Episode 199: Living Beyond Fear: The Healing After Effects of Near-Death Experiences!

On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know that our loved ones have survived physical death and so will we Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. You may wonder why I pick certain topics for each episode, and the truth is, as a human being, I deal with the same things you deal with the hopes and fears, anxiety, frustrations,

moments of joy, excitement, all of it. Before recording, I put a little prayer out to who's ever listening and ask for some stories that'll make a difference both for you and for me. This episode, I'm fully aware of some of the fear and struggles and worry that many people have going on in their lives right now. Turn on the news and it will really stir it up and turn our concerns to high volume. If you're a super fan of this show, you've already heard the story

written by Jane. She says, I remember an incident that happened when I was in my sophomore year of pre med studies. I've always been interested in healing because my mother had died years earlier, and I'd been exposed to many physicians and hospital settings. Yet while I knew I wanted to be a doctor, I was overcome by fear and doubt about whether or not I could make it through the years of school. I was devastated when I got the news that my father had been diagnosed with

gastric cancer. Although I was focused on my studies, I decided to take a leave of absence to help him fight the disease. As I stepped onto the cancer roller coaster, I was committed to facing the difficult challenges that were ahead, and quickly learned that it wasn't only an emotional drain, but also a financial one, since there were many necessary treatments that our health insurance didn't cover. Before all of this happened, I been getting ready for the medical college

admission test and was overcome with fear and anxiety. I knew this one exam could make or break my career in medicine. But as my father's condition grew worse, I realized that my plan to take off a semester wasn't realistic. This was going to be a much worse ordeal than I had imagined. I realized that I had to face the fact that cancer had spread and my dad was dying. It turned out that I was terrified of losing him

as he was dying. My father had always been a fearful person, but my mother had known how to calm his fears. I'd taken over that role years ago, but Dad and I only had each other. I couldn't imagine my life without him. Late one night, when i'd fallen asleep on the couch next to my father's bed. I woke up hearing his voice. I looked over and saw him reaching toward the ceiling. Dad, what's going on? What are you reaching for? She's here? Who your mother? She's

right here? I was in awe. Could it be true? Was it possible that she was actually in the room? Dad? I said, what's mom saying? Tell her how much I miss her. My father was mesmerized by whatever he was gazing upon, but then he started speaking, she wants us to know that there's nothing to fear. There was never anything to fear. She's been watching over us, and she loves how you've been taking care of me. Now she'll be watching over you and your family. There is nothing

to be afraid of. I wondered what family my mother was talking about. After all, I was single and my dad was dying. When he died the next day, I took little comfort in the words he said. Both of my parents were now gone, and I felt utterly alone. To make things worse, my savings were diminished and I had no hope of paying for medical school. I transferred to a local college and went on to earn my degree in psychology. I became a counselor with a private practice,

and I met the man I would marry. Within a few years, I had a wonderful husband and two healthy children. I knew this was the family that my mother said she'd be watching over. Today, nearly seventeen years after my father's death, my kids are teenagers, and I'm still inspired by my dad's vision. I recall my mother's words, there's nothing to fear, and there never was. And now I

realized that fear doesn't stop death, it stops life. After I was ultimately able to overcome my own fears and doubts, I went back to school to prepare for that test that I had begun to study for so many years ago. I now see that while my father's illness temporarily stopped me from going after my dreams, his vision of my mother's encouragement brought my dreams back to life. Those words really got to me. And I know you're dealing with your own fears and anxieties, and I love this sentence.

She wants us to know that there's nothing to fear, and there was never anything to fear. Those are easy words to say, but it's hard to do. I've often heard the best way to deal with fear is just to plow right through it. And I've also witnessed that the hardest part of fear is what happens in our heads. When we're so present and in action, the fear goes away. It's only when we stop and we start thinking about

it again that fear comes back. In Author Neil Donald Walsh says, life begins at the end of your comfort zone. I love that, and I'm sure you have testimonies. But things you've overcome, and how grateful you are that you did those things. Mark Twain said this, twenty years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't

do than by the things you did do. So throw off the bow lines, sail away from safe harbor, catch the trade winds in your sales, explore, dream, discover, and William shed said a ship in the harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for. You and I, my friend, well, we are ships in this

thing called life. And while we're together today, I want you to hear some near death experience stories that talk about such fears, and I'm hoping that they empower you to go after your dreams to realize that we are being supported by loved ones in this invisible space around us. We can't see them, but they're here. And what Jane's mother said, there's nothing to fear. Our first story is by author Rosemary Thornton, who not just was a survivor

of her husband's suicide, but she herself had cancer. Her story tells us we don't need to be afraid, and miracles are possible.

