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Episode 208: Ouija, Ghosts & Angels?

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Ready to be by the Wizard of Weird with JOSHUAE Warren. I am Joshua you Warren, and each week on this show, I'll be bringing you brand new mind blowing content, news exercises, and wait here in experiments you can do at home, and a lot more on this edition of the show. Oija, Ghosts and Angels question mark. Yeah, you don't hear those words put together too often. You hear about oija boards and ghosts, but angels. Well, I'm recording this show in the fall of twenty twenty four, and so it's a

good time to talk about this. But I also want to point out that it's pretty pretty dry here in the desert of Las Vegas, and being a professional talker gets kind of tough out here in this climate. I mean, I'm right next to Death Valley, so you might hear the dryness and my voice today. So I hope you'll forgive me, But I do want to get into this story from nineteen sixty. How old were your parents in nineteen sixty? Think about that for a second, or were

they even around in nineteen sixty. I mean, there are people who are very young who listen to this show. In nineteen sixty, My mom and dad were eight years old, And it's kind of interesting just to put stories in that kind of context. Because the account that I'm going to read you to read to you comes from a man who used a wage board in nineteen sixty and he started asking the biggest question and he believes that he wasn't just getting some nonsense. You'll see why I'm

reading this to you. He seems to think that he has confirmation that he was communicating with an angel that was using an ancient language, and he asked questions like what is reality? What is heaven? What is time? Is their life after death? What is the mind. Yeah, you're

gonna get the answer to all these questions shortly. Oh boy, I make some big promises on this show, don't I. But let's just for the heck of it, let's go and talk about the wija board for just a moment, because some people call it a wig board, and it's not wigi. It's wija wijeborn and it seems okay based on what I understand. It's from the French yes we and then like the German word for yes, like yeah oija.

Let's see what it says here, The Almighty Wikipedia Ouija, also known as a wija board, spirit board, talking board, or which board, is a flat board mark with the letters of the Latin alphabet, the numbers zero through nine, and the words yes, no, and occasionally hello and goodbye, along with various symbols and graphics. It uses a plan shit, which is a small heart shaped piece of wood or plastic,

as a movable indicator to spell out messages. During seance, participants place their fingers on the plan chet and it

has moved about the board to spell out words. The name Ouija is a trademark of Hasbro, inherited for Parker Brothers, but is often used generically to refer to any talking board, goes on to say, here's spiritualist in the United States believed that the dead were able to contact the living, and reportedly used a talking board very similar to the modern Wiga board at their camps in Ohio during eighteen eighty six, with the intent of enabling faster communication with spirits.

That's all it says about that. I read that. I was like, what what do you mean? They're camps in Ohio. But look, I don't have time to dig into the history of wija board. We'll do that some other time. I'm just giving you some kind of an idea, it says.

Following its commercial patent by businessman Elijah Bond in eighteen ninety one, the wija board was regarded as an innocent parlor game unrelated to the occult until American spiritualist Pearl Curran popped pularized its use as a divining tool during World War One. All right, and again, who is who is Pearl Current? I don't know. Maybe someday I'll sit down and just do a whole show where we dig into the wig aboard. But that's not the purpose of

this show. This show is to communicate with you the messages that this guy got through this weige board and in nineteen sixty. Now here's why I'm bringing this up. You know, for decades I have been a friend of Phyllis Galdy and she is the current owner publisher of Fate Magazine, one of the greatest publications of all time.

And last year, my wife Lauren bought me this book that was published in the nineteen sixties and it's called Fate's Strangest Mysteries, a true and startlingk chronicle of fantastic people and strange events science cannot explain. And occasionally I will read a story from this because I contacted Philis Galdy and I asked her if it was okay with her, and she said, yes, absolutely. And if you are not a subscriber to Fate Magazine, you go right now and sign up Fate mag fat e mag fatemag dot com.

