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On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know that our loved ones have survived physical debt, and so will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. How is your day going today? How are you feeling about life? You know, I've been watching the news the past couple of weeks. I know there are many of us who have experienced grief and then there's been some real scary stuff on And sometimes when you see someone else experiencing grief or worry, it can ignite the grief that you've
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we are to afterlife communications. You've heard that everybody can play piano, right, Some people are just natural at it, and some people it takes years, but of course they can learn through practicing. Our spiritual development is the same way some people find and you've heard these stories of I saw people in spirit when I was a little kid, and then there's others that in their sixties, seventies, eighties end up learning how mediumship works. We all have the ability.
Like I said, they communicate through our feelings and through our emotions. If you're somebody like me who doesn't like to experience the negative ones and might eat something, or some people drink something or others do other distracting things to avoid feeling emotions, I recommend that we all try to sit with those emotions and actually pay attention to them. Sometimes it's our loved ones trying to communicate with us.
Here's something you can do. Take a picture of your loved one, think about them, look at their picture, recall and experience that you had together, and then pay attention to your belly. How do you feel, what's your gut? Say about it? Soak up the laughter, the love, the memories,
and really pay attention to those feelings. When we can activate those feelings, also pay attention to the other thoughts and feelings that come into your mind, paying attention to our feelings, looking at a picture of our loved one, talking to them. It's like knocking on the door saying, hey, will you let me know you're still around, And don't be surprised when all of a sudden other thoughts and feelings and memories come flooding in. It's them just saying
I'm right here with you. Our new medium glasses are also starting. Whether or not you want to be a medium, I think it's so cool for any of us just to learn how our soul communicates. And I tell you you would be blown away by realizing you are not the flow in blood that you think you are, that you are so much more. We really do have divine powers as being a human, and oftentimes we don't pay attention,
but they are there. And I'm sure you've had plenty of opportunities to have instincts intuitions about people and things you just knew. So moving on with our show, The World Lost and the Spirit World Gained. Our wonderful pioneer Bill Guggenheim this past month. I'd like to start by reading his obituary, and several years ago I got an opportunity to talk with him, so I want to play some of his words. Here's the obituary. Sadly, Bill Guggenheim has left this world for the next at the age
of eighty four. He died suddenly and unexpectedly of natural causes at his longtime home in Florida. Bill would not want us to grieve his life, but rather celebrate his exceptional life and joyous transition into the realm of spirit. For those of us who knew him and loved him, this task is much easier said than done. Not to grieve the death of one so very special, who gave so much to so many, often anonymously, asking nothing in return,
is nearly an impossible challenge. Bill was a pioneer in the field of after death communication, also known as ADC experiences. He is considered by many to be the father of after death communication research, based on his project in which he and his ex wife Judy, collected over thirty three hundred first hand ADC accounts and interviewed over two thousand people.
The ADC project resulted in a best selling book entitled Hello from Heaven, publish in two thousand and six, featuring three hundred and fifty three cases now critically regarded as classic work. Hello from Heaven has helped hundreds of thousands of people all over the world to heal their grief over the loss of a loved one. Generously, Bill made it a practice to send out copies of his book free of charge to newly bereaved individuals, especially parents who
had lost young children. Based on his diligent research in his first hand experiences, he came to the abiding conclusion that life and love are eternal and that death is merely a transition to a higher realm of continued existence. His longtime personalized automobile license tag beautifully and succinctly summed up his firm conviction about life's purpose be life. So here is a conversation I shared with the wonderful Bill Guggenheim.
I'm from Long Island, Manhattan in New York City and New Jersey, and grew up there and went to school there Yale University. But mainly I was a stockbroker and a securities analyst, literally on Wall Street. I worked for two small firms, which has nothing to do with this. That's my orientation. I inherited money when I was twenty one. I wanted to learn how to manage it. That's why I studied a whole bunch of courses and eventually worked in the field. But Judy and I moved to Florida.
