Episode 184: The Dream Gate

On each episodisode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know that our loved ones have survived physical death and so will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. We've spoken a lot in the past about dreams we have at night of our deceased loved ones. You know those dream visitations also lucid dreaming, getting into that very real space and inviting your loved one in. Dreams of our loved one are so comforting. But today we're going at a

different angle. This is in that time between just waking up or just falling asleep and being awake and inviting our loved ones in through the dream gate. Today you'll meet doctor Janet Pete A Latto, who is a psychologist and has given her life to the dreaming world. She holds two doctorates, including one in trans personal psychology, where she studied with doctor Stanley Kripner, a world renowned dream psychologist. Through her writing, she offers a glimpse of the inner

world that we can access through our dreams. Let's meet doctor Janet.

my life. It is the dream gate that basically gives me life. Most of us look at our lives and say, we get up in the morning, we go to work, we see, feel here, touch and taste everything around us. We communicate with our physical world, but we're only half awake.

What I see in the physical world is not enough to seduce me to be here. But when I join my dream gait information all of what I get and I don't mean dream by just putting the head on the pillow, going to sleep at night and perchance remembering one out of the five dreams that we have. Every ninety minutes. At night, we're going to have a dream.

We just don't remember it because we don't wake up, and memories of dream material made at night are not stored the same way as our working material during the day, And so we may get one dream at night we remember, and if we're clever enough, we write it down. I have thousands of pages of dreams from the time I was a child, and those dreams will still have something to tell me, because the superficial of the story of

the dream is not what we need to see. It's what's beneath it, and that's what dream therapy is about. The dream may tell us that there's a particular person in a particular place and particular events, but each one of those is an image, and that image is a doorway, and that doorway brings us to remember something else, until in the end we have this Eureka moment when we say, oh, my goodness, this dream is telling me something that you need to know in your life that you've missed. Do

we only get it during sleep? Absolutely not.

because we're welcoming consciousness all around us. It's very shamanic. What does a shaman do? Or shaman goes into the dream world? What do the Aborigines do? They go into the dream world. That doesn't mean that you put your head on the pillow and go to sleep. If each person in life would only do this, would be aware of they're standing in a grocery store and all of a sudden, they're remembering being a child, and their grandmother is making a cake that they like, and they're sitting

down and they're talking to her. If they would realize that that's a message you're seeing something on a landscape that's not around you, that's not in your physical environment. But you've gone beyond time and space to connect with something or someone that's not in your environment right then and there, and you've put that material down, and of course you begin to analyze it and walk through the doorways as to what it's going to tell you.

Look at all of the generations and millennium that have passed before us, Sandra, They've all gone somewhere and we're going to join them. We're going to connect with every one of those ancestors, and we can do it here and now too. So my life is very much about walking that magical path of the viamistical mystical path. What I see in waking reality is important. We have to pay our bills, we have to pay the taxes, we have to eat. Yes, and I have a chef's degree

as a pastry chef. I went to the French Culinarians and actually moved into the city while I took the coursing. And unfortunately, my first born, my little Jeannette, developed leukemia, and then shortly after, unfortunately, my beautiful son Ignatius passed away with aortic stenosis.

It's a falling consciousness. We're in that garden and there's a tree, and there's wisdom on that tree, and that wisdom is spoken by the snake, the snake that's immortal, that sheds its coat and becomes new over and again, that never dies. And the snake tells us, come, would you like a bite of the apple? But there's a contract if you want that apple. The apple is bittersweet, and if you wish to bite it, the contract is

that you will suffer as well as having joy. You'll see your beautiful life, but you'll also be disappointed in things. You'll have losses, and you'll have gains, all pairs of opposites. Would you like to experience this? And so each one of us that's here has bitten into that apple. And the cooks of the matter is there's always an image of Adam and Eve being escorted by an angel through a doorway through which the grim reaper stands. Death is

by the doorway. And if we understand that that's the hope that death will bring us back to the great Garden of Eden, that's the promise that we're going to be born. But the birth that brings us here, there's another birth that brings us back into the garden. Death is our best friend, saying that our life here as wonderful or as horrible as it can be is all transient.