You can get digital products, printed products. So I was sitting down and you know what, I think that Lauren bought this book for me about a year ago because it was a birthday present, because you know, my birthday is in October. And it's funny when this book came out. This little paperback came out in nineteen In the nineteen sixties, it was fifty cents fifty cents. So here's this story

called did I Speak with Angels? Gustav Gumbert and I Again, this kind of stood out for me because you think of using a wija board to like tap into some dark, spooky, terrifying, possibly demonic energy. But no, he thinks he might have talked to angels. So let me I'm just going to start reading what he said here, and I'm going to skip around a little bit. Where do wija board messages come from from the unconscious minds of the operators, from

beings dwelling in a world beyond? Or are they telepathic communications? These were the questions that filled our minds as a friend and I hunched over the wija board one snowy night last winter. We were determined to make a calm and objective experiment. Actually, we were about to get the shock of our laws, for we received a series of messages that reversed our opinion on the chances of communicating

with the world beyond the senses. As the pointer slid evenly deliberately across the board, we saw spelled out before our astonished eyes a message that never could have come from either of our minds. It was in a language that neither of us knew, one no man has ever spoken. But let's begin at the beginning. The first part of the message was in English. Quote this is Raphael. End quote. Then we received a brilliant lecture on occult philosophy that,

when written down, filled one notebook page. Well, this much, we decided, could have bubbled up from our unconscious minds. We both had read a little literature sure of occultism, and we knew that Rafael, along with Gabriel, Michael, and Uriel, were the four archangels of the ancient Hebrews angelic hierarchy.

And you know, so we were. We were dissatisfied. What we wanted was a test that would definitely rule out the chances of our unconscious collaborating with the board, and we challenged that we Ja or whatever was operating it, to give us proof beyond any question. The next message seemed, at first glance like a string of nonsense syllables E C A R A F A E L O.

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D V A O A N I O d I A O D P I l t A. I.

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We first thought, quite naturally this was pure gibberish, but a certain precision about the movements of the point or aroused our suspicion, and instead of moving wildly as one might expect, it moved with decisiveness that suggested intelligent and conscious directions. So let's go with it, I said, we may be getting something after all. Well, we're going to

take a break. When we come back. This guy from nineteen sixty is going to explain to you why that he realized this was an angelic language that has a basis in history that was unknown coming through and once he unlocked that, wait to hear what this angel had to say through the weigilboard. You know, it's funny because I sit down to do the show and I get

overwhelmed because there's so much to talk about. But that's that's why I also have an e newsletter that you can sign up for, because if you know, I can only I only have so much time here. So if you want to get the rest of the story, as a great broadcaster once said, please sign up for my free and spam free e newsletter. Just go to Joshua Pwarren dot com. Right there On the homepage, you'll see a place where you can put in your email address.

Just submit and you'll instantly receive an automated message from me that's got links to some really cool online goodies, you know, like free good luck charm, instructions on how to make stuff that will help you see the spirit realm Joshua P. Warren dot com. That's me. I have Joshua P. Warren, and you're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network,

and I will be right back. Welcome back to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I am your host, the Wizard of We're Joshua P. Warren, beaming into your wormhole brain from my studio in Sin City, Las Vegas. I've hada where every day is golden and every night is silver. A zietato zume. And before we get back to this wija board story, here's something that you probably did not know about me.

My dad, Danny Warren, is also an author. And you know I interviewed my dad on this show a while back. Let's see. Oh yeah, it was episode one hundred. I wanted to do that as a special occasion. Episode one hundred of this this podcast called Strange Things is called Joshua interviews his dad about the paranormal and he has a surprise. And there is a surprise in that, by the way, because my dad, well maybe I shouldn't tell you if you haven't listened to it. I don't want

to spoil it for you. But you'll never guess what the surprise is. My dad has written a couple of books, and he likes to write these books that are he likes to write fiction, and he likes to write ken I guess, like paranormal novellas or novelettes that are maybe like one hundred pages or so for all ages. And I'm holding in my hands, I kid you, and i'd just got the very first copy in the mail today, my dad's new book. He writes under the pen name Stone Owl, Stone Owl. Why is that? Well, we'll let

that be a mystery for a while. You can dwell on that. But when I was a kid, the first time I ever heard about the Brown mountain lights, these mysterious illuminations, these balls of light floating around the mountains of Western North Carolina was when my dad would tell me these stories about the Brown Mountain Lights, and he loved that song. There's a song called the Legend of the Brown Mountain Lights by Tommy fail and my dad, who was in his seventies. You know, he was born

in western North Carolina. He's lived there his whole life. He finally decided to sit down and take a lot of the stories, the legends and the fun stuff and combine them with some of the scientific research and write this story. And it's called Brown Mountain Lights Adventure. I got it literally, I just got this a couple hours ago out of the mill. And on the back is a picture of my dad, Danny Warren Stone. Now, and

here's what it says. After losing his mother, Randy Early's life changes when he meets a mystical man named Daniel while fishing by the river. I know that's confusing, isn't it, because my dad's name is Daniel. But he anyway, you see where this is going, all right, So, after considerable persistence, Daniel enlists Randy's help to destroy the aliens on Brown

