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Strange Things with Joshua Warren. I am Joshua pe Warren, and each week on this show, I'll be bringing you brand new mind blowing content, news, exercises, and weird experiments you can do at home, and a lot more. On this edition of the show. The allegory of the cave and dimensions and later scientists have discovered that plants make sounds. How about that? I'm going to play some for you on this podcast. All Right, dimensions always a tough subject
to talk about. It's well truly unimaginable. And I'm not going to go into all of my explanations for how you might comprehend dimensions. I've talked about it before. If you want to hear some of those stories about flat land and how to wrap your mind around other dimensions, go back and listen to episode fourteen of this podcast. It's called Enter Dimensional Monsters. Okay, that's where I get
into the groundwork for that sort of thing. But what I am going to do is tell you about this story that was written I believe, almost two thousand, four hundred years ago, that gives us insight today and how that dimensions might play into our lives, you know, other dimensions outside of the the three dimensions or even the fourth dimension of so called time, and and how that people have always been aware of this if they were
thoughtful enough. These philosophers, and of course most people will say the all time great philosopher was Socrates and the Allegory of the Cave. It is basically a story that Socrates is telling. And before I get into the actual tale, let me just point out you know Socrates, the ancient Greek philosopher. He was persecuted for his teachings and he was eventually executed when he was about eighty years old.
And they say that there are people who are trying to rescue him from prison, but he didn't go, and he actually drank himlock. I guess at eighty years old he was ready to see something more a guy of that intelligence. But when I was reading about this allegory, it reminded me of something I wrote about and my book called Use the Force, a Jedi's Guide to the Law of Attraction, which you can obtain through my website, and here is page one fifty four just gives you
an idea of how socrates mind worked. There's a story about Socrates and his approach to gossip, possibly apocryphal, that has circulated for years, and here's one version an ancient Greece. One day, Socrates the great philosopher was approached by an excited man who said, Socrates, do you know what I just heard about one of your students. Wait a moment, Socrates replied, Before you tell me, I'd like you to pass a little test. It's called the test of three.
Before you talk to me about my student. Let's take a moment to test what you're going to say. The first test is truth. Have you made absolutely sure that what you are about to tell me is true? No, the man said, Actually I just heard about it, all right, said Socrates, So you don't really know if it's true or not. Now let's try the second test. The test of goodness is what you were about to tell me about my student, something good? Well, no, the man said.
On the contrary, so Socrates continued, you want to tell me something bad about him, even though you're not certain it's true. The man shrugged a little embarrassed. Socrates continued, You may still pass, though, because there is a third test, the filter of usefulness. Is what you want to tell me about my student going to be useful to me? Well? No, not really, well, concluded Socrates. If you want to tell me something that is neither true, nor good, nor even useful,
then why tell it to me at all. So that's the story, folks, that's been circulating for a long time, and whether or not it's true, it seems to be somewhat in line with what philosophers call the Socratic method of questioning. And the point is quite clear. Why should you develop your opinions about anyone or anything in the world unless you can vouch for the accuracy of the facts. I continue writing. Be mindful of this even more as it's even more important in this age of mass media.
You cannot put yourself in another person's shoes unless you have some direct access to the information regarding that person, and even then you should be careful to ensure it is worth your effort to do so. Now, that is all I was going to read to you. But actually there's another interesting little point that I'm going to include,
since it comes right after this. There is a fascinating parallel to this in the Sherlock Holmes stories written by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, and his story a Study in Scarlet. Holmes tells doctor Watson he was previously unaware that the Earth revolves around the Sun. Moreover, now that he's learned it, he will do his best to forget it. And when Watson protests Holmes and periously interrupts and says, well, what the deuce is it to me? You say that we go around the sun. If we went around the moon,
it would not make a pennyworth of difference. To me or to my work. You see. Sherlock Holmes believes that the mind has a finite capacity for information storage, and learning useless things reduces one ability to learn useful things. And whether or not this is in fact true, it is a good lesson for all of us to bear in mind. We should strive to only take impertinent knowledge, and even then to only occupy our minds with knowledge that is relevant to our lives. So I'll stop reading
right there, and look, I'm a terrible trivia abuff. So there's no telling how much useless knowledge that is in my mind. But that's just something interesting to think about, isn't it. So that gives you a little bit of an idea, however, of the approach to life that Socrates was supposedly taking. And one of socrates as students was another great philosopher turned out to be one named Plato. And Plato had a brother, and his brother's name was Glaucon.
