higher powers to deal with this. And for me, it's this kind of shamanic work that these things are aspects of ourselves or family, our friends. You can call it thought, projections, emotions,
spiritual pieces that have been broken that need mending. And this is a very ancient practice, which I think is true shamanism, to kind of heal that aspect in a way where it can go back and integrate within that person. But the way that I got into the UFO field, okay, because you know, these stories are all great, there's a
lot of teachings in these stories and these experiences. But the way that I got into the UFO community and why I started talking with you, is because as I was having these out of body experiences, one they reminded me step by step of contact experiences. And in the beginning when I started to learn about this world, I was getting visited by many beings that would be described in the UFO community. The first beings that I came to,
they kind of look like the predator effect. It's almost like you see the form but yes, yeah, so you see like the outline of them, and they come into the room and you just see this kind of like kind of shimmering glow, but you see through them, and they weren't shadows. They were this kind of other thing. And the predator effect is exactly what it looked like.
And these beings would basically take me into different timelines, so I'd be like timeline jumping with them, and they were showing me like the most god awful things you could ever think of. So I obviously didn't like those experiences.
And then after there's these other beings that would come to see me which were completely bizarre, and I started to be visited by things that are like praying mantises, these giant insectoid things, and some of them were so large where I would experience them coming into the room.
They'd have to kind of like literally bend their head under the door to kind of enter the bedroom to come and see me, and they would speak to me in their language, which is like clicking and chirping, and I'd hear all this clicking and chirping in my head. They have no boundaries, these things. They're not like humans, so they would kind of stick their face like right in front of your face, and their heads are much bigger than yours, so they'd be looking at you and
you hear this clicking and stuff. You can't even describe it in your head.
How are you not screaming in terror from such a thing.
I don't know. I don't know. There's one time I tried to hit it with a pillow, but you know, you're out of your body. It's not the same, you know. The only thing I would do is I would say, like in my mind, like kind of telepathically, I'd be like, I can't understand you. I don't know what you're saying to me, like speak English, Like I kept saying, speak in English. I don't understand these clicks and these noises that you're sending to me. I don't understand it. It
almost looks like their faces become kind of shocked. They kind of like pull back their head and look at you like now I'm speaking to them, like it didn't make any sense to them, and then they would just turn around and walk out. So these are like very strange experiences, Jason.
They are incredible experiences, and it reminds me of how, you know, none of us know how to define any of this, because this is I always say that we're dealing with an unknown here. So some people would call this an alien, some people would call this, you know, a demon. As you mentioned earlier, do you have a guess as to what these beings could be?
I've had beings actually tell me where they come from. And it's very interesting because you know how we of the show and saying like, okay, you have an aftral body, for example, and that actual body disconnects from the physical world and it can travel. Well, you know, if there's intelligent life and other planets or even you know, any physical forms, what is stopping them from having the same experiences as us. You know, I've had a being come to me and it's a would be a very menacing,
scary being to a lot of people. But let's say, you know, I had an experience with a reptilian. We hear lots about these type of beings, but this being came to me and I asked, you know where you from? You know where are you're coming from? And they said they're coming from some place near the Sagittarius constellation. And the way that it was explained to me is like, you know, I'm leaving my body. I can go visit them in their world. They can leave their body, they can come visit us here.
Okay, But then they're techinitely an alien because they're saying they're on another planet in our known universe. They're telling you, right, we're from right over there. So it's not an inter dimensional thing according to this account anyway, Right, they are in our physical universe. They're just traveling.
They're not traveling. Yes, they're traveling consciously. They're using their astral body, just as the way they.
Sound like they would have a physical body on that planet in our known universe. Absolutely interesting take on this whole thing.
Absolutely, you know, I'm going we don't really need spaceships to we need spaceships to travel physically, but in the grander scheme of the universe, there's this other way of traveling to visit other worlds and visit other beings.
And that's I say, I want some physics and that whole thing of you know, the interconnectedness of all these atoms and things. It's incredible.
There was this one experience where and it was an extremely beautiful experience. You know, I woke up one night and there was this this being I call it being and not an entity, it's a being and it was just sitting in the bedroom with me. It was beautiful. It looked like kind of like a humanish gray alien. That's all I can say. It wasn't like a gray alien.
It had gray alien features, but it was more human than not, and it was transparent like a spirit, and it had like a glowing golden aura and silver aura around it, like it was just beautiful, and it just kind of like spent time in the room with me and just kind of I just felt this incredible love from it. And I was trying to figure out, you know, what was going on and why this was attracted to me.
And it was a bracelet I was wearing, and I was wearing this copper and zinc bracelet and it said that that copper and zinc frequency is very similar to their frequency and that's how they can connect with me. So it was like an anchor and time and space that when I was wearing it, they can come and visit.
Oh MyD me, Jason. I was just taking off all of my jewelry, my bracelets, and anything even close to those two materials. I'm putting those in my trash and I'll be taking them out immediately. Fell on the show anyway.
Go ahead, Uh, it's all good. But That's what I'm trying to say, is that we have these kind of alien encounters. And yes, I've had I've had one gray experience, which I'm still kicking myself to this day, like I'm so mad at myself because when I was in Japan when this happened, and you know, I wake up in the outer body state, and because of my shamanic teachings, for me, it's I know I'm in this altered state.
I know that I'm leaving my body. So when you leave the body, suddenly you're in this new world and there's right there in front of you, you know, and if you've never experienced this, you would literally feel like you are physically feeling this. But I know I'm in that altered state experiencing this. So I feel something enter
the room. I pop out and there's this gray alien which is the only way I could describe it because it's exactly what it looked like in the movies, and just standing at the edge of my bed, and immediately once it saw that I was looking at it, I got this telepathic message. It said, I am a short old man, That's what it said to me. And I just said right back to.
Have to go.
No, you're not, You're a gray alien, and it just kind of looked at me and again just turned and walked out of the room and that was the end of the experience.
You could have said, I'm a tall young man.
That's right, I could listen.
I can do three more hours with you. I really appreciate you genuinely sharing all of this with us. It felt very real to me and very very genuine, and I really really appreciate that. I'm sure everyone listening does as well. You can find Jason at the crystalsun dot com. Thanks for listening to Beyond Contact. We'll be back next week with an all new episode. You can follow me Captain Ron on Twitter and Instagram at CID Underscore Captain Ron.
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