Every moment is flowing toward our return home. And I can look at this and say, truly, I had an experience which showed me one hundred percent this is what it is. My daughter was ill for five years and she was taken care of in Slow Memorial in Manhattan.

eyes to something great. When my daughter was at the very end and the hospital could do no more for her, they sent her home and they sent me all the injections and everything to do for her, to give her the infusions, and I would wake her up at four o'clock in the morning. I still wake up every four o'clock in the morning, and I would have to attach her medporch to the chemo. But the chemo would only run forty minutes, and I was not given a chas of sailing that I could go to sleep, so I

would kneel on the wooden floor. And it was September because she was in palliative care under me from September through January, and while I was on the floor, I would have my rosary beads with me. I'd just say the one prayer over and over and over and over and just don't think. And that's what I would be doing at four o'clock in the morning, watching the chemo drop.

And suddenly I found myself on the ceiling of the room, looking down at my body that was saying the rosary, my daughter that was getting the chemo, and I heard a voice, and the voice said to me, you agreed to this? Do you remember? And believe me?

Every week she had that infusion that I had to give her a chemo. By the time she passed away, I was totally convinced that there was a truth to that, that each one of us has a pre birth contract. We bite into that apple, but we're given choices of what we're going to experience in life, and then we're sent and usually there's the story of being dipped into the what is a forgetfulness? So if we realize death is our friend because we're going home and we're not home,

we're visiting here, we're visiting. And I remember telling my mother that when I was a child I was visiting, she wasn't really my mother, the family wasn't really my family, and my name is not really Janet because who was I before she gave me that name.

that my mom made me to the funeral, Paula. I still hate Gladiola's.

somebody's voice, speaking and getting energy around them. Was in the middle of the night this time of the year. My husband was an accountant. He was working. I kept on getting up from bed to tell him, come to Betty's working too late, it's too late, too late. And I finally wake up and I think I see him standing by the bay window in our home. And then I realized that it's not my husband, it's not Biggie.

It's my daughter, Jeanette. And I knew immediately that this was going to be very fast because I knew she had passed. She came to me. She was physical. I hugged her and she was warm, and she said to me, don't forget me, mommy. Now we had boxes that we had put together with her toys, and we had only begun to dismiss them and pass them away. And I called my husband to be in the room, and he appeared in the room, and she said to him, thank you, daddy, thank you for saving my pony. And I didn't know

what she was talking about. In the morning, I realized that I was in what was called a hypnopoptic state. You're coming out of your sleep state, but you're not quite in waking reality. And she disappeared in my arms. I said to him, do you remember dreaming last night? Because I knew he hadn't physically walked. He didn't remember anything. I said, it's strange because Jeanetti said, thank you, daddy

for saving my pony. He was very quiet. There was one box at the very end of what we were putting into a big dumpster, and I said him, don't even bother to open it. I can't bear to look at these toys. He looked at me sheepishly, and he said there were two things I saved. I said, what did you say? He said, I don't know what I saved. I said, wait to put them. He said, I left them in the garage. I didn't want to hurt you, so I didn't bring them in. He brings it in

and one is my little ponies. With the little ponies. Now, the connection of Jeannette in the middle of the night, giving me substantial confirmation that she's there telling me something I don't know. He doesn't know that he actually has to go out in the garage and get That was an amazing experience. But at the same time, my husband lost a brother when he was only twelve years old, and he really never recovered. I had a hard time speaking to him about it. He played the accordion he

never played for me. His life changed. It was just the two boys. The brother was much older, he was nineteen when he passed away. I never met him, obviously. And at the same time that this happened with Janette, I'm in my office which was next to my husband, and my brother in law walked in to my office and I knew it was he because I know what he looks like. And again, Sandra, I was not looking for him. I said to him, don't you tell me

that you love Iggy because I know that already. I said, give me something so that I know you're really here. So He opened up his hand and he showed me a photograph of my husband dressed in a baseball outfit. I said to him, no, absolutely not, I know he doesn't like sports. This is impossible. So he disappears. I went into my husband the office right next to me, and he said to me, I don't know what to tell you, he said, you know me. I said, did

your brother ever dress you up for Halloween or what? No? No, no, he knew nothing. A couple of months later, Iggy's best friend walks into the office. He has an article from our Staten Island newspaper and the article reads, Ebitttsfield's last game had Island flavor, and in the very center is a picture of my husband in a white baseball outfit, the same picture that his brother showed me months before. Now, I didn't see the entire group. He only showed me Iggy.