They sent me home, and at home, I realized that I was bleeding profusely and it was not getting any better. So I asked my friend who had driven me home, to summon an ambulance because I realized given the great quantity of blood and the speed with which I was losing it that I thought I might be dying. So he summoned an ambulance and they came and took me to an er that was not far from my home, and at the er had a very young doctor, and I think she was a bit afraid. She didn't really

seem to know what she was doing. And I continued to bleed, and they just packed some gauze and left me alone in the room. They'd given me some Delauded for pain in an IV and then walked out of the room, leaving me alone with my friend. And I lost consciousness soon after that delauded, and I was actually unconscious.

And I remember thinking, I wish I'd known what a non big deal this was, and I wouldn't have been so afraid as a writer. I thought to myself, Wow, I'm dying. And then I said, no, actually, you're not dying.

I had no heart beat, no blood pressure, nothing for more than ten minutes. I prefer to think of it as temporary death. But during that time I was impressed beyond words by how much peace and calm I felt. If you could take the most perfect peace a human being could ever imagine and multiply it by a million, I don't think that would touch what I experienced, and that peace was so profound in life changing. And I remember, as I was again floating in the darkness, I remember

thinking I should be afraid. I don't like the dark, and I thought I should be afraid. But I have the most perfect peace I've ever known. And that's one of the reasons I had no intention of going back as a writer. As a creative person, I have always suffered from profound anxiety, and subsequent to my husband's tragic death, it seemed like that was multiplied one hundredfold. All that anxiety was gone. And while I was wondering what exactly did I leave behind on that gurney, I realized I

left behind the fear, the worries, the anxiety. And I thought of always wondered what I would look like when I had no anxiety and no fear and no worries, and I thought, this is great, this is wonderful. So I was floating through that blackness and I thought about the Bible verse the piece that passeth all understanding, and I thought, this is what Paul was talking about. This is the piece that words could never describe. It passes all the understanding we have as human beings. It was

so profound. It still is very touching to me. That piece I felt. And at one point early on in the experience, shortly after I passed, I thought, I'm having a great time. I'm alone, but I'm having a great time. I remember thinking, I like floating. Floating is fun, this is great. And as a writer, that's horrible. That's horrible text. I should have been using bigger words, more expressive language. But how is the best I could do?

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I thought wow. And for many years of my life, I've studied Genesis, specifically First Genesis, and that's the language of the Bible from First Genesis twenty five and twenty six that were made in God's image and likeness. But these words came with an infusion of knowledge. It wasn't mere words. The Bible talks about in the beginning. Was the word and I thought about that that this is what that meant. These were words that came with all the power that created the universe, And I thought, wow,

could this possibly get any better? Because now I understand I'm the image and likeness. It was an experience. I know people say this often that words can't describe, but I was having such a good time and I felt, honestly, my life has not been an easy one, and I was so grateful that at age fifty it was over that it almost felt like I'd been granted an early release for good behavior. And now I was on my way back home. And that was a profound feeling was

that I was just going home. I didn't want to go back to Earth at all. It never even crossed my mind about coming back. I literally remember thanking God that I was done, that I had done what I needed to do, and I was now moving home. And at some point it's almost like somebody took my batteries out. There's a complete blank from being in that blackness to being in a white room. And it was a beautiful room, but it was pure white. The walls, the ceiling, the

floor were like luminescent, purlescent white, white white. I was in this room, and I don't remember the transition from floating in that blackness to the white and that white room. I was told I was there for healing, that whether I went back or whether I went on, we can't go to heaven with burdens and sadness and sickness. So I thought, okay, well, this is great. I like the white room, and being an architectural storian, I looked around

for lights and there were no lights. It was just the walls were illuminated from within, and I saw a door at the other side of the room, and I decided, I don't know if I have feet or legs, but I'm going to perambulate toward that door. And it was almost as though just with the intention, I started moving toward the door, and I knew where the door was

