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So tonight one of my friends and fellow researchers, Philip and Sella with us. He's been here before. He and his twin brother, Ronnie. They're just great people. They're on the other side of the pond and it's always so nice that they're here. Now. Philip now has a new book out called Terrestrial Trespassers, the Grays, Abductions and Areas of High Strangeness. He's going to talk about that, of course,
you know, and say, hey, it's out there. But we're just going to talk in general about grays and abductions and things like that. So Philip, I want you to go ahead and come in. Welcome back once again to Coast to Coast AM.
How are you hi, Connie. It's great to be here and I'm very honest. Yeah, I'm fine, thank you.
Yeah, listen, we had some strang First of all, let's get a background on you. I'm looking at your bio and it must be i don't know, three pages long. So what would you like to say about yourself that you would like people to know.
Well, I'm just a regular guy looking for the truth.
Like most people, I think, you know, I didn't really want to come into this subject, but when you are touched by this singularity, it changes you because we operate by a system which informs us that UFOs don't exist, cryptozoology doesn't exist in life after death, and I wanted to explore these areas and it was only on the onslaught of what people would termine an alien of duction that occurred to me in the winter of nineteen eighty nine here in England that set the ball rolling for
me to understand that the phenomena, it's far more complex than we've been led to believe. So really, I'm just like everyone else, just trying to find the truth the answers and yeah, sure, that's why we hear Connie, Yeah.
Exactly, And that's why, yeah exactly, that's why we're here right now. But you're an author, and you're in and you're a psychic, in medium, clairvoyant, you do all that kind of thing. And of course, what do you call yourself? Do you call yourself an experiencer or an abductee or contact d or.
I've tried to ask that question about myself for decades. What am I?
What are you, Philip.
Well, I'm not a great alien, I can assure you of that, but I think you know, looking into this, you know certainly with regards to the phenomena, it's multi complex, and you know, the area that interested me was this part of the abduction and the grays. And of course we know through the media cartel that you know, Hollywood sensationalized the whole thing and makes out it's this or that.
And I think, Connie, this is the problem. I think with regards to a lot of these subject matters, they've been decompartmentalized into certain categories and this is why we can't make any distinction between one and the other. We know the phenomena is real, and of course the problem is a lot of people have their own thoughts which are correct to them. I suppose you can't tell them you know what is what, But this is the problem.
And what we've been trying to do is create patterns or connection links to trying to understand what the Grays are, where they come from, their modus are Brandy and this kind of like opened up other areas that kind of reminded me about there are connection distinctions to be made between other areas such as sasquatch and dogman and elements of paranormals. So, you know, I think it's really interesting and fascinating, but we have to look outside the box.
I think we have to be a little bit more open to conjecture rather than being forced into a certain mental attitude that I think most of us have been led into because we still don't know what we're dealing with. So this is where we're at at the moment with regards to that.
How do you feel about I'm going to get right into it. How do you feel about people that are just they just throw it at you like this is just not real, You're not This is ridiculous to me. Why are you even here? Why are you even in our circle? If that's how you're going to talk, because really, go somewhere else, you know, let us discuss it. We didn't invite you to come over here and be angry at us. We want to talk about it, learn it,
and learn more about what it is. And I believe the people that are like us are our people that have experienced it, seen it for ourselves, and that's why we want to dig deeper. We don't need the people on the outside that have never seen anything, never dealt with anything, making it worse. It's already it's hardy, crazy enough. It's like, wait a minute, we're not here to say, you know, fight you on it. We want to get together with other people so we can figure how what
it is. You feel the same more? What's your thoughts?