Iggy recognized immediately from what I had told him.

He said, you have somebody from the other side coming to tell you and show you a picture of something that happened after they died. And that picture is not going to show up in a local newspaper until a couple of months later. It's probably not even an important piece. It's a filler. This is not really news. This is something that happened years ago.

experience themselves, which is what my therapy is about. People will come to meet at a grieving and I bring them into dream through what I call the lucid waking dreaming stage, and that state brings them communication from ancestors near and far, because we're related to everyone, but dreams, dreams make us live, and they make us move through tragedies, understanding that it's just another experience. It's like my daughter dying. It was such a gift to have her, and I'm

going to join her. She hasn't gone anywhere that I'm not going, but the communication from her was amazing the same way for my grandfather. And I've been lucky because I've had many others. I don't want to spend the whole time on them, but it just to give people a little sight and hope that it is in dreams and not just head on the pillow at night, but in waking dreams that they can connect.

dream world is to so much. But I know so many of us want to connect with our loved ones. Would you offer any tips as to how we could get into that lucid world ourselves and know that loved ones are with us.

lucid dream one we're awake. A shaman has a lucid dream, he's awake, he's aware that he's in another state. A medium, especially a trance medium, is aware that they're in another state unless they're so deep in trance and then they're not aware, and that one is not really the state we want to be in.

About twenty minutes to a half hour before you need to get out of bed, and then don't move and say to yourself, where was I?

the side. I'm in the family house. This is my maternal background, and Grandpa is there, and what's happening here? Grandpa is transitting because the next thing I see, we're still in a bedroom, but it's my bedroom and Grandpa's sitting on the bed, hugging me and talking, how do I feel fabulous? Okay, so you're going to say you just made that up. Yes, I made it up by faculty of my imagination, the faculty which allows me to make images. The image is important. Without that, we wouldn't

know where to go in the morning. We wouldn't even know where we were. People that have alpheimis, that's part of the problem. There's no connection to these images anymore. They don't know anything. When people say to me, it's just my imagination. Cut out the just and say, yes, it's my imagination and thank god I have it because it's the tool that allows me.

There's absolutely no question. It's giving us the hope in something that should come, and it's opening up another doorway for me. And that doorway was in another dream that I had where when I came to the door, there was writing, and I knew the writing was the Kabbala, but I don't know the Kabbala, and I'm Loucid in the dream, and I'm saying I wish they would have given me hieroglyphs because that's what I was studying. I

could read hieroglyphs. But then I pushed the cock webs away and pushed the door open, and a voice from inside literally said, we don't die. The next day, my husband's friend and my friend as well, a Jewish man had passed away, and I called his wife and I said to her, and that dream was for you, because the door had the writing of the Kabbala, which is from Judaism, I said, And the message from Mark was

to tell you we don't die. So notice that from a little girl standing by a bed with a grandfather that's passing, to a little girl moving to sitting on her own bed an hour after the incident with the grandfather, who now is quite alive and vibrant. Sir Isaac Newton, one of the most brilliant brains that ever came on the planet, spent years decades in alchemy looking for the truth. And he wasn't looking to make gold. He was looking for the enlightenment of knowing. And what is that memory

that we've lost. The memory is that we think everything that's around us is real. The truth is nothing around us is real. My hard desk that I'm banging on, that's going to disintegrate. Someday it's going to fall apart. But what I see in the imaginal realm is internal, which is why we can go past, and we can go present, and we can go future, because it's all there outside of time and connecting like that. So in the morning, when you wake up, whether or not you're

remembering the dream, you do what I just did. If you don't remember the dream, what's popping into your head?

a dream in his whole life. He was in his sixties, and I said to him, we're going to do this. I said, I'll help you but you have to make up a dream every morning when you wake up. And for weeks he came, and every morning, every time he came, it was a made up dream, until one day he came and said to me, I didn't make up a dream for today. So I thought, okay, Al, that's fine, not a problem. He said, no, I actually had one. So that's one of the ways that you can begin

to have a dream. Also, you can dream incubate, so that before you go to bed at night, sit there and if someone just passed, or at somebody's anniversary or somebody's birthday, and you say it because you miss them, actually work yourself up into teas, be emotional about it, admit how you feel, and then pad it in paper or hand to tablet and write down I want to dream.

