Episode 144: WEIRD Adventures with C. Eric Scott!

to face conversation. You are going to hear that conversation soon. But first, right up front, I want to tell you about a weird experience I had while Eric was here in town. All right, listen to this, I, your humble host, was recently kicked out. That's right, kicked out of a celebrity event here in Las Vegas. Can you believe that? You know what a nice, courteous, respectful man I am, and yet I was kicked out. So before I tell you this story, let me ask you to guess who that celebrity might be.

Oh okay, are you ready? Here's what happened recently. Laren and I were hanging out on a Friday night with Eric in a nice casino on the outskirts of Vegas, and when we got there earlier in the night, we had seen these generic nondescript signs here and there saying filming in progress. But I saw no actual indications of any filming, and so we just sort of ignored the whole thing. We had a full night of gambling, and then we went to a restaurant to get some food

to go. At that point, it was after one in the morning, and as we were actually walking out of the casino on our way to leave with our to go food in the bags, this random young man just ran up to us, excited as heck. This guy was probably in his twenties, he had a goateee, and he just showed us his phone and exclaimed to us, we are just completely complete strangers. He said, look, I just got a picture with Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan and Dana White are over in the high Limit section right now,

and this guy was flipping out like he'd met Santa Claus. Now. The high Limit section was right there next to us, and I said, Joe Rogan is in there, and he said, yeah, yeah, he's taking pictures with everybody now. If you don't know, Joe Rogan has one of the most popular podcasts in

the world, and he is a controversial figure. A lot of people don't agree with his views, but I've always enjoyed his interviews, and I think he's a person who stands up for free speech because he has maintained his independence even when a lot of the legacy mainstream media has tried to censor him. So whether or not I agree with everything he says, I admire that he is a champion for free speech. And Dana White is the man in charge of the UFC the Ultimate Fighting Championship.

Now that's that's cool, But I'm personally, I'm just really not much of a UFC guy. So I told Lauren and Eric, well, if Joe Rogan's right in there, I'd like to pop in to the High Limits area and just say hello to Joe Rogan. And neither Lauren or Eric wanted to go, so they held my food and I said, okay, I'll be back in just a little bit.

So I walked into the High Limits area and there was a room toward the back that had two men in suits standing at either side like they might be guards possibly, And I figured Joe Rogan might be in that back room, and so if they didn't want me there, these guys in suits would just stop me and tell me they didn't want me. But but they just smiled. So you know, I just walked right in, and sure enough there was Joe Rogan and Dana White standing in front of a card table watching a game with a

small crowd around them. So it was pretty cool right off the bat to see them in the flesh. They looked exactly like they do on TV, even though I must say they're quite a bit shorter than me. And there there was one guy I saw in the corner who was filming stuff, but that was it. I mean, this did not look at all like an actual TV set or anything. Goodness knows. I've been on a zillion TV sets, and it just looked to me like they

had possibly some bets down and they were gambling. I don't know what exactly was going on, so I just stood there and watched for a few minutes. It really didn't look like much was going on at all. Frankly, there were all these intimidating looking men in dark suits standing around, but I thought maybe they were just like casino security or something, since I presumed if Joe Rogan and Dana White were there, maybe they were betting, you know,

some big stakes. Perhaps I don't know. Nobody's said anything. There was nothing to indicate at all what was going on. So at one point Joe Rogan didn't have too many folks around him, and he was just kind of looking at the table. So I figured i'd say hello, and I said, mister Rogan, I'm Joshua Warren and I enjoy your podcast and I want to thank you for standing up for free speech. And he shook my hand and said thank you, and you know, he was cordial, and

that was it. And so, you know, then some other people came up and started talking to him. And I continued watching this whole scenario because again, it didn't look like that there was like like a TV shoot going on, and I was kind of curious as to what was happening, and he was just chatting with people, kind of knocking around. It didn't look to me like he was working. So at some point Dana White walked to the other side of the room and most of the people followed Dana White.

So now there were even less people around Joe Rogan. Well, of course, I had been on my way out the door to begin with, you know, heading out with with Lauren and Eric, when I realized that Joe Rogan was even there, and I was thinking about, like, well, Lauren and Eric are waiting for me outside, like, what's cool?

