The "Manosphere": Algorithmic Rabbit Holes For Young Men

Welcome to the Audacity, the podcast by women for women. I'm your host Lisa and I'm joined by the Sovereign Woman. Hello, hello. And unfortunately Gwen could not join us today, but she will be back next week. We have an awesome show for y'all today. We're going to be covering some juicy topics in our tea time. uh more men complaining about women not cooking and cleaning. And it just keeps getting worse. I have so much to say about this.

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Should we start with your video? That one is Yes. fun. we have a little presentation for you. Listen, I've been binging women in men's field and also some women are calling it women being in their villain era. I've seen that. So some of these videos are from last year, but they're making their rounds again because people are like reposting them and I want so many women to see these. my God. But like the last couple of days I've been binging the entire F out of.

those videos and they are good ones. And the guys reactions to them, have you seen those, like chef's kiss. They're like, what? Really? That's horrible. It's like really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is horrible. But it's one of those things. like questioning himself in the comment section? Yeah, there was one, no, he did a video. He was like, it's making me, this women and men's field trend is making me question, am I actually a monster?

And I'm like, yeah, you probably are if you were doing those things. So yeah, Lisa had been saying for the longest time that women need to be equal to men on all fronts. uh Treat them the way, like literally, literally just return energy. And that's what this whole thing is. And I'm loving it. And you know, I think this is the only way some men, because a lot of them are not going to change, but some of them will start to see what it's like. A lot of times, I'm a huge believer in that.

People don't know and will never know what something is like until it's done to them. so I um am, listen, when I tell you I am all for that, so. Yeah well because it seems like men are being raised without empathy and so how do you combat that? Like you can't make them be empathetic towards you because they don't know what that is. So unless you like, right? So unless you literally mirror their behavior back to them that's when they start picking up on it.

Like I had seen you know trends of women doing this and sometimes their husbands have been rehabilitated from it. Like even though I don't you know, recommend entering into marriage with that kind of person. Like pro tip ladies, like don't do any of that stuff before you get married. It's the only and after or after like literally my husband was talking to his sister on the phone the other day and he was like, yeah, like Lisa's just so terrible at putting Costco stuff away.

Like she'll just put stuff on top of things and like she just won't take it out. And I was like pro tip. She was on speaker and I was like, there you go. Pro tip. Like seriously. Yeah, I'm really bad at a lot of things around the house. Like I just don't know how to do it. So then my husband has to do it. And it's like, he really appreciates whatever household labor that I do perform because he knows it's not easy. So it's kind of like it's really the only way to have an equitable relationship.

Just don't do anything that you don't like want to do or that you don't see them doing and then decide if it's worth it for you. Like You know, if he doesn't step up, then leave. He's not marriage material. He doesn't know how to cook, doesn't know how to clean. Like, what do you mean? And he probably expects you to pay 50 % of the bills. Like, what are you doing? word. That right there, it pisses me off every time.

Because it's never, ladies, again, because we've talked about this many times, it is never going to be 50-50 if you have children and if you also work outside of the home. It's never gonna be 50-50 for you. So don't agree to it. Because you're gonna be working outside of the home and raising the kids and doing all of the household chores. No, it needs to be. divided down the middle or something. Otherwise it's not.

So women fall for that trap every time, but you know, lot of women go into marriage and relationships believing it's their duty to cook and clean and do all these things and swing from the chandeliers.

like, yeah, and it's just like, what if we were actually radical with our expectations, you know, as women, like what if we were actually like, I won't marry you unless you know how to cook clean, you know how to put it down, you know, like you know how to do everything because it's like men really come in with all of that audacity, ready to take up all the space in your life.

So you can clean up after yourself, you can clean up after him, you can cook for yourself, you can cook for him, all this stuff. It's like, no, how about we start laying out those kinds of expectations? Because I mean, that only seems fair, right? Right. Oh, think it was Cecilia Regina who said that she wants to see more women walking around with the audacity of a man or something like that. More women need to do that. Yeah, ladies, that's the only way. That's the only way.

Like you're not going to send a million paragraphs to a man on a text message. It's not going to make a difference. You can scream to him to your blue in the face. You can wake up every day and yell and scream. The only way men are going to hear you is to do back to them what they've done to you. I, listen, I don't care what that is. Oh, that was another one. Women shouldn't be cheating back. They should be cheating first, which is diabolical, but I... forward. Oh absolutely. so much.

But yeah, so y'all know, I hope y'all know how to take this in stride and you know, in context. I'm not, if your husband has not cheated on you, don't cheat on your husband. But if you're in a situation where the dynamics are not equal, make it equal by doing back to them. Like it just is what it is. And I'm telling you right now, that's the only way it's going to work.

And if you don't do it, then you can't complain about what's happening because he's not going, men only understand consequences. And it just... It's the only thing that works and it kind of works almost every single time. Like if you really turn on your heel and you just stop they will be so confused and they will really want to like... I mean the way that they behave after all of that is really gonna give you the ick because it's the perfect like vetting thing.

I'm so serious because if you vet using this strategy and you just kind of do to them whatever, however they were going to treat you, you will find that a lot of men will get in their feelings, you know, and they'll be like really gross about it. And they'll be like, yeah, well, I wasn't going to do all that for you. But like you should do all that for me. And you'll be like, what are you a baby? Like it'll give you the egg. I'm telling you.

And even if it's one of those things where like he hasn't been acting right for the longest time and then you turn on your heel and you. give him a taste of his own medicine. And then he starts acting all like falling all over himself till they get you back. A lot of the times that will give you the ick. If not the first time, the second time or the third time, which leads me, this kind of leads perfectly segues into my tea time.

Because we have another man crying about not being fed like a dang baby. And basically we're going off offsets like latest song lyrics I wanna just seen him saying that they're at peace right now or something like that. So now they're not at peace? Like, what is it? narcissist men, it's a really, you just can't, like actually was listening to somebody I know talk about this recently, ex is a narcissist and she was like, you just never know.

Like you're just always walking around on eggshells and they have to kind of co-parent their kid. And so she's like, I just never know. Like I'll have a moment of respite and then he'll just come up with something off the top of his head and like just start beefing with me. And so, yeah, you're just never can feel safer on them. So Offset said in his latest song, you never cook no food. You just want to go out to Nobu telling me shit that you don't do, telling me shit that you won't do.

you after on with the wrong dude, hope your next guy will be great, etc. Which is so funny. I mean, first of all, you have to respect a diva who lives by her lyrics like I don't cook, I don't clean. That's amazing. She told y'all I don't know why y'all are surprised. But the rhetoric around this from the men is of course, like, I'll never be able to unhear that thing that public says about men's like circular logic.

and this is such a perfect example of it, where someone says, Offset was cheating because he was hungry. All he needed was some fried chicken and homemade macaroni and he would have been okay. And unfortunately, this was posted by a woman, but it's like a male centered woman and a man are really very similar. So it's like, but this is men's logic. It's like, he was hungry, that's why he cheated. But it's like, if we go from point A to point B, right? Point A is, Men are providers.

That's why women need to know how to cook and clean so that, know, because men are providers so that women need to know how to cook and clean. Okay, well, what if a woman is a provider? Well, women still need to know how to cook and clean and he's going to cheat on you if you don't cook. Okay, so we're just back to point A because to me it's like there's point A, there's point B and then point C would be the logical conclusion. Right. But they're going back to point. Yeah. two millionaires?

Like, I don't know which one of them has more money. Not to fucking mention that they were going 50-50, famously. like, yeah, like Cardi B has talked about that multiple times. Like, yeah, I pay 50 % of the bills and you know, I don't know. She was definitely making it sound like it was her idea, but you never know. You never know. after they separated, apparently she was the only one paying for their school and whatever else.

So he, I was just gonna say, he did the typical man thing when they lose access to the woman, they don't even care about their own kids after that. Like that man, there's no way. Ugh, and I. sovereign, what if what if she just cooked for him, though? Yeah, because cooking was gonna keep him faithful. And you know, that irritates me so much when male-identified women say stuff like that. Like, girl, you know damn well cooking that man food did not keep your man faithful.

They just sit there and lie and they know they've been getting cheated on. And ugh, it's so annoying. No, not at all. And even if he does pick you, he's just going to pick you. It's gonna be your turn. You're next up on the chopping block to be humiliated. That's it. That's all you're getting. You're not going to get anything great. You're next. three children, right? I think it's like three. Yeah. Well, you know, and I'm like, I know. And it's like, well, what was the 50 50 on that? I wonder.

That's always my question. Yeah. Yeah. so he won. That was his whole, like, oh my God, that pisses me off. Ugh. now he's upset that she didn't cook You know, the logic is circular, right? You ain't shit. But I won because you're my baby mama. And you know what I mean? Exactly. she didn't cook when they got together and he still married her, because he had his own agenda. He had his own agenda. and he, unfortunately he won that agenda so far. So that's the part that pisses me off the most.

But men will know that they're going to cheat and lie and play mind games. When things don't work out in their favor, they just use that as the reason why it didn't work out, even though they already knew they wasn't. Just like the Halle Berry guy. And some woman came on my comments when I made that video, because I usually put Halle Berry in the last few videos I've done, as a reference of women who are hopeless romantics always get taken advantage of.

She was like, well, she seems very happy in her marriage. you know, and whatever. And I was like, yeah, she seemed happy in all her marriages. She seemed ecstatically happy in all her marriages. And they all went up in flames. And I'm like, the guy she's with now, looks more, his face looks more diabolical than the rest of the guys that she was with. There's something about him. I'm like, he's gonna be upset if she doesn't marry him and things are not gonna work out.