my whole life. I've studied near death experiences and read the books, and I knew the door meant that there was no coming back, that that was crossing the rubicon. So I eagerly scooted toward the door at best possible speed because I was done. And at the door, I paused. Oh, I paused, and I asked, is this the divine will for my life? That a simple slip of the surgical

knife takes me out? And the answer was no. But the answer also was, but whatever you decide, if you decide to go forward or you decide to go back, whatever decision you make, you go with all of God's grace and mercy and blessings and love. There isn't a

wrong decision. And that was immensely comforting because two and a half years prior to this event, my husband had come home for lunch one day and ended his life at our home, and I had been suffering from so many pains from that experience suicide survivors have burdens that most people can't imagine. But there have been so many difficult decisions to make, and one of my daily prayers was, God, I can't make any more decisions. These decisions all hurt so much and are so tough, and all have such

enormous consequences. So I felt like God had heard my prayers and saying, Okay, you don't have to make a tough decision. There's not a wrong decision here, and that meant the world to me. And my other daily prayer had been either let me die in my sleep or heal me. But the pain occasioned by my husband's horrific suicide had cost me more grief and agony and suffering than I could ever enumerate with words, So I felt like those prayers had been answered too, that I had

passed in relative peace and it was over. And my other prayer had been that I would not have a life review. Having gone through this once, I did not want to experience it again, and I did not have a life review. Opened my eyes to how prayers a petition are also powerful, powerful prayers, So at that door, I was so grateful to hear that there wasn't a bad decision. There wasn't a wrong decision. So I reached for the doorknob, and I had a memory come to me of the nurse that had stood by my side

when I was in that emergency room. She had held my hand as I was bleeding out before I lost consciousness. I had exacted a promise from her that she wasn't going to let me die, and she said, oh, honey, we're not going to let you die. We have many solutions for this. So at that door, as I reached for that door to move on, that image of that nurse came to mind, and I had a vision of her.

I saw her sitting on a stool in a hospital supply room with her head in her hands, sobbing un controllably and saying, I promised that woman I wasn't going to let her die. And I lost her, And especially after all the grief and pain I'd known for my husband's death, I thought, I don't think I can do that to somebody. I don't think I can inflict that much pain on somebody else. And I was still wondering, maybe I can. I can just go on, because I need to go. I'm ready to go, and then I

felt her pain. I didn't just see it, I felt it internally, and it swamped me. It was like somebody hit me in the chest with the pain, and I realized I could not do that. I felt her pain and it was so overwhelming and so painful. I realized

I had to go back. So I literally had my right hand on that door to push through and go on, and I literally put my right hand back at my side, still pretty interested by the fact that I was right handed in heaven, but I thought, if I die, this is going to ruin her day, which she'd get over it, I realized now. But in a millisecond of a millisecond, I was back on that gurney in the er with

a lot of activity happening all around me. And I was in the hospital for several days because I'd lost so much blood, my heart had stopped, which was very affirming. They told me the next day my heart had stopped. I had a heart attack occasioned by the lack of blood, and there was an expectation that there'd be all kinds of serious after effects from this. The heart attack they believed had done significant damage to my heart and kidneys, and liver.

affirmed that every vest of the disease was gone. I was completely healed. And while people love that, they love that story, to me, the bigger healing was my soul. And shortly after that, I opened my Bible when I was back home, and I opened it to Psalm twenty three, and it said He restored my soul. I remember this so clearly. I was laying on the floor reading it, and I cried for about a half hour, and I realized,

that's the real healing. While I'm very grateful to be disease free, very grateful for a story that affirms the goodness of God, the power of love, the restorative power of such an experience. To have my soul healed was something that only God could do. The most remarkable healing was my soul. That the sadness, the grief, the regret, the pain, the agony of losing my husband to suicide

was gone. And what the angels told me was that it had been encapsulated, that it was there, and it had caused a lot of pain, but it couldn't hurt me anymore. And I found that.

