[Unknown] Honestly, I've never talked about this with anybody. [Phoebe] You're like, brrring. [Phoebe] And things just start to spark. [Phoebe] And you don't know what's happening. [Ed] Right, because you don't know what's going on. [Ed] And it's just, it's all new and so shiny. [Phoebe] He opens the door. [Phoebe] And we're all of a sudden we're in the shower together [Phoebe] and I'm like, I didn't even play with this, man. [Phoebe] I didn't even see him in the bedroom.
[Guest] And now you're Lufa buddies with this guy. [Phoebe] And now, right, how many times do you leave [Phoebe] a swing or party, and you say to yourself, the sex sucked. Currently, you're having great [Phoebe] sex with your partner, but the swinging sex blows. A major study found that women have better [Phoebe] sex and more orgasms in relationship sex than casual sex. What are we missing? And is it possible
[Unknown] to get more out of casual sex while swinging? Welcome to Swinger University, I'm Ed. [Phoebe] Anna, I'm Phoebe. All right, let's be honest. I mean, no one really talks about this. [Phoebe] Honestly, I've never talked about this with anybody in the Swinger community. [Ed] No, I mean, we've had a few conversations and we've mentioned in episodes how to make sex better [Ed] and we've talked about trying to find long term partners instead of casual sex partners
[Phoebe] in a lifestyle. Right. Thinking this is the mysterious formula. Right. Right. So, [Phoebe] why don't we ask what is the quality of sex in the lifestyle? We never, is it too personal? [Ed] I don't know why. I think we should. I think at the next party, we should absolutely lock up [Unknown] to people and go, do you orgasm? And orgasms aren't even necessarily the measure of whether [Ed] you're having good sex or not. Exactly. So yeah, that's a really good question.
[Phoebe] How many times do you have great sex at a lifestyle party? Right. And I don't think a lot of people [Phoebe] really think about that. I think they think about having a good time and there's a lot of good [Phoebe] times that we have had. But when it comes down to the sex, was it really a good time? Right. [Phoebe] Do you ever wake up the next day and go, hmm, that really wasn't that much fun.
[Unknown] It wasn't as good as I thought it was going to be. Right. Yeah. I have had this question the next [Phoebe] day many a time. Yes, she has. And as you mentioned, what constitutes great sex or a great time [Unknown] is it the orgasm? All right. So that's the story, right? Like that's what everybody's thinking, [Ed] that's what we're thinking about with the episode. Let's talk about some facts. We'll get a few
[Ed] numbers in here. And then later in the episode, you want to stay tuned because we're going to talk [Unknown] about how to potentially make the sex better. And we're going to give you five tips [Unknown] to having better sex in the lifestyle. Hopefully. No guarantees. [Phoebe] Right. Because we can't guarantee anything. But we think that these will help. [Unknown] We think these will help. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. So a study was done. Well, there was there've been
[Unknown] multiple studies, multiple multiple studies done. And what they found was around 20,000 [Phoebe] undergrads across 20 plus colleges in the United States. And I picked this one study because [Ed] it was pretty significant. And what was this study? It was a study on hooking up. [Phoebe] And how do I sign up for the next study? Right. I know. Like, hello. Hello. Yes, please. [Phoebe] I volunteer as tribute. So they were asking people about penetrative sex and orgasms.
[Phoebe] What we found was 70 to 90% of women are unable to orgasm vaginally just period. Right. [Phoebe] More so on the 70% 90s. Pretty high. But I've found other studies where it's 70% [Phoebe] women can't orgasm vaginally alone. They need some other stimulation. And 90% of women say they [Phoebe] can't even get there vaginally with an orgasm unless they're on top. Right. And I have seen that [Ed] and heard that from women in the lifestyle. That makes sense. Now, here's what's interesting.