We had one son at that time, and I had a spiritual awakening in nineteen seventy four that led me to attend day five day workshop which would be very, very famous. That's doctor Elizabeth Koubler Ross wrote who and she wrote all the books yearly books on death and dying. Yes, And this workshop was held in nineteen seventy seven. It was just a series of coincidences, if there are tutch things. Happened to be watching her on the Phil Donna Hugh Show.
One day, Judy called me in to see her. I had heard her name, but I didn't know who she was. I watched for an hour and she really spoke about near death experiences, which I was a bit familiar with. I had read Raymond Body's book Life After Life, which was published in nineteen seventy five, and I knew some people involved with that research and things like that. I didn't, you know, this didn't change my life or anything at all.
I just watched it, and then coincidentally, the same show came on another cable channel when we were living in Sarasota two weeks later, and in that show it had her name and mailing address below. So, feeling kind of magnanimous at the moment, I wrote a check to support her work. Break the check twenty five dollars what you might do if the Brownie Scouts came around, or the fire department or any other you know, house to house
charity call kind of thing. And I thought, that's you know, I did my good need for the day and that would be the end of it. But as it turned out, what Elizabeth wrote back to me sent me a number of audio cassette tapes called Lessons from the Dying Patient and invited me to attend a five day workshop with her.
And I didn't know anything about it. So I waited up to the last day before registration, and I thought, well, if I went, then probably a doctor or a nurse, or a social worker or you know, somebody in the medical profession would not be able to attend if I went.
So I called her office in Illinois to speak to her secretary, I thought, and I was going to apologize and say very much, thank you, very much for inviting me, but really, you know, get my seat away, don't hold a place for me for somebody who could make a bigger difference in the field of death and dying. And however, that particular day was snowing in Illinois, and Elizabeth answered
her own phone denised her voice immediately. So bringing this into context, imagine calling some movie star or somebody like that, and you know Jennifer Aniston, and you get her right on the phone. It's her. It's not you know, a machine or somebody else that works there. But it was Elizabeth.
So I went to my little routine about thank you for inviting me, but and she listened patiently, and then she simply said, in her German Swiss accent, Miria, I think you should be there, And I just point out I guess I'm gonna push over for dominant women, because I said, well, Elizabeth, if you think so, I will, And six months later, sure enough, I was there for five days. It was about the workshop was not about
duck and dying. It was about life and living and people releasing their grief for their pain, their sorrow, all kinds of things, not just death by having been abused, having been this out or the other throughout life, you know, all the different emotions, and we bonded so much. That's by the end of the workshop we all wanted to just call our immediate family members and friends and go off to an island together and never go back to reality.
It was so incredibly loving. I've never experienced in a group the love we shared in those few days, which Bill Bill filt throughout the workshop. The big point is that on that Thursday evening she flew Raymond Moody down from Virginia to Florida where the workshop was to speak to us. And he spoke about us in your Death's Experience research and whatnot in his book, and a couple of people or three people talked about they had had one of.
Those This is a good time to go into our first break, isn't Bill Guggenheim? Just down to earth. You never know how one TV show or a conversation with a person can make a difference. Raymond Moody, Elizabeth Koopler Ross made a huge difference in Bill's eyes. Little did he know he would be one of the biggest after life pioneers with his book Hello from Heaven and We'll Be Back. You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
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This is Afterlife expert Danid Brakleace and into the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Aeronormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain, and you are listening to a conversation I had with the late great Bill Guggenheim, co author of Hello from Heaven. You just never know when an ordinary everyday person is someone who can make a big difference. So last he was talking about a workshop with Elizabeth Koobler Ross and doctor Raymond Moody was there.
