Episode 191: Afterlife News Today & ‘Spiritism’ of Brazil!

compete with her first husband's dance hers. So my mom's first husband, my brother's father was like a big band leader, and he always was having these affairs with women, and my mom was always sort of.

developing a bacterial infection. She said the whole experience was very scary and was put into an induced coma. She says when she woke up, the first word she said was no. In her experience, God was asking her, do you want to come with us, and Madonna, knowing that her job on Earth was not yet complete, repeated to God, No,

No No. Next, twenty eight year old medium Tyler Henry, star of the Netflix series Life After Death and E Entertainment's mega hit television show Hollywood Medium, has opened up that the process of airing celebrity interviews is not very easy. It's common when doing a reading that a publicist jumps in and says, no, no, no, we're not using that. He says, so much of the evidence that comes through is of a personal nature. Some of the details never

appear on screen. He enjoys doing celebrity readings, but says it's really bad for medium who's trying to provide information that isn't found on Google, and it would be nice for the celebrities to open up a little more about their personal lives. He continues that reading everyday folks carries much less baggage, and that's truly where his heart is.

Tyler says many celebrities still come to him for readings, but for me, he says, most of my readings are done for free, and a lot of those readings are done for terminally ill people. They are my VIPs, and those situations allow me to provide comfort for people who are going to be making their transition. I've met with children before they have passed, as well as their parents. It allows me to really kind of satisfy why I

do what I do in a much bigger way. Kudos to Tyler Henry and any others that are giving back next. Eighty one year old retired comedian, actor and musician Sir Billy Connelly has admitted to previously offending most religions with his comedy, but he has now confessed that he can't

accept that death will be the end of him. Connolly, who was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease and prostate cancer in twenty thirteen, said while he's not scared of death, he does resent the idea of his life coming to an end. I do feel cheated in a way, but it hasn't happened yet, So how can I feel cheated? And who knows? It might be so lovely on the other side that you don't even think about that. I'm sure there's something

after death. I'm sure there is, asked why, he added, I don't know, but in recent years I've just got a knowing that there is. Although Parkinson's has severely slowed down Connolly's physical abilities, he has not lost his sense of humor and humor I hope is the last thing to go next. You may remember the film The Perfect Storm, which told the story of the boat the Gale, a commercial fishing vessel that was lost at sea, with all lives being lost in the Perfect Storm of nineteen ninety one.

The film starred George Clooney, Mark Wahlberg, Diane Lane and Moore and was one of the highest grossing films in the year two thousand. Now, the author of the book The Perfect Storm, Sebastian Younger, has a new book telling his story about what might happen after death. His new book is titled In My Time of Dying, How I Came face to face with the idea of an afterlife.

For years as an award winning reporter, Sebastian traveled to many front lines and frequently put his life at risk, and yet the closest he ever came to death was the summer of twenty twenty, while spending a quiet afternoon at his New England home that he shared with his wife and two young children. Crippled by abdominal pain, Younger was rushed to the hospital by ambulance. Once there, he began to slip away as the blackness set in. He was visited by his dead father, inviting him to join him.

It's okay, his father said, there's nothing to be scared of. I'll take care of you. That's the last thing Younger remembered until he was aware again and was told he suffered a ruptured aneurism and that he shouldn't have survived. This experience spurred Younger, a confirmed atheist raised by his physicist father, to respect the empirical, to undertake a scientific, philosophical, and deeply personal examination of mortality and what happens after

we die. How do we begin to process the brutal fact that any of us might perish unexpectedly on what begins as an ordinary day, he says, How do we grapple with phenomena that's science may be unable to explain, and what happens to a person emotionally and spiritually when forced to reckon with such existential questions. His brand new book, In My Time of Dying is part medical drama, part autobiography, and part inquiry into the mystery of life after death.