I donated all of it to a college library. I started selling off my family's heirlooms, furniture they've been in the family for generations, because I thought, you know, somebody else will enjoy this a lot. And then I sold my car, and that's when my friends really thought I'd lost my mind. That was my dream car. I had special ordered. It took two months to get, but I drove it back to the dealership, had a friend take me and I said, how much will you give me

for this car? And they said, Missus Thornton, you spent two months waiting for that car, And I said, I know, I don't need it anymore. My furniture, my possessions in my car sold, my home listed, it sold within two hours, and then I left. I was living in the Virginia Beach area, and I left. I packed my clothes and some possessions in a slightly used Prius which I had bought, and I drove a thousand miles due west to start a new life. And that was also exactly what I needed.

The old memories of where I had lived with my husband were dragging me to the depths of hell, and starting over was liberating. I cannot begin to describe what it felt like to be free of all those earthwaights and to have a new chance at a new life. And so many people have said, oh, I wish I could do that. And yet that's what's interesting is that's when my friends really thought I'd lost my mind, is when I started selling off everything I owned and said

I was going one thousand miles west. It's changed me in every way a human being can be changed, and it's all for the good. And now everything looks so different. But I do cry more easily. When I hear about somebody who's lost somebody to suicide. I typically just burst out in tears because I feel their pain. And yet I don't go home crying and keep crying for days like I used to. I don't crawl into bed and stay there. So everything has gotten so much better, I

guess the biggest struggles. I still think maybe I died and I've just gone to a new place because I'm not sure exactly what's happening. I feel completely different. An interesting consequence of this, after I was out of the hospital, I realized that the arthritis that had plagued me in my wrist disappeared. I had a busted knee from an old injury that healed up. I had a busted shoulder from an old injury. Pretty much I got, as my friend in It says, you got rebooted by the creator.

It's been an amazing experience. Every now and then somebody says, how do you know you really died? There's so many ways, but I guess the biggest would be when I died, I had been diagnosed with this life threatening illness. When I came back, it had evaporated. I mean, there's no meta explanation for any of that. And then my blood work showed that I had a full recovery from hemorrhaging

to death within ten days. Within ten days, all of my numbers on the blood work were back to normal, which the doctors told me would take about three months, and it happened in ten days. But again, the angels reassured me everything would be reset, and it was.

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time ago here on Shades of the After Life. But here are some commonalities I want to share of the

near death experience. One. In the cases in which people came closest to death or were clinically dead, they told of being outside of their bodies or moving through a void or dark tunnel toward a luminous light, of meeting departed relatives and friends, of having a feeling of great comfort and bliss, and of being surrounded by compassionate love, of feeling so beautiful they longed to remain when they returned to their earthly lives, and they were affected by

this feeling for the rest of their lives.

as likely to have one as a devoutly religious person. Four, regardless of their prior attitudes, whether skeptical or deeply religious, and regardless of the many variations in religious blas beliefs and a degree of skepticism, most of these people were convinced that they had been in the presence of some supreme and loving power and had a glimpse of the life yet to come. Five. Drugs, anesthesia and medication did not seem to be a factor in inducing these impressions

and exquisite feelings of an ND. In fact, drugs and anesthesia seemed to be more likely to cause a person to forget memories of an ND. Number six. Doctor Ring definitely concluded that NDEs are not hallucinations because hallucinations are rambling, unconnected, often unintelligible, and very widely whereas near death experiences tend to have similar elements of a clear, connected pattern. Seven.

Based on the information of those who had reported such incidents, the moment of death was often one of unparalleled beauty, peace and comfort, and a feeling of total love and acceptance. This was possible even for those involved in horrible accidents in which they suffered very serious injuries. Doctor Ring found that there was tremendous comfort potential in this information for

people who were facing death. Eight After going through a near death experience, people reported a loss of fear of death, as well as a greater appreciation of life. They also reported stronger feelings of self acceptance and a greater concern and sense for caring for other people. They had less interest in material things for their own sake, many tended to be more spiritual, though not necessarily more involved in

organized religion. And nine, almost all subjects who experienced a near death experience found their lives transformed and experienced a change in their attitudes and values, as well as their

inclination to love and help others. Doctor Ring was convinced that these were absolutely authentic experiences and noted that since returning, many of them had occasion to think about what might have been, and their subsequent lives were powerful testimony to our common ability to live more deeply, to live with more gratitude, to live more lovingly and more spiritually. That goes hand in hand with the story we just heard. The next near death experience you're going to hear is

just a quick one, just a few minutes. It's the story of Mary Joe rappini who describes herself as a stubborn atheist. She went through a near death experience after suffering a brain aneurysm. She is the wife and mother of two, and realized that all of the stories she had heard from other people in hospital situations were not necessarily caused by hallucinations. She's now a psychotherapist in private practice and a therapist at the Methodist Hospital in the