All right, so about twenty four hundred years ago Plato he wrote that one day Socrates was talking to Plato's brother Lakhan, and they were having a discussion. Plato liked to write in dialogues, as they would call them, you know, where two people are exchanging ideas back and forth. And so the allegory of the cave is Plato's presentation of this story that Socrates was telling that I am now about to paraphrase for you the best I can, and
I'll get started here. But I think you know, the clock is gonna get us here, so I'll probably have to take Hi right in the middle of this. Okay. So Socrates says, imagine a cave. Now think, folks, this is thousands of years ago. Okay, He says, imagine a cave where people have been imprisoned from childhood, but not from birth. The prisoners are chained so that their legs and necks are fixed, forcing them to gaze at the wall in front of them and not to look around
at the cave, each other or themselves. Behind the prisoners as a fire, and between the fire and the prisoners is a raised walkway with a low wall behind which people walk, carrying objects or puppets of men and other living things. The men walk behind the wall, so their bodies do not cash shadows for the prisoners to see, but the objects that they carry do, just as puppet showmen have screens in front of them at which they work their puppets. The prisoners cannot see any of what
is happening behind them. They are only able to see these shadows cast upon the cave wall in front of them. Okay, I'm going to stop right there and hopefully this is making sense to you. These guys, they're chained to a cave facing a wall. They can't see each other. All they know is that they see shadows of things in front of them. They'll know these shadows are being made by people behind them with you know, like puppets and stuff. Shadow puppets. Sounds a little crazy, but this will make
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night is silver. So Socrates is telling this story, the allegory of the cave. These men are chained to this chained up inside this cave, and they're facing a wall. They can't see each other. They don't know anything about the real world other than shadows that are being projected from behind them on the walls. Okay, like shadow puppets. So the people behind them who walk behind the wall, so their bodies, you know, are not visible casting these things.
They're like puppet masters. The prisoners cannot see any of what is happening behind them. They're only able to see the shadows cast up on the wall in front of them. They can also hear the sounds of the people talk echo off the walls, and the prisoners believe these sounds come from the shadows. Why wouldn't they now, Socrates suggests that the shadows are reality for the prisoners because they
have never seen anything else. They do not realize that what they see are shadows of objects in front of a fire behind them, much less that these objects are inspired by real things outside of the cave, which they do not see at all. So Socrates then supposes that the prisoners are released. Uh huh. So a freed prisoner would look around and see the fire, and the light would hurt his eyes and make it difficult for him
to see the objects casting the shadows. If he were told that what he is seeing is real instead of the other version of reality that he sees on the wall. He would not believe it. In his pain, Socrates continues, the freed prisoner would turn away and run back to what he is accustomed to, that is the shadows of
the carried objects. The light quote would hurt his eyes, and he would escape by turning away to the things which he was able to look at, and these he would believe to be clearer than what was being shown to him in quote. But then, Socrates continues, he goes even further. He says, suppose that someone should drag him out by force up the rough ascent, the steep way up and never stop until he could drag him out
into the light of the sun. The prisoner would be angry and in pain, and this would only worsen when the radiant light of the sun overwhelms his eyes and blinds him. Slowly, his eyes adjust to the light of the sun. First he can see only shadows. Gradually he can see the reflections of people and things in water, and then later see the people in things themselves. Eventually he is able to look at the stars and moon at night, until finally he can look upon the sun itself.
Only after he can look straight at the sun is he able to reason about it and what it is. Socrates then continues saying that the free prisoner would think that the world outside the cave was superior to the
world he experienced in the cave. An attempt to share this with the prisoners remaining in the cave, attempting to bring them onto the journey he had just endured, says he would bless himself for the change in pity the other prisoners, and he would want to bring his fellow cave dwellers out of the cave and into the sunlight. The returning prisoner, whose eyes have become accustomed to the sunlight, would be blind when he re entered the cave, just as he was when he was first exposed to the sun.