Mountain near Ashville, North Carolina. After meeting people not of this earth and experiencing many trials and tribulations, the men discover that the aliens are not so easy to beat. An entertaining story for all ages, and good for sharing around the campfire. And then there's a little bio of my dad. Says Born and raised in the mountains of western North Carolina, stone Owl resides with his wife, roaming throughout the Appalachians, wood carving and enjoying the best blue

ridge life has to offer. I'll tell you what this. He wrote a poem in the beginning, and I'm just going to read you the poem. This is published by Lisa Hagen's Books. I've known Lisa Hagen for years, and let me tell you something. She only publishes the best stuff. She has published some of my stuff, so I can speak from experience. She knows she knows a good author, right. And here's a poem that opens the book. This is

from my father, Nanny Warren, I e Stone Owl. As we stood upon the rim from Wiseman's view and gazed to the gorge. The Linnville River meandered along its crooked, rocky path. The splendor from the view above, I hoped would always last. Across the canyon. You could see the famous Table Rock, watching over a hawk Bill Mountain from the flatness of its top. In the distance stood Brown Mountain, the most mystic place to be rising each night its

mysterious lights. Only a few have been privileged to see. When, to my surprise interview, there glides a giant that I've never seen, a bald eagle by name. All know it's fame, a symbol of freedom and peace, such a majestic one with strength and grace. As he sailed on toward the east, his course was set the way the river went. As he floated through the sky, I prayed that he would turn around, but I could only tell him by a place of such beauty I never knew existed so close

to home. I'd find a treasure like this. As darkness falls upon the land, while still gazing at the sky, a distant light begins to rise from the mountain before my eyes. I realize now that I've viewed the lights that have been rising through the years. A wetness falls from both my eyes. I guess you call it tears. The lights are real, and I've been blessed among the few to sit and watch from my seat of rock. The light's mysterious views the Brown Mountain Lights. They rise

all night and slowly fade away. Now I've seen the views by night, and I've seen the views by day. It's getting so cold I have to go, so I'm starting out the trail. If anyone tells you the lights aren't real, just tell them time will tell. That's how my dad opens this book, Brown Mountain Lights Adventure, and then it gets into this crazy story. So how cool

is that? If you want to get a copy Brown Mountain Lights BML, go to bmlbook dot com bmlbook dot It costs ten bucks for crying out loud and unless if you just want the kindle bmlbook dot com. And also there are links at Brownmountain Lights dot com that's all spelled out, and then Ridgehoppers dot com. That's my dad's other book. It's called Ridge Hoppers ridge Hoppers dot com. But the easiest way to go straight to Amazon is bmlbook dot com. Congratulations Dad, and I hope you all

realize that. Well, if you think that I am a weirdo, obviously it was in my genes. I inherited this interest in strange things, and my dad has proven that. So Brown mountain. Miight's adventure is perfect for this time of year because this is the time of year when you have the best chances of seeing the brown mountain lights there in western North Carolina. Look it up, all right,

back to this Oijaboard story. So all right, so basically, this guy, he's there with his buddy, and he said that he wants to point out, okay, these words are coming in that seemed like gibberish. And he says, it's only fair to say that between the two of us we do read or speak eight languages German, English, French, Dutch, Spanish, Italian, Latin, and Greek. We also have a smattering of some of the Slavic tongues. And I had once taken a brief

and not very useful core in Hindustani. So this guy keeps talking about how like like he and his buddy they know all these languages and they're but they're not figuring out what's coming through here. So they take this information and he says, flickering in the recesses of my memory was a recollection that somewhere I had read about a strange language that had been discovered in England centuries ago by two mystics. It stuck in my mind that

this language was supposed to have been spoken by an angel. Now, for those who may feel skeptical at this point, let me say that I have never seen any samples of this hidden language. Somewhere in my mind, I remember reading a reference to doctor John d the court astrologer to Queen Elizabeth. The article said that d and collaboration with a man named Edward Kelly, had received and recorded messages

