Sisters by Chance… Friends by Choice

has been such a long time coming. People have grown up watching me and Kenzie like on camera most of our lives, and I feel like now we really just want to like share a more personal, relatable side to us and show our weird selves. Yeah, this is like I know, I'm kind of worried. People are like, oh no, who are they? This is the real then I'm kidding. Hopefully they like us. Hopefully you stick around, Please stick around? Can we please talk about the episode name? Please? Oh

my gosh. Okay, we we've obviously grown up watching Live in Maddie the show on Disney Channel, and who hasn't though it's so good. It's such a good show. Shout out to dev Cameron no, but um, we what was the one of the lines in the show. Okay, So basically, if you've seen it, you know that the whole premise around the show is just just by chance, friends by choice. Um, and so we said it as a joke. We we literally are sisters by chance, friends by choice. But it's

just like so funny that it's living Maddie. So that's why we named the episodes sisters by birth. That's by choice. It's a little it's a little backstory. And I feel like we were in the car, We're trying to figure out what to name this podcast, Like we were going back and forth trying to figure it out, and then all of a sudden, in my head, I was like, Kenzie choice, that has been a joke for this whole month. I know. And it's not probably not funny too literally

anyone else but us we are. So I don't know why we find that so funny, but it's just because it's like from our childhood. We find it nostalgia. It's not that long ago. We're like still babies, but I feel like we had to do a little nod to that just because it's a cute memory. Yeah, and we seriously are like we've It's like I said, it's been a long time coming with our friendship because you can explain.

I mean, that's like a long long way back. Um, well, when we first started dancing together, Um, we actually hated each other just because don't. I wouldn't throw the word hate, I would say, justlike we'd we'd argue. No, okay, it was just we spent so much time together that it was just like we didn't have time to you know, be on our own and like actually develop as different people, like really like it was just the worst thing ever for sisters to do. Also, mind you, Kenzie and I

are twenty months apart. If you didn't know that, that's extremely close. We're like, like you said, we didn't really have time to develop our own identity. We were very much just one and the same, which is honestly, like, looking back, I feel like we needed each other more than anything. Because friends come and go, your teammates come and go. Sisters stay forever, and that was the most

important friendship to maintain. Um, And as we got older, it was, you know, we started hanging out more and doing things together, but it was still just like I know, I think I think it wasn't until we cut off working together because we both shared dance and I'm sure

most of you know that we grew up. We grew up dancing together, competing with each other, but also a few times against each other, which is kind of toxic for a sister relationship because it's like we want to boost each other up, we want to bring each other confidence and like love, and that was like, nope, you're competing. You have to be better than one another, and it's just like not how it's supposed to be. We're family exactly. And so I think it was so important that once

we actually branched off and did our own thing. You found singing and you still act, but like not as much as you it's your thing. I started acting more, Kenzie started singing more, and like then we stopped working together. And then we'd be like, oh my gosh, we like miss working together. So this is fun. Well this doesn't work. This is just this is literally us now, Like this is all we do is we just like sit and talk,

I know, for hours. But I think when our friend Chip just to blossom blossomed was when you moved out, which is so I mean, like it sounds so horrible, Like every time I'm like, oh, yeah, Maddie and I are best friends now that she's gone, it's just like but that, like don't you want your sister with you? And of course I do, But now it's so fun that, like I can just drive over to your house and

hang out with you. Also, I feel like this is a really fun podcast because as much as we are one and the same, we are so polar opposite, Like how would you describe how different we are? I this is actually so random. I always say this to people, like this is okay, this is really stupid. But you were like very dainty like jewelry, and I were very chunky. That's true, and I feel like that's a really good way to describe our style and totally I feel like

our whole lives. I've been more timid in a way, and I'm like a people pleaser, which you are too, but like I feel I've always been like really worried to mess up or fault, Like I always am a rule followers actions. That's how and there's pros and cons to that. But also i feel like I'm very like light and whatever, and I feel like you are so like incredibly strong, and you speak your mind and which is always not good. Well, there's pros and cons to everything, right,

but I feel like we could. I would love Kenside to take some of that from you, like I admire you so much for that. Thank you. Oh I wish I was a perfectionist like you and always had my room clean and spotless. I was just gonna say, oh my god, I can't keep my room clean for a day because I go through my closet throw everything around,

and then I don't feel like cleaning it up. You guys, I will go to Kenzie's house and I will clean her room and I will walk downstairs for a couple of hours, or I'll leave and i'll come back the next day. It is trashed again, but you're not gross. You just leave your clothes everywhere. You're still it's like a clean, messy Yeah. You know, I think the one thing that we fight about, the only thing that we

fight out. I can't remember the last thing we thought other than this, which I don't know how this is even possible that we steal each other's clothes and we don't even live together, Like she will leave something at my house and I will obviously wear it because it's here, so why not. And then she's like, on my live strip, Kenzie, take off my shirt. Kenzie, take off my shirt. So that's like the only thing we fight about. Really, I'm just glad that that's how we find about now. Honestly,