How, Vanna went into another direction where a woman claimed that her daughter had been hidden killed by a driver of a car accident away when the daughter was walking with a friend. So both these teenage girls were killed. She had what she called a dream in which she saw her daughter conversed with her. The dream was very, very healing. It it had occurred about a year before, and this woman was a nurse herself, and she accepted it fully as being authentic and real and an actual
contact from her daughter. And then she went on to say how her son had seen his sister while he was doing his homework one evening scared him and he went running into the living room and saying, Kaffi's there, Kaffiy's air, and he described what she was wearing and whatnot. And I had never heard of anything like this before ever, anyone who had died. Was my praise was when you're dead, you're dead, you know, and the body is white, a flash,
white battery and the juice runs out. You throw it away. Wow, those were live views. So I was I was very skeptical about this. I thought it was very nice that the mother had a dream, but when she called her a dream, I dismissed that he not real. And when the boy gave his account of saying, sister, and so your teenage boy in little marijuana, who knows what?
You know?
Probably a drug reaction, And so that went away. But then Elizabeth went on to narrate a story in which a patient of hers had died ten months earlier, came back to Elizabeth made Elizabeth make a promise that she would not quit her work, because there was a great deal of pressure on Elizabeth at that point, opposition by the medical community to stop doing what she was doing, even though she worked in a hospital and everything, and she was a full fledged American psychiatrist at that point,
although her background was from Switzerland. When finished, when Elizabeth finished her long story, which is in our books, I'm not going to go through it. You could literally hear a pin drop would have sounded like a crowbar following
on a concrete floor or something. It was so dramatic, And so I went home with the idea, well, if it happened to one person, Elizabeth Koola Ross, who had everything to lose and nothing to gain by telling this experience, I felt maybe taped to some other people now and back then in nineteen seventy seven, seventy eight, late seventies throughout the eighties, there was no Internet or anything like it.
It was the interlibrary loan system. So I was able to get books from anywhere in the country that I could locate, or you know, a title over in Arthur or whatever. And so I would get a book here, in a book there, and there'd be one accound or two accounts its, maybe three of something like this, and one had a whole chapter on it, you know, had of all the books that have ever been written, one had a chapter. And I was curious, and I didn't
know what to do about it. But I went to Raymond Moody, who I had gotten to know myself again, the father of near death experience research, and I asked, I figured if he wrote the book, it would get attention. And well, Raymond never said no, he never said yes, And he kept postponing me for years because and I even found a man who he worked with up in Georgia, so he would find people to interview, so the three
of us would work together. But it never happened, and I finally had an experience of hearing a voice, my old head say do your own research, write your own book. It's your spiritual work to do. And so it was back on me and I didn't know. I mean I could figure out what to do, yes, but I had done it, and that was very simply find people who had had some kind of experience, have been contacted by love when who would die, and interviewed them. That was
my messondolity, very simple. I called my former wife Q come over, and we had been married seventeen years. We were divorced for four years, but I had shared all my information and interest in this with her before where you were divorced, and even afterwards, and so she did it.
Even that day when she was there for an hour, we got a phone call from somebody telling us about accounts this woman's aunt seeing a friend of hers who had died having the experience before she was even informed that the friend had died.
Wow.
Evidential. That's what I really wanted to supply in, something which could convince me that these weren't just imagination, which we were thinking or you know, breathed desire to bereave that kind of thing. And the long story short, in our book, we did have six chapters of why these real and I'll go through that later, but that provides evidence within the experience, not just reading it, but the content of how they learned, what they learned and whatnot.
That they learned something they didn't know before or before they were told to loved one had died, things like that. So with that I plunged. I had. My job was to find ten people a week here in Orlando, Florida, and I did to who would claim to have such an experience because I didn't know if we'd find fifty
people a year or one hundred and a year. Long story short, we interviewed five hundred people the very first year, and that led to being in contact with various bereavement organizations and asking them to help us by providing people who were grieving that's a little loved one, especially grieve parents.