[Phoebe] When you're hooking up once with someone as a woman, you have a 15% chance of having an orgasm. [Unknown] When you're hooking up with that person, maybe the second time twice, right? [Phoebe] 20% chance of having an orgasm only 5% more. Right. And women in relationships six months [Phoebe] or longer can have an orgasm about 73% of the time. So, I mean, what this is telling me is [Ed] longer a woman has a connection with a man or the experience with a man or they've instructed
[Ed] him how to do things properly the third, the fourth, the fifth time. However many times they've [Ed] had sex in the first six months. And depending on the frequency, it takes a while to learn your
[Ed] partner. It takes a while to kind of understand what their buttons are. And if the guy's not paying [Ed] attention or not listening to direction and just doing his own thing, I mean, I'm not surprised [Unknown] that it's in that lower percentile because I think guys can pretty much come with the
[Ed] blowing of a wind. But, you know, women take a little bit more work than that. And I think also [Ed] there's a little bit of an emotional component to this, which we have seen in numerous studies as [Phoebe] we've been doing the podcast. Right. And if it's not emotion, I can see the emotion being in the [Phoebe] relationship aspect of it, of this part of the study. But also that just that level of intimacy
[Phoebe] goes a long way. And intimacy doesn't mean relationship. And it doesn't mean you're crossing [Phoebe] any lines. But we are human beings and we find warmth and compassion within each other. And it's [Unknown] okay to have an intimate moment. It doesn't have to be like, bam, bam, thank you, man, black [Phoebe] and white. Right. You'd be more fulfilling with that. You've got a better connection with that
[Ed] person. And that connection can kind of vary in terms of how you feel connected to them. It doesn't [Ed] necessarily have to be a ring on a finger. And, you know, walking down the aisle, kind of level of [Unknown] commitment. But yeah. Yeah. So concepts of sexual satisfaction. Let's let's talk about some [Ed] of these different concepts. I think one of the most important things that I've learned is really
[Ed] understanding what techniques work with each partner. The same technique that you use all the time [Ed] with your regular partner may not work with your casual partner, the partner who you've just met. [Ed] Yeah. You're going to have to ask for some direction. You're going to have to ask for do they [Ed] like it harder? Do they like immediate stimulation? Do they like a little bit more warm up? Do they
[Ed] prefer dirty talk? Do they need a little bit of domination? Yeah. I had a partner recently who [Ed] actually preferred that. Like she wanted a little bit more of an aggressive male kind of a thing. [Phoebe] That's kind of what got her juices going. Yeah. But there's a lot of other women like you who [Ed] like a long slow, maybe a massage instead of a direct, literal stimulation, right? Yeah.
[Phoebe] Exactly. Yeah. That's worth it. That consent conversation comes in. And a lot of times we just [Phoebe] don't do that in the lifestyle. Right. Because you know, things change and the parties are different. [Phoebe] Themes are different. The vibe is different. And orgies are fun. And sometimes you want to jump [Phoebe] into the puppy pile. There's not a lot of time for conversation. Yeah. And I think that's most of it.
[Ed] I think most of it is everybody's really excited that they've got a new partner. It's not their spouse [Unknown] or their significant other. And they're like holy crap. Do I get to, can I open my present now? [Ed] Yes. Yes. And sometimes that's like, okay, let me get a condom. Yes. And you're like, whoa, [Ed] whoa, slow down, buddy. Yeah. Take a little time. Now I can appreciate an aggressive woman who
[Ed] wants to just get straight down to business. I have a couple partners who really like that. And [Ed] it's fun and different for me because you are such a slow warmer. Yes. Which I also enjoy. [Unknown] It's a bit of a tease. But it gets me there. And I think that the more time you spend with a
[Ed] partner, so like the statistic said, first time, second time, not so good. But if you've met [Ed] a couple and you've had a couple dates with them, that second and third experience is going to [Ed] be better, possibly because you've asked questions and you've learned the technique that works for [Ed] them. And you can just apply that technique immediately. But the other part of it is you actually
[Ed] may be more comfortable asking them about techniques the second or third time. Right. Or even [Phoebe] after you've had sex where you've had a good time. Maybe this sex wasn't great. But the vibe was fun. [Phoebe] And you you played and you had some soft swapping. Maybe you had soft swapping. And then you're [Phoebe] laying on the bed and you're laughing and you're going, wow, you know, that was that was a blast.