we've never thought about real things. It's always just been like who gets what clothes, who gets like who uses the hairbrush first? Like it's very m honestly, you know what's so weird? I don't know why I just thought of this, but I feel like our dogs like are the same way. They fight over the same way. They fight way more than we do, but they fight over like like we'll give them two bones. They only they want to share the same bone. They're like, no, I

want They don't want their own. They need to like have a competition to see you can get it first. Boots literally, Boots is my dog, by the way, and my dog's Ivy. My dogs like tiny and Boots is like a medium sized dog. But Boots is scared of Ivy. I don't know how. I don't know why. He's the weirdest dog. They're weird guys. We will talk probably a lot about our dogs and definitely like an annoying amount. So hopefully there's a lot of dog lovers here. You

are welcome, You are very welcome this podcast. But it is true they're kind of like us because at the end of the night they're literally snuggling together. So I'm just like, how did it go from? Like wrestling? But that is like us because we would get in a

fight when we were younger. We still kind of do this now, and then we'd go into our rooms, shut the door, slammed the door, and we'd just be whatever, being annoying for a second, and then one of us would go into the other one's room, like you would come in and be like, Maddie, do you want to go get ice cream? I'm like yeah, sure, and we just go like nothing happened, which is honestly the best way.

Like if it was an actually serious, like an actual serious argument, we would work through it and talk about it. Several times where we've had arguments for days long where we don't talk to each other, and then it's like it hurts, it hurts, But it's also like do I say something like do I text her? Or like do I wait for her to text me? It's almost like dating. It's like who makes Like it's like, literally, should I wait until they respond? Oh? She responded, and like it

took her thirty minutes. Was fun. I'm and it took like fifty minutes exactly. It's it's like that, but that's just how it is. Yeah. But also, like, deep down, I think we're so protective of each other and we don't want to hurt each other's feelings, and like in the moment maybe we were like we want to have the last word or whatever, but deep down we're just like, oh, I just wish we weren't fighting. And that's how I feel. But sometimes I'm like, sometimes you get the last word

and I'm like, ow, like that really hurt. Because Maddie is so nice to every single person, so am I. But it's just like, if anyone messes with you, I will literally I will yell at them because I am so protective over you. But just like in a fight, I feel like I'm always the more aggressive person. And when Maddie just hits me with that, I was just like, You're like, that's my job. Literally, Yeah, I want you to tell me all the things that drive you crazy

about me. Mm hmm. Okay, you know what I'm gonna say. This has been like top like top thing that drives me crazy about you. No, but like bring it on. Everyone will probably get it. Okay. Um, so when you're on your phone or doing something I don't know whatever, just when you're like focused on something, you block everything

else out. Sometimes, like she'll be on her phone and I'll be like, Maddie, I need to get ready for this, like I need you to help me, and she will not respond for like maybe a minute, and then she'll go huh, it's an ongoing cycle. And then I just go, Okay, I'm I'm over this, and then you get mad at me. I have a really hard time like staying present sometimes, but not in like a serious way. I just like really get in my own world and I zone out for a little bit, and I feel so bad because

almost everyone says that about me, like friends not. I don't do that with like strangers, but if I'm comfortable enough with someone, I'll just like go into my own world. And it's never personal. Sometimes I take it personal though I know, I know, But most of the time you're watching like like the weirdos, Like no, it's like pimple popping videos and like guys things on TikTok, and I'm just like, how are you so focused? Like I don't understand.

So that's that's the only thing that drives you crazy about me? M hmm. I actually can't think of anything else. I feel like there's way more things you can think of. It's just not coming to your head right now. I'm trying to think, stupid. I think something that's annoying is when you used to drive me to pilates. You would always give me your trash from your car when I drop you off, this and this and this and this, and I say, I'm like, no, no, no no, no, you

just drive away, just fully drive away. You're walking towards a trash can, and it's like You're just this is honestly just saving me a lot of time, so I don't have to do it right, you know, gotcha? Sometimes you need a help in hand. I'm trying to think if there's anything that drives me crazy about you, Well, I do. It does drive me a little crazy that you are so messy, but I know it's not intentional. Well, thanks, I guess that's not that harsh, like I think mine was.

Pretty hard. Oh, I mean, but I actually like, no, don't backtrack, no, no no, like there's actually nothing that like drives me crazy anymore because I don't live with you. We both decided at some point without really communicating it to each other, it's like we need separate groups of friends, like absolutely, yeah, like it was vital for us, and I think it was really beneficial because we were already so close and like we had it was very like suffocating at times, and so it was nice to break

off and like have our separate things. And we were always like close with each other's friends, but it was never like we wouldn't hang out with them one on one. Yeah, I mean, like it really depends on the friend. Like I think that's how it is. If you know, if it's Jake, our friend Jake, like we can hang out with him together together because it's more fun that way.