Texas Medical Center. Rappinie found it therapeutic to write it all down. The result is her recently released a book titled is God Pink Dying to Heal.

that something holds me. I don't remember how I got there, but something is holding me because I can feel it physically around me. And it says, Mary Joe, you cannot stay, and I say why. First I was upset. I said what, and it said you cannot stay? And then I said why. And this voice that I don't see his face. I can't tell you what it looks like because I have no idea. It says to me, you can't stay because you have more to do.

And then I remember waking up and Ron was crying, and he's got this form of what they give you when you're going to have to have surgery.

ourselves while we're here. If our men is to serve and is to love, and is to make a difference with others? And when I say others, when we look in the mirror, we are one of those people. How are we doing on that mission? It doesn't matter what day it is, what time it is, It's never too late to start applying love all over. And yes, that means even to people we don't like and that we don't agree with. Human nature wants us to gossip and get involved with maybe bad mouthing, and that's just part

of our human dna, I think. But we can rise above it. Mother Teresa gave some great framework that I think might help. She said, let no one ever come to you without leaving better and happier. Be the living expression of God's kindness. Kindness in your face, kindness in your eyes, kindness in your smile. And as our first story told us, the importance of gratitude. So we're talking

about anxiety, we're talking about fear. My dad told me ninety percent of the things we fear never happen, and of the ten percent that happen, most of them aren't nearly as bad as we imagined them to be. When we come back from the break, we'll hear one more near death experience. But I want you to really contemplate that around you right now is a powerful group of souls, your loved ones, inspirers, all cheering you on so that you get your money's worth out of living your life

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that I was in a coma. So then I was taken to Waco Hospital in the Dallas Fort WORTHA area and given a team of doctors, one of which who had worked on JFK. Oddly enough, but I was in the coma for five days, and my parents were told to try and inspire my brain to kind of have some stimulation by playing movies. And they were playing my childhood favorite movies, Disney movies at my bedside and Home movies and things. It was from that point that I went into my near death experience and was taken to

the other side. Basically, I found myself on a raft, and the raft was wooden and was floating on what I would call pink clouds. And in front of me was who I knew to be, Jesus because that's the faith that I grew up in. And on my left there was a man who was young and thin and bald with long brown robes. I didn't know who he was, but he felt familiar and comfortable and safe to me, almost as if he were protecting me, and felt completely

loved just before moving into this place of light. So I went from the raft into this place of being surrounded by white light, bright light, but also colors, and imagined like wonderful, beautiful colors all around music playing. That was short lived, because at some point I felt this light around my body, which wasn't my real body but was my light body. It felt warm and weighted and beautiful and kind of like a comforting hug, right, and

then I just melted into and became the love. Everything else went away and I was just completely one with this light and this love. It was the most beautifully profound experience of my life. But I can't even say it was an experience I had in my life, because it was an otherworldly experience. And then I don't know

how long I was there. I don't know how long I was connected, but I was taken back to the wrath, and it was on that raft that I was connected with so much information about not only my path, but our path as humans and why we're here. And then I could see the trajectory of my parents and my family. So many things came into my knowing. But I remember knowing that every person here has a purpose, everyone has

a plan. We are divinely guided and led, and our goal is to surrender to that and trust that and have faith, and also to connect with our higher self so that we are living in the greatest good. And I remember again recognizing that all the things that we spend our mind thinking about, like we spend our time thinking about on earth, all these worries and concerns and stresses and fears, they actually get in the way of

living our purpose in our life. I remember thinking, when I came out of my comment and I was living again, I would have these thoughts and they would come into my head, you know, maybe fear or unworthiness, and I would instantly know how to let it go and that it didn't matter and it was false. And I lived

in that knowing for so long. And I think that in this time especially, people will have these fears and they will hold them back because as we connect fear with thoughts, we actually create more of that in our lives, because what we think is our reality. So that was a really big piece for me. Also, this living and gratitude was a huge part of this experience. I came out knowing that every night as I went to sleep, I needed to give thanks for this opportunity to be here.

