Episode 134: Hag Horrors!!

always welcome you to send your stories into me. I'm not saying I'm a guru, I'm not a know it all. I'm just someone who has been there, seeing that, experienced it, freaked out, found some answers, wrote about it, got over it, and now I'm trying to help others do the same darn thing and figure out this world. To go to Heidihollis dot com or shadow folks dot com and tell me every bit of detail that you'd like. I don't care what it is. Sometimes it paints a picture, and

we love painted pictures here, don't we. We do we do? And if there is a picture you want to send, guess what. You can send it over through my personal email, which is Heidihollis at gmail dot com. And I mean, it is just amazing the areas that we get to cover on this show. And I never ever get to know exactly what's going on in these emails. I really grab them at random, I copy, I paste them, I put it in a document and I just go from there.

If I see something the first line or something that catches my attention, I try to reach out and say, hey, what do you mean do you want this? Well? You know what can I do, especially if it's an emergency, because I do get those. I'm not a psychic. I am not a psychic. Yeah, I've seen a lot of stuff, but I really am a big believer that a lot of us are able to experience these things. But my super duper psychic friends would say no, not always. Okay, Well,

I don't know. I just think that we're all like God's kids, and yeah, some of us are evolving, but I don't know. I'm optimistic that way. So AnyWho, I want to remind you also, please go to any social media out there and put at one. Put a one in front of my names at one Heidi Hollis, and you will find me. So send me a message there. I do respond as much as I possibly can. And also I am a paranormal cartoonist. Uh huh The Outlanders Comic Go to the Outlanderscomic dot com or follow me

on Instagram at the Outlander's Comic. Uh huh. You know, I gotta tell you, guys, I have been getting so many emails. I was just on coast to coast am with George Nori, and once again the giant influx of folks. You know, because I'm hosting on coast now, I haven't been on the Big show as often. Okay, I don't think I have been since I've been hosting, and I jumped on there and people are like, where are you been. I'm like, I've been here this whole time. Listen to

the announcements. Sometime it's all good, I understand. So I have a feeling there's a lot of newbies joining here on the show for the first time, so welcome. I have been here having a ball for the past almost three years hosting over here. Dark becomes light And I got to tell you, guys, the emails just like just when I think, oh, it's slowing, no, it jumps right up again. And boy, during COVID it was a really really hot mess out there, and really I get it.

I mean, the dark things were feeding upon it. But you know what I got to tell you, I prefer the more positive stuff. I just call me biased angelic Jesus encounters, near death experience is all of that, because boy, I write on a lot of different topics and I get it. I named discovered, defined, trademark shadow people and the hat Man phenomenon, and a lot of people are suffering out there. So I am very humbled that you guys trust me with your stories and your emails. So

I'm not saying that, so keep those coming. But I know I'm gonna tell you something. I know if you experience these dark things, you are also capable of experience the light stuff. You are How do I know that? Personal experience and what I've learned. So I have to tell you guys, today is all about your emails because I have been slammed and I want to catch up on these and so guess what. We're dabbling into the outlandish corner. Oh yes we are, Oh yes we are.

We are digging our hands around into the purple bag of emails. Uh huh, and uh I am just like I love seeing these giant emails. I love it because I just get all who we're gonna We're gonna have some wild stuff popping up here. And I don't mean like, oh, I'm so glad people are suffering. No, getting those details, those details really it pulls us in, It really does.

And I get a lot of appreciative emails from folks out there saying oh wow, you know, I'm so glad somebody mentioned this detail because it helped me in this way. So remember that, guys. Remember that. But before we get

to your emails, I wanted to address a something. Uh, you know, I like to share a little bit of knowledge, personal experience, and stuff that have happened to me personally, because I think it's important to understand some of the stuff that I've had happened that got me to where I am right now, where I'm sitting here, you know, chatting on coast humbling. So get this. A lot of people are very much about saving the planet, which is

really important. I am absolutely about recycling, energy, conservation, cleaning up our oceans, doing these things responsibly. All right, absolutely, people say, oh, is there global warming going on? I mean, come on, we could see there's always records being broken, right, something's going on. Okay, I'm not going to get political about it, but I do know that alien beings speak of these things. Yeah, how about that. There are a