But I feel like, you know, my friends, I'm just like, no, these are my friends, Like you can like them, you can talk to them, but you can't hang out with even if I really really love your friends, I've never had a thought in my head where it's like you might want to hang out with them one on one. You know, I've never felt that way about your friends either. It's always like, if I'm going to see them, like

it's gonna be with Maddie. Obviously, I hope that everyone like enjoys us because we have a lot to talk about, for like the fact that we want to open up about things, Like we obviously wanted to be lighthearted and

fun because that's who we are. We really are just like two silly girls, Like I mean, at least that's how I like to like say who we are, right, But I feel like we also have never really opened up on a personal level or talked like Also, now that we're growing up, we're learning a lot at the same time as like a lot of our like followers and things. So I feel like it's really cool that we're like growing up and learning together and we get

to educate each other. There's a lot that we've learned in the past year with everything that's gone on in the world, and I think it's so important that we stay up to date with all. Okay, I actually wanted to talk about this though. I think your relationship with mom also got really, really really good when you moved out. I think it just it made us all like, so

so so close. I feel like you should talk about that. Yeah, I think, uh well, I think for any parent it's really hard for their first baby to leave, And it was really hard for me to understand that. For a while. I was just like, why isn't she letting me? Like why doesn't she want me to leave? Like this is bound to happen. She did it too when she was my age and I and now moving out, I'm like,

oh my gosh, I so understand. Like we me and mom really had a really good understanding of each other, and I feel like we actually like because as a and I think we both like established this like obviously your parents sent boundaries with you, but once you reach a certain age, of course you're allowed to have your own boundaries as well with your parents. So I think it was really cool that Mom and I really just like worked it out and our relationship is so strong now.

It wasn't that you had a bad relationship. We're obviously like the teenager you know, phase is just I feel like it's probably awful for parents because it's like like these kids they're going through like all these hormones exactly. So I felt it was just like a lot for her having both like two teenagers, but now you guys are like best friends. Like she's always like, oh, I'm going to hang out with Mattie Boots and I'm just

like that would never like I don't know. Also, the funniest thing is like I was so excited to move out, and the second Mom left and I was in my apartment alone, I literally called Mom. I think eleven told me that I called her like probably eleven times that day. It's like, Mom, how do you do this? And where where should I put this? And I know that it made her super happy, but it also made me super happy because I was like, Wow, we're working together to

kind of like bond in a really special way. And I think now our family, like us three together, it's really special. Since you left, she has gone so obsessed with me. I'm like, okay, this is this is a lot like because she was so obsessed with you, she was obsessed with me, but it was just like you're the older one, you could talk about more things like Also, the focus was like on me leaving. I feel like she had to be able to close that chapter and

let it go. And then she's like my other b well, I was also like I still am, but like I'm more of an extrovert, Like I just always wanted to not be home, and so now that like I'm home, she's like, Kencie, what do you want to do? And I'm just like, like, what do you mean? What do you think we're doing? But I do love her. She's so funny. Yeah, she's actually so cute. I know she looks so young now than she did I so we better follow that same routine. I don't know what she's doing,

but I won't want to in her water. Let me take a sip of that one. This is now just an episode about our mom. She's gonna be so you better be listening to this she are you kidding? She is? Probably she's probably already listened to this four times crying. Probably like recorded this snippet and put on Instagram and was just like I love my kids, They're my whole world, which is so cute, But her Instagram options she needs

like serious help. I'm worried how much she's obsessed with our dogs and how she is their grandma and gandma. That's what she likes to say, and it's I'm nervous for out she's not gonna have a dog with her. Okay. We talked about our mom a lot. We talked about being sisters, we talked about fighting, But like, we just want to say that this podcast is not just going to be about siblings, Like, we actually have a lot that we want to open up about and talk to

you guys about. Yeah, we're gonna be talking about relationships and dating and friendships and mental health. I think is the most important, and I feel like we need to talk about that. Um. I feel like now more than ever in this world, this generation of social media, online bullying, hate, Like we really need to dive into that because we

are literally the target age for that, right. So, I feel like and I've hoped that a lot of you guys uh get to relate to us on a lot of these topics, which I think you will, Like we're all just like trying to figure it out, so all growing up together. We're finally doing something together that's fun, I know, And and it's actually really fun because I feel like we'll learn about well, we'll learn more about

each other in this process. I know we're going to become too close again and then we're gonna start fighting anyway exactly We're gonna be like, let's live together. Thank you guys so much for listening and we will see you next time too many. Thanks so much for taking twenty with us. If you had fun, please give us five stars. You can follow lew Us on Instagram at Take twenty podcast, email us at Take twenty at I heart radio dot com, or you can call us at

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