And we gave our first lecture workshop whatever you want to call it, one year after we began our research, which we began in nineteen eighty eight through nineteen ninety five, but nineteen eight nine, we gave our first workshop with over three hundred people in it all beieve parents Wow. And a second one the same day with more than two hundred for parents in it. And because another little coincidence, I had met a woman who was a reporter for
the Saint Petersburg Times. She was there and she brought a cameraman. So we had a wonderful, beautiful article over in the Saint Petersburg newspaper that was written with the color photograph and we use that as evidence that our research was real and honest and straightforward. And we use that throughout the rest of our six years of research whenever we contacted anybody, individuals or organizations. So we had and there were other stories and other newspapers, including New
Orlando Sentinel two in there. So we got a great deal of publicity before a book was ever published. West kept going and going and going. We kept hearing more and more experiences, so we didn't stop, and we wound up interviewing two thousand people in all fifteen American states and all ten Canadian provinces, all backgrounds, all interests, all
different relationships, everything, and that's in the book. And Hello from Heaven contains three hundred and fifty three first hand accounts that we planned the books that were all representative of all the others we heard.
How did you pick the three hundred and fifty three out of two thousand?
Basically they fall with the categories we found twelve sounds like the zodiacci the twelve categories. Actually there were one or two more now, but then there were twelve. They just fell into one, such as a feeling or sensing the presence, or hearing a voice, or feeling a touch, a tactile touch, or a pat of caress, a kiss, something like that, or smelling of fragrance of some kind.
We're actually seeing them. They fall into patterns those types of experiences, and within those we found the ones that were the clearest and easiest to understand, the best told frankly avorbally and edited down to a reasonable amount of space in a book. And yes there's a lot of hard choices, but we have to not have a thousand page books that we do. Nobody would read that.
What are some of these twelve If you don't mind.
Hearing a voice, or sensing a presence, or feeling a touch, these types of things we go on later into of course people call them dreams. We call them sweep state ABC's because they're very common. They're not People will go through a whole experience and they use the word dream, green dream, but then they'll finish plaicing. But it was unlike any other dream I ever had. They saw the
person they communicated. Usually it was detailed, it was personal, it was comforting, uplifting, and even other people in their dreams, there are a group of people didn't see that person. Only they did, so there were unique little twists and turns within many of these.
Do you have any stories of ADCs that continue to just like when you think about them, there's no doubt this is reality. Any stories you could share with us, Well, the.
Easiest one is the one I had, and that was before we ever began a research. Judy and I were owned a home in Longwood, Florida, which is a suburb of Orlando, and one Sunday afternoon we had a talk. We were in our living room, which was in the front of the house, and we had gotten up to go on and do whatever it was wrestled that Sunday and I heard a thought in my mind very clearly.
It said go outside and check the swimming pool. It's very common in Florida for people to have screened in pools, and then you don't have to be a millionaire or anything like it. I mean, you look from the air. It's hard to fly in some areas and suburban area. Houses that don't have pools'll come there. So we had a average size screened in pool. And so I walked from the front of the house to the rear, which had sliding glass doors between us and the pool we
had about fifteen feet away. There was a wrought iron fence and the gate had been left open, and we had three sons at that point. Two of the older ones used to use that as a shortcut to go to the backyard. So from the back door through the gate to the pool and around the pool through another door outside the pool, And so I went to close the gate, and as I did, I had to look down at the deep end of the pool. There our youngest son, Jonathan was floating and not moving at all,
and iaginet Nelson's dead. Her alive. He was only less than two years old. He didn't know how to swim, and I tore her off to the other end of the pool and just before I jumped in the water. Jonathan was floating face upwards. His arms were a kid boat, and he spread out with his legs. His eyes were open and he wasn't moving, but he had almost like a small smile on his face, him buying memory. And so I jumped in the water. I came up under him, pushed him to the side, and while I had been
running down the side, I yelled out, Judy. I screeched down Judy. She came running immediately, and she literally pulled him out. I pushed him and she told him. He both got out. It may the water was still cold. I was shivering a bit. We didn't know what yet, and within a few seconds he split up water and he was flying. He did not even require CPR so quickly. How occurred?
Wow? Incredible story. So important to listen to those gut instincts. And in Bill's case, he heard a voice. It's real, folks, absolutely real, Hello from Heaven. Time for our next break and we'll be back with more. Bill Gougenheim, you're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
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Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain and we are hearing about Hello from Heaven from the late Bill Gougenheim. He just told us a story about hearing a message check the swimming pool where he found his two year old boy floating and subsequently survived. Let's continue and other.