Yeah? Absolutely, I think through conscious dissidence what's occurred is that we have a major problem on our hands, and that is through centralized programming from a system that we look up to to inform us of truths, and of course, recently, as you know, within your great country in the Pentagon, with situations surrounding David Grush, and that with the regards to the disclosure that we want, you'll always get those who will tell you that there is no such thing
as UFO's life after death, or you know, strange creatures from time and space. And I think that the system that we serve has got a problem on its hands now because a lot more reports are being cited if we go back into the past, I mean, if we think about it, consciousness has been centralized anyway through most organized religions, and of course in the heyday, what was the caring was that people were not allowed to think
outside the boss. And what we're discovering is that the mind is far more powerful most people have been led to believe because people just believe, or they've been led to believe that you live and you die. That's fit. But there is purpose behind your existence, I think. And this is very interesting because when we look at the UFO phenomena, especially you know, with regards to certain beings, most notably the ones. I've been researching the graves that have been around for a while.
But you love those little grays, You love those little grays. Come on, there's tall ones, there are short ones that are some are a little bluer than others in little greener, little grayer. Tell us about the grays, right, I mean, they are all sizes there. It's do you believe that they have a soul or do you believe that they are some sort of artificial intelligence.
That's interesting and one of the areas that I've been looking into with regards to the research, and especially with the patterns that have been made with regards to the abduction phenomena, indicates there's two parts of this and as we have to parts of the human or at least I understand that we do. We have the biological parts, and we also have what is termed as the soul or consciousness. And what's interesting is that my argument was, well,
you know, these grays seem elusive. They seem to defy our laws of physics. Most people believe that they're you know, physical in anatomy, but we don't have any proof that they're around physically. You know, with all the research that's been going on and all the encounters, we can't seem to grab one and hold on to one.
I've heard some stories of people that have in regressions that they had that they would slap them and smack them and do the best they could, right, because usually they're pretty frozen, they're pretty stiff at the time.
Yeah. Yeah, And I think until that this is interesting because when we look at the grades in terms of what they are, what they're looking for, we know that through certain research areas that they've been interested in hybridization. Now, it's interesting when you talk about the physicality of them, because I believe that, you know, when the grades come into our reality, what's happening is that they defy our laws literally. I mean, it can come through wars and doors.
They're able to read people's minds. They're very powerful when it comes to overriding an individual. And what I believe happens is that we have to be brought into their timeless space of domain, as it were. So I'm not going to go into the experiences that I went through back in nineteen eighty nine because that's long winded, but it's demonstrated clearly that there were two parts of this. One occurred on the physical level of integration and the other on a non physical IEO was able to go
through coolive metter. So I believe that what happens is that grades are interested in what makes us tick as human beings. They're interested in those aspects that make us individual, because we understand the grades are not individual. And sure, I agree with you they come across with some kinde of clone or some kind of AI construct, but not I think in the AI that we're aware of. In terms of a technical level, they're interested in reproduction, They're
interested in hybridization. Why is this the species that itself cannot reproduce? This is the question I wanted to ask. I mean, when I was abducted, I didn't see any hybridization program. But it certainly created some kind of opening with in my mind to say, first of all, wlough they must be real because I interacted with them or they were interacted with me, and the whole experience was really bizarre. And you know, most people when they had
an abduction, most of their memories were secreted. I could remember everything to the experience that I had, and this may indicate another area of how they're able.
To well that you know of right, I mean you remember, like you may say, I remember every bit of it, but then you remember what you remember. You never know there might be some things you don't remember at all, yeah, right, you know, because you wouldn't even know, right, Yeah.
I mean certainly through the past. I mean, you know all our experiences, I think, you know, cataloging these experiences, which we do. But what's interesting about the grade is that they are elusive and you know that I think that they seem to be some kind of construct that's removed itself away from creation. And this is the thing, you This is a really complicated part of this because the UFO phenomena, abductions and all the rest of it
have been decompartmentalized. There's no way for us to make distinctions between one and the other. And this is why I think we're restricted within our viewpoint of what we're looking at. So within your apology, we go around in circles because most people believe and you know, that they are physical crafts, and I'm not saying that they're not, but there seems to be several components which are quite interesting with regards to UFOs themselves or now UAPs strange that they are.
No no stick with the UFOs. Please please just say UFO, please, thank you.