I don't think things are gonna work out anyways, but. That's just because I don't think guys get with Halle Berry for the right reasons. That's just my own personal opinion. That's just my own thought. That's not gospel. But I just can tell like guys see her as an easy lick. I can just tell. And she, yeah, she's a hopeless romantic. And hopeless romantic women are gonna always try. They're always gonna put themselves out there for slaughter because they think that the men coming to them.

are coming with good intentions and they're usually not. Especially in Hollywood? y'all, fucking forget it. Fucking forget it. also like on your level, you know what I mean? Chances are he's just using you as a come up or as a wallet or something like that. Like men are the real gold diggers. I say this all the time too. They're the real monkey branchers because tell me why then.

They're like, yeah, women will cheat on their man with the next man and it's like monkey branching like they're going to the next branch, whatever. Okay, so then tell me why every man will be like not famous will be married to like his high school sweetheart, the love of his life, whatever soon as literally the moment he gets his big break, he will always cheat on that woman always and then marry some celebrity like two months later. Explain that. in the last like months pregnant and everything.

Doesn't matter. They don't care. the last couple of years, we've seen this with like Ethan Slater, the Ariana Grande thing. We saw this with Barry Keegan and Sabrina Carpenter. Like it just happens. Both of those men had children by their high school sweethearts, whole ass children. And you're telling me they weren't monkey branching to a hotter, you know, more successful woman they could attach themselves to for clout is crazy.

And that's one of the downfalls for women too is like they will get with a guy that's like in his college football career or his college basketball career or they see they see him as a come up themselves. And I get it. I mean, it's like you want to attach yourself and have a baby with him because he's going to be famous. But what women don't understand is that men typically don't think the way we do. You're thinking about how you can attach yourself to this man because he's on his come up.

He's going to automatically be looking for a replacement for you. Mm-hmm. be looking to better deal you as soon as he get the opportunity because that's typically why he's motivated to be in those circles or be famous and stuff anyways so that he can have access to better, allegedly better quality women. And so that's where women get it messed up. Like you, God, I wish I could just shake women like. Get your hooks into him another way.

Don't let it be by a baby unless you really don't care about him and you really just want the money, like the child support. If you are okay with that, then fine. But I don't think so either, especially not for the child growing up with a famous dad that walked out on them. That's gonna be very traumatizing to them. But a lot of people don't think about the kids.

I mean, if you really think about it, if you really thought about the kids, you probably would choose not to have them in the first place. Right. I mean, yeah, we definitely, yeah, I know. For more info on that, listen to our episode from last week. We talked about that like a lot because, it's very true. not worth it ultimately because there is nothing that is going to stop a man from living his best life. Like, we've literally have seen men murder.

their wife and children just because they didn't like how the divorce was going. So it's like, far be it for a man to just like dump you. Like that's the easiest thing he's gonna do. You know what I mean? That's just super easy for him. Cheat on you, that's so easy.

yeah, but they really think it's easier to just, I mean, those men who have killed their wives just because they wanted to be with their mistress, the only way out of this, it's not divorce, it's not breaking up, I have to kill this bitch. Like, in their mind, this is what has to happen. And it's just like, they will do, my God, I'm so glad you said that. They will stop at nothing to get rid of you if they don't, they're not gonna not live their best life. The ed, it's just not gonna happen.

And if they are suffering because they're not doing what they wanna do, they're gonna make sure you suffer the entire time. Like, they're gonna make you so, yeah, they'll make you so miserable. They'll pick fights with you out of nowhere. All of a sudden, he's irritable all the time.

Those are signs, If your man is just starting to be irritable for no reason, every little thing is setting him off, you feel like you gotta walk on eggshells now, he's probably cheating or he wants to or he wants out. and he just doesn't know, he's taking the carver's way out in most cases. Yeah, that's a sign. and women will gaslight themselves all the way to the bitter end. It's like, get out while you can get out while he's like, hasn't been plotting.

Yes. Hasn't been plotting against you like for too long. Get your own lawyer. Get ahead of things because once you started seeing any of the signs, like it's over. That's why we always encourage. Keep your job, keep working, keep saving. You should always have money to get out of a relationship. Like if you're ever gonna attach yourself to somebody like that, you should always have the means to get out because otherwise you are trapped and that is very scary. never depend.

The hand that feeds you can also starve you or can just get hit by a bus, you know, so. You on this bus. I'm just saying like even if you're convinced that your man is like, you know what I mean like yeah, he's a great man. He's a wonderful provider. Like he could be hit with prostate cancer next week. Like, three months to live drain your savings all that we promised we wouldn't get dark on tea time We promised Ryan.

We would stop doing this Okay, Ryan, you can cut that Yeah, he's not gonna wrap it up Okay, wait, let's keep a light. Let's keep it light real quick with this very funny But short no pun intended tea time about Kevin Hart

Challenged. The hubris of men. Like I really think that is just such an overarching theme in a lot of these like crazy stories that we like cover on Tea Time. Like it's always like men's audacity. Like this is just so funny to me. Like every problem we have in the world is because some man just thought, can do that. I've never seen this in my life, but I bet I could do that. Like what?

oh my God. telling them their ego is you know whispering shit in their ear so it says kevin hart kevin hart has been supported by his celebrity pals after he ended up in a wheelchair while settling a debate the actor and comedian says he can't walk after challenging retired nfl star steven ridley to a race to find out who is faster like i'm just gonna stop there like who Who do you think is gonna be faster? how far did he run? Like how long, was it like a?

Right, yeah, like how long was it like a hundred meter? Let's see. He said, uh, it doesn't say. this is however, things didn't go too well for the get hard star who ended up tearing his lower abdomen. I tried to jump out there and do some young stuff and I was told to sit my ass down. He told his Instagram followers calling himself the dumbest man alive. Well. tear your lower abdomen by running? How does that happen?

Because you have to you know what I mean you just have to think like a man like that's all I don't know That's the only requirement like you're just literally thinking ah by like what ego and delusion. I can't. I don't. had to like use a walker and everything. And it's like, of course not. Nothing, nothing. I'm glad that he learned a valuable lesson, because it's like so many men think like this. I mean, have he called himself the dumbest?

man alive so I mean I hope so I hope that he had a takeaway from that that was like you know maybe I'm just not cut out for absolutely everything like maybe there's things that we shouldn't Yeah. almost makes me feel better though that men do this to other men too because we see this a lot of times where men do this to women. They're like oh you run track I bet I could run faster than you. me, ugh, yeah. like, yeah, my wife's training for a marathon.

So I'm just gonna like run it the day of with no training. that story about that guy who pushed his son or daughter, or he let the kid run out. Really? Yeah, he let the kid run out in front of the mom, I guess to try to stop her from winning, I guess, or whatever it was, which he clearly, our theory was he did it on purpose to sabotage her. Like, come on now. But I'm glad, but she kept going. She kept going. And then she went, then she went. Did she end up winning that?

Yeah. So she, she bypassed her kid and she kept running and people were dragging her online saying she wasn't a good mom. Are you fucking serious? Yeah. That's why he did that shit on purpose, but they do stuff like that to women to try to. It is, because they're like jealous. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh, that she would have got it so bad.

so bad like it's actually crazy and yep but with a man it's like no he had good intentions i mean that woman came out and defended her husband unfortunately tail is old this time but she was like yeah you know we talked about them finishing the race with me okay then why didn't they then why did you seem so unprepared for it like don't be lying my god yeah yeah all right my. It's always the like it's because men want to make you look dumb.

Like if a man is not comfortable with you in your power, if he's not hyping you up at that point, then he's jealous of you. He wants to see you ruined. He wants to see you looking dumb. Like that's why they do most of what they do. And I'm not trying to be funny. That will automatically just make me lose interest in a guy. So it's like a guy could play that game on me, but he's really gonna play himself because I'm just gonna not like you anymore.

I'm just literally gonna, you're gonna give me the ick after that. And that's it. Yeah. I was like, I don't, you lost me and you lost this battle and you lost me. Cause you didn't win. Like this is not, I can't. because like as a woman, just can't. Well, I don't even know as a woman, like as it just a healthy. well-adjusted person. just can't picture being so salty about somebody else's success. Like your partner should inspire you, should encourage you.

Like especially if you're a man, you should be looking up to your woman, to your wife. Like she's automatically more of a badass than you because she's been like way more just like put through the ringer throughout her whole life. There's literally, I was listening to a Dean Withers like video and uh He was talking to a guy who was like, well, men are like women shouldn't be in charge because men are better at like not cracking under pressure. And like he just went off on him.

He was like, well, first of all, men don't crack under pressure. OK, then why are most like? Suicides committed by men like that's quite literally I mean, I'm sorry But like that's quite literally what that is like, you don't crack under pressure like okay, then how come?

Men are so violent like that's all of that's cracking under pressure Like how come leadership to a man means yelling punishment like all that you're cracking under pressure and so like women are just literally better at a lot of things and men men could learn stand to learn so much from women like If your partner doesn't inspire you to be better, to go harder, like whatever, then you're a jealous, I don't know, like you're just, you're a jealous man. you're a jealous, sore loser.

And that's just how a lot of men relate to women. It's like, well, you weren't supposed to be better than me. Like I was only willing to support you and hype you up until you surpassed me or whatever. It's just like.

I honestly cannot imagine just staying married to somebody that once you find out that they're a hater, once you find out that they're jealous of you or that they're intimidated by your promotion or whatever, whatever you just accomplished, once I find out and when they make little comments like, you think you a big shot now or all right, big money. That's what we always talk about, uh Sissy and Regina and everybody. in the black community, like black men will say, all right, big money.

Like when they find out that you make a certain amount of money, that's a precursor to somebody that's jealous of you and somebody that is intimidated by. So for me personally, I'm able to recognize those signs. I'm literally going to be turned off immediately once I know once that switch flips, it's like, my God, not you too. Like automatically. Because I can't, I don't know how women do it. That just drains you.