in a language that he learned from an angel. So this guy goes really in depth here, okay, talking about who John d was, and he goes back. Long story short, as we say, he goes back and he realizes that when he starts looking at this quote unquote gibberish that's coming through and comparing it to this ancient language that John Dee said was an angelic language and John d was the inspiration for the real Merlin, suddenly they break, they break the code and they start deciphering this angelic

language coming through, coming through. He says. From that day on, the messages continued, Oh boy, we're already up on our next break. See this is why you got to sign up for my newsletter. When we come back. I'm gonna tell you the answer is this angel, possible angel gave this man to these questions. What is reality? What is heaven? What is time? Is their life after death? What is mine? And let's just see what you think. Does it? Does it ring true for you? And then also, do you

know the story of the scientific Chicken? You ever heard that one? I bet you haven't. When we come back, I'll tell you the story. Well, at some point I'll see if I can squeeze it in for you as well. We have too much going on. Oh yeah, you know that they released a video of the investigation that I did here in Las Vegas. Man, I gotta tell you

about that. I'm Joshua pe Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will be back after these important messages. Welcome back to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I'm your host, Joshua P. Warren, and this is the show where the unusual becomes usual. On my last show, I was telling you about this investigation that I did for the city of Las Vegas.

I mean, like we're talking dot gov real paranormal investigation making history film by Guy Finalosy, and as usual, he did an absolutely fantastic job. If you follow me on social media, you will have seen this already. But if not, just go to YouTube and it's the city the City of Las Vegas has a YouTube channel and the title is we Go ghost Hunting with a Professional Paranormal Investigator, so you can find it there. It's a little over

six minutes long. And yeah, everybody just did a wonderful job. And as I knew, of course, some of the more grim details did not make the cut on the official dot gov video, and I don't I don't blame them for that because it wasn't necessary. But that's why I did the podcast last week and I told you the behind the scenes scoop on everything. But what an honor, What an honor to be uh, to be invited for that. But also, you know what, I don't talk about politics,

you know this. The only political thing that is important to me is free speech. For obvious reasons, I'm a professional talker, so I definitely believe that free speech is the most important right of all. And sometimes the Internet

gets a little little wonky, little wishy washy. So like, for example, I'm meant to point out, like, if you are interested in my dad's book and you're having a problem accessing it, just go to Amazon dot com and just look for just do a search for Brown Mountain Lights Adventure by Stone Owl, and you'll be able to find it that way as well. Okay, so much to talk about, so little time. Back to Fate's strangest mysteries,

Gustav Gumbert. So anyway, he and his companion they decipher this ancient angelic language, and you know, I could, I could sit here and tell you for three hours you know how they did all this. But let's just cut to the chase. Here are the answers to the questions. Number one. Okay, so this is a question that he asked on April eighteenth of nineteen sixty, April being a

very paranormal month. What is reality? The angel speaking through the weigiboard, which I know is an unusual concept, as you usually think of wijiborgs as being some kind of nasty thing. But hey, the angel says, the world as you see and know it is not the true world, the world of your senses is one of many possible worlds. You will never understand this until you have experienced the greater view of the universe, which is what men mean

when they speak of enlightenment. This is the meaning of the Japanese zen Satori, the meaning of the Buddha when he spoke of nirvana, and of Jesus when he spoke of heaven. Okay, So then he asks this angel, speaking in this archaic, obscure language, well, what is heaven? The angel says, a state of mind open to all men, which comes through careful following of the path. It is a new experience of the universe which shows the many worlds within the one world, and the one world within

the many. So then he says, well, what is required for faith healing? And the angel says, to be a healer, one must first learn to release the unconscious, as all power of the earthly type flows from this source. Secondly, you must learn to focus this unconscious power on one problem at a time. The unconscious operates when you are asleep. Therefore, before going to sleep, concentrate on one subject. Limit your concentration to one phrase or sentence of not more than

ten words. Repeat this over and over. Your unconscious will do the rest, and you will achieve. You will achieve the objective. Then he says, well, what is time? The Angel says, there is no time as you know it. Everything in the universe is an experience occurring simultaneously. You perceive them in many parts, and that is what you mean by time. And now we're jumping into May of nineteen sixty, and he says, is their life after death? The Angel says time has no beginning or ending, nor