The prisoners who remained, according to the dialogue, would infer from the returning man's blindness that the journey out of the cave had harmed him, and that they should not undertake a similar journey. Socrates concludes that the prisoners, if they were able, would therefore reach out and kill anyone who attempted to drag them out of the cave. Okay, now,
hopefully you kept up with that. I know it's weird, but it's actually a very simple story, and it is profound in a lot of ways, because I believe that this story that was written almost twenty four hundred years ago is as relevant today as it has always been.
Because this is a very simple way of trying to not explain what other dimensions are, because you can't really do that in a meaningful way, but you can explain how that we humans experience them that even though we can't directly experience other dimensions because their brains can only only go so far and do so much, the projections of activity in those other dimensions are almost like shadows
in our dimension. They're like the shadows that were being projected from somewhere else that the men in the cave could see on the wall. They were seeing the shadow, the projection, the flat two D representation, but there was a far cry from the actual thing that was making that projection, much less the entire world outside the cave
that was actually the source of everything. So, in other words, there are some of us who who prefer to just stay in the cave and look at the shadows and not adventure outside of that because that's what you're accustomed to, and you also might not be able to grasp why it's necessary to go outside. Furthermore, you may fear it.
There are other other people, however, who have a mind that works in a different way, and they want to go out and they go through these transformative mystical experiences. And it can happen in a lot of ways. It can happen through sheer study and thought, or or obviously sometimes people say certain hallucinogens might help, or maybe a traumatic experience. I mean, you hear all these stories. I think that it can be accomplished, however, by some people
just through sheer deep thinking. And therefore there are people who are able to reach out and experience these other the other models or or or phases or forms that bring you a closer look at the true, behind the scenes reality. I don't think that we're ever capable of seeing it, because you could say that even the most ironic thing about this allegory is that even when he goes outside the cave and he's supposedly seeing the real real world, well he's still he's still in a cave
by our standards. Because now we know there are these
other dimensions that are beyond that. So when it comes to these ideas about water phantoms or other bizarre creatures, or how does consciousness work, or how can we manipulate reality with our minds and manifest things or see into the future or the past, it ties into this ability that that information could well could be retrieved from these other dimensions, and that this whole reality that we live in is kind of a holograph, a holographic universe, or
as I call it, a holosentiate universe, and that we are simply seeing the exterior edge of some of these things that are existing outside of us and beyond us. And this may be one of the best early examples of describing other dimensions and interdimensional phenomena and how and why we interact with it. And I hope you see that the way I do, which is why I wanted to share it with you, because I think that's really fascinating.
And you know, you watch these some of these scientists today who talk about not believing in all this kind of paranormal stuff, and then you turn around and you talk to the best scientist in the world who have won Nobel prizes studying quantum physics. And they say, oh, yeah,
it's Alice in Wonderland here. You know, it's down the rabbit hole, like anything is possible, that there's no such thing as a set reality, that there are other places where things are, you know, information comes from and goes to. And I mean, like, so the best smartest scientist out there are telling us that there comes a point where you can't really differentiate too much between hard core science
and philosophy. Right, Okay, when we come back from this break, I'll give you one more like finishing thought on that topic, and then I want to play this audio for you. I've never heard this before. It's apparently some pretty new research. Scientists have discovered that plants make sounds. And this is another example of what I'm talking about. You may feel secure that you know everything and then one day, nope, new discovery. The world is much more complex than we
can imagine. I'm Joshua Pee Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM parin normal podcast network, and I'll be back after these important messages. Welcome back to Strange Things on the iHeart Radio and Coast to Coast I am parin Normal Podcast Network. I'm your host, Joshua Pee Warren, and this is the show
where the unusual becomes usual. Just to wrap up my thoughts on the allegory of the cave and other dimensions, My wife Lauren and I have two little chihuahuas named Dolly and Lama, both females, and they're both very good natured, even though we're pretty sure that Lama has got some chupacabra in her. But you've heard me talked about that before. And so these dogs, they are never allowed to go out our front door because you know, we live in Las Vegas, and these are the kinds of dogs like