But that's why, have you been people talking more about women having autoimmune disease and how that more so, like most autoimmune diseases are diagnosing women and typically those women are married or in long-term relationships. And then it'll clear up after they get a divorce. the video of the twin women where one of the twins was like, so me and my twin just went to the store and someone said, oh, you look just like your mom or something like that.

And then somebody was like, I bet you which one of you is married with kids? and one is, yep. And the older, the one that looked older was the one that was, that's not funny, but it kind of. not funny, but it's true. It's literally will show up. You know what I mean? Like, and I'm not saying that just because you have, it's not the correlation, right? It's not a hundred percent. Like you can have an autoimmune disorder and be with a wonderful partner and like that sucks.

Yes. And you can have one single. Absolutely. But the point is, is that the kind of stress and the kind of, you know, just like when somebody's being a hater to you. Some of us experienced this with our mom even, know, like some of our earliest ops is like our parents that was stressing us out to that point. And it can happen at any age, it can happen with, you know, anything.

And then you'll see once you remove yourself from that situation, that's when you'll be able to start healing, you'll start like looking better, your skin will clear up, all of these things.

And that's because Like when your body senses that you're in danger or whatever it starts doing things to like it starts conserving energy It releases like cortisol it you know just start like weird things just start happening You can't explain it like why you're not losing weight like you're doing everything But you can't lose weight, and I don't know how many women

that I've known that was like naturally like slender You know and then like all of a sudden they get married, and it's just is like You don't even recognize them. don't even recognize them. And it's like, then, you know, eventually down the road, they'll get a divorce and it's like, boom, it's just like snaps like right back. The globe comes back so fast. And again, that's not to say that weight gain is like not accept, you know what I mean?

Or like weight gain means, you know, something, anything other than that. But like it just sometimes you see those patterns very often because you'll even start to like. eat more to self soothe yourself because it's just like I experienced this with a parent. It's very unfortunate. It's like that's how I can speak to it in men and like because a lot of men just act like narcissists. There's a lot of overlap.

If you've ever dealt with a narcissist, you have probably dealt with like a man who is very influenced by the patriarchy. Like a patriarchal man is very much a narcissist.

So Well, we got to wrap this segment up, but this has been so fun we're so sad that Gwen can't join us today because her tea was gonna be that this would have been her last time doing the podcast as a 29 year old because she's turning 30 on Friday so let's wish Gwen a happy birthday in the comments and I'm sure we'll give her a shout out next Monday as well, but Yes, we love you going a happy birthday we will be right back with our segment about the algorithms Stick around.

Alrighty and welcome back to our main segment. We will be discussing whether we are all doomed by our algorithm.

But I think in this one we're like more specifically referring to men. I will refer to I did watch a documentary on how women are getting radicalized as well and that's like a really important piece to cover. But we wanted to just kind of address the fact that if men seem more diabolical lately, I don't think that's an accident. Like I don't think that that's just like something that women are making up or something that just, you know, has been happening this whole time.

I really do think that like because we all have access to the internet, but especially men and like it's so easy for us to just like take out a phone, start scrolling, start looking at, you know, social media. It's kind of been radicalizing men in like a quick and painless way. And it plays up on like the cultural propaganda and but eventually it says the quiet part out loud.

they have done like studies on this and whether it is like YouTube, Reddit, Discord, video game chats, like, you know, when you're like talking, speaking over the mic to other people, I forget what that's called. a lot. even pornography, all of these are algorithms and they watch what you engage with and they watch down to the detail of like how long your eyes linger on the video or like how long you stay on the video before scrolling.

And they use all of that information in order to feed your algorithm with what they think you're going to enjoy more based on what you've already been looking at for like longer than, you know, two seconds or whatever. Like if you basically if you see something and you don't scroll off of it right away, they're going to like feed that more and more of that into your algorithm.

when it comes to men, the reason that it's so is like so insidious is because shocking content is very hard to look away from period. But especially if you're a man, there's this like a kind of like we talked about. there's a lot of hubris and there's a lot of like kind of already existing social propaganda that kind of pushes you to look at shocking content for longer because you're thinking, well, I'm a man.

Like I might be involved in a situation like this someday, like some kind of street brawl or street fight or something. So you might stick around and watch that longer or you might, think of that as something that men do or should be interested in based on everything else you've seen in real life.

And I just feel like it's like a monster that just keeps on like feeding until you're basically a young man that's being inundated with like Andrew Tate clips and like videos of women getting like pushed to the ground and like smacked around or whatever. But it's okay because like she started it by being in somebody's way or like whatever.

All of these like really weirdly misogynistic things will just start to pop up on their algorithms because the algorithm can't tell the difference between, you know, somebody who just enjoys violence, like UFC type violence, or violence against women. you know what I mean? And all of these companies have been questioned about this and they're like, yeah, we have this state of the art technology. Like, we're doing everything we can.

And the young men are like, we are literally clicking not interested and it still keeps showing us. yeah. this content. don't know if that's ever happened to you. Right? Yeah. if the not interested button is just reverse psychology. Like I wonder if it's just, no, I'm so serious. I wonder if when clicking that, it feeds it to them like, oh, something, this triggers something in them. Let's give them more of it. I just wonder. I wonder. seems like we all have had that. Yeah, we've all had that.

Like didn't I click that? I've heard so many people say I click not interested on this all the time and it still pops up. So like, what the fuck is that? Like, what's the point? So yeah, so I was looking up the pathway for uh Red Pill Content for AI and this is what it says. It says the starting point would be a man searches how to talk to girls or fitness motivation or self-improvement or even money hacks. And the algorithms response.

is to show videos with titles like, Why Women Don't Respect Nice Guys or Become High Value. The emotional hook is anger plus hope. Like, it's not your fault, women are hypergamous, but here's how you can win. And then it goes on a downward spiral where it's like, the more he watches, the more extreme content shows up. Modern women are delusional, don't ever get married, et cetera. So I guess that's how the algorithm sets that up. I feel like they do it.

It's definitely intentional for men and for women. Yeah. It's almost like they want men to be red pill or something, if that makes sense. Because that's how men get their power back. Because right now they feel like they're losing all this power because women, they feel oppressed and like they're losing because women have their rights or women are going their own way. They don't see that as a way to improve. themselves, they see it as a way to like, well, let's, let's oppress them more.

But it's almost like, yeah. And it's almost like in order for the men to regain their power, the powers that be are pushing this red pill content to them on purpose, to embolden them to, I don't know, become more violent or to be more of a leader. I don't, I don't really know what the end game is for that, but they're, and then they show, they're definitely showing them that.

And they're showing women like, em insecure things or you know makeup and yeah how to be a trad wife yeah self-improvement stuff things that play on our our insecurities as women and things that will lead us back to wanting to be under the thumb of a man so you know it it's all it's all it's all for them it's for the men to thrive everything is to benefit them and it's just like, but it's not working in the same way.

It works on some women, of course, and some men, but I think it works on more men than it does women.

You know? Yes. Well, my second piece to this is like the reason why it's so like I said quick and painless is because, So the line between like biology and socialization and to me, a lot of this is socialization. Like we can definitely talk about how men are more fragile, like according to their biology, that's a conversation we can have. But even in this case, I do think there's just a lot of subtle propaganda that boys like.

pick up on that makes this content easy to consume because when you think about the kind of things that boys think they're going to be when they grow up, like the kind of options they're given, right? It's immediately plants hubris in your head because it's like, what are you going to be? Are you going to be a law enforcement officer? Like you're going to enforce the law. Are you going to be a fireman? You're going to save people from burning buildings. Are you going to be a doctor?

Are you going to be the president? Are you going to be a military guy? All of these things. yeah. Yeah. message there. It's like you control society. You're in charge. Things would not happen without you. Mind you, literally the first person wouldn't have even gone to space if it weren't for women. Like we learned this last week. You know what I mean? So it's like we it's absolute propaganda. And This is like this never ending loop of like conviction and contradiction.

And then they get mad about the contradiction and they go back to the conviction. It's like that circular reasoning that we were talking about earlier, because it's like they'll be like, men are better than women. And then they'll run into a piece of proof that proves it wrong. And what do they do? Right. With that information, they just want to go back to suckle on the teat of like, you know, men are better than women. You know, it's. Yeah, literally. It's so annoying.

their comfort, they're grabbing onto that for comfort because very early in life, they're being told that you run society. I don't know, there's just this kind of, mm-hmm. leader just because you were born with a peen, literally. Like you have the peen, you're the master of your own fate. You're the master of the world. But I think women have to really think about the fact that you have to wonder why they push so hard.

People push so hard, the men are pushing so hard because they know instinctively that women are the actual value and the power dynamic. Like you literally need a woman to exist, that's the most fundamental shit. Like doesn't get any more fundamental than that. At the very baseline, you would not be here being a fireman or enforcing the law if you had not passed through a woman's womb.

it's like, and so, yeah, so it's almost like they have to push so hard because they know where their place actually is, but they're not comfortable with that place. But I always say, men would have it a lot easier. in my opinion, like the pressures that they're under to be this strong leader and whatever, and they always crack under pressure, like we were saying earlier.

If they were to just accept their natural place, which is to be by a woman's side and let her do what she naturally does, which naturally she's the leader, naturally she's the nurturer, she's that naturally because she would have to nurture her young, you know, her her offspring. So she has that already. You would think it would be so much easier for them, and I'm not saying they can be leeches or whatever. Actually, unpopular opinion, the men who are leeches on women figured this out.

And I hate to say that, but they figured it out. They figured out why do I have to go out here and try to be a leader and what about it? But we don't want men to be lazy and useless either. So they figured it but they took it too far. They're like, let the woman do it and I'll just sit home and be a stay at home dad and play video games all day.

You're not supposed to be a loser, but you are supposed to know your place in that way where when your wife comes home to do whatever, both people are supposed to pick up where the other one lacks. That's how it becomes uh a balance. So women are gonna naturally be. better leaders and be stronger in certain areas over men and men are going to naturally be better at certain areas over women.

