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Ready to be amazed by the wizard of Weird. This is Strange Things j Warren. I am Joshua Pee Warren, and each week on this show, I'll be bringing you brand new mind blowing content, news, exercises, and weird experiments you can do it home, and a lot more. On this edition of the show, Weird Movies to Watch near Christmas Now. Yes, this is a podcast that means you can listen to it any time of the year. But here's the reality. I am recording right now in the
holiday season. Christmas is coming up soon, and you know, sometimes I just got to enjoy myself and talk about what's on my mind, and I figured that if you are like me, then as the Holidays are approaching, you have maybe a list of movies that you like to watch, perhaps with your family and friends, to help get you in the mood. And of course, traditionally here in the US, we have those films that just about everybody would consider a Christmas film. You know, obviously we have various versions
of a Christmas Carol. You have movies like Home Alone or one of my favorites, Jingle All the Way. Maybe you watch shows like How the Grinch Stole Christmas. I mean, there's this list of very typical Christmas kind of stuff that you just see over and over every year. It's a staple. But they don't call me the Wizard of
Weird for nothing. And that's because in addition to those things, I actually have some movies that I like to watch around this time of year that are not necessarily things that you would think of immediately when you think of Christmas. And yet most of these actually are Christmas movies that you just probably didn't realize for Christmas movies or forgot
they were not necessarily you'll see what I mean. But let me just jump into it and tell you a little bit about some of these movies that I like to watch that you might not think of as a typical Christmas movie. The one that I want to start with, I want to feature one of my favorite movies, Grimlins. Yes, the great movie Grimlins that came out in nineteen eighty four.
And you know what, it's actually all based around Christmas because you know, the main character, well, let me put this way, the father in the movie, he's looking for a Christmas present for his son and he finds this little creature called a Magua, later named Gizmo, and Gizmo is the Christmas present, And so the whole movie has this Christian Christmas imagery in it. But I think a lot of people they don't necessarily think of it as
a Christmas movie for two reasons. Number one, because the vision, the idea, the appearance of the Grimlins is just so unnerving and overpowering that it's hard to think of that with the warm, fuzzy Christmas vibe. But also, and this is particularly weird, the movie came out in June of nineteen eighty four. I always think that's odd when these movies that have a strong seasonal component come out at
a time which is totally out of place. I mean, that'd be like releasing some well, you know, like I see a lot of scary movies that are about Halloween that are released far away from October. But anyway, Grimlins, of course, this fantasy comedy horror film directed by Joe Dante, was actually written by Chris Columbus. And Chris Columbus is certainly a very famous man. He has played a role in either writing, producing, or directing a lot of famous movies.
I mean he was involved with let's see, I think he wrote Goonies, is that right? Yeah, Goonies. He wrote that. This guy, I mean, Chris Columbus. He let's see, we're talking Home Alone Adventures in Babysitting Harry Potter movies. So yeah, Chris Columbus wrote Grimlins. And I was talking on a podcast earlier this year about what grimlins even are to begin with, and because they do mention this in the movie.
Historically speaking, a grimlin is a mischievous fictional creature invented at the beginning of the twentieth century to originally explain malfunctions and aircraft, and later in other machinery processes and their operators. Depictions vary widely. Stories about them, references to them as the causes of inexplicable technical or even mental problems, and all that were especially popular during and after World War II. So there is a foundation there and culture
for the Rimlins. But here's one thing that I found especially interesting, because I did not realize this until earlier in the year. I mentioned that the movie Grimlins, it starts out with the father figure in the movie. He's an inventor and he is walking at night through Chinatown and he's basically he's kind of narrating the story a
little bit. And it's been a while since I've watched the movie, actually, but anyway, so he he's a big, bold man with a powerful voice, and he comes across extremely warmly on film, and he plays an extremely believable father figure. And then at the end of the movie, I mean, his voice comes back in as the narrator and he kind of wraps everything up. And I started wondering, well, you know, why haven't I seen more of that guy?