Please change interestingly, for you know, a subject that's not meant to exist and it's been given a more earthlier title. But with UFOs, so when the UFOs come into our space of reality, they seem to be able to dissort time and space. And that's interesting. And I think when the abduction of phenomena occurs, what happens that these grades come in on a much stronger level of conscious interaction,
almost overriding the individual. And I believe what happened to that point is that the grades then you come into your system of reality and bring you into their reality. And this is where the interaction is possible. If you look at then their death experience for instance, and people say, oh no, I only believe in the UFOs, but not life after death. But we have to look at the
parallels here with regards to ND. We can see that there are connections to be made in an experience of someone crossing, over going into the right, existing a time of spaces domain, communicating with loved ones or high masters
with telepapy. And what's interesting is that if the individual that's left the body, if their body is diseased, there seems to be a correction when the consciousness or starf all of that individual that returns back from the experience, they seem to go through some kind of transmutation, you know,
of renewed help. Now, it's interesting that when the graves abduct someone, when they interact with that individual, whatever they do to the etheric body or the astrabodies that were Because I believe that we're dealing with something that operates on varied levels of reality, and this is why we can't, you know, grab hold of them and say, well, you know you're here, you're with us. These critics are very clever.
So in terms of our sense of reality, we've been programmed assumers to believe that the physical world is the only world there is, but we have to understand there are varied other levels of realities beyond our current perception of what we consider to be real. So I believe that the system that we serve has not helped and it's got a problem on its hands because it says, you know, UFOs aren't real, But more and more people now than ever before reporting them, they're capturing them on
camera and the area of options. I mean, it's it's all very well to believe in something and yes it's there, but we can't touch at that safe ground. But when it comes in within the full integration of individual, that's where things change. That's where things become serious. And this is why you know, our understanding of the grades as they are is rather confusing because they come in different guises, the tall graves, the short ones, the different colored ones.
But at the end of the day, COMMYE, I think what's happening is that they are integrating on a personal level with the person with their abductee or the experiencer, and we are of interest for them on a biological and spiritual level. So there obviously, after some think that they want from us there's something that they need from us. And it feels that this program has been an ongoing kind of like sort of cycle for them for some time.
So it's I think the phenomena is nothing now. I think it's been here for a very long time.
What do you what do you think they're here for? You said, do you think they're here for something? What do you think that they're looking for?
Well, there is something about the humans that they're interested in. We are individual, we have our own personalities, We have for want of a better word, of soul consciousness. We are unique in that sense. But what's interesting is that we don't know enough about our genesis. We don't know where we come from, we don't know who created us. That
story is being you know, mucked up a bit. Where again for a lot of changes within codices, going back into the anti civilian cultures as well, the grades and souls. I think, you know, through replication, through the acts of replication, maybe it's possible that they have counseled themselves out of creation. And this also brings into the phray the life after death concept about the humans. As I said, there are
two parts us. We have the biological part and we have the spiritual part, if I can use that word lightly, or the soul part. My understanding is that life is
just not mechanical. We know that now through quantum research, that there is survival I believe after death, and that the question that I want to ask is if we end up cloning ourselves, that means not coming through the normal processing channel of reproduction that you know, hold on to the memories that we have from one side of lives to the other, that we carry forward and take
back with us. If we go through a centralized reproduction program that is cloning, well it could be that we're counseling ourselves out of that creational that link of divine and it's possible that the grades are trying to find an aspect of what they are through us. And you know, this is why I go back to that point of why would a species that can't reproduce interested in reproduction?
I mean, I have several theories about that, but it certainly tells me that the grades are interested in what makes us as human because they've seem so far removed from the human and you have people who have alternative ideas about them. Some people believe there are from the future. They're an AI construct. I mean it's possible that from their dimension of reality, wherever they come from, that they could perhaps be projecting themselves by remote views and then
of course remote influencing in our world. And this is why people report, you know, seeing them coming through walls and then being taken through solid matter themselves, and this investigation occurring that is almost like some type of medical procedure and very frightening. And I've had people say to me, you know, all know the grades to hear to help us, but let's be really.
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