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Madame Web- We need Madame Web 2 yesterday!!!

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On this week's episode we're taking a look into the future with Madame Web. It wasn't that bad. Don't believe the anti-hype. Also on this episode, Suesie misunderstands uncle Ben's relationships. Frank realizes the pain of knowing about the Golden Granny. Intro and outro is Rebel Girl by Bikini Kill.

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Welcome to teen Girl Talk. Teen Girl Talk. I'm Susie Coda, I am Frank Flamcoda, and this week we are Madame Webb. I'll say, I don't why is everyone so bad? It's not the worst movie I've ever seen? I really don't get it. I like, I watched so I

just saw this movie. It's like hot off the presses for me. And I got home and I started watching the Amanda the Jedi video about it, and she made I only still like the ten minutes or so, and she made the point that she's seen way worse stuff this year, and I kind of agree, like I was ever so bad? I mean, the other part is I'm a like, let me preface that with I'm a person who loved Morbius, loved both the Venom movies, like I can't be trusted.

I also know nothing about comics, So okay, So Eddie is it? Bru Bank, the guy who did the went to every Rainforest cafe in America Trip Back Back, Thank You. He watched Morbius seven days in a row when it came out, but he bought a ticket to everything everywhere, all once, which is the correct way to see that. Yeah, And yeah, I like Morbius was terrible. Okay, So I think I I'm not that angry about this film. I think this film could have been way better.

I think it had potential. I think with like another half hour or just like two okay, or just like a good montage in there in a few places, or like two or three things. Okay, So I can I can break down. I think the different levels of people being angry. I mean, here's the other part. I think that the people who are upset about it and I are looking for totally different stuff. Because I was happy there was no big CGI fight scene. I was happy that it just

sort of was like a human interest story. I guess we're or less. But okay, tell me why the comic book nerds are bad, because I don't understand. Okay. Well, I was gonna say, well, you have your usual batch of misogynists. They're just angry got that movie star women. Then you have the comic book fans who are just like, oh, there's three really cool characters who are being underutilized. Then you have but this

is like a pre origin story, isn't it. Yeah, But like the characters are all like they've been around for a while, and I think this isn't starting at the point where they've been around. They're not even superheroes yet. Well that's my I mean, that's kind of my main complaints. They don't even become superheroes by the end. I'm like, okay, cool, So they'll get into the costume soon, Okay, so Web becomes this superhero. Yeah, and what you see at the end is kind of all Madam

Webb does in comics. You just kind of it's fine. I don't really need her to do more. I mean, so I saw stills from the comic book that she's supposed to be elderly, but you know, I thought it was fine. Of I mean, it's I don't know, I guess

I'm just sort of okay. The other part is that I am reading a book about the nineteen eighty four Dune and how everyone was really anticipating this film coming out, but then the press around it was so negative that they went over budget, that they weren't staying true to the text, and it was

basically dead in the water. But overseas it did really well, and it actually did well by word of mouth, and they tracked that through that there was an uptick the longer it was in theaters, versus like when a movie is advertised a lot and gets the first big rushes within the two three weeks and then sort of peters out. I am not applying this to, you know, nineteen eighty four dude, but I sort of wonder if Madame Webb

is just suffering. Like everyone keeps saying like, well, we knew this was a stinker, and I'm like, how, you know, Like I I would rather watch this than Top Gun Maverick any day, any day. I mean, its inexplicable to me that everyone I mentioned Top Gun Maverick too, was like, that's a pretty good movie, and I was like, what are you talking about? Did we watch the same bill? Yeah, Like, okay, I've never seen Top Gun Maverick. I saw the original

Top Gun. I refereed a drinking game for the original Top Gun. But like, you know, it's I think it's just like a collection of just like it's just easy to crap on Sony when they're made. When like because this movie was made so that they could retain the rights to Spider Man and they could keep getting that Marvel money, I think there were easier movies to make. I think that totally. Everyone really tried. They had three different

filming locations. They filmed in Massachusetts, they filmed in New York, and they filmed in Quebec. And you know, I get that that's like you have like first but I don't remember what they called them, but basically like first and secondary cruise, first unit, I think, yeah, second unit. But there were some strange decisions in this. I really am curious about why the villain ez he Heel so many of his lines were dubbed over and it seems like he was more or less just saying the same thing. I

don't know why that happened. Some of Dakota Johnson plays Madame Webb, some of her lions were dubbed over and I didn't think. I'm not sure what could have been there before that would have made the movie more confusing. So I mean, like, let's get into it. But if this is anything like Morbius, where different stuff is going to come out the longer people are talking about this film, I'm here for it, like I want to know

what was going on. I it really does feel like Ezekiel Simms is in like an entirely different movie than the rest of the cast like that actor was like, I don't want to be in scenes with anyone else. So just like film me and my Penhouse talking to one of the women from the show Girls, like Shoshauna I think she plays. And how this movie takes place six months after nine to eleven and the NSA plays a huge part in this and nobody and it's set in New York and nobody mentioned nine to eleven.

There's no sign of it. It's two years. It's like a year and a half. Yeah, I was gonna say, like, I like, wow, I really miss that. No, it's place in two thousand and three, and I'm saying, like, I'm guessing springtime because of the way everyone's stressed. So the NSA is the lynchpin of how he's able to track the three future webbies. What is their little band called? Their little band of Spiders spider women? I love it. Okay, So that's how Ezekiel

tracks him. He's like, hey, okay, we'll get there. But there's so much that this movie's like, don't worry about it. You're thinking too much. Don't worry about it. But it's also confounding, which I mean, I mean, this is just the problem with Marvel like that. Now, like it's very confounding. Which universe? I think this might be an entirely other universe because Peter Parker is just being born, and I don't think that Peter Parker played by Tom Holland is fourteen and like all his movies,

So this might be a bully different Peter Parker. And what seen Peter Parker? The baby? What do you mean the baby? I've said through all these credits, Frank, there was no after credits. Is the baby that's that Emma Roberts is giving birth to? Is Peter Parker? Oh my gosh, Adam Scott is Ben Parker some somewhere down the line you go and get shot your your headphones are cutting out. I can't hear you. I was I'm sorry. I was covering my face and shame because when you find

out what I thought was actually happening. I thought that Adam Scott was having an affair with Mary, and that's why everyone was acting so weird about Peter. No, what's her Richard? About Richard being overseas and that's why, Oh my gosh, I was like, this is like a little bit dark because adultery never really enters the Marvel universe except for that weird thing where oh gosh, Cyclops was cheating with that woman in his mind palace or whatever.