If two people can complement each other in that way and take their egos out of it and these gender norms and gender roles out of it, the nuclear family structure would be a lot better. Even though the nuclear family structure is an artificial system, it's made up, it's not real, even though it goes against nature, the way to make it work would be Everybody takes their ego out of it and works together.

men will have an easier time if they just stop trying to dominate and control things and just find you a woman that you love, find a woman that loves you. Y'all become a partnership, work together, stop thinking. But the problem with a lot of men is they care too much about what other men think. And that holds them back in life. In every aspect of their life, it holds them back. That's the problem that they're having. it's not even that we don't see nuclear families in nature, we do.

We see penguins, right? That's a nuclear family. And swans, but it's like you'd have to act like a swan or a penguin and not like, you know what I mean? Like you would have to actually be a contributing parent because those guys are. Like penguins raise their young. All the mother has to do is like pop it out, I think. or she pops out the egg and like the male sees it to completion or something. I don't know. so it's like, no, that is, it's possible in nature.

You would just have to, as a man, be cooperative. And that's what men, that's where they struggle. And that's why the content that appeals to them is not cooperative content. And that's why they get radicalized, you know, more and more into, you're a man, you're gonna have to protect yourself. You're gonna have to, you're the protector, you're the provider. But if that bitch pops off to you, then you have every right to like, it's just crazy. It's like circular, circular.

It absolutely makes no sense because you're trying to like take advantage of nature, but go against it at the same time. you said, it's like whatever setup men want works in a completely different environment. Works in a lion pride, but then there's only one man. I say this like every show, but it's just like, my God, it's so easy. Like if you look at what exists in nature, you can just come to your own conclusions.

Like it's not that hard, but it just makes it so hard for men to escape this because like, speaking of cooperation and speaking of just like not being led by hubris, women usually

experience ego death by the age of like 14 at the latest. The first time you have your period, you know what I mean? Like you're just like, oh fuck, like what is this? You know, like you have to reevaluate your whole entire life as a woman. Like you experience some form of ego death. You experience ego death as a girl, you know, and God forbid you have brothers in the family. You will experience ego death every day because you'll be treated differently.

Like you experience all that ego death at school, right? Because well, a boy was teasing you. That's because he likes you. But if you tease him, it's because you're bully and you're a bitch. like, we're going to call your parents and like, how dare you? He's an upstanding young man. Like you're bullying him. And like we saw this in the show adolescence, you know, like people are like, yeah, she was bullying Jamie. Like, my God. So he killed her. Like, so that's the rightful. That makes it OK.

Yeah. So that's clearly the kind of treatment we see. And like you experience ego death every time. you realize that most of the murders reported on like television are women. Like you're just like, man, I don't stand a chance out here. Like I just got to do what I can. But it's like men have to go and like have a shaman guide them through an ayahuasca journey.

And, you know, they'll still even then, like when they come back and like they have experienced ego death, then they'll get praised for the bare minimum and by society. bare- and then they just stop growing. It's like a natural, it's so hard, honestly, as a man to like undo the socialization. Because around every corner you have a chance to take the path of least resistance. That's so true.

But see, that's a part of the reason why I always wonder what part of this is socialized and which part is biology. Because it seemed like they're so easily prone to just going the way that is easier for them. Like they would rather just shut down and not even try. I don't know, but that's why.

That's why it's so important for women, like we were talking about earlier in the show, for women to match energy And there we are again doing labor to this unnecessary labor to get men to get on the right track. But that's the most effective to me is to match energy. once again, we have to be the leaders and show them what empathy looks like, you know, or.

Yeah. know, it's, you know, we still, the work, it just proves that as the female of whatever species, we are the natural leaders, like naturally, because here we are, we are, we are the drivers of evolution. I'm so glad you said that's the perfect way to put that.

And here we are once again, having to teach them, and this is the most diabolical way, it might not be the traditional way or the conventional way, but this is another way we have to show how to be, how to behave and act in society by being diabolical towards them. It's crazy. the next step, they're really not going to like it. You know what I mean? I don't know if you saw that video by uh I think she goes by Jordan the Gray. She's one of my mutuals.

I don't know if you're mutuals with her, but she made a video and like the headline at the top was no contest. Divorce is literally keeping men alive. And I was like. oh. That sounds familiar. So what did she say? What was the... Well, she was just saying like, you outlaw no fault divorce, then like you remember what women used to do, right? To get out of marriages.

Like it's keeping men alive for women to be able to say like, I'm just going to leave him because otherwise it's like he's going to leave the earth. Like, so. I am so, I'm for it. Like whatever works, you know? The more you push up against one group, yeah. We're gonna have to adopt that. Like, thanks, Andrew Wilson. Like, we're gonna just have to get on board with that. cause, you know, two things can be true at once. Men can be stronger, but women can be, you know.

You know what I'm starting to realize? And I could be wrong about this. And I hope I am wrong about this. It seems like every generation, we do a circle. We do a 360 every 100 years, it seems like. Because it's every stride we make, we're only making those strides for this generation, for this 100 year century that we're in. And it's going to be history repeating itself 100 years from now. Like we will literally be doing the same fights, the same argument, the same strides that we made.

We're going backwards in history again. We're moving back. And I just think that's just unfortunately, and I think only certain aspects, certain good qualities, certain good evolutionary characteristics make it into the next century but not enough to where we don't repeat history.

So we take a little bit in the next century that's a good thing but the rest of it is just all circular and it a man like bristling against this or any of what we said, like honestly, do yourself a favor and study male fragility, because that is what the evolution that y'all have created for yourself. And I don't want to say that it's like mother nature doing these things like, don't know.

I don't know if men used to be born, you know, stronger or more resilient, but it's like literally less men make it past childhood than women. Like baby girls are more resilient. Baby girls come out two weeks further developed out of the womb than boys. Like right away we have a head start. Why? Because it's important for nature for us to survive because we are the life givers. Right.

And then when you reinforce the opposite of that and you say that no, men are better and even the worst man is better than the best woman. Right. Which again, it's like the inverse of that is objectively true. But OK, let's let's even go with that premise that the worst man is better than the best woman. Well, you've created conditions where the weakest links are surviving like and and thriving basically.

but even in that condition, like even with all of the guardrails completely removed with with the bumpers up on your bowling lane, like whatever like that does not make you a better bowler. Right? Like if you put the, if you put the bumpers up, it doesn't make you a good bowler. It makes you a terrible bowler because any which way you throw the ball is gonna hit some pins. And so then what happens when you take the guard rails down, that you freak out, right?

Because you also have not like learned to emotionally regulate yourself when the ball rolls into the gutter and you get frustrated. Facts. That's such a good analogy. Yes. the ball just go straight down, like hit all the pins, like whatever. And so you don't even have the resilience. It's like talk about cracking under pressure. Like you don't have the resilience not to crack under pressure. This is the first time you've ever lost. Like the first time the ball's gone into the gutter.

And it's like bringing it back to algorithms. It's like, that's the like extinction burst that men are experiencing. And they're like, no, like But maybe if I just watch videos that confirm that women are weak and dumb and all that, then maybe that'll make it true. Like, okay. think it'll make it true for some reason. And it just doesn't.

It makes it worse because you are, like you said, you're not developing, yeah, you're not developing the needed, you know, it's just like, and I don't want to take it back to race, for an example, but it's almost like what's happening in the country now where black people have been under. pressure for so long, we've learned all the tricks of the trade and all the tools to survive.

And that way when things start happening, like we're the last ones to crack under pressure because we've been under pressure this entire time. So whenever you take something from a group of people, they're developing all the skills that they have to fight through anything at that point. Like there's really nothing that it can really throw at us at this point that we haven't already either been through. or haven't had to learn to survive through from the people that came before us.

So it's the same thing with the men. They never had to learn empathy. never had to, you know, many of them have never been told no before, you know, so it's like once they're told no, they, my God, now I'm finna go shoot up a school because, you know, I don't know how to handle my, no, seriously, I don't know how to handle my emotions. It's like you never learned, especially like.

Some of the rich kids that grew up with privilege and was never told no, and people were like, how did he turn out to be a serial killer? Well, I mean, he never learned any human traits. he's been... Yeah. men have like nepo baby energy. But the nepo baby thing is actually real. Like Norman Reedus's son just got arrested for DV. And it's like, yeah, you had a famous dad. Nobody ever told you, no. you just never had to be resilient in the face of like a challenge.

So every time there's a challenge, it's like you don't know what to do. Like you just call your parent or something or like you just solve it with money. But it's like you once like the pedal is to the metal, like when your back is against the wall, you will just melt down. Like you will have, you know, it's going to be Donald Trump basically. Like you just every time he's up against the wall, he has a meltdown. Like he redirects it.

Like, you know, he's just like here, here, here, distraction, distraction, distraction. Like that's what we're experiencing as women right now. And it's interesting too, I wanted to take a quick little detour there because it's interesting that the way that women are kind of radicalized on social media still puts a

lot of responsibility on women. Like it doesn't offer women an easier way out. I watched a whole documentary on like how, um and we'll put a link to it, it's like a BBC documentary and this woman. went out and she wanted to talk, she wanted to talk to women who have been getting radicalized against feminism, ruining society. And like one of them's like a literal teenager, you know? But even the way that these women are becoming radicalized, it's like, you have to do this for your country.

Like you have to be a better woman for your, you know, husband and your children and like America's under attack. Like all this stuff that they're not really saying to men, like. men are not being radicalized in the same way. Like some of them are, but a lot of men are just being still just fed misogynistic, like propaganda. But the women, for them to be radicalized in the same direction, it's like you have to place a lot of responsibility on them.

And then women are like, okay, like let me see what I can do here. And it's like, they literally have a 16 year old girls, like one of the thought leaders in the community. And it's like, my God. You know, and like on the other side of it, it's just all a bunch of like old white men. So it's like, even she like has the, the maturity of like the men that like are building these platforms. Like it's just crazy.