lot of people. I don't know if you guys are fully in tune with some of the conversations that people have with alien beings that claim do have been abducted but sometimes after a person has been abducted, suddenly they become a big advocate for saving the planet and they feel it's made them a better person. Of course, you know, like these experiences and whatnot, and so they're all in on this phenomena to save the planet. And which is

it's beautiful? You know, it's beautiful. What was puzzling to me when I'd come across these stories sometimes, and I'm not saying all the time, but the word abducted means taken abruptly without you saying, yeah, I'll schedule that in all right, it's abrupt and I don't think it's a

good thing. I don't think abduction is good in any scenario. Okay, So if a being took you, even if you knew them, even if you got comfortable with them, even if even if there's a lot of even ifs, and they're encouraging you to do that one thing to save the planet, why is that part of their agenda? Fully, Okay, I'm gonna tell you something, And this is something like I couldn't have made this up on my own. I would

have never gone there. I thought, Wow, what a cool element to come back wanting to do all this positive good stuff for the planet. Again positive, it's positive. Well, I had alien encounters, not abductions. I am not an abductee, okay, not that I recall remember or anything like that, Okay, but I had some encounters with positive beings, the ones who gave me information in regards to shadow people and

hat man phenomenon. I got some of that information from memories that came back to me, not through hypnosis or anything like that, nothing like that, but on spontaneous recall.

And I've learned more recently. I tried reaching out to somebody who does a lot of hypnosis and a lot of past life regression stuff, and I'm like, hey, have you had anybody you know, I've been doing talk ready for a long time and I've been trying to fight if anybody has had this out of nowhere recall of what they came here for, what they're supposed to be doing and all this stuff. And it's like, oh, no, that usually happens in childhood and not as an adult,

you know, and spontaneous. You weren't being hypnotized or anything. No, just came and it's like not heard of it, okay, And this is somebody that's been doing regressive hypnosis for decades, so I was surprised. I can't come across anybody that's had that. But it's amazing. When you start talking about something really amazing, people say me too, me too, me too, me too, and it's like it's hard to know are

they being authentic? Right? That's just been my experience. So I got these memories, and I also got this information from positive beings, and the beings indicated to me that the more naked beings I'm just stating, the more negative beings try to encourage saving the planet. And I'm like, well that seems backwards. How is that possible? And why what the negative ones want? It's like, well, of course they want to preserve what they want to conquer. They

don't want us, you know, the humans destroying it. I'm like, okay, I got that, and we should be doing this responsibly any anyways. But the positive beings also are like, you know, don't blow it up either, okay, But they indicated something to me. Okay, they indicated that this earth recycles itself. This is just something that it does. The only thing worth at this moment that's most important. I shouldn't say

that's worth. That's most important to save are the souls because they are being threatened by this dark presence, shadow people hat man who have essentially infiltrated and possessed the more negative beings. Take that in, huh, I mean take that in what. I was stunned to learn that and to hear that from these beings. I didn't know what to think. I'm like, hold on pretty much a lot of people that I heard involved in being in contact

with aliens. It was all abductions. You're telling me that this is negative, and wow, it's just backwards, absolutely backwards than what I thought. And I don't know what to tell you, guys, But when you think about it, if this planet goes through these cycles, and there's evidence of cycles happening, like lost knowledge and seeing ruins that were made from great things, something happened to wipe that all out? Right? Noah,

it's dark. You know what was that about? And here we are still not knowing if we have a soul or not. So yeah, I guess that's important, and we should also be aware of threat to gets it all right, you guys, we're gonna get to the first break. You are listening to dark Becomes Light with Me Heidi Hollis on the iHeartRadio at Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back. You are listening to Dark Becomeslight with Me Heidi Hollis on the iHeart Radio A Coast to Coast

a AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Well, I have to remind you, guys, don't forget to check out heidihouse dot com tell me your stories, and also don't forget to follow me on so many social media platforms. At one, Heidi that is Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, Uh huh, all of the above, TikTok, that's where you go. But I also want to remind you I am telling