What's he doing in there? Come on, Joshua. So, I mean, I was kind of in a hurry and I needed to run, but you know, I figured I would just ask Joe Rogan one more question, actually just a question. I had to ask him anything, but I just figured i'd ask him a question before I left. I mean, he was standing right there in front of me, a real human being, just like any other normal human being in a casino. And I said to him, quote, I host a podcast for Coast to Coast AM. Would you

be interested in being interviewed? End quote? And as soon as I said I work for Coast to Coast AM, a guy in a dark suit began stepping between me and Joe Rogan and he said something smart You're like, that's it, and Rogan said no. And as soon as Rogan said no, another man in a suit stepped between me and Rogan, and the men in suits told me to leave and showed me the door. And even though Joe Rogan did not ask me to leave, he watched this happen and he did not say a word about it.

And I mean, you know, once he said no. I would have just said okay, I understand, thank you, and that would have been the end of it. They didn't have to kick me out of the room. Though to say that was an overreaction is an understatement. So apparently saying I was with the media was a big no no. I guess.

you must make it equally available to all. That law exists because if you have an area with the machine and you say, hey, that's Joshua's machine, only Joshua gets to play it, well, then guess who's gonna eventually hit the jackpot one day? Joshua is all right, So that is a law on the books. But then there are also laws saying like casinos can ban you from the property if they don't like this or that. But again, I don't know who these people were. These fellas never

even identified themselves. I had no idea who they were, but regardless, I was ready to leave anyway, And it really wasn't that big of a deal to me. Like you say, all I did was ask another human being standing next to me whether or not he would be interested in being interviewed on my show, and this is the reaction I got from those around him. So of course,

without hesitation, I left that area. I even gambled a little bit on the other section of the high limits room with no problem, and then I emerged to tell Lauren and Eric, well, I met Joke Rogan. I shook his hand. We had a friendly exchange. But when I ask if he would consider being interviewed on my podcast, the guys in there kick me out. Lauren said, I'm so glad I didn't go in there. I would have been horrified. And I said, well, look, I'm not happy.

You know, I'm miffed. That was uncalled for, and honestly it left a bad taste in my mouth. But when we come back from this break, there is a twist ending to this story. I just can't go anywhere and have a normal life. Weird things just follow me wherever I go. Well, you know what, I am always coming up with new and interesting offers and products and freebies

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Adia tat dozume. So so we're, you know, we're we're walking out of the casino, of course, and I looked back and I thought, you know, I don't hold it against Joe Rogan since he did not personally kick me out, but I do think if it had been the other way around, if I had been in his position, I would have told these guys not a okay, you don't have to throw him out. But anyway, you know, I

didn't know. I didn't know the big picture, I didn't even know what the heck was going on, and so you know, I left pretty confused and kind of ticked off. So now here, I guess, is the twist ending. Perhaps, So this whole thing that I just told you about happened on a Friday night. Technically it was like a Saturday morning, because this is like, you know, almost two

o'clock in the morning, Saturday morning. So the following Sunday I checked the news and found out that that very next day after my experience that Saturday, Donald Trump had popped up as a surprise at UFC to ninety. That's the big fighting event right down the road in Las Vegas, and Donald Trump was with Dana White and Joe Rogan

and all of these other celebs were there. And then I realized, oh, there was a very good chance that the guys who kicked me out of the room the night before were Secret Service agents because they were preparing for this big Trump event hours away that was being kept a secret with these two guys that I was with, Joe Rogan and Dana White, and for all I know, even Donald Trump may have been nearby. And if I had known that Joe Rogan was in that room as

part of a political event. Perhaps I would have never entered because throughout my life, whenever I have come into contact with the Secret Service and the circle of individuals who surround presidential figures, regardless of the party, it's always dark and negative. There's like this aggressive cloud and paranoia, and I just want no part of it. So I guess the bottom line is that I guess you again. To recap, I was already ready to leave. I was

walking out the door. An excited stranger ran up and said, Hey, Joe Rogan's in there. Look he's meeting people and taking pics. So I went in there and ended up having this experience where I was kicked out? Why did that happen to me?

we met, and he now lives in Washington, DC. For more than two decades, we have worked on so many paranormal projects I truly cannot remember them all. We camped at Brown Mountain many times looking for the mysterious lights. We made the video report about the White House ghost Photo. We made the video report about Oufos and Puerto Rico. We traveled the country just the two of us, making segments for an entire season of paranormal Paparazzi on the

Travel Channel. We worked on the Warner Brothers horror movie called The Apparition. I mean, the list just goes on and on. And when he recently visited me at my new house in Vegas, we decided to just sit down, relax, and shoot the breeze about some of our wild experiences.