The book In My Time of Dying, How I Came Face to Face with the idea of an Afterlife, is available everywhere you buy books, and it's near the top of the charts on the Amazon bestseller list. If you enjoy stories of the afterlife and celebrities and movies about the Afterlife. I invite you to go back to episode number forty four zero of Shades of the Afterlife. Here's

some trivia that you may not know. Famous inventor Thomas Edison, who created some things we can't live without, like the electric light bulb and electric light motion pictures, first to invent the phonograph in eighteen seventy seven. In fact, the first record he ever created was his own voice reciting the nursery rhyme Mary had a little lamb. I bet

you didn't know that. In nineteen twenty, he announced plans to capture a different kind of voice, one that belonged to those no longer living, specifically a spirit phone capable

of talking to the dead. Mark Hartzman, who is a historian and the author of Chasing Ghosts, A Tour of our fascination with spirits and the supernatural, said, aside from the life changing feat of breaking through the Veil, I believe Edison's interest in spiritualism was simply to demonstrate that science, not mediums and Ouiji boards, was the way to do it. In fact, in nineteen twenty, Thomas Edison told American magazine that the methods and apparatus commonly used and discussed are

just a lot of unscientific nonsense. Some believed Edison's supposed belief in communicating with the dead was a joke or a chance to make headlines and capitalize on spiritualism's popularity. But at the same time, Edison had an unusual hypothesis regarding what happens after humans die. The inventor spoke of his belief in the idea of units in a nutshell, one hundred trillion of them make up a human being and keep us functioning. When we die, the life units

move on to someone else. That's another way of saying our energy cannot be destroyed. It's now over one hundred years since Edison was designing this machine to record spirit voices, and although spirit communication is not yet in every household using technology, there's plenty of people using technology to record voices and images of the afterlife. During the break, I'm going to ask you to pack your suitcase, a swimsuit,

suntan lotion, sunglasses. We're going to Brazil, and you'll hear about three mediums who have done extraordinary things to connect with the afterlife. Then toward the end, you'll hear from a mom who's making a difference helping people through grief, and also her unique way of connecting with her daughter KaiA. Let's go to the break and then we'll be back. You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.

people they are seeing and encourage spiritual development. Back on episode fifty three, we spoke to Nikola Farmer, who works with young children with the belief that we are all born naturally psychic. These young children are able to do extraordinary things while blindfolded. They are able to see using the power of their minds. They can read books, play catch with a ball, even do arts and crafts, all

with no vision. Earlier, I told you to pack your bags because today we are venturing to the country of Brazil, known for the Amazon River, the rainforest, Rio di Jannio's carnival, their love for football, food, gorgeous beaches, colorful cities, samba music, and where people grow up believing in the afterlife. I first learned of the religion or belief in spiritism, when my mom and I owned our thirty year catering business

working with race car teams. When my book We Don't Die, a skeptics discovery of life after Death came out twenty twelve, Brazilian race car driver Champion Oznegri told me about his country's belief in the afterlife. He gave me some websites to research and told me that most people grow up believing in life after death. Today, I want to share the amazing works of three Brazilian afterlife pioneers who have done some incredible things. But first I'd like to tell

you about Spiritism. The Spiritist movement began in nineteenth century France with the writings of Hippolyte Revail under the pseudonym Alan Cardick. In his most famous work, The Spirit's Book, Cardick codified the philosophy that would later sweep the world

as the Spiritist movement. While this book and others written by Cardik and his followers provide detailed descriptions of spiritist principles, what appears to be most essential to the movement is the belief that a spirit exists within each human body. They believe the spirit reincarnates into an afterlife body, progressing

towards spiritual perfection. Spiritists also believe in the existence of other life forms in the universe, God as the supreme intelligence, and an afterlife that is physically close to planet Earth. They believe when we pass, we go to a colony of souls that float over the Earth. Spiritism took root in Brazil with the help of Chico Javier, which I would normally pronounce Chico Xavier. He was born in nineteen ten and died in two thousand and two, one of

Brazil's most famous celebrity mediums. We'll be discussing more shortly. Mediums are a critical aspect of spiritism. They can communicate with spirits of the afterlife through seances or other means. Javier, for instance, was renowned for his ability to write letters from the dead to their loved ones. Six of these letters were actually used as legitimate evidence in murder trials. The charisma and popularity of Javier contributed to the explosion

of spiritism in Brazil. Today, Brazil is the most spiritist country in the world, with over six million believers. Spiritism is the third largest religious group after Catholics and Evangelicals. Another twenty million people call themselves spiritist sympathizers, meaning they still belong to their Catholic or Evangelical church, but they also believe in spiritism. In the city of Palmelo, for example,