from the beginning of me. I guess you could say all of my stories on my YouTube channel and so yeah, you gotta go to YouTube dot com forward slash Heidi Hollis and we're gonna get down to it on there because it's important, all right. So you guys, I've got these emails I grabbed at random, and I got an eighty bitty email. This first one, it is the Outlanich corner. Just in case you didn't catch that. Uh, this one says dear Heidi, how do I get signed copies of

some of your books. Thanks Daniel. Well, thanks Daniel, I appreciate you inquiring. I used to put those out and have them available on my website, but boy, oh boy, that was really hard to keep up with. But you know what, I just might bring it back and make it available that way. It's kind of neat to see people having once gone crazy for ebooks but now want the print books. And yeah, that's that's been kind of wild. And you know, I started doing paintings, okay, bigfoot paintings.

I cannot believe how many people have been after that. I mean, like, wow, I did it for a charity, and the folks started reaching out to me through my website like you know, I have bit on thoes and I couldn't get it. And I'm like, so I'm gonna be putting some bigfoot paintings on my website. Uh huh, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it because it's fun, all right, So I might do that. Thank you, Daniel. All right, now, we got a big email. We got

a big email here, all right. This one says, Hi, Heidi, Hey, what's going on? Sorry this is a long one, but I need to share it. Hey, hey, we love those long ones. So it's okay. I was listening to one of your podcasts last night, episode eighty nine. Okay, I heard you read an email from a lady talking about the hag. Oh, okay, the old Hag, and thought I should share my experience with her. I've had experiences since I was a child. They always came in groups and

would die down after a few days. Bo I don't get a lot of old Hag stories, but when I do, they always are one of the more creepier things. I guess something about witches comes to mind, right, and I just I don't know. It's like I just think of this horrible, wretched looking thing, and oddly enough for myself, I haven't met her, but when I first heard about her approaching people that I got the image straight in

my head of this very small, wretched looking thing. But guess what, guys, there is a different kind of hag out there. She's younger and she seduces, and boy, I don't know, I don't know what to tell you. It's really twisted stuff, all right. So continuing, where are we right here? Okay? Each time I was able to confront it and drive it away. Oh good, I seem to gain confidence versus being afraid. About a year ago, my wife and I were asleep. I woke up to a

strange feeling and immediately knew that something was in our bedroom. Oh, I know that feeling. I know that feeling. It was cold as ice, and all I could move was my head. I turned towards my wife, who I thought was sitting up in bed. Oh, I got the ikey chills just now, ikey chills top of my thighs, I don't know why, and under my elbows. That's weird. That's when she spun around, and I immediately knew it was the hag as my wife was still lying down asleep. No no, oh, the

chills just growing, growing, deep, deep growing. She moved her face close to mine. Oh no no, and began speaking to me in a strange language. This is something out of a horror film. Guys, and you're you're paralyzed. You can't do anything. I began telling her that she was not welcome and that she had no power over me. Then she began cackling and lunged to grab me. Oh gosh, you know I can't tell you, guys, right now, I feel like sick to my stomach. I'm sitting here reading

this and I just feel sick. This is so horrible. I just when I read stuff. I have synesthesia. Okay. Synaesthesia is where you can experience different things with your senses. And I absolutely when people feel something, it hits me. It really does. And I have to take a step back sometimes because it could be really just ooh ooh. And this this email here is one of them. All right. I was able to break free of my paralysis and grabbed her by the arms. She let out a blood

curdling screech and vanished. Well, way to go, oh, way to go? Oh, I gotta hear how how did you break this paralysis? I didn't hear anything about Jesus or anything. I wonder. I hope. Okay, we're gonna keep reading. Oh I want to see. Oh no, you're fast forwarding. You're fast forwarding. Oh, come on, how did you break for you? Your paralysis? All right? Fast forward to a week later, same situation. In bed and felt that something was in the room. I felt the air get colder and the