Like even on the other side of it, it's like women are not being radicalized by people saying to them, do this and your life will be easier. you know, do this and a man's gonna come along and like cook every meal and like clean up after you and you can still have your career and you can still travel and make all these speeches about like, you know what I mean?

Like I just think about Candace Owens and I'm like, yeah, it's like, I wonder if her husband is getting emasculated yet by her like traveling and like growing in popularity and like. doing like, is he one day gonna come out and be like, yeah, she wasn't really like marriage material and like I had to divorce her because she wasn't cooking and cleaning or even worse, does she come home and play housewife? Like to appease him, you know, even though she's probably the breadwinner. I don't know.

I'm fascinated. Yeah, I am too. think, Candice Owens might be a lost cause. And I hate to but I just don't. I think in her situation, her husband is probably okay with her doing all of this as long as she does not outshine him or out earn him. That's when she's going to start. That's when she's going to start having problems. Okay. So did you see that clip of, um, the My Body, Your Choice, I mean, Your Body, My Choice guy, what's his name?

Yeah, did you see him where he said he was exposing everybody? He was exposing what all the Republicans were doing or whatever. The funniest thing is I believe everything he's saying, by the way. I believe all of that stuff happened. Yeah, and um I forgot, he mentioned Candace Owen's husband was a part of something. I can't, I'll have to go back and watch it again, but I can't remember. But in that moment, I was thinking, yeah, they're both some grifters.

And they're both just, I think she's really more of a grifter. But in situations like hers, think things are okay probably the woman starts to outshine the guy. And. That's unfortunate, but I want to ask you this.

so all the ways that women have to step up to the plate and be leaders and take on all this crap, do you think that... it would be better to be in that position as a woman than to be in a position where you're not learning that resiliency, you're not put in the oppressive situation, so you're not learning those tools to survive out here. Because it's kind of like a double-edged sword. It's like in one case, should be able to rest and not have to deal with all of that.

But then on the other hand, If you don't go through the trenches, you're never gonna build up the muscle memory to be able to combat things out in the real world. So you'll just be more vulnerable if you, it's almost like for an example, I always tell people, know, growing up with a wonderful father for a lot of women who didn't see a lot of crap and they didn't have a father to teach them what was out there, it makes them naive to the game.

So it's like on one hand, you have a great father that's like in your corner and all that, but if he doesn't teach you about men, if he doesn't teach you about how to survive, you're gonna go into the world naked as hell, and you're not gonna know what's actually out there. So it's one thing to have a good parent that shelters you from the reality, and it's another thing to have a good parent that tells you what it is.

And so on one hand, for some women, I've seen this growing up, like some women, grew up naive because they were not taught what was really out there. So when people tell me, oh, well, you didn't have your dad in your home, even though my dad was in my life my entire life, but he wasn't in the home. My mom broke up with him when we were seven years old. They're like, oh, you feel this way about men because you didn't have your father in your house.

And I'm like, no, I'm grateful that I saw a lot of things that I saw because if I hadn't, I would have found myself trapped. in the situation that a lot of women find themselves in. And I wouldn't, you know what I'm saying? So on one hand, it's like a good thing. On one hand, it's a bad thing. And then on the other hand, it's a good thing. It's like, do you get what I'm saying? yeah, no, I totally feel you. because I would never want to go back.

I would never want to go back and have my situation change and be different. I'm glad everything happened the way it did because it put me in a position where I can defend myself, I can take up for myself, I can speak up for myself, all of that, and not find myself in situations. as women in society, where we're always taking on all of these responsibilities, we've had to fight against so much. And that's why we're so resilient.

So I wonder, at the end of it, is it a good thing or was it a good thing, if that makes sense.

It's an interesting question because it's like the framing of the question is like the most interesting part to me because it's like we're framing it as well if women don't know like how dangerous men are and if women are not forced to deal with like right the consequences of like men being dangerous to them and to me and I don't know if this is just like my neurodivergent brain I'm like it's a crazy question to ask.

not because like you're asking it in an extremely practical way, but when we realistically look at the question, right? It's like, well, isn't there enough out there against us already? Like it just as human as the human species, right? Like we've already had to overcome so much. And it's like we really should be cooperating men and women, you know, and like we really. could do this by men being held to the same standards as women, right? Like nobody has to lose anything.

We just have to stop giving men like the excuses and basically all of these easy ramps and all of these like, kind of like, know, pats on the head for the bare minimum because really it's like, yes, women will push society forward if given no choice because women are viscerally aware of like children. and the future and like we're just oriented to think in that long term way. Whereas men are oriented to think like immediate power, immediate gratification, like how can I win in this situation?

How can I like conquer, overtake, whatever? And it's like, well, one of us is being taught cooperation and it's like, well, you have to stick beside your man. Well, you have to cook for him. You have to clean for him. You have to put yourself aside, all that. So one is cooperative and one is competitive. it's like not like magnets, uh it's like polar opposites, you know, and you're just like pushing each other away and there is, you know what I'm saying?

It's like, my God, like practically, yes, I wish we could just push for men to like, like we just need to remove the gamut of excuses or, you know, like that woman was saying, I reposted a video about the whole like male fragility thing and. this woman said like, it's almost like we should separate boys and girls when they're younger so that boys can be on like their own level, which is lower than the girls because it's like triggering to them to be around girls, you know?

And like, she, this is a scientist, like, and she's just talking about what we know as far as like how men and women uh react to just like with their biology, you know? And like, We keep running away from that as a society and we're just always it's kind of like you said, it's that circle because it's that circular logic. It's like, well, men need women to be submissive so that they can be better leaders.

And it's like the point B is you're not good leaders if you need other people to adjust themselves entirely so that you can then. And it's like we're not getting to point C, we're going back to point A, but no, you need to be more submissive. you need to not have a job, you need to not be able to vote, you need to not be able to speak out in public. And it's like, we just keep going back to point A. And it's like point C is right there, point C is right fucking there.

And we just can't because the premise is that men are better than women and we just can't get away from that. it's like, the algorithms kind of reflect that back to us.

Like, I don't wanna go like too far off of topic, but it's just like, you know, it's cause men are taught the circular logic that they get stuck in this content, like algorithm loop, you know, like a lot of boys that have sort of deconstructed it, they will say that like, yeah, I got sucked into this way of thinking by a YouTube compilation called Feminist Gets Owned or you know, like blue haired feminists destroyed. And it's like, yeah, but like, why are you threatened by feminism?

Feminism is just equality. Like, it's just women asking to not, I don't know, like to just not be made to feel so different and lesser. And, And to me, this whole feminism is what ruined the family and it ruined the nuclear this and it ruined society. That whole discussion proves, unfortunately, that most of them are not fit for leadership because you would not be threatened. There will be nothing about women wanting to be seen as human that would fucking threaten you.

There's nothing about that that should threaten you. That's the problem. It's like, and I... I hate that a lot of women don't catch, a lot of women have been catching on to it, but there's a lot of women who don't catch on to, you know, like when we were talking about the discussion about men, men saying women shouldn't vote, it's like y'all are agreeing with them and you don't understand why they don't want you to vote. Like you should be focusing on the why.

And it threatens a lot of women's reality too, to accept the why. Cause if you sit down and have to ask yourself, does my husband not want me to vote? Why does he not want me to have a say so over what's happening in society? What happens with my body, my rights, my autonomy? If you sit down and focus on that as a woman. you're gonna have to come to the conclusion that he's not the natural leader.

And a lot of women don't want to face that because a lot of women are naturally lazy, in my opinion, and they really don't want to take responsibility for their own lives. And so they have this brainwashing thought process too, where it's like the man is supposed to take care of me, I'm supposed to be a princess and I'm supposed to rest in my femininity and whatever else. And they don't want to actually face that the same way Ben don't want to face it. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

It creates, yes, it creates this like feedback loop where then women are like fine, but I don't wanna go to work. I don't wanna sit under a fluorescent light. know, I don't wanna go 50-50. I want you just to take care of me. Like I want you just to do this. And I don't know if it's like out of laziness or out of the realization that it's like you can't have it all.

Like if you're a woman that wants a family, it's like you even have a choice to like still keep going to work and like still be like fulfilled and how much time you're spending with your kids like you know what I mean then what's kind of the point of having kids like if they're being like raised by a daycare or whatever so that both people can keep their job it's like it's just an interesting like

feedback loop you get into that I've observed and like that the feminism patterns in all over the world but in Russia specifically like women there were like at the top of their fields, like in STEM. And it was very well, you know, like the 70s and the 80s or like the 60s maybe where women in Russia were like the unspoken but very clear leaders. Like when I, know, a lot of people are like, you know, it's a social experiment to say like she, when it's a doctor.

And I'm like, I've actually like didn't meet a whole lot of he doctors when I was a little girl. wow, that's interesting. Yeah. teacher, like the, the male subjects, like women were just everywhere. And like, it was, almost Barbie land, except nobody's allowed to say that like, these are Barbies and they're doing whatever they want. It's like, you know, you're just supposed to have a different opinion of it.

But a lot of those women were like, bitter at feminism because at the end of the day, your only option was still a man who was gonna become a drunk in his 30s and like stop, you know, taking care of you and your kids and like, you just never got to like relax as a woman. Like you never got to like, you know, I feel like women look at men and they're like, you get to come home and like kick your feet up and like, you know, I'm just stuck here doing everything.

It's like, I want princess treatment on some level. Cause it's like, when it comes to dealing with men, it's like you have to take something, you know, otherwise they're just gonna take from you. So I'm I can totally see like why you would say that because there are women that are just like, like I've experienced some personally that are like, no, I'm just gonna not work. you know, they don't really care how it like affects them. They're like, I'll just find another man or whatever.