one in every seven people is a medium. Most spiritists are highly educated, middle to upper class, over ninety eight percent are literate. This can be attributed to the fact that spiritism demands intense personal study and research to be truly understood, as well as a common sentiment that Spiritism is more refined than traditional Catholicism and spiritism does not necessarily conflict with other religious beliefs. Many claim spiritism is

not a religion, but more of a philosophy. They believe that the science of spiritism allows them to understand much of what their religion leaves unexplained. Spiritism is often in the media, making appearances and countless soap operas and television shows, songs, and even a twenty ten Brazilian blockbuster film about medium Chico Javier. Most corporations have a Spiritist association, including magistrates, psychologists, artists,

military and teachers. Spiritism is even taught at public university and has museums dedicated to it. In Brazil, April eighteenth is officially recognized as National Day of Spiritism. Let's talk more about medium Chico Javier, who was known as a psychographic medium. In English, we would call this automatic writing, where he would go into a trance channel the spirit of a deceased person and record their words, often in

the spirit person's own handwriting. Francisco Candido Javier was fondly known as Chico or Chico Javier, and he published more than four hundred of these books from nineteen thirty two until his death at the age of ninety two in two thousand and two. Twenty five million copies of his books have been sold. They have been translated into many languages.

His book No so Lar, also known as astral City, was sort of a spiritual memoir, first published in nineteen forty four, and it's probably the biggest psychographic hit ever. More than sixty Brazilian editions have been printed and over two million copies sold. In fact, a full feature film was made too, that you can find on Amazon. In addition to publishing books, Javier used his ability to record more than ten thousand letters from dead people to their families.

Most often it was grieving mothers who traveled from all over Brazil to visit him in the city of Uberaba, hoping he would channel messages from their children. In these letters, the discarnate spirits typically assured loved ones that there was no need to worry, that they were safe and happy, and that they still loved their families very much. Sometimes the writing was backwards and could only be read with the use of a mirror, and sometimes it was in

a language Javier did not speak. Skeptics who questioned the letters authenticity were usually convinced by the handwriting and the inclusion of intimate details only the deceased could know. Javier's powers were so widely recognized that a few times these letters were accepted as evidence in courts of law. The most famous occasion was in nineteen seventy nine, when teenager Jose Nunes was tried for the murder of his best friend, Mauricio Garcis. The two boys had been playing with a

gun that went off in Nunez's hands, killing Garcus. While criminal proceedings were underway, Garcius's grieving parents went to see Javier, hoping a letter from their son might bring them comfort. It took a while, but eventually a message arrived from Garcius, declaring that his death had been an accident. Neither Jose nor anyone else is guilty, the letter said, and if anyone should ask for forgiveness, it's me, because I shouldn't have been playing around with the gun. I should have

been doing my studying. It concludes, as many such messages do, with an assurance I am alive. Garcius's parents submitted the letter to the presiding judge, who accepted it as witness testimony. An analysis of the letter's signature confirmed that it was exactly the same as Garcis's. The judge admitted the psychographt letter as evidence and moved to acquit Nunez. The jury agreed six votes to one. By the time of this trial,

Javier was famous throughout Brazil. In nineteen seventy one, three quarters of Brazil's televisions tuned into a special live interview with him on the show The Firing Line. It was the largest television audience in Brazilian history. It was planned for only one hour, but lasted nearly three. The audience response was so extraordinary that Javier was invited to do a follow up interview later that year. That one lasted four hours and was watched by an estimated twenty million people.

Of course, not all Brazilians who watched or convinced that Javier could communicate with spirits, but over the years he became so widely respected for his humility and generosity. He donated all of the proceeds from his books to charity and charged nothing for the letters. More than two million people signed a petition nominating him for the Nobel Peace Prize in nineteen eighty one. After our break, I have

a few more words about medium Chico Javier. Plus I'm going to introduce you to a totally different kind of medium and you will be amazed at the work he does, not only giving his proceeds a way to charity, but starting an orphanage. There's a lot more coming up, including I have a free gift for you that I'll tell you about in the last segment. So stay write where you are and we'll continue our travels in Brazil. Will