[Phoebe] I really liked when you did XYZ. Right. Let's try that again next time or next time. If you guys [Guest] are up for it, we'd love to explore this. Yeah. And those are those fun conversations that you [Unknown] get to have with people that you have nice connections with. All right. We need your help so that [Ed] your community, the very one you love and have so much fun with can also find our show.
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[Ed] And I could imagine in, and this is just imagining because we've never been in this situation, [Ed] but in like a poly relationship where you've established kind of a long-term sexual relationship [Ed] with another partner that you've started to learn their buttons. You've started to learn their [Ed] kind of ins and outs of what excites them and how they like to be turned on and what gets them there. [Ed] And I think if you try to apply that to a casual situation, you could also say
[Ed] that the quality of the relationship also affects casual sex. You've had really good flirty [Ed] conversation with this couple. I think I've had better sex with that couple than the ones that we [Unknown] just kind of ran into in the playroom. You know, the whole hey, there's some room on the bed. [Ed] Can we lay down next to you and then some stuff kind of happens. They've been exciting [Ed] because it's random, like totally like, oh my. What's going to happen?
[Ed] But not exciting from the standpoint that they did anything right or they did anything wrong. [Ed] It was just kind of, it was fumbling sex in the backseat kind of thing. [Unknown] Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's awesome. That's a great way to describe it. [Ed] So it's fun. It's novel and I think the novelty is why it's so exciting. But you don't have any [Unknown] kind of quality. It's drive by sex. This sometimes literally is, she slipped and fell and landed
[Phoebe] on his dick. Yeah. So now I get it. I get it. Like this whole fumbling in the back seat. They're [Phoebe] coming out in the way back machine because it brought me back to those feelings of when you're [Phoebe] in junior high, right? You've got all these emotions going. Right. Something random happens. [Phoebe] You're like, bring and like things just start to spark and then you don't know what's happening.
[Ed] Right, because you don't know what's going on. And it's just, it's all new and [Unknown] so shiny. I know. Yes. Now, the other component that works, I think in long-term relationships, [Ed] is that that emotional component, right? You've, you've chemically bonded with that other person. [Ed] And it's not just chemistry. There's a lot of other stuff too. There's social aspects and [Ed] emotion. And the emotions, though, are kind of based on a lot of those things, those sub components.
[Ed] And I think with your long-term partner, you have built that emotional component. And I think with [Ed] repeat customers, you could get some kind of an emotional bond with them, which will improve it, [Unknown] which kind of, you know, to keep back on topic, casual sex doesn't have most of these components
[Phoebe] because you just met these people. Right. Right. Exactly. Okay. So we've talked about these [Ed] connections that you make with people and kind of why orgasms can work once you've had a little [Ed] bit of a connection. So how is it that hooking up in the lifestyle is different? Like, why [Ed] doesn't it work? Why doesn't it hit the right buttons? I think a lot of it has to do with [Ed] partners that you run across. They just may not have the skills. And it's not that they're bad
[Unknown] lovers. They don't know your buttons. They don't know how to please you as a partner because [Ed] they've never played with you before. Right. And everybody's buttons are different. Yeah. [Ed] I mean, there's some general rules like probably don't go straight to the hammer time, [Ed] slow down a little bit. But even beyond that, it's the right level of penetration to deep, [Ed] to shallow, too fast, too slow, like all of that stuff, you have to kind of learn it.
[Phoebe] Right. And I am going to throw in there the longer you've been in the lifestyle as a [Phoebe] male or female, you're going, males are going to be better at not allowing the distractions in [Guest] the room to throw them off. Right. Right. Because they're used to that. Now they can focus [Phoebe] because that's a huge factor when you first start out. And the second thing is they [Phoebe] get really good at reading women, honestly. They're better. Yeah. Yeah. If they haven't been good
[Phoebe] at reading women in the past, different women, they're good. They get really good at reading [Ed] different women by being in the lifestyle. Yeah. And I think that there's an aspect of experience [Unknown] in interacting with different partners that you start to learn, oh, God, they are different.