paralysis set in. I opened my eyes to scan the room, and that is when I saw him. Oh, okay, you met her, You met her, boss, I'm sure okay. He started as a tall, dark shadow on the wall and slowly started moving across the room to the foot of my bed. He leaned over me and smiled the most evil grin I have ever seen. All Right, I know what that grin looks like. I know what it looks like if anybody saw that movie it Pennywise. The clown is like that. It's like beyond crazy shark teeth. It

is their thin the overlap. He never had braces. It's disgusting, and it goes ear to ear abnormally large. That's that's all I can describe to you, guys. It's it's bad. He then started moving towards my wife, all while smiling at me. Okay. As he leaned over her and reached out to grab her, I lunged forward and grabbed him by the throat OOO and told him that I would destroy him. Well well, well, well, well wow, that's awesome. Don't know why I said that, but I did. He

then let out a gasp hiss and vanished. This is awesome. I have not seen either since then, but do catch glimpses of darting shadows everywhere I go. I guess it's just them keeping an eye on me for their master. Anyway, thank you for what you do. Oh my gosh, so heartwarming. I really enjoy listening to your podcast and hearing the experiences you share. Larry. Wow, Larry, I I am telling you, guys,

my heart just warmed. It's just absolutely warmed. Thank you Larry for taking the time to let me know that the message is reaching people, you know. Oh you know, I can't help it to get emotion and sometimes coming across us, it is just even if it helped just one person, guys, just one, it has been worth it because these things are aiming to take souls. Okay, people freak out when they see a pet in the road getting hit. You know, they are more concerned, and we're

ready to rush out there to help a pet. I feel sometimes versus a human and we're losing souls literally, my goodness. You know. I tell people there's something to be said about the human potential. All right. These things come when they got you pinned in the thick of the night most times, and you're paralyzed, and they play upon your fears like I'm going for your wife and I'm keep smiling the whole way. I don't know what

you did to break it, but your human potential. If I didn't hear anything you're saying about Jesus to break this, that is my go to. But I have heard of people their will being so strong that they can break that hold. So I am I'm impressed. And yeah, seeing these shadow things coming and going, they're looking for a way in. They're patient, they try to find a way in.

But you've proven that you did away with one of the minions for hat Man, and that was that wretched hag And so she sent her boss like, take care of him, boss, he's too big for his breeches. Well, hat Man couldn't handle you either. No, something so spirit of God in you, I'd say, Larry, Because we have that spark of lightness? Do we do? And where's it come from? Our creator who started us? This thing comes from a different source. If it came from the light source,

the God source, this wouldn't be a problem. It would be able to handle your God light source touching him. But it comes from a dark source. It has nothing to do with us. It was not made by the same creator, if that makes sense. But it is infiltrating and taking over other beings made by our creator, and that's how they're able to touch us. Alien abduction. Mm hmm. And I know some people say, not my alien is a good guys, not my hat man. He's a good guy.

You know. I'm not here to slam anybody for anything what they believe to be true. Just trying to help where I can't. All right, we're gonna get to our next break. You are listening to Dark It Comes Light with Me Heidi Hollis on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast a AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back. You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the iHeartRadio at Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.

Oh guys, I gotta remind you go and check out my YouTube channel YouTube dot com ord slash Heidi Hollips. And I'll be talking about some of my stories and getting in deep with some elements that I haven't touched upon yet. I gave some hints about that on George Norrie's program because Coast AM and what wasn't meaning to be cryptic or holding back or anything like that. There's just some things that I need to approach sooner than later.

But I'm waiting on some information and it is beyond It is beyond typical of what I talk about when it comes to shadow people. Hat Man, it is the other shooter drop that. It's a part that I didn't know needed to be dropped. I didn't know. And I've come across absolute, hard, scientific evidence of something that, Yeah, it'll take it to a whole other level. And I'm aiming to share it on my YouTube channel because still got time. I still gotta still gonna work it out.