People's Hello from Heaven. I received messages to look out and check the bar, and in that case the bar was on fire and would have spread to the house or built board that aeroplane and then later on the plane crashes. Wow, they're all the plane will crash. Won't get on. Just don't get on that plane. If your listeners don't believe a word I say, that's up to them.
But if you ever ever receive information about slow down now, or stop your car now, or anything like that, please be good about it and listen to that voice and heat it because it will probably save your life or at least prevent you from having a serious accident.
So let's talk about a few other these kinds of after death communications, because I think we can have them and not realize we're having. I'm like, for instance, smelling my grandmother's perfume or something like that. You know, that could be a very real communication, couldn't it.
It's a whole chapter in All from Heaven about that. You can smell a perfume and cologne, favorite food, favorite beverage, could be a sachet was reported. The sense of the baby can be reported anything to do with smelling something like that, And which makes them the most interesting in a way, because this is a category of all the types of experiences that other people can share and do
share easily. So let's pretend you're calling me from northern Minnesota in the middle of a blizzards snow outside, no flowers anywhere, and you're working in an office in a big building, in a cubicle or whatever, and there's no flowers and there's no colonne, there's no perfume of anything, and all of a sudden, you start smelling violets, which may not even be a flower native to there, I don't know, but you smell my life, and well, I like to remind you that what you say your mother's
favorite flower when she was alive, and you, guys, feel surrounded by lilacs and uplifted, and you feel a warm hug from your mother emotionally, and you say thank your mom or whatever, and somebody comes along and you go sniff, sniffles, smell it. Oh yes, it's flowers, flylax, and they'll smell it. And a third person will come along in a four and aft. So these and we have one in which twelve people all smell the same roses when there are
no roses there. So that's evidential, where there's two or more people at the same time, in the same place, sharing the same experience, again with no words involved, without anybody saying, oh do you smell that, not prompting them or listening Oh yes, yes, you know, cause you know to say yes, but stay on their own noticing it and commenting on it.
Can we talk about telephone calls? I just want to share something that one of the listeners told me that her dad had a close friend who had passed away. And I don't know how long it was after the guy had passed away, but this gentleman's cell phone rang that it was from the guy who died, and of course he couldn't have dialed it because you know, he
was gone. So he the fella just assumed that, well, somebody else must have gotten the number or something like that, so he dialed the number back and the number had been disconnected.
Yes, this was just coming in as we were finishing our researcher where you would have had more on net regarding cell phones, pagers, and computers, and people have received messages on your computers and this is not an email from us, you know us, somebody trying to make them feel good, or somebody's trying to spoof them. This is just a little message for them on a computer. Or hearing telephone calls. It's not uncommon, it's not the most common,
but it's the smallest category. But one man wrote a whole book on it called Phone Calls from the Dead. He's a parapsychologist and who I read his book long and many years ago. But what it is is imagine your okay two forms. When is when you're asleep. Now maybe you can accept it more easily that you're sleeping and the phone rings that you hear in your head and you pick it up and it's your ant parent
or your child or whoever it is. You can accept that more readily than actually seeing them and person who are you know during a so called dream, six stage, ADC or whatever, and you have a two way conversation with them, buy telephone and hang up, and that's that, okay. But what about when you're wide awake. Let's say you're in the kitchen, you're cooking or cleaning up, or some other room of a house doing whatever you're doing, doesn't matter.
Wherever you are, could be a business even, and the phone rings, you pick it up, and it's the voice of your love one who died, and they communicate to you. They speak to you, and you can have one way or two way communication with them during this type or other types of experiences as well, but to one a two way communication and generally their voice then begins to fade away and that's the end of it. But there's never a hang up or a disconnect sound or a
dial tone. It just phades away. And in some cases they can be on a cell phone there it can show the phone number. But if you die, what that's not valid or whatever. But we have the whole chapter in the on phone calls yes.
What's the most common kind of ADC?