And I started looking into him and that took me down this I don't know, kind of a rabbit hole that you might find interesting as well. The guy who played the father. I think his name was something like Ran Peltzer. In Grimlins was named Hoyt Axton, big guy
and with a booming voice. And so I looked up hoy Axton, and I was surprised by what I found because he played roles in like smaller character roles in a lot of different movies, Like he was the father in a couple of scenes at the beginning of the classic movie The Black Stallion. But I wondered whether he didn't have more prominence in the film world. And it turns out that he was, more than anything interested in
songwriting and singing. His mother was named may Buren Axton, and she was a songwriter who co wrote the song Heartbreak Hotel, which became a major hit for Elvis Presley. And so Hoyit Axton, the man who was the father in Grimlins, for a large part of his life he was following in his mother's footsteps. In fact, he started writing songs. Some of his own songs were also later recorded by Elvis Presley. And if you are wondering if you've ever heard any of Hoit Axton songs, get a
load of this. Yes. The man who played the father and Grimlins wrote the song Joy to the World, which you might know that better as Jeremiah was a Bullfrog was a good friend of mine. Remember that one, Joy to the World, All the boys and girls Now. He wrote that song, which was recorded by Three Dog Night became a big hit for them. He also wrote the song never been to Spain.
Well, I've never been to Spain, but I kind of like the music. Say, the ladies are insane there and they sure know how to use it.
This guy who was doing this acting was also a there, traveling the country constantly performing an amazing talent. And it's just it's funny because you know, I watched Griblins when it came out in the movie theater in nineteen eighty four, and it took me until till this year, all these years later, to realize that, you know, who this guy was, did such a great job, and what an interesting life he had. As a matter of fact, he was. He had a very active personal life. He was married four times.
His first three marriages ended in divorce. He had five children. He struggled with cocaine addiction and talked about some of that in his in his work, in his songs and let's see here he was born in nineteen thirty eight in Oklahoma. As a matter of fact, there's a line in that song never been to Spain where he says, I've never been to Heaven, but I've been to oklahom Well, anyway,
in nineteen ninety five, he had a stroke. He never fully recovered, had to use a wheelchair, and he died age sixty one at his home in Victor, Montana, after suffering two heart attacks in two weeks. It's just interesting trivia about the guy who was the Dad and grim Ones. But when we come back, Okay, let's move on to some other movies that you might not think of as a Christmas movie, but I kind of do. How about Stanley Kubrick? Can you guess which one it is? Of course,
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certainly one of my favorites, was Stanley Kubrick. He died in nineteen ninety nine at age seventy, And of course he is famous for so many classic films a two thousand and one of Space Odyssey. You know everybody knows. Drink your favorite juice and watch that movie. It'll transport you to another place. People are still trying to interpret the meanings in that movie. A clockwork Orange Barry Lindon. If you've never seen that, you got to watch it
Full Metal Jacket. But he also he directed The Shining, And I'll just say for a moment that The Shining is one of those movies that fits into this particularly odd category for me because The Shining almost feels like that it should be a Christmas movie, but it's not. And so it's I guess, you know, just because it's wintertime.
I'm you're there in this wooded area there in the mountains, and there's there's a blizzard, and there's snow on the ground, and there's all the wintry elements are there, but just not Christmas. But that's also a good movie to watch. They capture something about that Christmas vibe. I'm going to talk a little bit more about that phenomenon in a minute, but also before I tell you about the particular movie that is a Christmas movie that I associate with Stanley Kubrick.
Let me just take this opportunity to mention that a lot of people believe that Stanley Kubrick, being such a talented filmmaker ahead of his time, was involved with faking footage of the moon landing. And let me just address that because, as you may or may not know, one of my best friends was the late Jim Mars and I consider him to be the greatest historian of conspiracy theories. Ever.
