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You link up with the doctor Wilbur Allen through Coast to Coast AM dot com. Find out a little bit more about him, Go to one of his websites, vidia so as a YouTube channel as well, subscribe and enjoy. And it would be it would be wrong for me to ask well to ignore this question, because this was
asked of the three panelists who spoke. Two of them were, you know, relatively high ranking Navy officers, and then David Grutch as well, who came out and talked about the non human biologics and some of the other things that he has seen and found very disturbing and felt like the government wasn't being forthcoming enough about what it knows
already about UAPs. So I'll ask you the question that was asked of them, Have you ever personally experienced career setbacks or the kind of prejudice personally that we know that has existed for other people who have come forward and had these tried to have a sober conversation about UFOs.
I achieved the position of Air Force one Engineer or Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush, and you know H. W. Bush, before becoming president, was headed the Central Intelligence Agency. So for me, logically and in those positions that I held for the for the duration of the time that I did engineer Air Force One, I maintained silence. I did not talk about my experiences as the child in which
extraterrestrials visited me. Both of my parents were SAC which is Strategic Air Command, which is United States Air Force, and they both dealt with nuclear weapons. And in the cases that I experienced, the same biological entity would appear in my room Star Trek style. It would beam in and just stand there and look at me. And it was absolutely abstract to me, especially as a child who's never experienced extraterrestrials, to see this extraterrestrial entity manifest into my room.
But that doesn't necessarily answer the question, so you stayed silent. What happened when you started to speak out? Did you ever.
Experience start I didn't start speaking out until well after my tenure on board Air Force One because I didn't want to compromise my position, so I maintained silence. But in speaking out, I never experienced any malice or prejudice associated to the rear data that I presented to the public.
Okay, but then you'll have to agree there have been plenty of people who are PhDs who are teaching in mainstream universities who who would have had a different experience.
Absolutely, But then you have to consider the technology that I created was unlike anything anyone on this planet had utilized, and for the purpose of application, I took existing technology and augmented it for the application of scanning space.
David Fraverer, a former Navy commander, spoke in front of Congress this week. He said that he and some other military pilots spotted the famous TikTok sorry TAC.
Which is technological organism by the way, right.
Okay, so the very same tik tak he saw that was not a craft, that was an organism.
Yes, my data clearly, Kates. I've got three thousand samples of the tic TAC that it is specifically an organism. What's interesting of the three thousand samples, I can only match one, and the one that I matched was a high energy tictack, which I would suggest to the United States military not to engage because it is high energy and it would definitely devastate the planet.
Okay, so you don't think that there was a non human biologic inside of the tech.
I could not ascertain that. What I could ascertain was the fact that whatever these objects were, they had some form of identity. Each TICTAC was uniform in terms of its shape, but different in overall applications. When you start to do a comparative analysis, it made it impossible for me to match these objects.
The performance is pretty consistent in these tic TAC videos.
Absolutely, they have warp capability if they left our fastest jets, the F eighteens, standing in the dust.
And that's what David Fraber was saying, and others were agreeing that it went from mock zero to mock one in like one second blink.
If you blinked your eye, you missed it. You didn't see it, right.
So, so A, is it possible that this was some sort of drone? And B what do you think the purpose of this is if you had to extrapolate the data.
I believe that that the anomalies that I document it were organisms, not drones. There were some kind of biological entity in each of the files, which is interesting.
But let me challenge you before we go forward. I don't know that we're just I say drone and you say, oh no, that that's biological. I still think that that could just be a whole new category of drone, right that if we can get if if a drone is something that is in our service, like you know, a drone B or something like that, that it doesn't if it doesn't have a mind of its own, that it follows the orders that it is given for surveillance or for some other function, it's still a drone. It may
end up being its own category of drone. Uh, But we've already flirted with that on this planet. Right, We've already used dolphins as drones. We've already right, I mean, we've already done a lot of different things as drones.
We did we did, in fact, to use dolphins as drones. But what was interesting is these objects, the tic TACs, were initially documented and encountered by the International Space Station in space as they came in from outer space and entered into our atmosphere. We have documentation of that. So what we're talking about of that.
What do you think the what do you think the purposes unknown?
Because each of the objects was, as I mentioned, was very unique and very specific and whatever the objects were, they were not terrestrial.