do you. It is as though you walked through a series of rooms. Each room is there and continues to exist after you depart from it. Before you enter it is the future, and after you leave it is the past. But the room is always there. It is you who changes. You will always continue, for you are a great circle that begins nowhere and ends nowhere. And lastly, he asks this question May ninth of nineteen sixty What is mind? And the Angel says, the function of the mind is

not clearly understood by science. The mind is not the brain. On the contrary, the brain is an instrument that is used by the mind to achieve its purpose. The mind, in turn, is part of a total system and this system cannot be fully comprehended unless it is experiences. The brain is an electronic system. The mind is a multi dimensional system, greater than the brain in more than size. It is like putting the ocean in a bottle to

try to understand the mind with the brain. Therefore, resign yourself to the fact that you will never understand the mind. You can only experience it. For if you try to understand the greater with the lesser, what can you learn? And then he goes on to say, in addition to these messages, I was given many examples of independent knowledge of facts, events, and situations that we could not have known. Most of these are personal, however, and cannot be reported here.

He summarizes by saying, this remarkable experience raises a number of questions, how can we explain by any rational method the message in angelic before either of us the operators had seen the language. And most remarkable of all, I think this experience has caused two hard headed skeptics to question their own explanations of the universe. For if we can talk with angels, well, what kind of world do we really live in? Did you get anything out of that? Again?

My thanks to philis Galdy Fate Magazine, fatemag dot com. You know, isn't that interesting something that happened in nineteen sixty. Here it is twenty twenty four. I'm reading this from nineteen sixty, and yet it sort of it makes sense, doesn't it. I think it makes sense. Well, I remember when I was in college. Let's see, Yeah, I got a scholarship to college because I'm extremely handsome. You know, if you took Harrison Ford and Brad Pitt and merged them into some Greek anyway, So I think I was

in college and I was taking biology. I could be wrong about this, but I'm at some point in my life I was taking biology and I was told that there was an experiment that was done about genetic memory.

Have you ever heard of this? That basically, they some scientists took some kind of worm or something, and they they taught it to navigate a maze to get a treat, and then when the worm died, they grounded up and they fed this worm to a brand new baby worm, and then they put that babyworm in the maze, and the baby worm knew how to solve the maze and

get the treat. And it kind of makes you wonder a little bit about genetics and how things are passed along and instinct in all of that, Well, is there any truth to that whatsoever, that there is some form of immortality that is not just spiritual but sort of a physical way of surviving death and passing along information, especially if time is all happening at once and we're

just sort of experiencing it. I want to dig a little bit into genetic memory because there's a new news story that also is saying that, well, there may be a new variation online life after death, which is based upon the idea of genetic memory, of things being passed along from creature to creature over time, that life after death is not just a spiritual thing but literally a physical thing, and that you've always been around because well,

you're here right now. I'm Joshua P. Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast I am a normal podcast network, and I will be right back. Welcome back to the final segment of this edition of Strange Things ah the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast am paranormal podcast network. I am your host, Joshua P. Warren and I mentioned that on a past episode. I mentioned that I spent an evening with Page Bryant. Paige

Bryant was an author who popularized VO Texas. She started in Sedona, Arizona, and then she ended up moving to western North Carolina, and my friend Brian Irish and I went and spent a night with her, and I just remember like one of the things she said was do

you know the story of the scientific Chicken? And I said no, and she and she said, uh, well, all the scientific Chicken was there taking notes every day and said, all right, well, it appears that the farmer comes out here every day about six in the morning and feeds us, and then he comes out and you know, he waters us about eight in the morning, and then he waters us again about two in the afternoon, and then he comes and he feeds us again about three in the afternoon.

And I've documented this a thousand times. So this is a law. This is this is this is what the farmer does. This is a law. It's like a law of physics. And then one day the farmer comes out and jerks them all out of there and cuts their heads off. So it's it's probably not the best story to tell your child. But it has to do with, you know, the uncertainty that we all feel. Just because you're used to something and you've seen it happen this particular way ninety nine point nine percent of the time

doesn't mean there cannot be a gigantic exception. And you know, when it comes to death, like living and dying and all that, it is interesting to think about how we fit into this, Like we just get used to things, you know, we get we just get to I don't want to say in a rut. Sometimes we get in a rut, but you just get used to things that you start taking your life for granted sometimes, you know. I was born in Asheville, North Carolina, and Thomas Wolfe

is the most famous author from there. And he wrote in his book Look Homeward Angel about watching his brother Ben die of tuberculosis. So here's Thomas wolf This is a man from you know. Well, well, Thomas wolf died in the I think in the thirties, so this would have been anyway like so he writes this. He's sitting there and he's looking at his brother and he wrote quote the rattling and the wasted body, which seemed for hours to have given over to death. All of life

that is worth saving had now ceased. The body appeared to grow rigid before them, and then Ben breathed one more gasp of breath, opening his eyes, rising off his pillow, to the astonishment of Tom and his family, before passing, as Thomas Wolfe wrote, quote instantly scornful and unafraid, as he had lived into the shades of death. End quote. But this is the thing that stuck out really for me, he wrote. We can believe and the nothingness of life.