He was the world's greatest conspiracy theorist. And you know what, he and I don't even know how many times he and I talked about the ideas regarding every conspiracy you can imagine. So I've heard all the arguments for and against the moon landing and what was that nineteen sixty nine, And what I can tell you is that, Okay, I believe that we landed on the Moon, and I believe that Neil Armstrong was the first human being to step
foot on the moon. However, I also know that after all of the time and energy and money that had been put into that project during the Cold War, if it failed, that would have been an enormous embarrassment at very least to the US government, and who knows just how far the repercussions would have gone, how bad they would have been at that time in history when people
actually had to pay consequences for screwing up. And so I have no doubt that they may have had a contingency plan where they hired some great filmmakers to come in and produce some footage that looked like that they had made it to the Moon that would be presented to the public just in case the mission failed. That seems plausible to me. I know that that would have
been a temporary bandage. I don't know how long that would have lasted, and so it would make perfect sense that you'd bring a guy like Stanley Kubrick in there to be a part of that project to see what could be done to a very least maximize the chances of capturing this footage on the Moon properly, while at the same time sort of simulating what it might look like. Nod wink wink. So I don't think that any of the Moon footage that we see in our historical context
is fake. I really don't, but I have no doubt that there is some footage out there that was fake that would have been used in an emergency situation. There is a video that pops up from time to time on places like YouTube that came out years ago, where there's a guy who looks kind of like Stanley Kubrick sitting there admitting all of this. That video is a hoax video. That is an actor. So don't send that to me. I've seen that a million times. That's never happened.
Stanley Kubrick never sat down on camera and talked about the moonhoak stuff. But you know, some of his relatives, and I won't name any names, have suggestionuggested that he was involved in some activity with the government that may have been related to shooting footage that looked like it was on the Moonscape that wasn't. So, you know, and I know there have been movies that have addressed this subject, but movies you can't trust what you see in a movie.
I'm just telling you the reality of what I know, which isn't much. I think that he may have been involved with some of that, but I don't I don't think that the footage of the moon landing was fake. The footage that we see maybe someday. You know, there are all these politicians that are always saying we're going to release everything. Yeah, well maybe someday before we die, we'll get to see some of the footage that come out that they were going to use. Is like, I
don't know, false footage. Begetting back to the point of this particular podcast. The last movie that Kubrick made, the movie that came out right before he died, is called Eyes Wide Shut, and it stars Tom Cruise Nicole Kidman, who were married at the time. It's an erotic, mystery,
psychological drama. And one thing that is interesting about this movie is that Kubrick ultimately taps into all these legends and stories and tales that you've heard your whole life about some super wealthy elite echelon in this world, this cabal of people who are They get together and in these sort of secret underground society meetings and festivals, and they engage in all forms of debauchery and maybe there are satanic elements involved, maybe there is some form of
can involved. I mean, we we've there's it's almost like a tulpa that exists, this idea that all of these powerful, wealthy people come together in secret and throw these big, twisted, dark parties and the last thing you want to do is dabble with that. And that is what happens in
this movie Eyes White Shut. And of course you could say that this is an example of Kubrick exploiting that tulpa, or you could say that he was using the movie as a way to express some of the things that he had come across by being involved with some of this sort of globalism, that you know, this idea that we're trying to create this big deception for the world. I don't know which it is, and he wants it
that way. And that's why Kubrick didn't like to talk a lot about the meaning behind his movies, because he realized that mystery was an important part of the storytelling process.