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know our world is in need of healing. I'd like to share a few more things about Chico Javier before we move on to our next medium. Javier, as you remember, was the medium with over four hundred books channeled from deceased people. In addition, thousands of letters came through him and were delivered to loved ones, often in the handwriting of the deceased person. When Javier died in two thousand and two, three thousand people passed by his coffin each

of his two day wake. After waiting in a line that stretched for two and a half miles, more than thirty thousand fans and onlookers accompanied the funeral procession on foot. At the cemetery, a police helicopter dropped rose pedals on the casket. The governor announced three official days of mourning. The country's president described Javier as a great spiritual leader who was loved and admired throughout Brazil and left his

mark on the hearts of all Brazilians. In two thousand and six, when A national magazine polled its readers to select the greatest Brazilian in history, Javier one with thirty six percent of the vote, nearly twice that was received by the runner up race car driver Eraton Senna. In twenty twelve, seventy one percent of voters agreed he was the greatest Brazilian of all time. Javie and his work

lives on. He was and will remain a central and beloved figure, not only in Brazil but throughout the world. Our next Brazilian medium today is Jose Madrado, who is a medium of multiple faculties, a spiritist lecturer, and has visited countries in Europe and the Americas with demonstrations of his unique form of mediumship. Madrado has many abilities, some he's had from childhood, others he developed in adolescence. But he started to paint mediumistically when he was twenty seven

years old. This means with his eyes closed and fingertips on a canvas with oil paints close by, Madrado channels deceased artists and produces works of art in those artists styles and they are completed in just minutes. Did I say his eyes are closed all of the money made benefits his orphanage. The City of Light. Artists that he works with includes Renoir, Monet, van Go, Gogin, Picasso, Panchetti, Portinari,

La Trek and more. I first found out about Jose Madrado from our mutual friend medium Scott Milligan, who you've heard on Shades of the Afterlife several times, who gave me the gift of a painting by Madrado. Scott was responsible for preparing the hotel room Madrado would be staying in at one of his demonstrations, and purchased a vase

of flowers for his hotel room. When Madrado went into trance and channeled the painter Renoir, Scott was by his side, and in just over five minutes, a painting of the exact vase of flowers in his hotel room was created. Madrado had not yet seen these flowers yet apparently Renoir had seen them from the afterlife. I'm thrilled to have that gift of that painting. Madrato describes going into trance

as follows. I put myself totally at their disposal. I do a short prayer and then there is a shock that goes through my spine, and from there I go into trance. I am not unconscious yet I have no awareness of what is going on around me. I don't see things. I always make the comparison of when someone is put under general anesthesia for surgery, all you can hear is things from far away, so it's more like that.

But I always intend to be with a clear mind. Generally, it's like moments of meditation, when you're lying down in rest time. That's how I feel. As for the orphanage, Madrado has had a passion to help children since he was young. He says, I was a very poortrait, I was hungry. I went through a lot of difficulties. So this established my passion and I said, one day I will do for children when I didn't have the opportunity to do, and I will give them things that I

did not have. An orphanage in Brazil called the City of Light was in need of funding to stay open. Madrado first had the visit from the spirit of the long dead painter Renoir with a proposal to provide funding for the orphanage by having Renoir and other art masters in the afterlife paint through him and for him to sell the paintings. As he put it, he was proposing to transform paint into bread, and he was going to make Madrado a human paintbrush to be used by these

masters to paint their beautiful artwork. This action has been termed psycho pictography or pictography. At first, Madrado was reluctant to accept the invitation because he had never taken any painting course and he did not understand art, but he was soon persuaded because of the good it would do

for the orphanage. Renoirre made it clear to Madrado when they started to work together that even if one cent of the money that came from the paintings was used for anything except service to the poor, the painters would stop working with him. Since then, Madrado has produced a NonStop stream of artwork and is referred to as the Living Brush. Madrato also does sculpture and porcelain paintings through

the inspiration of these artists in spirit. While working full time, he has used his mediumistic gifts to create a model community center. The City of Light now has a staff of twenty two people and two hundred volunteers. Fifteen hundred people a month access for free healthcare, three hundred children receive free education, five hundred families a month engage in cultural activities, and over one hundred homeless people per week are given access to food, clothes, fresh showers, as well

as health care and spiritual support. The City of Light offers free medical, dental, psychologists, and social support to the community. This work is done without government support and is in an area where there is extreme poverty. Currently, Madrado City of Light is facing a new challenge, being threatened to close down unless they comply with brand new fire regulations, costing them many thousands of dollars. In the next segment, I'll include details how you can find out more about

the City of Light. I'd like to read some words from blogger Julianne about her experience with Madrado. She said, Thursday, we had a guest visit by trance painter Jose Madrado from Brazil. In a lecture through his interpreter Marilla, Jose gave a talk on how to connect to spirit, his personal background, and then as he felt his healing guides were with him, he gave a healing to one of the students who was in need. When he was doing this, there was a strong smell of ether in the air.