Yes, so there's a lot of adultery. Okay, but not in the movies. Yeah, not in the movies, but the I was like, oh wow, I like and the whole weird thing, Oh my gosh. And that's why he didn't say aunt name when he's talking to Madame Webb slash Cassie and she's like, oh, you met the one and he's like yeah, and I was like, yeah, but what's her name? So I was like, oh my god, it's Mary. Him and Mary are in love. I'm a ding dong, like, I'm so sorry. Yes,

you're such a ding dong unable to follow anything in this movie. We're all just being so cool about the fact that Mary Parker is Emma Roberts and she's gonna give birth to Peter Parker. I think I had no idea. Did they say their last names at any point? Yeah, like they're kinds of like, oh, look, it's Ben Parker, Come on down, Frank. I asked me, how often I think about Uncle Ben when I'm not actively talking to you? About Uncle Ben. So I'm gonna say it's rightly

negative four percent of your day. Yes, anti thinking about Uncle Ben. I thought it was gonna be a whole thing. We're like Ben was so conflicted because he shouldn't be in love with his brother's wife, but his brother's like a bad husband, and then his brother like dies over how do Peter his parents really die? Oh it's changed so many times, Like at a certain point they get a car accident, then they're also secret agents. It's a whole thing. Oh my gosh. So that okay, everything makes a

little worse sense to me now. I feel like if people actually do like the comics, they're like, oh, I see all the pieces and I'm just like, oh, man Scott's a bad guy. I mean he's actually the best guy. Yeah, No, I'm just thinking about him playing Oh what's his name? Is his name? Ben on Parks and rec Yes, yeah, Ben, I thought him. I was like, Oh, that's funny. Somebody takes me so sad that they're definitely not going to make a sequel to this movie. I'm never going to get to see old man Adam

Scott not be married to his sister in law. We'll never get to know who's going to be cast as may I mean yes, presumably it would be Maursa's homey wha, what whoa. Once again, it's confounding unless Tom Holland is fourteen years old in Infinity War, he's like fresh out of middle school. It doesn't make sense that that's the normal Marvel Cinematic universe. Apparently canonically that that Spider Man was born in two thousand and one, so he's already

two years old by the time this. Yeah, there's a there's a fan theory the way people are mad. There's a fan theory that in Iron Man two, see if you remember anything about that film, probably not, where like he's fight Like he's at the Star Expo. He's fighting all these drones and there's a little kid wearing an Iron Man mask and like one of the

drones stops and it's like, oh cool, it's tiny iron Man. I'm gonna kill this kid, And all of a sudden, Iron Man shows up and blows him to hell, bose the drone to hell, and goes thanks kid and flies away. I got the child because I definitely thought in that moment, iron Man's like, this little kid's going to help. But no, that like Marvel is like, yeah, no, this is a confirmed theory that that's Peter Parker, like he's as cute. He's at the Star

Expo and you know. But so now I'm obsessed with seeing Adam Scott and Mari at Marisa Tome I think is like roughly maybe fifteen years older than Adam Scott, but seeing them together, but can you tell go ahead? I was gonna just say, just make it, just make Amy Poehler at me, no, because it has to be to Marissa to may from uh what

you we call it? Oh god, Like now that I think about it, that is a power couple, like yes, yeah, Dyll who's my fact checker in the room, says she's only nine years older than him. This because I was watching like after this, I was like Adam Scott. I watched the Adam Scott clip where sixty years old toy. I think, so, oh my god, is she drinking? How does she look that good? It should be illegal to look that good? Okay, sorry, Frank, go ahead. I was I kept being like, I'm doing them

Maath wrong. There's no way she's sixty years old. So everyone kept being like she's not the right age, but she kind of is the right age. She just looks crazy hot. So in not that older people can't be hot. It's just Marisa's Tomey looks younger than me, like she is killing it. But everyone's like, oh, I want my Auntie old. It's like, well, she is Granma. She could be a grandma like comic book. You know, I don't see her being Granny Surfer or whatever,

Golden Granny. For the life of me, I will never remember Golden Granny. Why should you like? The golden Granny is the the boulder that is attached to my back that I must carry with me. I will not cast that boulder upon you and make you remember that for a short time, Aunt May was glad as Harold, serving up planets like they were like milk and cookies I need. I like with this comic book stuff, it just does not stick so I which is again I will say with me watching this movie,

it's I basically watched it like it was any drama. It just happened to be that there was a little bit of magical realism in there. And Madam Webb's mom I believe is Donna from Holt and Cash fire, which is important. It's important to you, and I respect that. Yeah, so I'm this is not the most egregious superhero movie I've ever seen, and it's none like it's also her I was actually right, unlike all the other times

where I've said something have been very wrong, deeply wrong. So, like Madam Webb, for the longest time, Spider Man was strictly like a science based character, Like it was just like, oh, science gave him powers. And then like in the late eight nineties mid beginning of aughts, they just like, no, there's a mystical element to him, and we're just gonna throw it out there and there's this hole and then and like Ezekiel and Madam Webb all get kind of tied into that. Ezekiel kind of like Ezekiel

did kind of what's in the comic or what's in the movies. He went down to South America, met with the tribe of the Spider and they were like, we'll give you these powers, but you're gonna have to like we're gonna kill you like fifty years down the line. And he's like, all right, cool, well you will kill a spie. We have to kill

a Spider person. Fifty years down the line. So he tries to bring Peter Parker down to South America and sacrifice him, and like their whole Spider say, this thing goes off, and Ezekiel sees just how selfish he's been the entire time, and how selfless Peter's been, And so Ezekiel sacrifices himself instead of Peter because he just like sees like Peter's like, yeah, I'm basically living out of a box. Still gotta protect people, Still gotta protict

the people of New York who hate me. So oh, by the bye, uh what is her name? The girl on the skateboard, Oh, Maddie, Maddie. I wanted to go over Eddie, and I was like, that's not right a certain part of this part of this movie, Maddie says, we can go talk to my uncle Jonah. Oh no, oh yes, And then and then I was so I just realized. I almost like shut my computer because I was like, no, this was over. So we need to start talking about the plot because they crammed a lot of

stuff into two hours. It's sorry, he doesn't like that's the niece of j. J. Jameson. No, that's the end. Of tea girl talking. That's when we end. After eight years, I refuse to believe. So now I need to ask questions about Jay Jona Jamison. Does he also hate the Spider Women. He only hates Spider Man. He hates Spider Man. Okay, so his little done tact, Frank j Jonah Jamison does not like Spider Man. These deep cuts. So j Jonah Jamison is very

complicated politically in the comics when he comes to superheroes. He likes the X Men. He's like all about X Men, He's all about mutant rights. He was all about civil rights. That's so strange that he can understand the X Men but hates Spider Man. Well, he because he's like it's not their fault, like they you know, it's just the way they're born like

that. You what are you gonna say to that? Like people know somewhat that Spider Man got his powers and you know, like he's he's some ton't like this, like just that I know this Spider Man's is called a mutate. Somebody who did wasn't born a fit, but came through it in various means. So like Captain America considered a mutate, like something happened to him super soldier formula turned him into a super strong guy. He's a mutant,

but he's not because the guy made Wolverine. Well, Wolverine's mutation was his healing factor and his bone claws. Oh okay, so the adamantium that was later, that was later, Okay, that that's the whole reason why they did that to him is because he could survive it. It's the same reason they fuck up Deadpool constantly, like because like he can live through it.