And here, my friends, is that conversation. All right? I'm sitting here in my kitchen, next to my swimming pool, in the warm evening in Las Vegas, Nevada, with my old buddy, mister c Eric Scott, and I think we're starting a bit of a tradition here because when I interviewed Forrest Connor, who was the very first person to be interviewed face to face in my home, which is an extremely rare occasion, we were having a single malt scotch and lo and behold when you showed up, you

brought a b beautiful single malt scotch where you can probably tell we're having it right now tonight we're having it on the rocks with a splash of water to wake it up a little bit. This is Mortlocke single malt scotch whiskey, aged twelve years. Well, what a gift. Welcome to my kitchen, mister c Eric Scott. Cheers, Yes, thank you. Cheers. You know what, when I was in Transylvania. In Romania, they taught me that they say cheers by

saying oh okay, which basically means to your health. It's the same kind of thing, right, So that's let's do the Transylvanian version. Yeah, it's a spooky show man. What a day we've had. You took me and Lauren out for a fantastic dinner at a fine restaurant. We even went out for some ice cream afterwards.

especially when you're trying to capture and analyze mysterious things. Right, So now we figured out that we'd known each other for twenty two years, and tell everybody how we met twenty two years ago.

but they never showed him anything. And so we know he kept trying to arrange for us to go and document one of their investigations, and they kept dragging their feet.

So he finally just got tired of dealing with them and sought somebody else out in North Carolina and found your website and and everything about Lemur, your investigation team, and so he contacted you and you guys started a dialogue and we eventually made arrangements to come to Asheville and follow you on an investigation of the Growth Park in where we were, of course looking for the world famous Pink Lady, and you know, we set up meters and different things in the in her famous room there,

which was what the five forty five, and then we just kind of followed you guys around and you know, got all kinds of crazy footage throughout that amazing historic property.

with this? Not exactly. So one night, you and your colleague and the Lemur team and I we were all there, and we had a bunch of people from the mainstream media that were also there documenting our investigation, and we were all crowded in room five forty five, and one of our Lemur investigators said he had some paranormal footage that he wanted to show, and so all the media was standing there with a baited breath, and they're watching his computer screen and he hits the button and a

Hume movie pops up. But it was in night vision, so it looked paranormal for a moment, right, This was a whole movie that was not meant for public display, I don't think. And I've never seen a man scramble and sweat so fast or try to shield the screen for that matter, and maybe five seconds and five seconds

is a long time under such circumstances. Five seconds later we finally get to the orb footage, and nobody said a word, right, yeah, everyone, I think was just trying not to say anything, because what does one say in a moment such as that, where you've just seen, well, some questionable footage has nothing to do with paranormal.

So i have my laptop in front of me and I'm just kind of scrolling down and I'm just looking at TV shows and stuff and like, oh, yeah, Eric was there for that. Eric was there for that. You know, we shot this, we produced this, and even looking at the list, it's intimidating. So we're only going to be able to focus on a few things. But I guess some of the highlights are okay. Well, for one thing, you spent a lot of time with us over many

years camping up at Brown Mountain. We were writing a lot of Brown Mountain Lights research up there, and then as time went on and we started getting more and more opportunities to work with with movies and TV. You also worked with the Apparition movie on for you know, Warner Brothers came and they hired me to be a tech consultant for the Apparition horror movie, and then we

worked together on that. We've done so many TV shows together, but we actually were we created a team, a two man team for the Travel Channel TV series called Paranormal Paparazzi.

They gave us basically a blank check and sent the two of us on this epic journey across the United States of America to just they We had some things that we had to check off the list that we had to do, but you and I wanted to really press the producers, and so we went above and beyond and we just started creating a lot of our own content, right, shooting our own segments as well.

the White House basement. What maybe the ghost of Abraham Lincoln standing below the location of the Lincoln Bedroom, which actually was the war room during the Civil War. But I think some of the more interesting experiences that we may have had dealt with Puerto Rico. Yeah, probably Puerto Rico. Probably. So you know, when we were in Puerto Rico, we

filmed a lot of stuff there. I mean there were times you come down and stay for like a month at a time or something like that, right, right, And I remember one day you and I we were with some friends and we went out to the Laguna Carctahena, the Ufo Lagoon, And as a filmmaker, I want you to tell everybody what you saw out there. This is broad daylight, like in the afternoon, Puerto Rico. What did you see out there over that lagoon where people have had all kinds of UFO Experiences.

metallic sphere that was reflecting. It was really hard to tell because the distance from us that we were seeing it, and we all basically started filming and taking photos and you know, try to get as capture as much of this thing as we could, but it was really hard to tell exactly what it was. And it was again, from what I could tell, it looked like almost a little ball of some sort that was just kind of.