especially Dolly, she's so fast. If she sees something like a pigeon or whatever, it's like squeak of lightning. She's gone. And you know, I have this section out back where we have, you know, a swimming pool and a spa. We've had a nice set up out here, so they get plenty of room to go out back and have some outside time when we when we're not we're not taking them for a special walk or something. But we never let them go out the front door. And whenever
I opened the front door, the dogs especially Dolly. She'll run up and she'll stand right there and she'll just want to catch a peek of what's outside. I gotta be very careful that she doesn't just shoot right by me, and I say, get no, get back, get back, get back. And I'm sure she thinks that I'm just being a mean old guy, you know, not letting her go out there. And she has no idea that if she goes out there, that there are these zooming cars that could hit her
at an instant and kill her. Right, that's not She's not able to comprehend that. And that reminds me also of the allegory of the cave that, um, there are certain things that we humans are not allowed to do and that might make us angry. We say, well, this is a bunch of bull. And I don't like God or the universe or whoever you want to blame, because there are things that you think you should have or be able to achieve and and and it's just not happening for you. But you may not realize what you're
asking for. In some cases, going outside of the cave might actually be dangerous for you. And I mean, look at how many astronauts have died trying to go outside of the cave a little farther. So anyway, just another way of looking at that. Well, let's move on to plant life, shall we. I have always believed that plants
have spirits. One of the reasons that I believe that now is because a long time ago, and I'm talking, you know, twenty some years ago, I started doing experiments along with a Lemur team about our experiments with plants.
We would get plants and we would hook them up to biofeedback devices and see what kind of signals they were producing under different circumstances, photograph them with kearley in cameras and different types of imaging, and without getting into all the specific results, I came to the conclusion that I believe these plants are sentient to some extent, all plants.
Not to mention the fact that if you can see auras and you look at a plant, you can see the aura around the plant, and in some cases it's quite big and bright. And you know, I hate to tell you that if you're a vegetarian, I have nothing against you, but you're you're if you're just a vegetarian, you're still not completely getting away with not um taking a life, because you know, uh, you have to consume life, I think, in order to continue living. And so even
when you eat plants, you're you're consuming some spirits. But I never thought to hook up some very sensitive microphones to see if plants were producing sounds per se, you know,
like vibrations that could be heard in different ranges. And I guess nobody else did, and until just recently, because here is this scientific journal called cell cel l dot com to put out this report and I first learned about it through um an article at CNN dot com by Katie Hunt, and essentially it says plants are not silent. They make clicking sounds. A study finds. The actual journal Highlight says plants emit ultrasonic airborne sounds when stressed. The
emitted sounds reveal plant type and condition. Plant sounds can be detected and interpreted in a greenhouse setting. Okay, so this article goes on to say at CNN, plants make popping sounds that are undetectable to the human ear, and they make more sounds when they're thirsty or under some
kind of stress. The research shakes up what most botanists thought they knew about the plant kingdom, which had been considered largely silent, and suggests the world around us is a cacophony of plant sounds they talk about Hadny, the study co author, She said she had long been skeptical that plants were completely noiseless. Quote, there are so many organisms that respond to sound. I thought there was no
good reason for plants to be deaf and mute. She is a professor at the School of Plant Sciences and Food Security and program head of the George Sy's Faculty of Life Sciences at Tel Aviv University. The first plant she recorded using an ultrasonic microphone was a cactus in her lab six years ago, but she could not rule out that the sound she detected was made by something
else in the environment. Previous studies had shown that plants made vibrations, but it wasn't known whether these vibrations became airborne sound waves. To figure out whether plants actually were emitting sounds, she and her team commissioned soundproof acoustic boxes.
They placed tobacco and tomato plants in the boxes, rigged with ultrasonic microphones that record at frequencies between two hundred and two hundred and fifty kiloherts, and some of the plants had cut stems or had not been watered for five days. Others were untouched, And they found that the plants emitted sounds at a frequency of forty to eighty kiloherts, and when condensed and translated into a frequency humans can hear, the noises were a bit similar to the pop of
popcorn being made or bubble wrapped bursting. And it says that when the tomato the tomato plants were not stressed, they were very quiet, and a stress plant emitted around thirty to fifty of these popping or clicking sounds per hour.