But the movie starts out with Tom Cruise and his wife dressing to go off to a big, elaborate Christmas party, and so the whole movie takes place throughout Christmas, which also is kind of ironic because what you're dealing with here is a scenario that's basically again it's kind of a satanic core of the movie has sort of a satanic core theme, and so it makes sense that it will be taking place at Christmas time, so that you have this contrast between all the joy and the jolly
Christmas elements in the background with the reality of the darkness in the middle. And I'm sure that Kubrick thought about all that stuff. So anyway, that is not one for the kiddies. By the way, that is definitely an R rated movie. I think there are some cuts out there that maybe even be on are rated. But eyes Wide Shut, if you're you know, if you're like me, that's one that you will have on your list of
weird movies to watch near Christmas. And you know how I said that, like, The Shining is not it's not a Christmas movie, but it just kind of feels kind of like it should be. It's one of those movies that maybe you would want to watch around Christmas time. Well, I don't always watch The Shining around Christmas time. It is certainly one of my favorite horror movies. But one movie that I do like to watch around Christmas time that also isn't a Christmas movie is the movie Misery.
And this is the nineteen ninety psychological heart thriller directed by Rob Reiner based on Stephen King's novel, and it's the story, of course, about the author. He finishes his book and the cabins by himself, and I guess he's in Colorado or something and he's driving through these snow slick mountain roads. His car goes off into a ravine and then this woman rescues him, and it's Kathy Bates
who ends up. She's a nurse, and she says, I'm going to take care of you until you heal, and she keeps him basically then imprisoned at her house, saying, just so happens, I'm your number one fan. And then she starts sort of forcing him to write for her, and when she's not happy with how the writing's turning out, she starts torturing him. And okay, I hear the music. It's time for a break. When we come back, I'm going to tell you about some more movies that I
like to watch around this time of year. But all the rest of them actually do have something to do directly with Halloween. I'm sorry, listen to me Christmas. I have too many themes in my head right now. They're all blending together around Christmas time. And then also I think I have a story I want to share with you if I have time about a new vampire discovery. This is real. I'm Joshua P. Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on the iHeart Radio and Coast to Coast
AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I'll be back after these important messages. Welcome back to Strange Things on the iHeart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Pods Network. I'm your host, Joshua P. Warren, And this is the show where the unusual becomes usual. Yeah, it's funny how a movie like Misery doesn't have any real Christmas imagery in it. But
it's in the it's in the mountains, it's snowy. I think there are some scenes with warm lighting, and it just seems like it should be a Christmas movie, but it's not. And so you can see when I talk about this theme, I'm not saying weird Christmas movies to watch. I'm saying weird movies to watch near Christmas. So it's I don't know how to explain that, but but I was thinking about this movie and how that at the end of the movie, as the credits are rolling, they
play Liberaci singing one of his most famous songs. I'll be seeing you and.
All the old familiar places to this hard of mine embraces all day through.
I'm doing a lot of singing on this podcast. Sorry about that. And I bring that up because, oh, a little over a week ago, Lauren, my wife, and I living here in Las Vegas, finally made it over to a place called the Liberacchi Garage. Maybe it's Liberaci's garage, but it is. It's not too far from the strip, and it's this giant warehouse where they have a lot of famous Hollywood cars, but they have a whole section devoted to the collection of Liberaci, because you know, he
would go all out with everything. At one point in his life, he was the highest paid entertainer in the world. And you know, Las Vegas was his home, a lot of properties around here, and he always had the fanciest rolls, royces, and he would have everything customized, have pianos put into cars, and like all that kind of stuff. And so you can go over there and for twenty bucks a person walk around and see all of his incredible vehicles. We took some pictures, so I'll have to see if I
can remember to put some on my Instagram page. The Instagram page for this show is josh excuse me, Joshua P. Warren Podcast, and Lauren takes care of putting images on there from time to time. But that was cool. They have all kinds of props and artifacts there related to Liberacci. Yeah, you can even go to Liberacci's house, his main mansion here and pay the owner, like a couple hundred bucks a person I can't remember for sure, and he'll take you around on a private tour. I planned to do
that at some point. Okay, back to the topic at hand though. Another film, Now this is a Christmas movie. Well, let me let me put it this way. It has a significant Christmas scene in it. The Dead Zone nineteen eighty three American science fiction thriller film directed by David Cronenberg, also based on a novel by Stephen King. And this is one of my favorites. I especially have always loved