And it's like, that's your prerogative, but. Yeah. But the problem that I have, the only problem I have with that is that those be the same women somewhere crying later wanting sympathy. that's what irritates me. Because my whole thing is if you want, like I always say my favorite thing to say, if you want to fold socks for a living, that is your business. I am always going to support you. I just don't, you can't complain.

Yeah, that's exactly, and it's like my sympathy meter goes almost to zero with women like that. Because it's like, those same women call us bitter and it's like, no, we're actually trying to help you, but if you want to call me bitter, that's fine. But don't expect me or people like me to care when you get on TikTok. Like I always say, I'm a content creator. So the only thing I'm going to do with your video once you get back and say, you guys.

You guys, don't understand why this is so hard and my God, the only thing I'm going to do as a content creator is use your video in my videos and make content. That's it. The sympathy is typically out the window for the most part for some of them, not all of them, because there's some women that are young and they just didn't know and I feel really bad for them. They didn't have anybody to teach them.

But the ones who are like, you, remember that video about that girl who was a... uh cussing out child-free women saying we are bitter bitches and whatever else. Women like that, I just don't feel sorry for her.

It's like you did all of that and then now you're three more kids in deep, three years on a roll and now you're sitting there crying and you're depressed and it's like no. But I just feel like the only way to truly get princess treatment, and for the average woman, of course there are exceptions to this, of course. For the average woman to get princess treatment, I'm sorry, but don't have any kids.

Like that's the only way you're gonna have some kind of equality in your marriage is to let it just be about y'all. Like he's all about you, you're all about him. That's the closest you're gonna get to princess treatment. moment you have kids, and you're all about you. Exactly. Correction, absolutely. That's the closest you're gonna get to it. And once you decide to be a mother, and there's nothing wrong with it if you wanna be a mother, I get it, I'm a woman, I understand.

But once you decide that you have to know the motherhood penalty that's gonna come with it, and you gotta on it. You have to be on it. Yeah, you have to be prepared for it. Because there is a penalty, yeah. as if you were going to do it yourself. How would you set yourself up? How would you prevent, any kind of disaster? Like what would you need to have? And that's how you should go into having kids.

Because that brings me to my next point is that a lot of these trad wives, a lot of these young girls, they're getting radicalized by the alt-right content on their algorithms where it seems like, right, you know, this appeals to a lot of like young, white, Conventionally attractive or whatever women just according to societal standards, right? and it's like you don't realize that every pregnancy is like playing Russian roulette.

First of all, with your very life, but also with how you're gonna fit into the male gaze. After each pregnancy, you're just, you're rolling the dice and you never know because sometimes, you know, like women will be fine, they'll bounce right back and then there will come that one pregnancy and it just, some. that. It just it not even downhill like your body is just different. Right. There's nothing wrong with that inherently. Right. You maybe like your metabolism slows down. Right.

Like that just happens. But your husband might look at that and say, well, I was promised this, this, this and this. You told me basically by agreeing to marry me and by agreeing to be provided for by me that you are going to stay this fun young tight perky, you know Happy pleasant all that kind of stuff your entire life No matter what happens like even if we have a child with special needs.

I don't want to hear about it even if we have you have a miscarriage Yes Yes, I don't want to hear about it. Yep. Yep Yep. Oh, yeah, you had a miscarriage uh what do want me to do about it? You know, like I didn't, I'm not a, yeah, I don't know what you want me to say. It's like, you will get burned by the same rhetoric that you support by letting men off the hook for emotional labor, for like all this kind of stuff.

You're gonna pay for that because it's not, life is not black and white like that. Life is not binary. Like either you are or you aren't, you know, like the same people like advocate against like universal healthcare, cause they just think nothing bad will ever happen to them because Right now they're able to work out and eat healthy and all this stuff. It's like, okay, well call me in 20 years when you have developed hereditary disease, when you problems from all the working out you're doing.

Now you have bad knees and stuff like that, and now you voted against universal healthcare and none of that's available to you and you have to basically die in the street. It's like. All of this is gonna come back and bite you in the ass. Like being male centered in any way, being hierarchy centered, putting yourself above other people, being like, well, I'm better because of this. Like I'm better because I do this or I don't do this.

It's like all of that is such brainwash it just reinforces the very gender norms that are going to bite you in the ass. And they always do because there is no VIP section in patriarchy. I stole that. I stole that comment from somebody's uh post yesterday. I saw that and I was like, my God, whoever to the lady, if you, if y'all watch this podcast, whoever said that shout out to you because that is like the best fucking district there is. there is no VIP section in patriarchy ladies.

You can pay into it. You can pay for those tables at that club, at that bar and get VIP treatment. But when it's all said and done, everybody's getting kicked out of this bar after a certain time. So at the end of the day, you're not special. Yeah, I'm glad you said that. It's going to come back and bite them. The very thing that they support will their downfall later on down the road if they're not careful. Because you can do this and be careful and really plan everything out and be OK.

but can't stress that enough with women. Y'all just have to be smart about it. Princess treatment equals being a dink. Dual income, no kids. That is the closest you're gonna get to princess treatment. Or, I don't know, this whole lavender marriage thing. What?

still pays the bills like that's the only dink situation like you should be in if it's like 50 50 might as well get a roommate might as well just live by yourself like why are you putting your body at risk with a man and that kind of leads me to like this is what progressive men are being served up by their algorithm right like we've even had you know suggestions on our youtube ai has suggested that we do videos on like men being emotionally manipulated after a breakup and like stuff like that.

And I'm like, yeah, I bet you there's the shit that they're showing progressive men. It's like how to do ethical non-monogamy and like paint your nails. It's like, you are still not like getting served good, genuine, like content that pushes back on your socialization as a man. Like you're not getting like helpful content. You're just getting content that keeps you on that path of least resistance. It's like, well, paint your nails and you can fuck more bitches. Like, oh.

Like I've actually heard about a man, like I've actually heard a man talk like that, right? Where he's like, yeah, you know, these conservative guys will make fun of me like for painting my nails, but it's like, I get more bitches than you. I fucked more women than you like in the past week. And it's like, oh, so y'all are even more diabolical. Like you're even more gross, you know, like. Because they're not doing it for the right reasons. You're not doing all of this to be a better person.

You're doing it to be self-serving. And that's why, yeah. Oh yeah. person for doing the bare minimum. You're gonna be like, yeah, well, I painted my nails and she still broke up with me and she still called me a cheater and stuff like that. Well, yeah, I cheated on her, but it's like we had an open relationship that she didn't know about, but I was just telling other girls that. But she made me feel unsafe to tell her the truth.

Like I know of a man who was like, yeah, it took me so long to realize that I had to go to therapy to realize that like my ex was abusing me. And the abuse in question was like her being, you know, radicalized over the course of their marriage and being like, you need to pick up your slacker on the house. You need to do this and that. And he literally was like, that's abuse. And he had a therapist tell him that and like confirm that. And it's just like, my God, it was. therapist?

I bet you it was a woman therapist. you it was too because they're absolutely diabolical and they know what they're doing. It's so gross. It's a money grab. And I say this all the time and I'm sorry to any like, you know, well-intentioned therapists out there, but most therapists, not only do they not deconstruct the patriarchy, but they also like use it to their advantage. Like they use it to keep couples like hooked and coming back to couples therapy, you know?

Like I talk about this all the time too, where I'm like, You were speaking to the man like he's a toddler and you're speaking to the woman like she has the ancient wisdom of like, you know, a 200,000 year old God. Like she is supposed to like understand everything she's supposed to understand where he's coming from, like love him anyway. But when it comes to the man, it's like, well, can you spend 30 minutes with her per week? Can you, you know, maybe take some time out of your day to write?

ah I love you on a sticky note and like stick it to the mirror and the man will still be like, no man, that's like too much. Like I can't, I can't do that. Like what if I forget like. to marriage counseling, I swear my entire goal of going would just to file for divorce when it was all over. Just to stick it to the therapist. You thought you were helping. No, you led me right to the divorce. when you find out the man is yeah, it'd be out of spite. Because I wouldn't want to go anyways.

only thing I could possibly think about going to therapy for like couples counseling would be to help Him get through like the loss of a parent or because he's like having a hard time It would have to be something like that. It would never be because you cheated on me or Because you were out here like doing like yeah Yeah Absolutely Absolutely this out. But yeah, absolutely. And. I wouldn't even go. But if I ever did go, it would be for that reason.

For the same reason like when I broke up with one of my exes some years back and he kept wanting to come back, was like, I flat out told him. I said the only, said, I said, you don't want me. I am not the same person. I'm not who you think I was. And he's like, no, we can work it out and blah, blah. And I finally told him, I said, if I give back with you, the only reason why would just be to hurt you in the worst possible way. Like I would literally fuck one of your friends.

Like I would literally do something so hurtful. And he looked at me like this and he could not believe, and I was deadly serious because really I wanted him to just accept, I wanted it to be over. I wanted him to accept that it was over and he just wouldn't. And I had to think of something horrible to say to him, which I mean too, is like they just that far off either. was actually like, I would literally do this shit. Like I would literally do it just to hurt you.

So same thing with marriage counseling. Yeah, they don't. They fucking don't. in the form of like their own medicine. I'm telling you, like it just won't work unless you are mean to them. I don't know. We're not mean enough and, and yeah. my gosh, I just found out our mailbag is about a therapist who said that the patriarchy is gone and now I can't wait to get to it. Because see this is yeah, this is exactly what we're talking about. So yeah, ladies, just keep this in mind.

Yeah, just keep this in mind. Know that men are not more diabolical lately. I just think it used to. take a lot more to radicalize men like this. Like they had to actually like invest, like they had to go to the library and find diabolical books. They had to go to a blockbuster and find the most like male centered, you know, like, like muscles out kind of movie just to get that like reinforcement. And now it's like, they just have to pop on their phone.