The most common one is perhaps not the most interesting because it's the hardest to imagine, like you've already felt it. But it's called feeling or sensing the presence. You just feel the person is around you or near you in your vicinity. And many people can point to where in the room, like over to my laughter, to my right, or behind me, and they can report a change in temperature. Sometimes occasionally the temperature may rise or decline, sometimes drastically.
And they will also know when that's no longer there, when the person is left. But they'll say, oh, that's it. Mayory just died, or that's so and so. It's usually somebody is not quite as close to them, and they say, well, I'm just you know, I'm upset because I'm thinking about them, or something like that. So that's why I imagined this. But really they are feeling it. They know what. But because in our culture we discard so many things like that as not real, they throw it away. In other cases,
it's maybe their deceased husband arrived or child. Others can go on for months and even years, and what we say is very simply is not that they just want you to feel their presence. But they're not just letting you know they're there. There's something you can do right here, right now when you have that occur, and that is sit down, relax, relax your body as much as you can, close your eyes, take a few deep breats, just like your untermeditation, and open your mind and ask we see
the message. At first, you're, you know, your mind just turning away, usual mind shatter. But you should in time receive a message from them, because they want to communicate with you. Want more than to just give you a fragrance for you to spell, or a touch or things like that. They want to communicate something primal. And there's a whole list of those. I'll be happy to get into it a minute. But feeling the presence is the most common, and I would say the sweep States so
called dream is the second was common. Here's the body analogy because I was doing I have a lot of time in the works. Now. How hard is it to get hold of somebody today? You call them on the phone, you get wife mail, right, you have to send them an email. You may and may not get back to you. For a day or two, you call them on and on and on all these different ways, and yet we're
further apart of me. And the joke is about kids who can text, and they're doing incessively, But if you put the same kids in the same room together, they don't know what to say to each other. And by the way, they have no idea what to say with real words right out of their mouth. And so we're clos there by texting and tweeting and all this, but we're further away from each other in terms of emotionality and harsh health words.
Yeah, And when I first got into this, I had so much fear of telling people that I was looking into life after death and looking for proof, and these are the things I came up with. Bill. I thought people were going to think I was crazy, so I kept my mouth shut. And I think so many people have had experiences and might be afraid to share.
That was the biggest surprise as we did our research, because people said to us, I had my experience five years, ten year, twenty years ago, and you're the first person I've ever told, or you're the first people we've told outside of my immediate family or friends, and so many people said that that I knew our book, if nothing else, would validate their experiences for each other. And that's why we chose the format of having three hundred and fifty
three first hand accounts. It's not about Juliet Bill Googianhang, and I don't care if we have PhDs, He's still not going to reach more people than by having the account and the experience's own words, first hand accounts, in other words, that they can read and a sign for themselves or these authentic or not. And that's what we wanted to do, and that's what we did. And books are not usually done this way because it's very little of us in the book, and we're not trying to
be the experts. So this means this, and that means that, and of course you must believe such and such. We wanted their readers to read these accounts and make their own objective opinion of what they thought it meant. And I loved as one comment, you know on Amazon, this guy I said, I believe it was a man who kept reading a book and then throwing it against the wall we're discussed, but then started to read it again. And they said he could put it down well, there's.
Such a battle in our minds. Even as long as I've been involved with this, you know, little voice in my head sometimes tells me I'm losing my mind. None of it happened, you know. I think we all can find you know that we fight that negative.
You have to realize what we didn't really elaborate on because we couldn't in our book, is what we regard as these types of experiences or near death experiences. It seems like this as being weird or different or out there, and they're called parapsychological, paranormal, and other words meaning not
real as far as through science goes. These occur in other parts of the world, such as Central and South America, parts of Europe, the Far East, especially in the Philippines, where people have these experiences at night, will say share them with their friends and family members the next day, openly and easily, and they're accepted fully. We're the ones was blinders on. We're the ones that don't accept what the rest of the world does accept. And it's all
because our whole society is so scientifically oriented. It goes back to the Sun revolves around the Earth, and that was disproven and this was a disclimer, and that was this route, and science gradually ascended be the master of the truth. And if science obayed it was true, and it didn't, Okay, it wasn't true.