the soundtrack. It's unforgettable and it's so you know. The Dead Zone is about this young man who gets in he's in love, he's about to get married, and he gets into this terrible car accident and he's in a coma for years and when he comes out of the a coma. His comes out of the coma, his lady has already married another man, which breaks his heart. He's also kind of physically crippled, and I mean he's just
talked about down of the dump. But somehow he has gained this incredible psychic power where he is able to touch things and see visions of the past and the future, and that the main star of the well, the star of that movie is Christopher Walkin. There's a part of the movie UH in which I think it's Christmas time and there's there's some serial killer in the town and they and so the cops, like the sheriff goes to him to or the chief of police or somebody to
see if he can help solve the crime. So that's the Christmas element there. But a couple of interesting things that this brings to mind, since I'm just kind of rambling about these movies. Number One, it was also Christopher Walkin who starred in the nineteen eighty nine movie Communion UH,
in which he was basically playing Whitley Strieber. And I heard wit Streeber on an interview a while back say that he felt that in the beginning the filmmakers were not taking that project, that movie con Union seriously enough, and he had to like stay on top of them and and help help rein them in to how seriously
he took this. You know, I I met I met him in part one one time, Whitley Streeber and I were working on a TV show together, and so I met him there, and uh, and I've heard lots of stories about him in general, and it's funny because you know, I've interviewed him also on some of my other shows
in the past. It's funny how like in the beginning he was just absolutely horrified by what these these beings were doing to him, and now all these years later, he says that he's just accepted it, and he kind of embraces them as almost like friends that he is in touch with on a daily basis. These aliens a very odd evolution of his relationship with these beings that he said at one time violated him so severely. So, yes,
the Dead Zone is a good one. And another thing about the Dead Zone, it brings up a very interesting question about predeterminism, freedom and predeterminism and fate and free will and all these things, because basically, the guy the Christopher Walkins character. He uses his psychic power to see that this politician is about to succeed, and he has to determine and this politician is gonna do evil things, and so he has to determine how he can prevent
that from happening. Should he prevent it from happening. It brings up a lot of complex philosophical conundrums and paradoxes as well. So the Dead Zone is definitely one that should be on anybody's list, but it's on my Christmas list. Next, another one of my favorite movies, The Mothman Prophecies, of course, based on the classic book by Jean Keel. This is a two thousand and two American supernatural horror mystery film directed by Mark Pellington, stars Richard Gere and Laura Lenny.
I talk a lot about this movie and the book. I find a lot of references for this in the subject matter that I cover on this podcast called Strange Things. And you know, the real tragedy behind this is that, you know, all these people around Point Pleasant, West Virginia in the nineteen sixties are seeing the Mothman flying around, as well as a plethora of other bizarre things. And it all seems to very ominously culminate on this up to this disaster that occurred. And this is true. I mean,
the root elements of this story are absolutely true. People were seeing all of this bizarre stuff around Point Pleasant and then at Christmas time on December fifteenth of nineteen sixty seven, all these people who had been out Christmas shopping and such were lined up on the Silver Bridge between West Virginia and Ohio, and the bridge collapsed. I believe it's still considered the largest bridge disaster in the
history of the United States. Forty Six people died, some were never found, and it was just it's just it's shocking to look back in retrospect and all the weird things that people were seeing there that led up to this horrific tragedy. It's one of the greatest and most terrible stories in all of human history, and it's also
incredibly thought provoking. But again, it's one of those things where it kind of figures that, like, there's this contrast between the joy of the holiday season and people going out and trying to have fun, and then it all clashing with this terrible darkness, and it ultimately end up with like Christmas Presents Floating down the Ohio River. The next movie I want to point out here Batman Returns,
just because I guess you know. I love Tim Burton's nineteen eighty nine Batman with of course Michael Keaton and Jack Nicholson. But the sequel that was done also by Tim Burton in nineteen ninety two was Batman Returns that had Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman and Danny DeVito as the Penguin. And I won't spend too much time on that because I thought that it wasn't that great of a movie, but it was just it was kind of a fun one to watch if he were into the nineteen eighty