So they're saying that they don't know exactly how these sounds are made, but they believe the noises come from this process in which an air bubble in the plant's water column collapses under some kind of pressure, making a click or pop. So they say they can't conclude that the cut flowers in your vase or are screaming at you in pain, But what they're saying is that these plants are definitely making sounds that could be communicating with
other you know, creatures or forms of life. And you know what's funny, We could just look at that and say, well, that's that's these are just air bubbles escaping when you know, or something like that. But on the other hand, you could probably look at a human and say, if you're if you're like some giant other being and you don't know what a human is, you could be like, well, they just have sporadic air that pops out of their mouth when they speak, you know. So I don't know.
Let's just give it a listen, shall we. So this is what happens when you take the sound of one of these tomato plants and you candense it into a frequency that human ears can hear. This is what it sounds like. All right, well pretty interesting? Huh what do you think? You know? As I was listening to that, I thought, what if I were to take that and turn that sound into a parasymatics sigil. What would that
look like? And would it bear any resemblance to the plant or the DNA of the plant, or you know, any of those things. I don't know. Maybe I will look more deeply into that and see if I can come up with some experiments. But you know, I've got some pretty good microphones in my laboratory, so maybe I will try seeing if I can capture some sounds from
some of my plants. I have some pretty exotic plants, like tickle me plants or some column zombie plants that when you when you touch them, their leaves close up. And you know, I'm a big fan of playing around with venus flytraps. I got some pretty weird stuff. So, okay, when we come back from this break, there's actually another
sound that I want to bring up. You know, not too long ago, I pulled out a rattlesnake rattle and rattled it for you here on the show, and a lot of people contacted me and they said, you know what, I have no idea how a rattlesnake rattle even works. Are there some beads in there? So when we return, I'm actually going to I'm gonna shake my rattlesnake rattler again. I'm gonna tell you why it is that a rattlesnake
rattle rattles, which I find surprising. And then I have just a plethora of other strange and somewhat random things that I want to get into. I'll go through as many as I can. During the last segment of the show, and including some interesting updates for you. So I'm Joshua Pee Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio
and Coast to Coast i AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I will be right back and welcome back to the final segment of this edition of Strange Things all the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I'm your host, Joshua pe o' warren, and I want to let you know that you can visit an interesting display that I
just put in place recently. Of course, I own the Haunted Asheville Ghost Tours in Asheville, North Carolina, So if you're going to be in that town, we'll go to Haunted Asheville dot com and buy a ticket and take the tour. I also created and own the Haunted Boulder City Ghost and UFO Tour, which is a walking tour here in Nevada about thirty minutes outside of Las Vegas. And if you've never been to Boulder City, Nevada, do yourself a favor and go there. And that walking tour
is Haunted Boulder City dot com. You can even drink a beer as you take that one if you want. But what a great little charming city. You've heard me talk a lot about it. But I am a member of the Boulder City Chamber of Commerce and I was talking to the staff over there, the wonderful people like Jill and Madison, and I said, you know, I used to have this museum in Asheville, and I have some
pretty interesting items that are not currently on display. How would you feel about me displaying them for a while at the Boulder City Chamber of Commerce. And they said, yes, absolutely, that'd be awesome. So right now, if you go to the Boulder City Chamber of Commerce, and I think they're hours are like, you know, nine to five every day at least Monday through Friday. You can look it up. Then you can go in there and see two things
there on display that belonged to me. One of them is a real alien crystal skull that I attained when I was doing my research in the Bermuda Triangle. And it's big and it's heavy, and it's really cool and you can learn about it when if you make the trip to go see it, but you can get pretty darn close to it. It's in a glass case, but it's a real crystal skull and some people say that it telepathically communicates with them. And then also I have got there on display some actual rocks from a UFO
crash site that happened in Puerto Rico. I also attained this when I was down there in doing my Bermuda triangal research for years, and this was a crash that happened I think in like nineteen ninety seven, and I took this big hike out into this remote area with a couple of friends and we found this site and there were still rocks scorched black from this thing, and I collected some of them and so those are now there also on display. So go to Haunted Boulder City
dot com. If you're going to be in the Vegas area, come take the tour, but if you can go out during the day, because the tour is usually in the evening, go out during the day and see what we have at the visitors Well, it's the Boulder City Chamber of Commerce there, which I think it's like the Nevada Visitor Center also sort of combined. But anyway, that's cool. Now.