Is that why he and Spider Man hate each other? That spider Man Wolverine, Yeah, they were both part of Well, currently Deadpool hates Wolverine because Wolverine that apocalypse, the big blue scary bad guy. You the X Men got reborn as a child and yeah, X Force, the like Black Ops X Men team killed him, and Deadpool's like, I'm out, No, no, I'm not killing a kid, and like we're just okay with this, Go fuck yourself, I'm out, and Deadpool left. You know all

the time he doesn't kill kids. Okay, fine, But the Deadpool in the comics has is a much gentler thing than in the in the movies, there's a there's a whole comic where this uh like, there's a whole comic where like he goes after a predatory therapist and he's just like, yeah, yeah, so this girl wrote me a nice little letter, fingering you, doc, and then Deadpoole cuts him in half. Yeah, like Deadpools, it's dark. His his stories get dark like it just it happens unfortunately.

But okay, so and Madam Webb just basically it was just like Spider Man, you have a destiny, that kind of thing she got. She just kind of leads him through things. So but I guess she'll be leading the three Spider Women who are Sidney Sweeney's character is called a Rackney. Why did they put that weg on her? I don't know. Uh, Anya Sophia corazon Is. I think her name is just Anya in the comics. And then you have Mattie Franklin, who is just Spider Woman. Okay, so

okay, so please see her in the Spider Verse movies. Yeah, okay, I remembered her mechanical spidery legs. Yeah, well I think she's the one. I think she's the one the bike Oh okay, who had mechanical spidery legs. A lot of people. Did I think she was voiced by Ray in the movie. You're oh terrible. There, I settled it. Yeah. So okay, So we start in Peru. Everybody's looking for the Spider. Okay, everybody frank means one woman and then a guy who's secretly

looking for it. That one woman is Donna from Hault and Cash Fire. Nope, I am wrong. It was just Drew was it was just Drew? Not what do we call it? Maddy Franklin and across the Spider verse, I'm sorry, what are you talking about? The woman on the bike is just Drew, not Maddy Franklin. I think you were right. You know I was wrong, Okay, I'm sorry. I was like, it just took me in the middle. I was like, oh, okay, I don't know what's going on. Yeah, so okay. So, uh,

Ezekiel is like hanging out with her. She finds the Spider and like he just kills everyone and he ends up like like he's like, give me the Spider. She's like, no, I've been looking for this forever. And he ends up shooting her and she's very pregnant. Everybody else and then he tries to wrestle it away from her, and we, as the viewer, like just giving the spider. Later we'll come to find out why she doesn't want to give him the spider. But he accidentally shoots her and then

runs away like a coward. Yeah. And then the Spider Tribe shows up and they're basically just like, hey, we're just Spider Man normally. They like. They take her to a cave. It's full of the spider she was looking for. She's like, this could have saved me a lot of time. Guys, what the fuck they have yet? Oh no, she's been out at this point. Oh yeah, well you've been shot. They

have the spiders bite her. She gives birth to Cassie very easily. First we get a couple of shots of a fake baby before it turns into a real baby. Yeah, and they're like, she has a great destiny awaiting her. And then somehow she gets back to the baby gets back to America. I don't know who is escorting this baby or involving it in the foster care system, but it happens, like you know, and she travels with a suitcase of memories. Yes, this movie is basically White Oleander kind of

all back to the very Sad movie. I was gonna say she didn't like Ingrid, her mom didn't like shoot a guy, or no, her mom did shoot a guy. Cassie's mom didn't shoot a guy. She got shot. I got shot, Richard got shot. Yeah. Well, now she's an EMT running around with Ben Parker Cassie not her mom. Yeah, and

I don't think they've ever explained like there's always been just varying. Let me, he never lasts long enough for you to find out what his job is there, so like, but it makes perfect sense that he would be EMT like that from like, you know, I'm gonna say, like, yeah, like I'm gonna point in things I like about this move. It's like being so negative. I like that he's an EMT. That makes perfect sense to me. It would explain him, like you know, driving Peter to

be like better and kinder to people and all that jazz. Okay. So I also assumed that Cassie and Ben had dated at some point. Yeah, I think they kind of. I think they hint up that very strongly. Okay, So this is that those signals I read right, unlike the signals I thought I was getting that Ben and Mary were having an affair. Yes, Ben and Cassie are trying to much like the Fray would say, they're

trying to save a life. They nearly run They nearly run over Maddy Franklin, who flips them off, and Cassie, which is really bad for Yeah, Like Cassie's like, who flips off an ambulance? I have to agree, Cassie, who would flip off an ambulance? They get the person to the hospital, they save them. It turns out it's Sidney Sweeney with her characters name Jessica, Juliett, Cornwalls Mo stepmom and she uh her little brother gives Cassie a drawing and Cassie's like, what do I do with this?

And this is the point where I Texas has Cassie existed in the world before? I mean, so, there are so many strange decisions in this film. In this version of New York, there is hardly ever traffic. The only traffic incurred is plot traffic, like we need there to be a car back up here, but it's not even like a real backup. It's not like like Cassie is driving through the streets of New York between fifty to sixty miles per hour at all time, which is not a thing that happens.