We all got footage of it. If any of you listening, if you want to see the pictures we're looking at right now, go to this website that I created, and it's a little outdated, but it's called eracboproject dot com a r e Cibo Racibo project dot com that happened to us. I got it right here, Eric on February the ninth of twenty fourteen, okay, twenty fourteen, Yeah, Lajas, Puerto Rico. And it lasted for approximately thirty minutes. This

thing was bouncing around. Wow, But you told me that that's not the only time you've seen something that might be a UFO, right.

somewhere I don't remember, but we were. This was when I used to live in Ohio, and a line of thunderstorms had come through the area, so it really cleared up the sky and you know, was really very clear except to the east where you could see the clouds from the storms. Anyway, I was looking up at the sky because it was just so interesting looking, and then all of a sudden, out of thin air, a red looking ball of light appeared in the sky and it

just stayed. It just stayed in place. And as I was watching it, a second ball appeared kind of a little bit further in a line from it, and then a little bit after that, a third, and then a fourth, and I believe even a fifth ball appeared, And these were all little red balls of light that made a perfectly straight line in the sky, and they were all equid distant from there. They appeared to be equid distant

from each other. And so I watched these things around it seemed to be several minutes, and they didn't move or anything. I mean, they just stayed in, you know, in place in the sky, and eventually they started to disappear one by one. And also we were starting to drive out of the area, but we were driving in a part of Ohio that's a fairly flat lot of farm land, so you know, not a lot of objects

to obstruct the view you or anything like that. So I was able to really keep my eyes on these objects for you know, probably at least fifteen or twenty minutes as we were driving through through this area. And so, yeah, I've never never really seen much of anything else like that where these things, you know, I mean, because usually if it's a plane or helicopter or something else, you know, it's got movement to it, you know, some kind of linear movement or whatever. And these things did not move

at all. They just were like hovering in place. But it was just a single like a single what appeared to be a single point of light from each thing. Not like again when you see a helicopter or a plane that have beacons on them that flash. This wasn't doing anything like that.

out there. You're not cynical, you're not doubting that these things are real, but you have a very balanced perspective in terms of like how to rationally view what may or may not be an explanation. And going back to

the White House Ghost photo. Okay, so I've got here that video pulled up that we did, and anybody, if you've never seen this, if you just go to Joshua Pwarren dot com and you click the section called Gallery of the Strange, you're going to find a lot of good stuff there, and one of them is a link that says click here for Warren's special video report on the White House Ghost Photo. Now, without getting too technical, here, when we went around and talked to some of the

best experts photographic experts in Washington, DC. They were saying that, well, maybe it was possible that this could be some type of a long exposure, so that you end up with a picture of these guys who are on a construction site in the baby in the basement of the White House, and just about everybody else is in focus, but there's one guy is out of focus, and so maybe somehow

he was moving or whatever. But the problem is he doesn't look blurry, right, it doesn't look like he was moving, and it's a very well lit construction scene, right, And without having the exact type of camera and film and knowing for a fact the settings that Abby Rowe was using, the photographer, you try to reproduce that those conditions to see if you could create something like this using a long exposure, what would your conclusion. That seems like a

good place for a break. When we come back, we will get his conclusion and we will have the conclusion of this show. You know, this is a good example I think of how that you know, I wanted to go for many years to the White House to investigate the ghost standing there in that photo under the Lincoln bedroom. But now, as I said earlier in this podcast. I mean,

politics has become such a dark business. I don't even know if I want to go into the White House anymore, because if you do that, people are going to assume that you have one alliance or another. It's kind of sad. I'm Joshua Pee Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast SAM Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will be right back. Don't go anywhere. There's more Strange Things coming right up.