Oh boy, I gotta work it out. You guys. That last email, I mean during the break, I just took a moment, you know what I mean. It's so moving, Larry, thank you. I just that human potential, guys, that human potential. We are evolving, all right, We are absolutely evolving. These dark things do not want that. They don't This is what attracts some people who are gifted. Could be artsy, you could have a lot of deja vus, you could

have an inkling, you could have synesthesia. And these things find you and they try to block you and break you down, oppress you, depress you, possess you grab your soul. Okay, why is that something that I have spoken to here on this program at times. My friend Maureen Seberg, Okay, I uh. She sent me an image of a carved head and I was impressed. I said, Wow, somebody did an excellent job on creating this carving, this bust of hat man. And she just asked me, you know, what

do you think of this. I'm like, that's two hat man clearer as day. It's amazing. And she was stunned because she's like, Heidi, do you know who did that? Who created it? I'm like, no, who did it? Rudolf Steiner. Rudolf Steiner, Okay, who's that? You know? The guy who started the Waldorf School's anthroposophy. He was an architect who does so much stuff, just really really holistic, eclectic stuff.

And he said, this is Araman ah R I m an, I have this image of what I was shown on my website, Heidi Hollis dot com, just so you guys could get a look at it. And he said, one hundred years from now, Araman's going to come to the forefront and has something called this a sphere that he is putting people into to kind of trap them. And it comes through technology, guys, comes through technology. We are so amused with what we have in our called a cell phone or our computers or whatever it is. We

are not really like exploring our imagination. We're not motivated to get up off the couch as much anymore. We are hooked. Now, what if there was some algorithm or some kind of pattern put in there to make sure

certain things do not evolve in humans? Okay, that we're not having all of these I don't know abilities to spot these things out because sometimes hatman's after somebody else and a person who's able to see spots him, and he feels your eyes on him, and he'll spin around, and now he's become your problem because he's there to stomp out those who can see. Because if you can see and warn others, they don't want that, because with knowledge and awareness, you know, if you're able to defend yourself,

they don't want that. They do not want that. And it was just I can't tell you how I jumped up and down saying I found you, I found you, I found you. After I learned that, Rudolph Steiner said, one hundred years from them, which is Now, by the way, it's now one hundred years and I'm sitting here talking to you about this thing I called hat Man. He called it something else, eriman. But the warning is the same. This thing is aiming to trap and possess and control

and collect souls, okay, limiting mankind. We recycle, we reincarnate. They're stopping that, they're slowing the roll because with each reincarnation we learn and we get bigger, we get stronger. They don't want that. They want to control this. We are food, okay, And why would something do that sounds very devilish? Oh did I say the word devil? Who does hat Man claim to be? Oh? The devil? Mmm,

that's weird. That's really weird. But you know, when it came to understanding all this stuff and so many different elements, it's like I can't fit it all here on the show. That's that's why there's books. Check out my books, The hat Man and of the Secret War Book. There's so many elements to all this and how it comes full circle back to the basics of good versus evil, collecting

souls and all of that. You know, it's a crazy thing, and to think there's more there's more, and I would have never ever suspected what I have to share next in very very due time. Okay, yeah, all right, okay, all right, moving on. Okay, because we got our emails. Ooh ooh, this is a this is a big one. Okay, all right, we're gonna go there where that's my place. Oh,

there we go. Hi, Heidi, I heard you speak on and he gives a certain network name that does not mine in general, because this show airs wherever you listen to podcasts. Okay, and then he goes, I just heard another person's podcast where he interviewed some paranormal researchers and decided to look up an experience I had as a child. Okay, cool, some background. I am a guy from across the pond okay, and a married father. The topic I wanted to discuss

was the hat man. I am not surprised, And just so you guys know, like sometimes I get these emails and it's like, if they're too specific on who you are and where you're at, I just skip those details because I don't want you to be hounded. I don't want you to feel embarrassed. I feel like, if you want to share who you are are you would do that? You know, in a different way on this show, I'll just say you know first name sometimes and just kind

of skip around, all right. So continuing, I had an encounter with this entity as a four year old, So in around nineteen eighty eight. This is a four year old. Guys, a four year old, and we know what hat man is, right, the devil coming to a four year old, I can't imagine. He has no limits the things that he says and does. So okay, we're gonna take our We're gonna breathe. Who'saw, We're gonna breathe. Al right. I had one other encounter with shadow people once before that. Wow, you got a