And for parts of it, they are in Queens and she's still flying around like there's just no traffic. There's like five other people in all, all five of the Burroughs, So like that was a little strange. And when Ben tells her to take the drawing and thank the kid, and she's very clearly saying, in front of this child, I like, what am I supposed to do with this drawing you just handed me? It's strange. Kathy isn't a strange duck, honestly, And I think that if it's the character

really well, it makes sense. I think that there are other films where like characters that have had a past like hers, like end upbringing in foster care or like the death of a parent, don't fare so well. And the way that they show that the character is disaffected is there a jerk. Cassie just seems very guarded. And I'm gonna give a lot of credits to Dakota Fanning. Not Dakota Fanning, Dakota Johnson. Dakota Fanning's not in this

film. I'm going to give a lot of credits to Dakota Johnson because I've found her character endearing rather than grating. I think that she was brusque, but I think that it's obvious that she has a lot of difficulty with vulnerability. She has difficulty trusting and when and we see that, like maybe she doesn't really understand social cues entirely, because when Ben is like, come on,

you gotta come to the baby shower. It's important, you gotta do this, and we find out later it's you know, these are this baby shower is made up of the closest people in her life, and she just does not want to go. And when she does, it becomes very clear to us that she doesn't really possess any social grace and it's very hard for her, I guess, to more or less fake it. So I think that's honestly more interesting to me as a character than if she was like,

oh my god, I'm just so quirky and awkward. But she just flies through every kind of social setting and is endeared to everyone like no one ever like kind of talks about obviously, Dakota Johnson is like movie star pretty right, Like she led a franchise in Foam about how she was just so irresistible. But this character is i mean hard to love, you know, for obvious reasons. It's it's been really difficult for her. Yeah, like she

I'm not saying this unkindly. She's a mess of a person. And it's just like you know, but not in like I'm going to like she she's trying her best with like she's like, look, I just I've been moving around, like I can't get settled, I can't relax, I have to

constantly be on the move. And yeah, and I think very much like most introverts, she cares for the people that she trusts, the people she does care about, like like Ben, she when she cares about them, like you know, like this person gets me, this person uder stands me. But then like other people, it's just like I don't know, I'm

just I'm giving up on this. I'm just gonna well. When she goes to the party and everyone is recollecting, you know, memories of their mother, and she tells the story of her mother dying, and she's obviously conflicted about her mother's death because her mother was working up and to the point that she gave birth and because she is like deep in the wilderness of Peru.

She wasn't able to get the kind of medical treatment, and I mean, doesn't that speak to the fact that this is what Cassie chose for her life, was, you know, providing emergency medical treatment for people. And I mean I feel like that was very heavily telegraphed to us by her fixation on uh oh gosh, I want to call it the heimlike and that's not what it is on CPR, and you know the rest everyone else is like very kind of put off by her saying, you know, my mother died.

I didn't know her. Uh, you know, I'm fine because she doesn't. She doesn't know. She can't have those conversations because they hurt too much. So I think that I definitely think that there could have been a little more nuance. But that's not really what comic book movies are known for, like, you know, deep symbolism and nuance and you know, the sliding doors of emotions that come with freak and loss. That's not like everyone's like

I am sad my mom died. I am sad uncle Ben died. It's you know, it's usually more expressive, like like, you know, you bring up a good point and that actually ties into why she would like put so much on the line for these three random girls, you know, because like she sees it in her head, these girls are going to be murdered brutally. I can save them. I have no reason to help them. I just like, this is just what I do. Like Cassandra Webb saves

people, this is what I do. She leaves a couple of times. Yeah, well she tried. Well, I think like a lot of I think her leaving is very much just like, well, the one time she does leave, but like it's to figure things out out that happened in a vision. Oh okay, you're talking about the woods time, not the motel time. I'm talking about when she leaves them with Ben. Okay, so that's the third time she leaves them. She actually leaves them three times.

The first time is right, so like let's get there, Okay. So well, I just I do want to talk about the Bonker scene where Ezekiel. Okay, this part, I understand Ezekiel like is a very attractive man and this woman comes home with him and then he like they're in the opera. Yeah, I mean, great places to do someone the opera. But yeah, so they go home from the opera. Then they're having pillow talk, like he's having Anakin Skywalker esque pillow talk where he's like, like,

keep having these dreams. Well, I'm killed by these three girls. Why didn't that woman leaven't a man woke up from a dead sleep and told me I get murdered by these girls. I'm gonna seek them out. I'm gonna murder them. I I don't even care what I'm wearing. It that for fait, first of all, doesn't matter. Second, well, why is this woman sleeping over this total rando's house? Like I get that, She's like, oh, fancy apartment. Like probably not a serial killer hat American

psycho had come out already. We know do ites with apartments like that more likely to murder you? I said it here now And like so she's lying in bed next to him and she's like, oh, do you have a back dream And he's like, no, it's a vision. I see how I die. I'm definitely gonna murder these girls. And she's like, oh are you sure? Though, stop skip follow ups, get out of there.

There's a point where I thought she was gonna like shift to run away, and instead she reached it to her purse for what I thought was a gun, but I think actually was like her ide bed. Did she have a gun? I don't remember her having a gun. Oh. And the craziest part of any of this is he targeted her because she's in the NSSAY, meaning she has training. She is supposed to have both training and the instincts to be like this seems. And I'm not blaming the victim. I

am just wondering. Is Zechiel sims like that much of a show stopper that she was like, Yeah, I'll just chill here while this weirdo tells me about his murder tree. Like, okay, see, I would have left when I saw this spider tree in the middle of his apartment. Now that's too juggy. You're being too judgy. Spider tree. Fine, it's not like he's letting the spiders walk all over him. They're in like a spider enclosure thing. I'd be like, Oh, you're into Damien her start.

That's cool. You're even richer than I thought you were. I guess I'd be like, oh, you have a pet. Cool, I have cats, you have spider tree. But when they start talking about planning murder. You gotta leave, You gotta put your shoes on and walk your ass out of this Upper West Side apartment and just say, you know, sometimes we make mistakes. She's like, oh, now I have to like because like America is at peak paranoia back then. She's like, now I had to

call this in and it's gonna be so much paperwork. Why can't I just meet in? What case is she calling this in? Oh? Hello, work at the NSA. I slept with the guy who turned out to be a psycho. Like, no, she would just surveil him illegally. That's what they were doing. That was the bread and butter, Thank you, Georg. Joey Bush wasn't illegal, Uh I should have been. No, they were. They got in trouble. That's why the whole Snowden thing,

it's well documented, so at it. By two thousand and three it wasn't though, So she just like probably bike a file on her desktop. Weird know. I slept with with the spider tree that has the murder dreams. Keep an eye on him, put him on the list. Can't travel without TSA flipping all his uh what should call it luggage? She was like around the water cool yes, it happened again. Spider Tree cycle path. I