We can believe, and the nothingness of death and of life after death. But who can believe in the nothingness of Ben? You know? My favorite story by Thomas Wolfe was called The Far and the Near And if you want to hear me read it for free, just go to jp w's Those are my initials, jp Go to jpwstory dot com and you can hear me read The Far and the Near. It makes you It does make you wonder, doesn't it about our place in the universe. So there's a story that came out about I guess

maybe it's genetic memory. I mean, I read this story during the break and honestly, the story kind of sucks. But basically, like genetic memory, is this theorized phenomenon in which certain kinds of memories could be inherited being present at birth in the absence of any associated sensory experience, and that such memories could be incorporated into the genome over long spans of time. And that's it. Is it

true or not? It's kind of up in the air. Still, it's wishy washy, but we knew, we do know that instinct exists. So I got sent this story from somebody from Unexplained hyphen Mysteries dot com. It's called Scientists discover new third state between life and death and it basically says it's not quite Frankenstein's Monster, but the find is likely to push the boundaries of life, death, and medicine.

Researchers have found that skin cells extracted from deceased frog embryos were able to adapt to the new conditions of a petri dish in a lab, spontaneously reorganizing into multi cellular organisms called xenobox xenobots. This is not easy to read nor easy to speak, Okay, so let me try

this again, Okay. Researchers found that skin cells extracted from dead frog embryos were able to adapt to the new conditions of a Patriot dish and a lab spontaneously reorganizing into multi cellular organisms called xenobox, and these organisms exhibit behaviors that extend far beyond their original biological roles. These xenobots use their cillia, little small hair like structures to

navigate and move through their surroundings. Xenobots are also able to perform kinematic self replication, meaning they can physically replicate their structure andunction without growing. See. I don't even understand exactly what they're talking about here. I mean, like I think, I think what they're trying to say is that if you break this down, you can take Okay, let's read this. It says the third state challenges how scientists typically understand

cell behavior. While caterpillars metamorphosing into butterflies or tadpoles evolving into frogs may be familiar, there are a few instances where organisms change in ways that are not predetermined. Tumors, organoids, and cell lines that can indefinitely divide in a petri dish are not considered part of the third state because they do not develop new functions. But I think that what they're saying is that some of these cells are able to adapt things which may be similar to the

genetic memory thing I was talking about. I'm really not certain, you know. That's one thing about this show. I mean, I'm not just gonna like sit here and pretend that every story that pops up in front of me that is interesting is something that I understand, because I mean, that would be foolish, wouldn't it. I don't know, I don't understand. I'm just as confused as you are half the time. Well we're almost out of time, though, So how about this. Let me leave you with this piece

of mental manner. My beautiful wife, Lauren, she just celebrated a birthday. We've been together for twenty seven years, and I bought her a really nice gift and I was trying to figure out how to hide it from her, and I realized that, hey, I don't know about you. I can only speak for myself. If you want to keep a secret from your wife, put it on top of the refrigerator. Now. Now, granted I'm only talking about myself. I'm six two, and Lauren, I mean you know, she's

she's five seven I think. I mean, so, you know, but if you put something on top of the refrigerator, chances are she's never going to see it. Uh. The odds of her getting a ladder out and walking up there to see what's on top of the fridge. I bet. I bet the top of your refrigerator is dusty. There may be a whole ecosystem living on top of that refrigerator.

So that's called that a public service announcement. That's my advice for you on how to keep a secret from your wife, no matter what it is, put it on top of the refrigerator. All right. I came up with that all by myself, Thank you very much. All Right, my friends, you might be able to see I'm a little bit worn out here. So I think it's time for us to let's just take a deep breath, if you can, close your eyes, and let's all meditate together on the one, the only, the original, the world famous

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