Isn't that the truth? Wow? We're going to go into our last break, and when we come back, we'll hear a few more words from the wonderful Bill Guggenheim, remembering his work and remembering his life. You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast am Paranormal Podcast Network. Don't go anywhere. There's more Shades of the Afterlife coming right up.
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Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain, a dear friend of mine says we are only dead if we are forgotten. Bill Guggenheim passed with a great book, Hello from Heaven. In it are so many different accounts of great reasons and signs that you can believe in the afterlife. It's been te translated into many languages. He has spoken on the topic, not just to me, but so many others. Take a look on YouTube. Type in
Bill Guggenheim. See who this wonderful man is. And I say is because he is still working, no doubt on behalf of humanity from the other side. Bill going to raise a glass and toast you. A little bit later, I'd like to continue on with just a few more words from Bill. He was just talking about science and if science can't believe something, we human beings tend not to believe.
And if science obayed it was true, if he didn't, okay, it wasn't true. And now the latest thing is is consciousness located in the brain or is it out outside of the brain? Non local consciousness? Whereas consciousness existing, we don't realize we all were raised with the same religion. I'm not saying we're Catholics or products and Jews or whatever. There's another religion we were raised with from first grade or preschool on right through college and PhDs, and that
is science. Science is a way of looking at Earth, life on Earth and evaluating it in a certain way. And it's fine for physical matter, I'm not disputing it, and energy in those things, but it's no good for these areas and that. Yet we attribute it as being intallible and having the last word and everything. And so we're the ones who are starving and fearful about death. I hear from the many Hawsess people, how many people die hanging on to life with their fingernails because of
their religion and science. They're afraid that they're going to go to hell or to oblivion, one or the other. You know, right, that's a scary way to Yes, it is. And they look at and they act it and they speak it if they can speak, and that's the way they leave this planet, leave this life. They don't have to. That's between science and some performs the religious belief. That's what there's not's with typically though, let me give you
the positive. The positive is that many people, even if they've been in a coma well for a few moments before they make their transition, they open their eyes, they sit up, they're smiling. They will sometimes mentioned or a point or indicate that their deceased loved one or one or more loved ones are present and have a big smile and in a way saying I'll be with you
in a moment. And then they take their last breath and they're gone, that they have a whole welcoming committee waiting for them and escorting them to the light.
That's awesome.
A lot has happened since Elizabeth Koper Lobster did her research, and the books on near death experiences and our book Allow from Heaven and all the other books when after deathrification as they said earlier, and someone out of body experiences, and the number of celebrities that have come forward shared of their experiences in popular media. All these are kipping away at this really agnostic or atheistic viewpoint that there ain't no more and there sure is.
How many people would you say, have these experiences more people than not? Or do you have any idea?
Yes? There was a poll conducted that indicates before we ever began our work, and indicated that it was around forty three forty four percent of all Americans have had one and after death communication experience. Now that's if you include all the population about now over three hundred million, you're speaking about one hundred and twenty five million people. About a third I'm going to say a third conservatively
has had one a third of the population. But then take into account many people have never been to RIDD certainly young yes, and many older people there's never been that close to somebody who's died. Maybe it was a grandparent, but they just weren't that close to that grandparents or whoever, so they haven't dealt with this. Or if they had somebody who come back, they wouldn't have recognized him more. It would have blown it off very easily. Wow, just
just discounted it. And that's sad, but it's the way it is.
I know I've spoken to people and they've heard stories of other people that get these communications. Is there something people can do to increase their chances? I mean, I know you said to be open, and I do think having a quiet mind, and like you said, asking for communication is important. But is there anything we can do or pay attention to differently to help have one.
What I say is, first of all, ask asking is a former prayer if you like that word or not. But asking is a form of being open. You're admitting you there's something more you would like, So ask the person we'd like to hear from to come back to you in some form. So just playing to ask. But this this sincerity, not just off the top of your head. Okay, try with to me. No whe the cynical by it. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear that's going to happen.