They just have to open an app and it feeds them this stuff anyway. I will link articles to that will uh kind of describe the radicalization process, just the behind the scenes, because it really was nothing that the men even had to interact with. Like the content would just pop up every week, they would go to check on it. And um every week, the content or like every few days, the content would just get more extreme. So the slippery slope is there, the companies are doing nothing about it.

When they were asked, they said, yeah, there's plenty of tools, you know, all that. So Please keep that in mind. If you're dating a man who's chronically online, he has all these favorite podcasts, he has all these TikToks, Instagram, he's just always, always, always on social media and he has no reason to be, it's just fun for him. Just know he's getting radicalized and know that he's gonna become increasingly more difficult to deal with.

even if he tries to deconstruct some of this stuff, like... is gonna take one bad experience for him to become completely re-radicalized in like a worse direction. Like I swear to God, this is just what happens. So keep an eye out for that and please join us for the mailbag segment. We are so excited to get into that. All right, welcome to our mailbag segment.

I'm making Sovereign Read It today, so um I'm excited to dig into this one. So it says, thank you, Lisa, Gwen, and Sovereign for everything you do. Yours and other feminist creator content helped me to leave my ex and to heal after the breakup and build my confidence back. story goes. I know that's so great. So the story goes, I had a car accident and got stuck on the other side of Iceland for a week until I could fix my car. I had therapy today, and my therapist asked me.

What do I do when I'm stuck here? I'm like mostly I lie down, journal and watch feminist content. So we go back and forth and she says, think patriarchy is gone. She is 20 years older than me, a great trauma therapist, very open-minded and such. So it's the first time when she says something I absolutely disagree with. She goes, I have couples where men are very emotionally intelligent. This is one case the husband knew more about their kids doctors, favorite teachers and toys than the wife did.

I was shocked. Here I say you were shocked that the father was parenting his kids? This alone means the patriarchy is nowhere near being gone. I can extend my grace for women for generations before, but when I talk to women my age who don't think feminism is even needed and the patriarchy is a thing from the past, I feel lost for words. I don't want to cut off these women and I have some spare energy to explain them stuff. I just don't know where to start. Do you have any advice?

How would you approach such conversation? If this was a woman you want to have in your life? Okay. Yeah. Go ahead. all, I just want to say that I very much commend you on that and like knowing that outreach is kind of the best way to work with people because you know, for a while there it was really easy to have the sentiment of like, you know, F everybody and like, you're not on exactly the same page, then we can't be friends. can't get along and stuff. And I'm I guess I'm like happy to.

I don't know, just like once again goes out to like women being leaders in our society. Like women are just like, okay, well being mad at people didn't help. So I guess we have to like engage with like, I guess I'll use my spare energy to like educate other women, which I think is very noble of you, very commendable of you. it sucks that there's nobody else to do it and it sucks that it even has to be done. But I just want to say that.

First and foremost, it really is one of the only ways to get through to people. think it's cool that you're willing to do that. What are your thoughts, Sovereign? First and foremost, it is very hard to be friends with women with that mindset.

Because in my mind, when people say stuff like the patriarchy is gone and feminism is not needed and all, I automatically know that this person is either not paying attention to what's happening around them or they lack the critical thinking to be able to, They lack nuance. They don't know how to pick up on context clues or whatever. And At my age, I don't have the patience for that anymore. I really don't. I don't have anything left in the gas tank because it is so draining and so.

my God, I can't even describe the words. If you want these people in your life to stay in your life, because she said she didn't really want to get rid of them. Mm-hmm. My best advice would probably be to try to avoid these conversations if they drain you. If they're draining to you and they frustrate you and if you leave in a bad mood, worse than you came type of thing, I would try to avoid those conversations.

But depending on how receptive any of them are, if they're kind of open-minded, if they listen to you, if they respect your opinion and stuff, I would bring up certain situations. You know, like if you hear something on TikTok or hear something on the news or whatever, you can kind of like discuss it in a nice, gentle way and kind of pick their brains on it And kind of correct them, you know, little by little. Like, well, you know, if you if you look at it this way, blah, blah, blah, blah.

You know, there's ways to do it. This really all boils down to the types of women they are. If they are receptive to what you're saying and stuff, I would just plant seeds here and there. Just plant seeds. don't have to be preachy. Yeah, ask questions and kind of pick their brains about it.

If they are close-minded and radicalized in the outright pipeline and whatever else, you're probably, you might be wasting your time and it will be a situation where those women are either gonna be a lost cause and there's nothing you can do or they're gonna come to their realization later on down the road anyway. And you may just have to wait it out and see if it happens. Either way, I would say, this is just me.

I emotionally detached from people like that, just in case they don't come around and learn their lesson. And just in case. anything that has to do with like your self worth into this. everything has to do with their self worth and they're like, you know, people are just oftentimes projecting and it this happens with therapists too. And it's like, I just don't know a world in which I would want to continue seeing that person as a therapist because it's like what is not clicking to you?

Like when you look around, just very interesting that she was able to have these views based on like one case. Like she was like, yeah, like, oh, men these days know more about women than women or like children than women do. And it's like, okay, how many men? well, I had this one guy the other day. Okay, one guy. over like, you know, you could ask questions like kind of leading questions, you know, like so. How many men like that do you encounter in your day-to-day life?

Like is your husband like that? Is every man you deal with like that? Okay, so then we can't generalize that yet, right? This is an exception actually. is not, uh you can't extrapolate that. And it's like, you should have learned that in therapist school. You should have learned research methods There's like a class four, it's like statistics, research, all of that. You have to know what makes something a statistic.

You have to know what makes something, something that you can say that about, well, men these days, because the only thing we can say that about is male violence statistics. Like we know that, running off on their children's statistics. We know that we have a lot of those numbers. So it's like going off of that. is very different than going off of like one privileged couple, because mind you again, you're a therapist.

So you're probably not seeing people that are in survival mode, like people that are broke, people that are struggling. You're seeing again, a man on the path of least, he's on the path of least resistance somehow, I promise you that, you know, and if he's not, then good for him. But like that was probably a lot of like his wife doing mental labor or refusing to do it. You know, it always still comes down to the women. Like, why is that man like?

and it could be a situation too where maybe though the kids are not even his and maybe she I mean hers and she married into a situation where it's like she checked out because is no it's no telling how why that was the case but You know what?

think with women therapists that are like this if you think of the curriculum and the same way that a lot of drugs and a lot of Innovative technologies and stuff, how it was all made for men in the same way when you think of like the psychologists back in the day were mostly all men. I think that when you learn, so you have to take psychology and all these courses in college. I think it's all male centered. And so women go to college and they're like, this is in the psychology books.

So this is the way that I have to look at this. So I think a lot of women will turn off their own their own nuance. They'll turn off their own context clues in their brain because this is what I was taught in school. I think that's why a lot of women therapists, the ones that are like this, I think that's where that comes from. They're already male centered because of how they were most likely socialized in society.

And then on top of that, they double down on their beliefs by going to school that was created by men. you know what I'm saying? Like the whole thought process behind psychology. was Freud and Erickson and all these other people.

I don't even know if the women, I feel like they should be educated enough to know that there is nuance to a lot of this, but some of them are so If I were to ever come across a woman therapist like that, I would challenge the fuck out of her, because that's just the way my brain works. I can't not challenge you on my way out the door, because I'm probably going to leave. But before I leave, I'm going to be petty. I'm going be a petty bitch, and I'm going to challenge the fuck out of you.

And then hopefully you might see, because I do, I talk to people all the time. and you know, they tell me, you know, I never really thought about it that way before. Oh, you know, that's an interesting thing. And I can talk to people like that, you know, because they're a little bit more open-minded. So if these women in your life are open-minded, I would definitely plant seeds. If not, don't waste your time. Don't do what I would do.

I would be petty and like, you know, challenge the therapist because I get a kick out of shit like that. But you know, don't do that unless it's fun for you. Yeah. like, like I said, I do think that is kind of the way forward. Like if you see women that are on the right side, but not quite, you know, there's a lot of like male centered women on the left, but they're like, you know, 25 % male centered or like, you know, it's not as bad.

It's like you, you still are working on like purging the male gaze from like your internal like compass, you're still kind of like learning what you like versus like, you know, being a cool girl, all that stuff, that's normal. That's just part of like the decentering men process as part of the centering yourself process. In that process, you will also find that a lot of women are not on your side, you know what I mean?

Like that's something that, you know, you'll find out how to gauge for male centered women and you'll find out which women can be worked with, which women cannot, because it is, it can be hard to make friends, because very few women are on the lower end of that spectrum where it's like, they've really done the work.

And for most of us, the work is gonna be lifelong, it's gonna be like in the little things, it's it might be, you know, cropping up everywhere because... where sometimes we're forced into these behaviors like to stay safe or to stay relevant or something like that because it's like funny that a lot of women have a lot to say about

other women getting plastic surgery and yet it's the women that will be you know the most critical of other women's appearance and so it's like we live in this very double edged we have to walk on a double edged sword where it's like we're just never quite safe around men, around women, like whatever.

But um I do think that the antidote is just to like shine a light by asking questions, by pointing out, like you said, the inconsistencies, like even if it sometimes does come down to pettiness, it's like, well, a seed was planted, you know what I mean? It is what it is, so. how you can really do is plant seeds and don't attach yourself to the outcome. That's very important. Don't go in thinking you have to change somebody's mindset. Just your job is to plant the seeds and go.

you know, hopefully the seed will germinate soon right after. Maybe it might not germinate for another couple months or another few years maybe. But as long as the seed is planted, that's all you can do. Don't stress out about it after the fact. Just move on to, I don't know, focus on whatever you do every day. Or focus on the friends of yours that you may have that are very open-minded. Have discussions with them.