great memory. I only had the one experience with a hat Man that I have a somewhat clear, clear memory. Up. He was very tall, as you mentioned. The unusual thing about my experien is he was flanked by other hat men another four I think, oh, oh boy, oh boy, this is a rare, rare encounter. Just so you know, it's very rare that I hear people say I saw more than one hat Man. Okay, except maybe they were

just shadows. Oh okay, all right, Okay, my recall of when I could remember the scene clearly, though, was when there were also hat men. The specific details are hard to remember, as I had blocked much of the experience out. A lot of people do. Who wants to remember the devil coming to them? You know? He was all black, had a cape, and wore a fedora. Now see, this is the interesting combo right there, because when he wears

a fedora, he generally will wear his trench coat. Hey, he has a certain style, but he mixes it up at times. But okay, he was very tall, no discernible features. I was terrified and paralyzed. He was darker than the fairly dark room lit by the adjacent bathroom light through my half closed door. Okay, look at that, guys. My last episode on here, it's called darker than dark. Okay,

people often use those same words. It was darker than dark, Like, how could it be darker than the darkness where I can see the edges of this thing?

pulled the blanket over my head. On the occasion of seeing the Shadow People, I shut my eyes tight, imagined it must be a dream, and reopened them, only to see them still standing there. So quickly I closed them back up. I eventually opened my eyes again and they were gone. That's a nightmare. That's a nightmare. That's a horror movie. Guys. It's like, okay, I'm sure since my eyes playing tricks on me, I'm gonna look away and it's gonna be gone. Oh it's not still there. That

That is horrific. That is so horrific. And you know, we're halfway through this email, so but we got to get to our next break. You guys, you are listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the iHeart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Stick around, We'll be right back. Welcome back. You are listening to Dark Becomes Like with me Heidi Hollis an the iHeart Radio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal podcast network.

Don't forget to check out heidihalis dot com and tell me your stories and what's going on out there, and follow me on Instagram at one Heidi Hollis and most social media have the same. Okay, you guys, I'm continuing this email. This is really really something. We have quite the story, so it continues. I came across a paranormal forum in my twenties where people were discussing this entity. Oh they had Man, it's been out there now. It was the first time anyone else had ever mentioned an

encounter similar to mine. It blew my mind. It was far too specific. It happens a lot, believe it or not. I am almost once a week I get an email that says I thought it was the only one. So I feel you. I feel you. The only other real strange encounters I had ever had that date to date. I think they meant was an old hag when I was nineteen, and then a couple of years later something in my wardrobe that would pull the door shut to prevent you from opening it. Yikes, that is not good.

That is not good. The Old Hag whispered something in my ear as I was lying paralyzed. You know, I'm gonna stop right there, guys, because I'm noticing something here. The prior email mentioned the Hag, but they didn't mention an old Hag. They just said the Hag. So I am assuming that prior email was the younger one of those, the older Hag. I don't get many emails on the Hag. How many times on this program I randomly grab an email?

And I mean, I believe these two are probably eight months apart, because I get the weirdest phenomenon with my email where it will throw emails at me that are really old. Don't ask me why. And one of these is really old and one of them isn't. And they're both talking about the Hag. What what?

creaking in the hall. What did the old hag say? Oh, my gosh, Oh next second, Oh, next second, This old hag rushes through my bedroom door as I was lying next to my girlfriend. Oh, man, guys, I got the chills. I got the chills. It's on top some my thighs. I don't know why, and it's back at my elbows. Yeah, I'm telling you, Oh terrible, terrible who okay next to my girlfriend and comes straight up to my face to

say something I cannot remember. Wow. Once she left, the room was exactly as I had seen it, even with the dog looking at me from the bed, But the atmosphere had changed completely back to normal, and I knew she was gone. The one with the wardrobe. I noticed it after a late night partying when I came home. I was able to get to a few friends from down the street the next morning, and they all confirmed the door pulling itself back shut. Come on, now, come on.

For those of you who do not know wardrobe, Hello, that's a closet over here. This is somebody from across the pond. Wow. Wow, I've seen that in a horror movie. I know I have, so everybody confirmed it that this thing likes it's privacy and closes the door behind it. It's not being polite, Okay, it continues. I was so freaked out by it at the time, I had run to my friend's house down the street to avoid sleeping there.