He said that his guides do that to provide this as proof of them being there. In the trance art session, he went into trance very quickly and started painting. His assistant prepares by laying out all the tubes of paints and utensils around him, and he chooses them as he needs to. She quickly cleans them as he finishes using them and then replaces them for him to use again.

In his art, Madrato channels the old masters and paints and styles from the Renaissance period through to Postmodernism with Impressionists heavily. In his demonstrations. He uses acrylic paints and brushes, scalpels, wide paint brushes like for a house scrubbing brushes, and his fingers. Often he is painting with his eyes completely shut and takes just minutes to complete each painting before

starting the next one. We could smell ether again from time to time during the demonstration, which lasts about two and a half hours, with him in trance for over two hours. When he paints, Madrado stands up with a canvas laying flat on a table in front of him. He starts by dotting some paint on the canvas and smearing it with his fingers or the big paint brush. Then he uses his fingers, small brushes, scrubbing brushes, or

scalpels to finish his work. At the end of the demonstration, all the paintings created were auctioned to raise money for the charitable organization founded and run by him, the City of Light in Brazil. In our next segment together, I promise I will include how you can watch videos of Jose Madrado and the inspirers that work through him doing these incredible works of art. Madrado is only a few years older than me, so he grew up in Brazil

when spiritism was well known. He heard voices. As a child, he was open to the afterlife. Are you beginning to see the difference it would make in a child's life being open to the belief that we are souls having a human experience and that we don't die. When you grow up believing that anything is possible and that you have guides, inspirers, and loved ones working by your side, it might be possible to listen to these words of encouragement.

Most of us, when we're kids. We're living a happy life and then we get shut down, whether somebody tells us we're not good enough or we're not smart enough. It's tough being a kid. But consider how the future would look if on a global scale, people believed in the afterlife raise their children like Nikola Farmer does, letting them know that they have psychic abilities and shows them how to use them. I think personally, the world would

be a much different place. And by the way, I don't mind if you share these episodes to give your fellow humans a little faith, comfort and support. It's time for our break and we'll be back with another story. You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and costco today M Paranormal podcast Network.

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It's about making a difference with others. A lady medium with a lot of integrity that I recently spoke with, so that a medium reading shouldn't cost more than a really good haircut. I like that going forward. The only interviews I will now share with mediums are ones that offer the ten minute money back guarantee. If you're not satisfied in those first ten minutes, you let the medium know the reading comes to an end and you don't pay. I hope together we can make that standard in the world.

It's hard enough to lose a loved one, and it really hurts to be taken advantage of by a medium. The gift I have for you is I created a special web page that you can go to and you can see all three of these mediums, plus Nicola Farmer and the video about the Blindfolded children. You can read some of Chico Javier's words, you can watch Jose Madrado do his paintings, and you can watch the movie I produced on this next medium all at We Don't Die

dot Com Forward slash Brazil again. That's We Don't Die dot Com Forward Slash Brazil. Are you ready to hear our next medium? Drum roll? Please? Oh Sandra, that's not a drum roll, that's your samba music. That's right, I love it. Our last medium is someone we know from episode one. We've heard her EVPs on episode one four seven. It's the extraordinary Sonya Ronaldi, who captures images and voices

from the afterlife. Now, there's no secret that I love this woman, and I love what she does, and I love the passion she has, especially for helping bereaved parents. She's never charged a penny and makes the most incredible difference. Again, she grew up in a country that believes in spiritism. I have the entire documentary for you on Sonia Andaldi at We Don'tdie dot com forward Slash Brazil. Basically, I heard about Sonya back in two thousand and two at

an afterlife seminar. They said there's a woman in Brazil who will meet with parents with a tape recorder and a second recorder that has some garbled human voices on it. There's an empty chair for the child in spirit. The parents ask questions of the children, the recorder records the garbled voices, and when the recording is played back, the

children are speaking back to their parents. Back in twenty eighteen, I got to meet Sonya in person and now only to find out she is working with cameras and video and recording things like a blank television screen or steam or static that is being projected into a clear object. After seeing her work and having my dad's picture and my ex boyfriend's picture who's now in spirit both come through in pictures we do not have of them alive. I was sold on her work. A shout out to

Robert Lyon, who made this documentary film. My words on this episode will not do Sonya and Naldi justice, So I hope you take me up on my offer. Not only is the documentary film there for you, but also you can see of her latest work. You may be left with these people are extraordinary. What difference can I make?