I want to connect with this person and ask them a question and not a yes and no answer, something you would like them to help you with in life. Show me like I was with my brother in law that I had only met twice, to say, show me something that's confirming, tell me something that'll give me hope, and then go to sleep. Now, if you have trouble that you think you might not remember the dreams. A little hint is to me, I drink so much tea every day and I'll have two or three cups just

reading my book at nights, and I don't mind. I'm going to wake up during the night to your Nate. And one of the things is you wake up, you're going to wake up at the tail end of one of those dreams and you're going to remember it. And so I've been known to write as many as five dreams a night. So you can do that if you're willing to wake up and record the dreams, that will help you. If that's not working, we can do the waking lucid dream. And this is when we do what

the Shamans do. We dedicate ourselves to the harmony of the universe. We don't want to see anything that's going to be in any way invasive to anyone or hurtful to anyone. Never then we ask that there's a guiding spirit that will be with us, and this can show up as anything. It could be a grandmother, grandfather, could be a relative, dear friend and someone that in.

be able to see them. We close our eyes, soft music, something that's going to lull us, or just the quiet breathing in, breathing out, breathing in, breathing out, and then asking to be brought to a memory, a memory of something with the beloved. And what we tend to notice is the places that we go shift there's something in it that we didn't see before. Perhaps there's a painting

on the wall that we don't remember. In the room there's another room or a closet that we don't remember, or something on a table that's there, and we begin to communicate in our mind. We start a conversation sitting at a table of the questions or what we wish to say to this person that maybe we didn't have time to say. I often have people grieving and they'll come to me, and there was an argument, and somebody passed away and they did not have the time to

put an end to that argument. So this is the time to do it. And then they come back and they record and write everything that they saw because there's little details in that vision that will give them the answers. And often when you're beginning on your own, which is why people go to people like me, you need somebody to help you. It was called young working with people for years, each image opens up to something else that

you didn't think of. So that dream that you may wake up, or even with the waking time, when you're thinking of someone that you want to be with, you to go through the gate. You imagine a gate or a door, maybe the house where this person lived, a table where you're going to sit in a conversation. You look for all the details of things that are in that because each one will open up to a memory that will tell you something else, and all of a sudden you'll be able to say, oh, my goodness, I

didn't think of that. It's called mnmnieces. I didn't remember that. I didn't think of that. That makes me feel so good. That shows me this person is here. And sometimes it's only something little.

She said, My children don't even know that.

body experience. But it's all dream. So I tell people, if you're not making the dreams at night happen, if you're not getting up and making up one in the morning and realizing that making up that dream like what I just did with my grandfather is important and perfect for Grandpa to come forward for everybody today because that message was for everyone. We don't die, and that's the message that you give. But if that's not what happens, then you have to give time to it. It's the

via mystica, the mystical path. You have to be willing to be open, and you have to realize that that ridiculous dream that seems to be so totally crazy is not crazy at will.

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we go somewhere else. I was at a funeral that I wrote the eulogy for one of my best friends, and her mother died when she was like I think, six years old. She had an aneurysm. So this girl it was a tough life. But it was her stepmother that passed that I knew, and certainly that this girl grew up with. But as she was presenting the eulogy for her stepmother, her real mother was there and I saw the real mother, but this is not the real thing.