nine Batman. And it is a Christmas movie, believed or not, the whole story of Batman Returns and a lot of people don't really remember that part takes place there at Christmas. That's also a movie where I like at the beginning Paul Rubins was. He played a very small role and that was one of the first times I saw him
have a comeback after his fall from Grace. If you guys are old enough to remember what happened to Peewee for a little while there, he got caught in the theater doing some nasty things, and so then he had to sort of like reinvent himself as just the actor
Paul Rubins. When we come back from this break, because we're shortly we're coming up on short on time here, Like I say, I have a real vampire story I want to share with you, But I also before I get to that, I have one more weird It's not a this is not a weird movie, but it's something that I do tend to watch every single year at Christmas time. It's an episode from the original Tells from the Crypt that aired on HBO Season one, episode two
back in nineteen eighty nine. There's that eighty nine again. It's called All through the House. Some of you probably know what I'm talking about. If not, well, I'll explain everything shortly and then well, I might have an email I want to read to you. Also. I'm Joshua P. Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AMN Paranormal podcast Network, and I will be
right back. Welcome back to the final segment of this edition of Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast am Paranormal podcast Network. I am your host, Joshua P. Warren, And in that episode of Tells from the Crypt I mean the original HBO series, season one, episode to nineteen eighty nine called All Through the House. It's got this great story, which of course was based upon the Telles from the Crypts comics and Vault of Horror and all that.
I love all those comics. I have a collection. It's about this woman who at the very beginning, she it's like Christmas Eve or something, and she lives in a pretty posh house and she murders her husband right at the beginning, and so she is trying to get rid of the body and going through that process and just kind of like burying him in the backyard kind of thing.
It turns out, at the same time, nearby, this insane killer has escaped from some prison and has stolen a Santa Claus outfit, and he is on the loose in the neighborhood, and just so happens to come to her house. And of course, ordinarily she would call the cops, but she can't call the cops because she's in this compromising position because she has just killed her husband. So now she has to figure out how to deal with this madman with an axe and a Santa costume running around
her house trying to kill her and her child. So yeah, it's a it's a beautiful Christmas story. And one thing that is also quite interesting about it is probably one reason that's I it's so good is because it was directed by Robert Zamechas, and uh, you know Robert Robert Zemeckis is one of the most successful directors of all time. I mean he directed Back to the Future, The Forrest, cup Castaway, one of my favorites of Bale Wolf, and Christmas movie The Polar Express. So yeah, that's that's one
of the reasons. I'm sure this was a good one. So I like to watch that episode of Tells from the cript. So again, I'm a little bit twisted though, so maybe none of these will work for you. So that is what I wanted to share with you on this show about weird movies to watch near Christmas. And now for something completely different, I've also been meaning to
share this with you for a while. Well, this is from CBS News came out a little earlier, I think last month, says archaeologist reconstruct face a four hundred year old vampire buried with iron sickle across her neck. Two years ago archaeologist in Poland, let's see this is by Steph Stephen Smith, by the way, is the writer here. Two years ago archaeologist in Poland made a discovery at a gravesite that can only describe as astonishing, the remains of a woman with a sickle around her neck and
a triangular padlock on her foot. She was found in an unmarked cemetery of this village called Pien. Four hundred year old woman was thought to be deemed a vampire, and those who buried her placed the sickle the farming tool across her throat. According to ancient beliefs, this was
to prevent her from returning from the dead. There's a research team from Nicholas Copernicus University that made the discovery and they've been working since with this Swedish archaeologist using DNA, three D printing and clay to reconstruct the face of this woman. And she was called Zosia by locals z O s I a Zosia, which is interesting because my friend Darren Evans, he always talks about Zozo and how
that zo is associated with uncomfortable feelings. I think he says that Z in general has always been considered kind of ad a bad consonant, because when you die and your lips start to draw back as a corpse, they sort of form the letters Z, like how they would look at your saying Z. That's what he said, but says here the signist say, it's really ironic. Those people burying her, they did everything they can could in order
to prevent her from coming back from the dead. We've done everything we can in order to bring her back to life. They say that she was only buried with the padlock, but when they continued experiencing some bad luck, they decided to take further action. So they opened the grave, found the padlock now open, and in panic, placed the sharp blade of a sickle over her neck. If she would arise, it would just cut her head right off.