know how to pick them. I know how to pick them. Uh. Okay, in your scenario, not only is she calling work to tell them that she slept with the psycho, she said openly discussing it at the office water cooler. Can't we just you could really really keep this stuff to yourself, Debbie? Can't we just talk about twenty four? Can't we just talk about one house empty is up? Too? Why is it every week you come into another story, but how you slept with a super hot dude who

had a spider tree and then you playing for murders. They're like, there's this new show, it's the office. Get it? Like us, we're in an office. Stop talking about Spider tree guy at this point, like you haven't stopped any possible threats outside of the man you slept with. It's just your You create a job for yourself just dating Spider tree man and having to report on the Okay, now I've come full circle. Debbie's a genius, best of all worlds. The problem was that she paused to hear about

the murder dream. I don't care how curious curios you are. Curious you are you gotta keep it pushing? Can't hear about you, can't hear about murder dreams, can't do it so well? He takes He somehow uses her badge to get like horrible savance technology that matches up faces. He gets into the hall. Reminded me of your remember in the Batman movie where Morgan Freeman's like, hey, I made you a thing where it like bunches all the cell phones. Yeah, it seemed like that. And what made me curious

is like, Okay, so he's murdered this woman. He poisoned her in his house. She works for the NSA. They weren't able to trace her cell phone, her last known location, trace her through any of like cameras. He lives in like a super fancy building. You have to assume that there are security cameras. A doorman. She's just been gone for days and no one's like, oh hey, Debbie's not here telling us her weird stories and her like security clearance is on her badge, a thing that she wears

on her body every day at work. It makes no sense. And also it's not as if, like you know, New York was under heavy surveill during Matt Todds because she works for the NSA, Like it's it makes no sense that Ezekiel Sims has not been pursued. Also, is he invisible? Because there are points where Ezekiel Sims shows up in situations and then the Spider women say, oh, they didn't see him, and like how because then later everybody sees him and it's horrified and they're like, oh, there's a

guy crawling on the ceiling. Oh there's a guy kicking people in the torso all over the place. Is Ezekiel Sims selectively invisible? I mean that was one of Miles Morales's powers. I don't know. It is confounding. I think that the like two drafts of this film popped up and they just like put him together. Who cares? But my big so Ezekiel sees like halt and catch fire lady. Okay, so we're still in the flashback, Frank stalking the flashback. Okay, So Cassie is starting to see visions of like

the near future. She Frank's not talking about the flashback anymore. Well, we're done with Debbie. We're done with Debbie in her job creating. Yeah, but you mentioned Okay, Cassandra and then you're like, okay, but now as Zekiel's in the present, Okay, well he has a dream and like this is like the best two or three minutes of the movie where we get to see the Spider girls just kicking the me the Spider women kicking the

ever living shit out of Ezekiel wearing their cool costumes. It lasts for like maybe thirty seconds, and I was bummed when it ended. So he's like, you're a Halt and catch Fire lady, take this or Shoshana. Yeah, she's not Halt and catch Fire. She's from Girls. Okay, She's like she's unnamed in this film. She's just like Hacker and she seems to not have working hours. She's just at that chair all of the time. I'm sure he's paying her like enough to be at that chair all the time.

What about bathroom breaks? What about meals? What about sleep? Oh god? Yeah, so osha violation. Jill Sims is not only a murderer and a bad guy, he is a terrible employer. Yeah, so he says, if you've noticed, I will pay you handsomely, not that she has been paid hands on it. Yeah, Debbie should have given her some some some tips on the job market, like, hey, she wasn't there.

Can you imagine being this woman he met at the opera and then she goes home with him and it's like, oh, is this your daughter? Oh no, that's just my hacker. She's just in that seat all the time. But he wouldn't have needed a hacker at that point because he didn't have Debbie. You know, Badge, that's my hacker next to my Spider Tree. Yeah, every comes with one. Joshana is like, I hate the Spider Tree so much. So they're like, if they pop in grend

Central Station, we'll find them. Guess what all three women end of en Grand Central Station and he heads off there. He's running around barefoot. At certain points, he's in and out of his vaguely Spider Man looking costume that's all black, Cassie, I think it's pretty sick. I like it. I like it better than the Venom costume. There I said it, Well, my favorite part about the Spiderman costume is top part Spider Man, bottom part slacks. No, it's the whole thing is tight. It's tight as

hell. Yeah, Like they don't show the bottom a lot, but it's easy everything, So which I think they had to cut around because there reports where like, whoa wait, there's definitely parts where he's wearing slacks. Frank, you mean that up there is God? Well, okay, maybe you know I'm looking through the things thing. I'm wrong, Okay. F watched the entirely movie. Frank watched the like please be kind of rewind version where like some dudes just sweed this in their basement. He's like, it was

crazy for such a big budget. Is Echil Simmons is just wearing slacks for part of it? What are you talking about? So whend you watch this, mom, Someone's like you into their garage and be like, watch my Madam Web. You're like it super short, It's like twelve minutes long. It's a great short Phil. So, Cassie is having visions. She sees one of her well, she tries to stop one of her fellow EMTs, he gets into a car accident, he passes away. She's going to Poughkeepsie

for the funeral. That's when she encounters the four girls. She sees a vision of them all getting murdered. She yanks them off the subway and she's they're like, what are you doing? What are you trying to protect this from She's like that, and they see Ezekiel running around with his bare ass feet on the New York ground. I did like that touch, because if you're just a regular person and you see a man running around in his suit barefoot in the city, you're like that that is a maniac. He's in

the subway station barefoot. I need to avoid him. This is bad news. There is this couple on TikTok who are like, we're going to just go barefoot from now on, and they were getting kicked out of stores, so they just took shoes and cut out the bottoms and are just running around in stores with their feet on the ground. And I'm like, oh, they definitely have ringworm. They definitely have ringworm. So and so does Ezekiel. If if if the women don't kill him the ring warm will they just

gotta wait. I don't know, he doesn't have like super spider healing power. I'm sure he does. Damn Those ringworms are dead. So they they they flee, but like the girls kind of the girls kind of just say like, like hell police, Like this woman's trying to duct us and there's a whole thing where she nearly gets arrested and Zequiel just shows up and kills the cops. They steal tacks, kikes everyone in the torso. He gets like ten to twelve cops in the torso, and then they're like, oh,

it was Cassie. Cassie Webb kidnaped some girls and hurt a bunch of cops. And I'm like, he was up close enough that he two foot kicked you in the torso. Why do you think it's this small woman? Yeah, and here's okay. So here's the thing. Spider Man is stronger than like people give him credit for it because he pulls his punches. So if you're just full on do you want a Spider Man kick? You are

killing people. Well, we already said Ezekiel Sims is a bad guy, I think, askedon answer, like, yeah, he murdered a pregnant woman and a bunch of random dudes, Like I don't think anyone's like, but what are his redeeming qualities? I'm sure there's some awful dude's video being like Ezekiel is really the hero of this movie. If you find that, please send it to me. That's so funny. Like the gymnastics, like the logical gymnastics you would have to do to say that Ezekiel is the hero of

this movie, Like, I'm fascinated. Okay, brangworm all over the city with his bare ass feet. So they steal a taxi. They flee into the woods of New York. Cassie's like, hey, girls, I know the woods of New Jersey, the woods in New Jersey. The girl She's like, hey girls, oh, by the bye. There is a lot of product placements fill remember that later seen amount of product placement, mostly for pepsi. But when Ezekiel comes to hunt them down in the woods in New