Now you pray with to me and maybe i'll maybe maybe maybe I'll consider No, not's not asking, I mean asking was it be sincere or open loving heart? And maybe they want to give a message to somebody else and offered to be a service to them, to give a message to maybe their spouse or another child or whoever it may be. But asking is a form of being open, and it's a form of prayer, and it creates an openness in your mind, in your emotions, and
you're in the possible for what is possible. Because that's what we're talking about, what is possible. It's amazing as they say that, I know atheists and foxhols, well here nobody has to be an atheist or agnostics. So you don't have to tell anybody if it doesn't happen, or even if it does happen, you don't have to tell anybody. Let's see what happens now. The other thing is, which is very positive. Yes, learn how to meditate.
Meditation does take time, but quieting your mind and just being in that present moment of mindfulness you can do it in a second. Like I said in the beginning, being present to your feelings is the entryway for so much. And as Bill said, ask Bill was kind enough to send me a beautiful laminated sheet called who Do You Think You Are? And I'm delighted that it's also posted on his website, Bill Guggenheim dot com. I'd like to read this to you. These are words from Bill who
do You Think You Are? When you were born this world with partial amnesia, These reminders will make your life happier, easier, and more fulfilling. You are an eternal soul who lives primarily in the spirit world. You chose your current lifetime and physical reality aboard Spaceship Earth as a student enrolled in the human experience to achieve spiritual growth in a universe of duality. You carefully selected your gender race, color, nationality, culture, talent, education,
and other personal characteristics. All your choices will provide lessons you will learn and lessons you will teach others. You picked out your physical body, the earth suit you're wearing to function in this space. Time to mention. One day it will stop working and you will continue to exist. You mutually agreed to your primary relationships grandparents, parents, part children, pets, et cetera. Be aware that every person and every experience
is your teacher. You chose Earth to experience human emotions and elevate your consciousness. You're also here to learn to love every person unconditionally. To master these spiritual lessons, treat everyone with loving kindness, including yourself. To assure abundance, be humble, serve others lovingly, express gratitude often, be understanding, compassionate, and forgiving. Acquire serenity, courage, and wisdom. Nurture others and yourself. Be creative,
Always do your best, and celebrate life joyfully. To expand your awareness and develop your inner intuitive senses, meditate daily. This will broaden your spirituality and deepen your relationship with the source. Learn to tune in trust and act upon your intuition. It offers clarity, insight, and practical guidance for all your situations, and it will empower you to make your best decisions. If you can't recall your purpose in life,
pray it will be revealed. Of course, you have free will, and you can live any lifestyle you are able to create. You will receive everything you need for spiritual growth, but not necessarily what you want. Your sole plan and consciousness determine the experiences, people, and things you will attract. Do not judge others. You do not know what they came here to learn. Like the leaves on a huge tree, all people are connected to each other and part of
the source. Do everything you can do to relieve suffering, inspire healing, harmony, and unity. When your physical body dies, when you graduate, you will bring with you all of the love and kindness you have shared, your memories, and the lessons you have learned. After your transition, you will have a life review. You will relive every thought, feeling, word, and action of your entire lifetime and experience how they affected everyone else. Remember, you are a being of light,
an immortal spirit. You are enrolled in the human experience to learn spiritual love, compassion, kindness, forgiveness, wisdom, peace, etc. Eventually, your physical body will die and you will return to heaven. There you will have joyous reunions with all of your deceased loved ones who are looking forward to your arrival and last love one another, Serve one another, honor the source. Life and love are eternal. Thank you, Bill, and thank
you for Hello from Heaven. As a reminder of my friends, we Don't Die dot com is your home base for all past episodes of my podcasts. Also to receive a free copy of my book and to your name and email address on the bottom of that homepage, come join one of our medium classes. See what your soul is made of. You're pretty incredible. And last but not least, come join our free Sunday gathering. It's pretty darn special.
I'm Sandra Champlain. Thank you for listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast am Paranormal podcast Network.
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