streaky or whatever. Sure, you can see through part of them, but usually you can't see through all of them. Like, so the part that was maybe moving, you can, like if they waved an arm or whatever, you'll see a little bit, but the rest of them typically ends up being solid. Well, in the case of that white House photo, that figure appears to be completely translucent and not moving.

a long exposure photograph that we're looking at. You know, we did try to recreate it, and we you know, using some different techniques, and we weren't able to come, you know, up with anything that looked identical or even similar to what they came up with.

and we actually edited the video in Puerto Rico. We were so fixated on the image of the ghost that we put our whole video together, put it out to the world and did not even realize until somebody saw this video that there is another image in the photograph lower down of a workman who looks a little bit blurry because he happens to be taking a step as

the picture is made. And the wonderful thing about that man being there is you can see he is literally in the process of taking a step, and you can see where he began and where he ended, and that exposure could not be longer than two seconds at the most. It is impossible to explain how you could get an exposure longer than two seconds with that man and those positions.

And therefore what that means is that if he is not blurred more than one step, and it proves this image was not exposed more than one to two seconds, a long exposure could not be an explanation for the translucent ghostly figure. Why doesn't this man also look translucent, right, Well, yeah, that would be him. So we really ought to do a follow up video after all these years where we

say here's the update. You know, we literally do an updated version, and I guess I could just do that on my own, just show the picture and just do a voiceover and post it again, because there are a lot of people who don't realize that this was something that I mean, I'll never understand how we overlooked that when we were here. Yeah.

stuff up now, Like when did we do this? When when I got together with doctor Malder and we decided that we were going to start promoting the Wishing Machine project, meaning that we were he was going to start making these and we were going to make them affordable. We were going to start keeping track of people's results and trying to figure out how all this works. Okay, that was ten years ago. Okay according to YouTube, and uh so that video, the very first one, is ten minutes long.

It's been viewed by you know, like thousands of thouars, like eighty nine thousand people, it says, right here, just that one version of it.

for stuff. But with the small field X machine, it's really nicely sized so that you can take it and experiment with it, you know, different places, which is great because it'll even run off of a nine volt battery, which hey, how great is that? So anyway, I bought this thing and decided to go to a casino and

try it, because hey, why not. So I set the thing up, left it in my car in the garage of the casino that I went to, and went in there, probably played for a few hours and ended up ultimately winning a nice jackpot, and it was a taxable jackpot, so I mean, anybody who's gambled in a casino knows that when it's a taxable, I mean, it's a significant enough amount of money that they have to come over and actually hand pay you exactly, so so you know,

I can say that it was a successful test. And then the very next night I went to a different casino, and this time though, because this other casino is very close to my house, I just set the thing up

and left it in my apartment. Basically you know, and because I was like, well, let's see if distance makes a difference, because I also just didn't feel like trying to drag it along put the car anyway, So I put it in the you know, set it up in my bedroom and left, basically using very similar setup to what I had done the night before when I set it up in the in the car. And I'll be damned if I didn't walk out of that other casino with I didn't. It wasn't a jackpot, but I did

end up leaving several hundred dollars ahead. So I mean that's you know, two nights in a row using a wishing machine. I mean that seems like pretty good results. And I noticed that now that you've traveled here to Las Vegas, you packed your wishing machine and brought it with you. I did. I did because why not experiment and one of the greatest, you know, laboratories in the world, right, I mean, you can do all kinds of interesting stuff here in Las Vegas.

what that is. He says, we have it in our handbook because it's not a threat. He says, well, he says, every electronic device is basically just a case with wires in it. My wishing machine is no different. You know. As a matter of fact, we love them because they're even easier to look into. We can do we can see what's in there, So don't worry if you're traveling

about bringing your wishing machine. Unfortunately we are out of time, but I want to thank mister c Eric Scott for all of his years of great friendship and for sitting down for this conversation. Also, he does food reviews on his YouTube channel. Go to c Ericscott dot com. There is no period after the C and that C E R I C S C O T T C Eric Scott dot com. Also years ago, he and I made a comedy in Puerto Rico called The Commodore, starring the

two of us. I gotta warn you the languages are rated and it's it's it's not the greatest movie, but if you want to see it, go to commodoremovie dot com, Commodore movie dot com, Commodore movie dot com. That's it for this edition of the show. Follow me on Twitter at Joshua P. Warren. Plus visit Joshua Pwarren dot com to sign up for my free e newsletter to receive a free instant gift, and check out the cool stuff

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