Jersey from midtown Manhattan, he gets into a corvette. How this man has an alley, Like there's so many alleys in movies in New York, and that's just not a thing that happens. There's no alleys. So Ezekiel rev his very fancy corvette which is parked under a series of like fire escape stairs. And I felt like being like Ezekiel, I don't care how expensive your car is, you are not going to get to New Jersey fast enough to catch them in the middle of a meal during rush hour from midtown New York.

You're just gonna be sitting in the tunnel. Sorry, not sorry, I mean that is something I want to see more of in films where it's just like the like the chase gets bogged down in like midday traffic or like you know, rush hour. They're eating dinner, so it's like six to seven o'clock. That's a two hour commute. I don't know he's going to northwest New Jersey. I think if there's woods like that, it's church somewhere. Yeah, So Cassie's just like, all right, girls, enjoy the

woods. I'll be back, And I'm like, you can still to like a seven eleven. Get them some food. The girls kind of like, here's my problem is, like I felt like the the the Three Spider Women weren't characters. They were just like one massive character that just went from place to place together, and like there just wasn't that much different Cate them except for their sad backstories. They're like, even those were not that different.

Yeah, Like my family is either impacted by hardship or just neglectful of me or both. They're like, look, we put we put glasses. In the words of of a Caddie from the Wonder Woman movie, Oh, yeah, so put some specs on her and will pretend she's not the most beautiful woman have you ever seen? Like, uh, I know. It's so everyone looks very cute. They look like the most ideal versions of early two thousands fashion, because early two thousands fashion was Abomina Little. It's so terrible.

The comeback it's making is not what it looked like when it was happening. It's what's happening now is much cuter. And we get like a little needle drop with toxic and the girls are, you know, dancing to it and dancing on a table in Jersey. Yes, for like a group of boys on the wrestling team or something. And so when Cassie comes back and goes to find them, she has a vision of them doing this, and she's like, oh, he did not lay low, And then of Ezekiel

coming in. Ezekiel's wearing his suit, so he's not barefoot for once, and he attacks them. So in her vision she storms in. Everything goes sideways. It does not work out, so she zips back in time. I guess, I'm not entirely sure how like the time web jumping works, but it's basically like she runs through the whole scenario in her head, and it's like, Okay, well that's not gonna work. So then she's said when she's back in the woods, her stolen taxi cab just happens to be

on the same radio station as the diner. So she drives her taxicab into the diner and then her and Ezekiel have like fisticuffs. They get away, she hits like half ran him over with the car, so he slightly, just like a touch, poisons her, which seems to lead to them being kind of mind linked, but we never really see that again. Like Ezekiel

doesn't seem to have any idea that she's traveled to Peru. He just gets to kind of mind link to her to the one time to be like, hey, guess what, I killed your mom and you're never gonna be able to stop me, and like really braggadocious for a person who's gonna die within like the next forty minutes of the movie. Okay, and I don't know

that much. I haven't seen this actor, and a lot of things, like I'm sure he's probably much better in other movies, but he was his line Delorris are so wooden in this film I feel like it's because it's all dubbed over I don't I okay, I'm gonna look up why it was dubbed and then can you go over their like slight training montage. Okay, So Cassie brings the women to a brings them to a motel. They all, you know, they camp out for the night. She's like, I have

to go to Peru. Well, first she leaves and has the weird mind meld vision with him, and then the next day the Spider Woman wakes up, wake up. She teaches them CPR, and then she's like, hey, I'm sending you with Ben. You don't know yet. This is the uncle of Spider Man. Unlike what Susie thinks, He's not an adulterous trader. He's actually a really good guy. Okay, So I do want about

the dynasty. I just want to bring up one good point or one like one thing in the film's favor is she is driving along trying to sync up the Diners radio with her car so she can hit him in exactly the right moment, and she keeps me like, oh, like fucking like the signal goes out and like, you know, she's like, I need to like be able to get to him in exactly the right moment. I was like, that is pretty cool. I like that That's a very interesting way to

use precognition. And also, you know, if I'm gonna get hit by a car, I'd like to beat to toxic. I mean toxic is uh okay? So I have ah answer to the dubbing thing, Uh do you thank you to Comic Book Club Live dot com Uhi? I've never heard of before? But they go down? Was his voice dubbed yes? And it says here. Raheem is from France and apparently was using some sort of accent

in the movie. But he speaks perfect English has sounded absolutely fine in previous English speaking productions like The Looming Tower, so it seems inexplicable that they dumped over all his lines. Apparently he those lines you hear in the movie are to hear Raheem voicing them. That includes the ze heel when he's I'm a barefoot businessman suit and includes when he's in his evil Spider Man suit based on the Aaronis tribe in Peru. This this movie would have been so much better

if Ezekiel just had an outrageous French accent. I mean, uh okay, I will get you metawb, you are a sheet Yeah, so okay, So what's wrong with his dialogue? Why does it seem like he's dubbed?