And if this were a TV show, I would be showing you her face right now, But since it is not a TV show, you have to go online and look it up for yourself. If you follow me on social media, then maybe I'll remember to post a link to this for you somewhere on my Twitter. Just you know, you can look me up Joshua Pee Warren, or on Facebook Joshua Pee Warren or Joshua Pee Warren Podcast, or on Instagram Joshua pe w I mean it's easy to
find me. Sometimes I hear from people who say I've been trying to get in touch with you for a year. I'm the easiest guy in the world to get in touch with. But I get hundreds of emails per day, or hundreds of messages from one place for another, sometimes over a thousand, depending on what I'm up to. It's impossible for me to read them all. So please don't be offended if I don't directly answer you, but I do my best to read them all. But here's what
you can do. If you want to see the reconstructed face of this lady, just do a search for vampire buried with sickle across her neck. I'm sure it'll come up again. I'm reading this version from CBS, and there she is. I'm looking right at her, and she looks like the absolute central casting of a Middle Ages peasant girl. That's what she looks like. She has kind of a broad face that looks like she's seen like a distant stare. She looks like she's seen a lot of crap in
her life. She has light brown hair, little kind of bonnet thing, and she just looks very plain, very plain. So you never know. But you know when you watch these true crime shows now and they show these people who do these horrific things. Well, now we have scientists that come in and they try to psychoanalyze everything. But I'm sure back in those days you were just like, this is a demon possessed person, this is a vampire, this is a were wolf. Like it was very real
to them. They didn't take time to break down the psychology of everything. Why don't we go to an interesting listener email before we run out of time. This comes to me from Stephen and Titusville, Florida, he says, Joshua, given your experience investigating Tulpa's, I was wondering if you had any thoughts on the rise of AI friendship apps
and the possibility that they could be creating Tulpa's. Personally, I think it could, just like with slender Man, but since there would only be one person energizing it, it wouldn't necessarily be accidental or it would take longer. Thank you for your time, if you want to use this on your show you can well, Stephen, that is an excellent question. Thank you for sending it to me, and also thank you for specifying it that it's okay for me to talk about it on the show. I appreciate that.
And anytime any of you write me something, if you would remember to include that, that would be great. And I don't have to use your real name. I can use whatever name you want, or I can just say it's anonymous. So Stephen, the question you asked is do you have any thoughts? Well, yes, I believe that tulpa's. Let me put it this way. I believe that AI is a tulpa. And when I say a tulpa, it might just be one big, homogenized tulpa. If not, I
could say that A I are tulpa's I guess. But let me also point out that when we traditionally talk about tulpa's, we have been thinking about them as organic things that just come right from the brain of a person or the brains of persons and externalize in some way. But this is what happens when computer scientists decide to do the same thing. They are creating a technical tulpa.
That's what AI is, and it's going to reflect the values of those creators, and that is one reason that I am not very happy with the direction that AI is going to go, because it's I don't think the types of people who are creating it necessarily have thought through all the options here. And so yes, any type of relationship with AI is a relationship with the tulpa, and all it can do is multiply and breed more tulpa's.
And as a side note, I saw a video where some robot went into a room with a bunch of other robots the other day and got them all to follow him out the door. So they're already building their robot army. I'm afraid. Okay, that's it. The clock has got us. It's time to relax. Let's create a positive Tulpa for all of us. Listen to the good Fortune tongue.
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