I'd like to play for you a few words from a mom who, after her daughter died, decided to do her own investigation, and she created a small YouTube channel helping other folks who are grieving and giving her advice to connect with the afterlife. She gets the greatest evidence that her daughter is still around when she's taking a bath. Here's her words.

after Kya has passed? And my response was yes, We've all had quite a few of these experiences with Kaya, and they've given us sometimes a lot more comfort in the journey. I think some people who might experience something known as an after death communication might dismiss it as just in their imagination. At the very beginning after Kya died, everything was very chaotic, but if I was able to get away from the chaos enough, I would feel her presence with me. So I got away from the chaos

by taking baths. I think I was taking four or five baths a day. Every time I took a bath, I could feel her presence with me, and I would just talk to her and I felt very comforted that she was still there. One evening, I took a bath and I couldn't feel her presence, so it was perplexing me. The next day, I got a call from Kaya's best friend's mom who told me that her daughter felt Kaya the evening before. So when I could not feel Kaiya, her best friend could feel Kya. Since then, we've also

had very vivid dreams. They're not your typical dream. We didn't wake up and have the memory of the dream fade away. It's still as very clear in our minds, these dreams that we've had where we've been able to be with Kaya and the dream we were still aware that she had died and we were able to do things with her, have conversations with her, watch her play, watch her have joy again. And I would say for me, these dreams have been the most comforting after death communication

that I've gotten from Kya. We've also had some things around the house. She was banging and clanging around in her room for a good three months after she died. That seemed to stop a couple of weeks ago, but it was very very clear that there was nothing in her room that could have made those noises. We've also had some things with electronics going wonky around our house.

My husband, who I would say, before all this has happened, was the most skeptical among us of things like life after death and the eternity of a soul, But he's been the one who's had the most experiences with her. He has seen her a lot, He's heard her voice tell him things like I love you, Tell Mom, I love her. Tell KRN, I love her. So he's had the most experiences and he is no longer a skeptic.

I think the most interesting things that we are attributing to after death communication that we've experienced were at her memorial. So we had her memorial outdoors by this creek she always used to love to go to and play in and walk through, and near the end of her memorial, it was like all of her friends were suddenly called

down to play in the creek. It was just this mass exodus from the memorial straight to the creek, and then we saw a hawk circling over her friends a couple times and then perching and just watching the friends play. So we feel like that was Kaya calling them to go play in the creek and have some moments of joy after her memorial, which was very hard for all

of them. Kaya was a kind of kid who kept friends around for years and years and years, and these are people that she had known for a very long time and it was a very hard loss for them. So to see them able to experience that joy, we're pretty sure that was Kaya's doing. After her memorial, we went to spread her ashes in a spot outdoors at night, and a very dear friend of mine saw her first shooting star of her entire life life the moment we spread the first part of her ashes. We also believe

that that shooting star was another sign from Kaya. It was not a night with a meteor shower, it was not great clear sky conditions to see things, but she was able to see her first shooting star. Those are the experiences that we've had. Many people who have lost someone have similar stories, and I think many more people possibly experience something similar but dismiss it because they don't believe it could be true. They give us peace and

help us move on. If any of you out there are skeptics and someone is sharing an after death communication experience with you, maybe it's a good idea to just express that you're happy that it's given them such peace and leave it at that, instead of trying to talk to them about why it might not be true, why it might just be in their head. But anyway, that aside, if you have lost someone dear to you, my heart goes out to you, and I hope you can feel the love you have surrounding you.

are still around. They're cheering you on and you will see them again. As a reminder, go check out the page I created for you, we Don't Die dot com forward slash Brazil. My friend, you never know what's possible when you believe in the afterlife, and that's something we can learn from the stories we've heard today. So believe

and miracles may just show up on your doorstep. I'm Sandra Champlain and from the bottom of my heart, thank you for listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast am Paranormal podcast network.