So they're saying the sound mixing is really bad, and I think that's part of what takes you out of it too, is like there's a thing that's used in movies, and I think we've talked about it in previous episodes where they take room tone, which is just like there is no room that is ever one hundred percent silent, right like the room I'm sitting in, I have an air purifier next to me. Dill's over on the other side of

the room typing. You're gonna hear cars going by. There's ambient noise, and there's with Ezekiel's lines that are dubbed, you're not really hearing like let's say, noises you'd hear in the subway. So it takes you out of

it. And then because an actor is almost never going to be able to sort of recreate the tone or the passion that they have when they're delivering a line in person, anything done in the sound booth is going to sound flat and strange and you know, sort of like out of like sync with characters

where they're just using you know, their recorded sound from the scene. So now what this whole sort of like some up is saying that apparently it was not dubbed because anything the actor was doing like that, whatever sort of accent he picked to do for this film, that was a conscious decision that he

made for this character. But for plot reasons, it seems like they might have had him re record it, and the re recording is where things because there is There were also parts where Dakota Johnson was dubbed in, and I felt like those were also pretty obvious, but you usually were not looking at her lips, and they for some reason they decided to take close ups of Zekiel Sims saying lines that were clear really dubbed over with other lines, and

they're like, fuck it, just use it. Who cares, It's fine, dude, I would say, a rather heavy disservice to the film. Yeah, sorry, that was like a lot of like super minutia inside Baseball. But I love this kind of stuff about movies. No thank I'm I'm happy to hear why he was dubbed. Okay, it is confusing, right, Like it's totally inexplicable. Yeah, okay, so we're gonna finish up

this movie. We take quick trip to the Baked Sale. Okay, so Cassie is just like, hey, Ben, I know you'll eventually be raising your your your nephew who Mary's pregnant with. Right now, can you mind three teenage women, three teenage girls for a bit while quick? John ta to Peru for a seven day trip? Cool? Thanks, thanks, thanks,

thanks, thanks. So and we see roughly like five to seven minutes of this trip, and like, here's my thing is I could have done with just like showing the showing the women, like some characterization of them, just be like, hey they you know Mary, let us help you, or like I don't want to help Mary, or just give me something. Just let me spend some time with these three spider women, just like even

just a little bit. And because they basically act as avatars, they they're like placeholders of this is a character you're gonna get to know in the sequel. And I'm like, but I want to know them now. I Like, I don't need to know about Ezekiel Simm's weird obsessions. I don't need

to know about Debbie's like nsa plot to keep herself employed. Okay, I would rather watch that movie and then everyone at the office it's like, really it out about it, But it would I feel like it could be a mix of that and that Jennifer Lawrence movie Red Sparrow, where she's like she's basically placing herself in these like like super strategic particular sort of like high stakes situation, but it's just so she can keep this government job. That would

be such a fun movie. It'd be so strange have David Lynch directed. There we go. So the she goes to the Peru, she finds about the spider people. They're like, you are connected to the web of life. I'm like, wow, we don't know what the web of life is. We've never heard about it. It is basically just put in there too, so we understand later when Cassie splits herself into three different locations at once and she's like is this my last name is Well and like wow, really

presumptuous. It's not all she flies back to. She flies back to America. Mary starts going into labor. They take her start taking her to the hospital. Then like rushing her there, we still don't know what the baby's name is, Like, yeah, we all know what it's Peter Parker. We don't know, Frank don't say we all know. I didn't know. Even when they're like Peter, I was like, okay, I don't know

why this was treated like such a thing at the baby shower. So they Cassie has a vision of them getting killed by like a bomb at Ezekial just throws into their under their car and hey, can we talk about how I guess they're in Queens when this happened. She dry She sees this bomb and she's like, I gotta fly in. In this plan, there is a parking deck in the middle of a city intersection that does not have walls but has a billboard in front of it. And she drives through a billboard into

the middle of an intersection. What what what is the integrity of this building? Where Like, I don't believe that real estate in Queens is so cheap that you could just buy a huge plot to make a parking structure. There's like there are parking lots, but they're like few and far between, and they put cars up on lifts and they charge you a lot of money. It's not like in a suburban area where you're like, oh, I'm just driving around the circle and parking by car. So I thought that was very

funny. And of course she drives through a Calvin Klein at and Calvin Kline is banked at the end of the credits. Thank you for you use of your ad Calvin kleinb Yeah, and Maddie is wearing a visible Calvin Klein underwear band for the entire entirety of the film and like and at this point they have not realized that Ezekiel's main weakness he's been getting hit by cars because he's gonna gotten hit by two and I'm like, kid with some more cars.

Well, i mean she'll hit him with it the actual death now, which is the pepsip. Yeah. So she's like, girls, come with me. We're gonna drive to a fireworks factory. Unlike Itchy and Scratch you, we'll actually make it to the fireworks factory. And fireworks factory is very dangerous and has no structural integrity. But I'm bringing you here for the climactic battle with the bad guy, who has proven himself to be a total maniac.

Could go wrong and Ezekiel's like, well there they go. Hmm. I could take Mary Parker hostage and be like, either bring me the girls or I kill her and her unborn child, or are you just chase after them? Well, first of all, Frank, how's he gonna get in touch with him? Right? Like? No cell phone? That's a good point a lot of people had, Like I had a cell phone in two thousand and three, and I was one of the last people in my life to get a cell phone. So I don't know, we'll just leave that where

it is. I mean, I feel like Cassie definitely would have had a cell phone and Ben would have had a cell phone because they're EMTs. But fine, let's suspend our disbelief they don't have cell phones. But she literally says to Ben, Oh, don't worry about it is he doesn't care about you anymore because I'm not there. And if I was bet, I'd be like, are you willing to take that bet? Because it doesn't seem like

Ezekiel like really draws those lines. He's just kind of like, well, you made my life difficult, so I'm gonna murder you now, okay. So also and like he and like they also do a sick thing where he jumps on the roof of the ambulance and they shock it with the defibrillator. I was like, hell, yeah, that's pretty cool. Well, in the ambulance dies, which makes sense because if you sent that much of a

current through a vehicle, I presume you would blow the battery. So they get to the dual Pepsi fireworks factory because for some reason, it's a giant pepsi thing, but it's a fireworks factory. It's a pepsi cola light up like billboard advertisement on the river and the fireworks factory at the docks. Yeah. Cassidy is at this point just well pre coggin like she's in Minority Report. She's like, go here, go there. That's my favorite moment in

all Minority Report. Did you ever see Minory Report? I did not. I I think I read this story it was based on. Okay, So Comic Book Club Live is really just knocking it out of the park today. So that of what Pepsi sign is a real location in New York. It interesting. Well, Colic Book Comic Book Live dot Com knows how SEO is ron because they knew everybodys we talk about this movie, They're like, we're

gonna have multiple articles about it. Okay. It's located in Long Island City, which is Queens, just across from the river, the river from Manhattan. It's especially visible from the FDR on the east side of Manhattan. It is not a pepsi factory or an abandoned fireworks factory. It was named a landmark in twenty sixteen. And I kind of want to know if there is a parking deck there so you can continue with the fireworks fight. I just want okay, well, there's not much to it, Like they just keep