Yeah. And like, just to wrap it up, it's also like, think context of like where you live is also important because like Iceland, yeah, you know what I mean? But it's like, it's good to remind people of like, there's countries like America, there's countries like America where women don't have rights. So it's like, no, the the patriarchy is still very much in full swing. you know what I mean?

Even more so than America, there's like countries in the Middle East, there's countries in Africa where like female genital mutilation is still happening. So it's like, we are, how can you say that the patriarchy is gone? That's crazy. They just want to believe that because it helps them. I think it's a survival, like a defense mechanism for some women. for like boomer aged women. Like a lot of times they're like, yeah, racism is done. We dealt with it, you know, like sexism done.

Like it's like, yeah, we're, mechanism because people don't, especially when you're a boomer age and you're like nearing the end of your life, you really don't want to accept that this is the world that you had to live in and your time is almost out and nothing has changed. Yeah, yeah, that's hard to accept that. It's almost like the midlife crisis thing. When people have a midlife crisis, people just, they're going through this like internal, internal battle and you have to come to terms.

And a lot, this is why a lot of people suffer from cognitive dissonance. Yep. they just don't want to accept. You you have this, you're holding on to this one thought, but reality is showing you the exact opposite. But you are still fighting against, you know, what's actually happening because you're fighting yourself. You don't want to let go of those ideologies. And, you know, I think that's where that comes from. And we all suffer.

We all suffer with that when it comes to different things at different times. You know, like I think we've all had cognitive dissonance about a lot of things at some point in time in life. Yeah. But some people just get stuck in it. It is, it's very much a part of it. But some people just get stuck in that and they don't know how to get out.

And so a woman at her big age, I'm assuming, saying that we're not in patriarchy, like, come on, like you, you can't be, no. Yeah, and it's like, just because things have maybe have improved, like that doesn't mean the fight is over. That doesn't mean we're not constantly fighting against like a stream that wants to take us somewhere else. Because, you know, men are always waiting for this. Like they're lying in the grass like snakes, I swear. Because that's what happened in America.

Like as soon as they were given permission, it's like, your body, my choice. Absolutely. a trad wife. Every man should have a government mandated woman. Like it just popped off. We were literally like dressing up all in pink and going to see the Barbie movie the year prior. You know what I mean? And it like it just like that right on cue. It's like we came back and it was the Mojo Dojo Casa House. It's like it's crazy. So things can change really fucking quick.

And like it's It's uh unfortunately for us, like men are just always waiting for us to become more vulnerable or like whatever, like they're just always trying to work against this because they're insecure. Like this is kind of goes back to the main segment. It's like men are forced to operate out of fear and women are forced to operate out of survival. And it explains everything like that we see. That's why women are just like, less prone to crack under pressure, like whatever.

It's been survival. Like you said, sovereign, this applies, you know, intersectionally as well. It's like when it comes to white people, versus people of color, it's like you just have been allowed to get away with the barest of minimums. And that's not helpful to your growth as a person. Like that's why, you know, you're less creative. That's why you got to copy everything somebody else does. Like you have not been working out those muscles. So those muscles are weak.

So. the barest of minimums. I love it.

All right. Well, I think it's about time to wrap this up. Let's read through our polls. We had a very interesting poll question. We now post them to our YouTube as well. So we have three different poll sources. This is turning into like a research facility. Um, so our latest question was, With conservatives fighting to take more and more rights away from women, which rights would you most like to see taken away from men? So we had, uh A was Viagra.

And the reasoning was if it doesn't work, maybe that's just mother nature saying you're not good enough to reproduce, big guy. Podcasting, uh Every Mike Confiscated is one less alpha male monologue about crypto and women's market value. uh Hair transplants. they should suffer in their male pattern baldness as God ordained or being outside at night unsupervised. Welcome to the text me when you get home club. So which right would you most like to see taken away from men? That was the clear winner.

Yes, yes. Well, I think that's the one that like really every woman experiences, right? It's like. We not all of us want to get like gender affirming surgery, you know, like a hair transplant or whatever. But like there is that like visceral fear of like being outside at night that men also like to weaponize against us. Well, who would protect you? And it's like, my God. Yes. Every single time. It's like. Yes. So. dog, a rabid fucking coyote that got loose? Well, coyotes are always loose.

But you know what I mean? What are you protecting us from? I'm like, what exactly? I can't. been saying that like, you know, maybe men should have the same fear. Like maybe women should be the ones saying that. Well, who's going to protect you when you go outside at night and the men are going to be like, oh, from whom? And be like, I'm me, me and my girls, because you went outside, you're wearing your chains, you're wearing your watch, you're wearing your expensive shoes.

That means you want somebody to take it. That means you'd be okay if you got jumped and all that shit got stolen, right? I mean, that means it's okay if there's a roving gang of women, you know, with like bats and tasers and stuff that's just like, stop right there and give me all of your valuables. Give me all of your money. You were gonna, you had a wad of cash you were gonna go to the strip club with. no more. Cause you're not safe at night.

You better bring your, you know what I You better wear your cheap clothes. You better wear your fake chain. You better wear, like, take care. what you just said just reminded me of that video of that clip and I just shared it and it's like I don't know if he can play that or not, but I just want you to hear it. the hashtag across the video is women in male fields. But here we go. They're at a party. You I that, I died.

Oh my God, because that's literally every woman on the planet has had to go through that at least once. You just want to hang out with your friends at the club or whatever and a guy, well you show dressed like a whore or you look like you, know. I watched that like, I don't know how many times, I died like. She said, you're fat anyway. So fuck you, you're The sound of her voice was so funny.

creator that does the like, if we talk to men the way that we talk to women, role reversals we'll have to link her because I always forget the people's name. I've never been able to like remember someone's username, But yeah, but I remember her posting like all of these scenarios like over and over again. And it's so helpful to see just how crazy we talk to women like, you know, because she'd be like, Oh, Brad, did you bring your um kid to work today?

Oh, you know, like that's really like irresponsible, but I guess we can like deal with it. Yeah, you know, Brad, this is why we don't really hire dads because you guys really like fuck up the synergy around the office and like you always got your kids and you're just so undependable. You know what I mean? It's like, I bet your wife doesn't do this to her boss. I bet she never has to pick up her kid. And it's like, yeah, exactly. I just love it. So we need to make that popular.

Like we really need to put that out in the ether. Like women, more women need to participate. Even if you're just joking, even if you're just, even if it's just satire, like you literally need to like. you, like in the face of like us possibly losing more rights and all of that, ladies, it's really important to not live in fear.

The only reason that they're doing this, the only reason the pushback is so huge and monumental and like they're trying to take our rights away is because they're fucking scared. It's because whatever we're doing is fucking working and it's like they're shaking in their boots. And so.

this is the extinction burst, you know, this is them trying the last, possible grip on like this fake reality that they've created, like the simulated environment that they've created that women are like, waking up and destroying the matrix. take up space, continue taking up space, continue asking the questions, continue flipping the scenarios.

Be difficult, exactly, And like, of course, mind your safety and everything, but like, do not be afraid to like take up space, protect yourself legally, protect yourself physically, all that. you know, it's important to not back down right now, so.

It's important that women do this because a lot of women are afraid to because they are afraid of what will happen But what will actually end up happening is that you it will embolden you to not live in fear even more Like once you stand up for yourself that one time you're gonna be like that felt really good I'm gonna keep doing that shit, you know, and so it's the it's a snowball effect. uh Absolutely mean?

Like some women might not like it, some men might not like it, but I've never been mean to a man and like it turned the relationship for the worse. It always turned it for the better. The only thing that turns it for the worse is like, you know, laying yourself out as a mat. Like then they'll just know that they can keep doing it. They can keep walking all over you. But every time you stand up to a man, he actually respects you a little bit more because that's just how they're wired to work.

They're wired that submission means you like agree with them and like, know, whatever you're not gonna push back. And it's like, you have to push back on that because men just don't respect submissive women. They want submissive women, but they don't respect them. So you're never gonna regret being mean. in getting you and wanting you is so that they, so that they don't have to respect you. That they want you so that they don't have to respect you. They want you in a corner.

They want you so to be their servant or to be whatever, but you're not to be respected. You're not on the same level as me. And it's the same thing too with women who are bullies. A lot of times, once you stand up to a woman bully, like they will typically, Depending on the way you stand up, like your method of standing up for yourself, they will typically leave you alone or y'all will become cool. I've become cool with women over the years because they realize you're not a pushover.

And sometimes it'll force women to respect you more when you stand up for yourself. But the more you cower down and the more you let people get away with things, the worse it gets every time, whether you're dealing with men or women. So just remember, stand up for yourself. You're gonna love how it feels that first time. I guarantee it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it builds. And there are women out there like in society that people just don't mess with.

Like their whole community will know, that's Ms. You know, so and so we don't mess with her. And it's just because she has in her usually her older age become completely mean, unapologetic and fucking like just gets what she wants at any cost. Like it is what it is. But listen. It's a recipe and we must not lose the recipes, okay? The recipe of the crown, the recipe of the mean, bitter old woman is not to be lost. All right, ladies, and start it as young as possible, you know what I mean?

This male validation is cheap and pointless and will get you nowhere, without going off in like a whole different, a whole nother podcast, but yeah. that leads us until our crumpets. ah Yeah, is it better to be loved or feared? Yeah. into it. And we'll list the recommendations below. I have a recommendation for a BBC documentary and then I have the articles, like I said, that I used for to cite this research just so that y'all are aware the algorithms don't just work by engagement.

it's a path of least resistance type thing. Yeah, it just kind of gets pushed out. yeah, y'all can do. your own like in-depth reading on that because we just don't have time to cover this kind of stuff in the main segment. But we hope you enjoy it. Please, you know, if you haven't, follow us on the socials, join the Patreon. Rate us five stars, share with a friend, all that good stuff. And Godspeed, ladies. We love you. Bye. Bye. Yay!