Oh oh, oh, I would have too. When you would approach the door, a strange feeling came over you, like you were frozen almost, but could still move if you wanted to. There were strange occurrences in that room, strange dreams, drops in temperature, radios turning on, and maybe had even experienced the wardrobe thing prior, but had chalked it up to something not paranormal at six am while getting ready for work, thinking maybe the car was just catching or something.

Who but the hat man is the most unusual because other people have experienced the same thing. If it hadn't happened to me, I think they were crackpots or simply seeking attention. What is it? Do you have any insight or theory throughout all of your investigations and testimonies. Oh yeah, the encounter shape my life. Oh I hate to hear that, I really do. It would be great to have some answers cheers. Okay, so I gotta tell you. I'm gonna

tell you. So this person obviously has not been listening a lot on this show because I give a lot of answers about this. So what is it? Old Hag? She is a minion, meaning a worker for hat Man. Who's hat Man? Who is he claimed to be? He says he's the devil? Now he says he's hat Man. I don't, I don't. I don't know what to think about that. But yeah, she is aiming to break you down, get at you a certain way, and I often think because she does. I mean there's a younger one who

likes to tempt men. Okay, the old Hag is just so gross. I think most people get grossed out by her and want to go eat and wash their hands, like, oh my gosh, it touched me. She's usually kind of tiny. You didn't didn't explain how she looks, But when you say old Hag, it's like she'd be as little as like two and a half feet, Like she's a squashed down little thing and wretched face, horrid teeth, discussing skin.

While the young Hag is, you know, is a tempting kind of figure but kind of looks vampiresh or something. So what does she want? Well, she's pleasing her master. She is really after people to try to help break down a person, gross people out whatever? Do the HEBGB dance? Yeah that's yeah. I don't know. There's a grim Reaper type of shadow looking thing. It does similar things. I mean, think about it. It's like that is the symbol of death, right,

It's like the Grim Reaper's coming. So yeah, that freaks people out to see something like that. And he's huge. He's huge, so he's breaking people down in a different way. I will say this when it comes to things that could gross people out. I had a very very very very very vivid experience. And I get these a lot where I have a dream that is so in depth it gets chalked up in my memory and as a life experience. And I call these waking dreams, and I

know that they are like training scenarios. Okay, and I'll go through it. Sounds weird, right, I said, training scenarios. Yeah, it's uh yeah, I mean it's a whole big story how that came to understand that. But I had this dream where I'm just like you know, whipping demons up, baddies, looking horrible whatever. Boom boom boom. And then I got this one and I took it by the throat and I'm holding it. I'm like, ha, you're done for two and almost as if this thing was reading what grosses

me out? Okay, and it's face change and again I got it like I'm kind of holding by the throat and kind of the face at the same time, and it changed. I'm like, oh, oh, oh, you know, that's nasty. And then it got gooeyer and gooier and gooier, and my hands are sinking into the lesh of this thing and it's just distorting into something straight out of a nightmare. And I'm like, okay, I'm done. All right, that's nasty. It's getting under my nails, you and I'm out. You know,

I quit because it found what my weakness was. I just couldn't stand to look at this nasty thing anymore.

a reason. It's something disgusting and that you would never ever ever want to have around you, and feelings mutual right when it comes to hat Man, Well, he's the devil and he wants your soul. A shadow people minions, uh huh, they're able to get around pretty easily. So you have a lot of listening to do for this program, because it's really hard for me to fit it all

in and just answering right here. But I'm telling you most of these episodes I am covering from A to Z on those in particular, because it is running rampant out there, and it's just as I was told and warned by beings and memories as well that things would get this bad. And you haven't seen nothing yet, guys, because I have a lot more to tell about all

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for much longer. Ooh, now there's a thought. All right, you guys, this has been a fabulous We come to the bottom of another fabulous program. You have been listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast I AM Paranormal Podcast Network. We'll see you next time. Stay safe, everybody, goodbye.