Where there is gratitude, there's no room for fear, there's no room for hate or discord. It is all love. When we really feel that and we feel the expansion of our heart and we give complete gratitude forgetting to be here, that is when we are truly connecting to the higher self and to source. So that was another big piece and I recognize and have since had many messages. I've been working with what I call angelic or light

beings ever since I came out of my coma. I will see the places and around people and informations and their comfort and the guidance that they give is true and real, that we really are protected and guided. And after receiving all this information, which I was given the choice that I could either stay there or I could live, and I remember on some level wanting to stay because I loved the connection and the love and everything else disappeared.

All my human worries about everything didn't matter right, and I recognized on that raft that they didn't matter anyway, that so much that we think about and spend our time giving energy to is not what it's about. It was then that I was taken into a transformative immersive music experience. As I chose to stay and to come back, I remember telling them I want to use music for healing,

and I explained I want to be a healer. And it was at that moment that I felt an overwhelming surge of gratitude that I got to come back and I got to live, and I knew that it was a gift, and I knew that I had something to give, and I knew I had purpose, And that's when I

was taken back into the darkness. But the darkness that I went into was a warm darkness, a comforting darkness, and I saw a music staff in the distance, just the staff, and every note was a different color on the staff, and I could see the notes moving, but I couldn't hear anything. So I just watched it, and it got closer and closer and closer, bigger and bigger, until I kind of moved through the staff and it

was gone. But then in its place it was a very very faint sound, almost inaudible, almost untouchable, like a little pinprick of light. I point to the lower right, That's where I kind of visualize it, tiny pinprick, and I focused so hard on that music. I just pulled it in as much as I could. It came into my mind until it was booming in my head, and I opened my eyes and there I was in the ICU. A nurse came running over, and then I slipped back

out of consciousness. But the next thing I remember was I was being moved to a regular bed. They were calling it a miracle. They said that no other person in the state of Texas had ever survived that type of head injury at that state that I was in, other than one other child. She was fourteen, but she was disabled for life, and then I knew that all the information I received on that raft, which was that we all have purpose. It's the most vivid memory I

have in my life, and now I live. Everything that I do has to go back to that experience. Does it relate, does it connect to that experience on the other side, and how can I help others connect to that as well.

how her life has unfolded. She's put together a book called Waking Up in Heaven, Living with Purpose through After Life Wisdom. Ellen, like any others, have turned their lives into making a difference, and Allen is passionate about helping people tap into our own inner wisdom, creating our own reality. And she's big into music. I'm excited to read her book and just see how music plays a part in connecting us to our divine selves and to the other side.

This episode has been about fear anxiety, learning from near death experiences so that we know there's a bigger picture and that we are always supported. If there's something you're really struggling with, try to get out of your mind and into action. When we can put all of our concentration on what it is we're doing. Next thing, you know, that thing you fear is a thing of the past, and it is done. One of the craziest things I did to overcome some fear. Believe it or not, I

didn't like dining in a restaurant alone. God forbid me taking a trip by myself. I was given a challenge. I chose to take it, and I booked myself a flight to Hawaii. The girl that didn't want to go out to eat by myself was suddenly going on a four day vacation by myself. I brought my guidebook, I rented a car, checked into the hotel, and something miraculous happened. I started meeting people who became friends for life, all

by me taking a chance. What did I realize that all of us human beings were just the same for people with our own hopes and fears and dreams, that if we can get out of our own heads, set that ego aside, and look into someone's eyes, we realize their divine souls too, and that we're never alone. I want to do a shout out to some super fans. Ramona from Germany has emailed and messaged me often. She's one of the show's biggest fans. She says, a shout out to Beth and Colorado, and last a shout out

to Richard in Elkhart, Indiana. Richard recently wrote me, having heard about Shades of the Afterlife on Coast to Coast AM when George Nori mentioned it. Richard has listened to all episodes of Shades of the Afterlife in forty five days. He, you may agree, is a superfan. So Richard, thank you so much for listening. And if you two are a superfan, even if it's not listening in forty five days and you've heard all or most of Shades of the Afterlife, I'd love to hear about it. You can email me

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