hitting with fireworks. They finally and everybody ends up hanging from scaffolding because of various because they're in the middle of a fireworks factory exploding. And I have this very vivid memory of when YouTube first arrived on the scene that like, the only videos that seem to be being posted on it were firework factory fires, and just like everybody's everybody had a firework factory fire, Like check this out. I'm like, this is a different fireworks factory. How much do

these things light on fire? Ezekiel mocks, He's like, I killed your mom, and she's like yes, what now, I killed you, idiot? He gets crushed. He's being shitty. I feel like in a way that makes a lot of sense. He's like, you think you're good, but you're not good enough. But you're never gonna be good enough it and it's very annoying and it's very satisfying when he's burgered right after that. Yeah, so like, what can your mind do? We can't even shoot mind

bullets with telekinesis Cassie. But she's like, yes, what like, but I can. I can make duplicates of myself and they'll help the girls up. And they help the girls up, and then she falls in the water and gets both paralyzed and blinded by fireworks, and the girl the girls go to visit her, like I was wearing some really cool Gucci sunglasses. Yeah, and I was just like that, well this, you know, it makes sense those sunglasses. And if Comic book Live dot com has a thing

about them, I will be so ssiched. Two out of the It's a good thing that two of the three women are turbo rich, because I think that's how Cassie like is getting stuffed with these the sweet new wheelchair you know it is it like, save your kids. You know she's been wearing the sunglasses. Dakota Johnson, the person, not Madam What the character has been wearing the sunglasses to do impressiveppearances for the movie. Nice. This is what I'm saying, Like, I need you to name this episode. We need

Madam Web two yesterday, because I am I know that. My whole thing last week was I was gonna love this movie. I genuinely liked this movie, and now that I'm following up about it, I'm like, Yes, more of this, Yes, Bran. I think I think my shameful secret is that I like the Sony Superhero Universe better than the Marble so much better. Can you ask me might have three Marble movies? I'd be like, I don't know. They're all really long and there's a lot of CGI.

If you asked me to pick my favorite out of the trio of Morbid Morbius, Venom, and Madam Web, I'd be like, you can't ask me to pick between my children. That's just cruol. Well, what about Venom twos? Is it okay? It's tough because they didn't put Woody Harrelson in The Little Orphan anyway, which you know has been a sticking point for me. But I like that one too. It's super stupid him and Venom break up. It's like so like I mean Eddie and Benham break up or that

happened to the first one. I love them all, Cissy, I that this makes perfect sense that you like these movies better, because like, give these movies. Give these movies their dudes, they were willing to try, like because that this is the problem, Reseat. The problem with the Marvel movies is all of them are safe now, Like they're not taking chances,

they're not taking risks, you know. Like that's why everybody was so pummed on Infinity Warren Endgame because it's like we're gonna just kill half of the cast, and that's just what's gonna happen, you know. And like these movies are short, they're compact. They did not remember. The only thing I remember from either Infinity War or Endgame is Tom Holland crying when he disappears or evaporates or whatever you call it. That was some really amazing acting. It

was heart wrenching. It is the only thing I remember because the rest of it just like slid off my brain. Yeah, madam, web is written on my soul is my eating heart. I don't know what. Morvius is my foot, it's my foot. Morbus is the feeling in my gut when I know things are right or wrong. I know they're not going to make

a second Morevius, and I'm so sad. And I hope that you know at some point the same group that made the bring Morbius back to the Getters and then didn't go see it when it got rolled back makes Morbious two petition, because Tony it'll be like cool. Yeah, morbous too. We need to write off. Nobody will see it except for me. We need to keep spider Man. With rice of spider Man, we'll make another movie. We made crape in the Hunter already. But who isn't that? How have

I not seen this? Well? No, it's coming out it stars Uh what is his name? The guy who played Quicksilver driven the Hunter. It's coming out this year, Aaron Taylor Johnson. That wasn't Quicksilver. Quicksilver was the guy from American Horror Story. He played Quicksilver. He played Quicksilver and Avengers Ultron the Age of Ultron. Yeah, but in the then there were two quick Stars. Are they different guys? Yes, Oh, I'm talking about the one that has the silver hair. They both have silver hair.

I don't I'm not even mad at this. I'm just confused. He's only in one film. He dies and Elizabeth Olsa is very sad about it, and she rips out Ultron's heart. She's like, this is what it feels like. Okay, so the one I saw came after that because I didn't see age of Ultron. Ron is not good. The only good thing about Asia Ultron is that people took Robert California like lines and dubbed them over Ultron's lines. He's like, you don't even know my name on the fucking lizard

case. I'm always here for like dubbing over like a comedy actor's lines into like a it's like serious film. Like they took uh John Ralfield's lines and dub them over like The Amazing Spider Man, like because Andrew Garfield Andrew Garfier kind of looked like him, and like he's just swimming swinging. You just experienced swinging through the sea, goes I got run over by Alexis and then like they did the same thing with Sonic because like how are you still lavet

pills? Daby? Oh my god? Okay, what are we doing for the first week of your month? June Tube? That comes out already? Yeah, I have tickets to see Oh wait, what what is next? Sunday? The second? Uh? The third? Okay, No, it won't be out already. I wouldn't have seen it by then. Okay. I was gonna say, I'm very excited of me see Zendaya actually do stuff in Dune, unlike the last one where it's just like, here's Zendaya. Isn't she pretty? Okay, it's gonna see Drive Away Dolls. Yes,

I'm very excited about it. Also, I'm so excited to do a Coen Brothers movie on this podcast or Cohen brother Did you see the preview for Taro No, We're gonna have to do it. It has the actress who is both in Spin and Mean Girls in it, and it's like very goofy. It's about a possessed tarot deck that a group of teens finds and then they get killed like monsters that look like the original artwork on the spooky Possessed Tarot Deck? Is this a PG thirteen? Potentially? I don't think it's a

blumhouse, but it looks like it should be a blumhouse. No, it's any pictures. Yes, oh my god. So they get ready for a lot of get ready for a lot of Persona talk Why because in the persona games, your various social lengths are represented by members of the taro Oh, I changed my mind. But you're going to make you watch Ordinary Angels. If you would like to write us, you can write us at real teen Girl. What what is Ordinary Angels? Oh? Look it up. It's

like one of those like Pure Films movies. I'm getting bombarded with ads for that and Imaginary, which I'm not seeing Imaginary because it's going to scare me. And then I'm not seeing Ordinary Angels because I'm like, guys, this is just like not my whole thing. But if you'd like to write us, you can write us at Realteengirl talk at gmail dot com. We have a Facebook group and page that Frank moderates, and until next week, I am Susie Codadadada

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