Okay, wait, but not terrestrial. Again comes down to if we had to have a purpose, right, if we had to explain in some sort of broader sense what a purpose is. Are we being surveiled? Is this and do you suspect that this is some sort of you know, an advanced search party that's going out to determine what
the defenses are? And how is it possible that these UAPs that have encountered human beings have done so in such a non combative manner where it was just kind of like, hey, I'm going to go here, chase me, kind of almost sort of a fun and games or cat and mouse kind of context.
They were not hostile wherever they are. And what was interesting is it appeared in consistency, meaning I documented as mentioned, three thousand files and then the three thousand files. There is a uniform consistent in terms of trajectories. The objects were all flowing in the same direction, and they all appeared to have something in terms of mission in which they were accomplishing.
Okay, now that would be for the tic TAC videos. What's the next step up, what's the next class up if you.
Will, the tubular spacecraft.
Okay, that you think those would have the non human biologics.
In it, The tubular spacecraft and the spacecraft that looked like needles. There were objects that were documented by NASA during NASA grumin during Operation Echo A twelve nineteen sixty and the documentation in which NASA room and document it is one hundred percent consistent with the objects of the document in space currently.
Okay, and what and he thought of what those what that would be again, just further surveillanceknown.
Unknown, whatever they are, they would warp buy at warp velocity, and my cameras were capable of detecting them clearly.
Okay, why would there be formations? What would be the purpose based on.
Your known unknown? It was rather interesting that I was documenting these objects. How and why I was able to do that was based on the technology that I created. But in terms of their overall mission and what they're doing here, I could not answer that question.
Okay, because there's a lot of people who sort of dismiss this still on the basis that and I encountered some of them at deacon Punnet my my Twitter handle, that there are some people that kind of go to the videos and they say, well, you know, obviously they're not advanced technology, or they wouldn't have been discovered, or that they wouldn't have been brought down in a crash landing that that that just would undermine any sort of claim that these were interdimensional or that these were of
some sort of extraordinary origin, because how could you travel, you know, millions of miles to come here and land on Earth and then blow it as soon as you came through the Earth's atmosphere.
I believe, I believe most of the crafts that crashed were intentionally ditched, and that that technology was specifically ditched to give us the upper edge in technological advances.
You think they're playing favorites on Earth.
I believe they're playing favorites on Earth.
Yes, And you believe that we are the beneficiary of we fabvis here.
We are the board. We've back assimilated that technology.
Okay, again, we're talking with Wilbur Allen about the UAP congressional testimony. So we had three different people that spoke to Congress, all of whom had some unique knowledge. The one who had some of the most interesting stories is the first to say I've never actually seen one, and that's David Grutch. Did you watch the hearings.
I did not watch the hearings. I was too busy preparing myself for this show. But what is interesting, though, the military is coming forth with some data. They're withholding a fault majority of the information in which they've gathered their objects. As I mentioned in our atmosphere, that exists
in invisibility. So if they're invisible, we can't see them, and they could come at any time in land and they would be directly in front of us, and we wouldn't know a thing because we can't see in that level of light.
Okay, but then how do you know they exist?
My data is rather specific it did and document them.
Okay, so we can document what some sort of displacement. We can document. What can your data.
Do that the military flear can do. Military Flear minds you is six' ADP. My technology is four K and full color, and it's a completely different application and a different level of sensitivity. It's a more advanced system of scanning space. I took a fourteen inch conventional telescope and converted it into a nine hundred millimeter F two lens and then doing so, I was able to scan space
at nine hundred millimeters at F two. Familiar with camera technology, it's a lens, it's wide open, and it was able to clearly detect and record these objects as they flew by into a frame of perspective.
Okay, so you've been serving an advisory capacity. You give lots of good advice, you monitor, you research, but you didn't have a chance to catch the specific congressional testimony this week. Why now do you think?
I believe I believe they believe that the human population is ready for it. Look at all the movies that came out, all the aliens and all things that are presented. It was indeed indoctrinating us for things to come.
Yeah, I have to say, I mean, if one were to go with that theory, though there's been a there's been a pretty ample supply of films for years. I do think that this betrays the government position that some people presume that says that the reason why they retain this information is because they don't think we're able to handle it. We're going to freak out as a public. I think there's been sort of a collective yawn about it.
Don't I don't see anybody building new churches or doing anything shifting their values, or everybody just kind of picks up and goes right back to work.
They've been they've been indoctrinated to it. In fact, the sci fi films make it almost impossible to believe.
Yeah, which sci fi film do you think gets it closest the thing?
John John Carpenters that really interesting. Yes, that's one one possibility, But I don't watch that many movies that are associated to UFOs, and in fact, there aren't that many movies that do present that particular level of information.
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