I recently did a podcast where I was talking about rattlesnake tails and just you know, I was talking about the noise that things make in nature, and I got this significantly sized rattlesnake tail from this guy in Texas not too long ago. I have it in my hand right now and there you go. There there's me shaking it back and forth. If you have a pet, does your pet react to that? Like? Does it scare them or freak them out? Do they know that something threatening
is nearby? Because as soon as I got this thing, I took it up to our chihuahuas and was like, and they did not care on the slightest It's very, very difficult to phase them. They don't even like playing with toys alf the time. So people said, well, you know, what is there? Like, are there some beads something in there? Well, let me tell you a couple of things real quick
about rattlesnake tells that are truly are just fascinating. For one thing, a rattlesnake can rattle its tail ninety times per second, ninety times per second, and it says that is twice as fast as the wing muscles of a hummingbird sipping nectar. Isn't that shocking? You know? And scientists are still like trying to study exactly how they do that. But the thing is, if you cut open a rattlesnake tail and I've not done this, but you can find videos. At least there's one on YouTube of a guy who
does this. The most interesting thing is when you cut them open that it looks like they're empty. There are no beads or anything like that inside. But what you do find is that each little layer of the rattle is what they call a button, and each button is kind of like an exterior button, and inside of it is like a slightly smaller button, which is a dead cell or made of dead cells. So basically, every time a rattlesnake sheds, I think it gets like a new button,
and some of that dead skin stays inside. So each button is actually kind of like shells within shells, and so when when the snake shakes its tail, you're just hearing those dried, hard shells kind of like banging against each other. I don't know what much time would you describe. Banging is not a good word, but I think you understand what I'm saying. Like these these crusty, crunchy little layers are bouncing off each other, and that is what gives this amazing sound. But there are no little no
little objects or anything. Again, if you cut open a rattlesnake rattler, it just looks like it's empty, except there are two or three layers of these buttons as shells. So that's pretty wild. In fact, we see what do they efficiently say? A rattlesnake rattle is made of dead tissue and its owner shakes it by twitching sets of small muscles on either side of its tail. So pretty amazing. Another example of the wonders of mother nature. Right, Okay, next thing I want to talk to you about. Oh,
you know I am. I am still collecting stories for my new anthology called Amazing Happy Endings. And if you go to Amazing Happy Endings dot com you can submit a story. Because I've got so many great ones and I've been I edited a version of this already, and I you know, I love it so much. I just want to make it bigger and bigger and keep collecting stories. If you can just write one paragraph, that's fine. It just has to be a story, preferably something that happened
directly to you. That it's going to be short, it's going to be true. And it's got to have an amazing, happy ending. And there's some examples there for you. Because I'm going to be hopefully putting this book out finally this year. I've been slowly collecting stories, and I'll tell you something kind of funny. I took a version of this just for the heck of it, and I sent it to a literary agent that I've worked with before,
and I said, what do you think about this? And I don't want to tell you who the agent is, but I will tell you it's not Lisa Hagen. Okay, So this agent looked at it, and I thought the agent was going to say, Oh, this is fantastic. This is gonna be a big stone. Basically, the agent said, it's too positive. It's gonna make people feel too good, and that's not what sells so much these days. And
I thought, wow, that is really said, isn't it. But I understand this is a sign of the times and this is the world in which we live, and so therefore I have decided that I am definitely going to publish this myself through my own company, because I would just absolutely hate to have some editor come in and say,
you know, instead of amazing happy endings. Why don't we do amazing terrible endings where everything just gets destroyed and their world falls apart, and we will put dark clouds and fire and brimstone on the cover and people and anguish and say be afraid, and it'll sell like hot kicks. No, I'm not going to do that. I think we need the amazing happy endings, and all the endings don't have
to necessarily be all positive and beautify and angelic. But usually, you know, an amazing ending is good because that's what we like. We like good things. So I don't know how how much longer I'm going to keep collecting those stories, but you can get a free book if you go there and just take a few minutes and write yours for me. Go to Amazing Happy Endings dot com or if you go to Joshua Pewarren dot com you will
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