Next to her, there's another woman, and this other woman is not the woman who died. But she's telling me I was second mother. And again here I am saying, I know you weren't. Irene who died was the second mother. We came out of the church and I told my friend and she smiled and she said to me, you didn't realize that, she said, but that was my grandmother. She was my second mother. My grandmother took care of me for years before my father remarried, and I didn't

know that. So again, these are all substantial to tell people. Now I'm sitting in a church awake, totally awake. I'd be some witness in court, that's for sure. They wouldn't be able to look at me and know where I was seeing what. But it's all to confirm that there is a life.

at least a week that I'm on with classes. It's all about people going in on their own and having experience it then sharing it.

and passing and not true. So realize in life what we think we're seeing is an illusion half the time, and what's hidden is beneath everything we see the same way that when we look. I have my tarot cards, and I remember when the senior editor look the images all put together and said to me, every card is filled with all images. It's not a typical terot, which some people hate because they want a typical tarot.

of the times when you knew you loved them. In fact, sometimes you might look at it, it might be a ball and other times, like I remember being at Authur Finlay and using that card with a couple of people and for one woman, I said to her, no, it's an apple. It's the apple from the fairy tale from snow White, I said, And it's the evil witch and it's snow White having to leave home because it wasn't safe. I said, there was something in your childhood that wasn't safe.

And she said to me, yeah, my father was abusive and she had to leave. And of course the card that was the onion turned into an apple for me, and a rotten apple at that brought me a fairy tale. And that fairy tale was right on for what this woman had a self in her life. So you see what I'm saying. That's what I mean by an image being doorways. The onion brought the door of the apple, the apple was rotten, the wicked queen looking in the mirror, and then snow white running away. It always fit.

on their back. But there's clouds in the sky, but a rainbow is about to appear, And so it is certainly appropriate for anybody who's suffering the loss of a beloved. They're sitting on the stone in the middle, with the waters of the unconscious floating around them, the sun and the moon on either side. It's cloudy day. They've had losses, and I've had people around me now with new losses. But it's showing you that there's something good coming. There's

a rainbow in the clouds now. It's the only one that you look at. And you go to bed at night, and then in the morning you either make up the dream, Like I said, where were you, what were you doing?

know that unless we join with the dream. Consciousness, And as call Young used to say, if all we do is look to the waking, rational world, we're not awake. So don't we want to be fully awake? It's only by going in dream.

The water is swirling around her, the bear is banging on the door of the booth and the phone rings. She picks up the phone and it's a deceased husband. He's babbling on, not listening to her, being frightened all of these eyes are on her as though there's all these beings around her, and they're just smiling, and she's terrified. And she finally gets so upset with her husband because she's asking him for help and he's just being nice and kind, and she just wants to communicate with her.

She wakes up terrified, so she brings me the stream. She say, it's the worst dream I've ever had. I said to her, I have to agree with you. It's a superlative dream, probably the best stream that you might ever have. First of all, the waters are the waters of the unconscious. You are not knowing how to swim in these waters. That's why they are swirling around you like a great tsunami. You're getting ready to drown in them. But the waters of the unconscious are trying to bring

you a message, and the messenger is that big bear. Certainly, in the Native American tradition, the bear is the healer, and the bear wants to heal you. So you get yourself in a box. But the box is still a box of communication. And all of those eyes that are around you are all the eyes of the ancestors that really want to help you to see listen to the communication.

They've got you boxed in. You're in the waters that are of the unconscious, and the communicator wants to give you a peaceful message, telling you do not be afraid, don't worry. I'm here for you. I can always communicate. But you're so excited and you wake up. Now why were you excited and upset so that you'd remember that your husband communicated with you in the dream, Because otherwise, when we have a pleasant dream, there's no reason we

wake up. But when we have a terrifying, frightening, horrifying dream, we wake up, and that's when we really know something important, not necessarily bad, often good. And her whole life turned around realizing, yes, he was able to communicate through that dream and through that box of communication. So your mom's dream, the fact that he's trying to communicate and that there's anger, first of all, means you're going to wake up remembering this. I want to shake you up, and second of all,

I'm here. I want to let you know, and you're not angry. When you pass over, the human emotions like that are gone. So I often say in any of

the mediums that I'm in their circle. Know this that if they're present venting somebody that's mad over something, angry over something or whatever, they're giving the imprint of what that person was here not on the other side, we all come to manifest a certain aspect that's important for the balance of the universe, and everything has to be here so those of us who've come to carry our weight of sorrows are balanced by those who have the joys.

I look and say, every time I cry, someone else is going to smile and laugh.