[Ed] Or they listen to our podcast and learn, oh, God, women are all different. And I think the second [Ed] and third partner that isn't making good noises or isn't moving around as much or is clancing [Ed] at their partner making weird faces at them, you start to pick up on that and go, okay, [Ed] I haven't figured this out yet. And I think you're right. With experience, they start to realize [Ed] I got to change my game. Right. I got to step up. Now the other part, the other part,
[Phoebe] my point was to women will start to speak up and ask for what they want. Now I've done that. [Phoebe] Hopefully. Yes. I know I'm in charge of my own orgasm and I'm responsible for that. So I [Phoebe] ask for what I want. I started to really use my voice. And that was a huge improvement in [Phoebe] the satisfaction that I received in the lifestyle. Now I will say, I don't see a lot of women do that.
[Ed] I really don't. No, I have very few partners that will verbally communicate, like explicit [Ed] directions. A lot of them are happy to say, I really like that or that's good, which is great. [Phoebe] You'll get like slow or don't go too deep. Yes. That's that's just hard. I need to warm up more or [Phoebe] or the nipples thing is a big one. Sensitive on the nipples or bite them harder or yeah, [Ed] don't pinch you. Right. Those things. Yeah. Yeah. And I think a lot of that comes down to
[Ed] it's uncomfortable. Yes. And they speak up because they're like, I don't want this to continue. [Phoebe] Yes. Or it has happened in the past and they're like, I don't want this to impact my experience [Phoebe] with you. So I'll just tell you upfront. But we're moving past that. We're moving to [Ed] how do you get them to orgasm? So yes. Yes. Yes. These were all, you know, don't [Ed] back the car into the pole kind of things. And what we're trying to get to is, okay, how do we
[Ed] make this better? Yes. Let's get to the let's just do it. Let's just do it. We're going to get [Ed] to our five tips for making casual sex better. And this works for swingers. And it will probably [Ed] work for singles too because casual sex is still casual sex. Yes. Confidence about your body, [Phoebe] body image, confidence, your loving your body, feeling good in your skin. Right. And knowing where
[Unknown] you're confident to know, how do I want to say that? Confident, the compassion that you have [Phoebe] for yourself, be confident to have that compassion when you're not feeling it that night or maybe [Phoebe] you don't want to dress the theme that they have the night or maybe you don't want to change into [Unknown] that lingerie at 10 o'clock or whatever. Right. Be compassionate to yourself. Have that confidence
[Phoebe] do things that that will help your confidence. And also talk about the sex. Right. Talk about what [Unknown] you want. Maybe talk about what turns you on. Yeah. And I think I think the confidence component [Ed] is really important. Having confidence allows you to feel okay with saying what you like or what [Ed] you don't like. And and be upfront about that. Yeah. I mean, we all struggle with confidence at
[Phoebe] different moments of our lives and in different situations. You just try it on one time. And if [Unknown] anything, it's fake until you make it. Yes. 100%. Communication. Everyone always talks about communication. [Phoebe] We also have done a polythera of episodes on communication. And what I want to talk about in this [Phoebe] area are three things, expectations, your desires and the rules of engagement. So expectations.
[Phoebe] What are you looking for that night? Right. Right. Talk about what you're in the mood for just [Phoebe] because you are typically a DTF person. You just want to go straight to it. That's your thing. [Guest] Maybe you don't want that that night. Right. Maybe you want a little more central play or maybe [Phoebe] you just want a little more warm up. Right. Right. Right. Or you've got a new partner and they don't
[Phoebe] know what your preferences are. So communicating that is key to having a much better experience. [Ed] Absolutely. Desires. Yeah. What kind of what are you looking for besides what your expectations [Ed] are? Like kind of what's turning you on at the moment? Yeah. So you've got four people in a room [Ed] or three people in a room. Like do you want to watch what's going on? Maybe you're the fourth partner
[Ed] and you just want to watch what's going on? Or is it really I want all three people to have full [Ed] attention on my body? Yes. Yes. Yes. Or I want one woman on my face and the other one riding me. [Phoebe] Right. And then two more on each hand. Right. Right. Because you know it changes. These aren't bucket lists [Phoebe] but they are things that it's what you're in the mood for that night. It's really what you're in
[Phoebe] the mood for. Yeah. Honestly. Well said. Rules of engagement. What what you're what you're [Phoebe] into or what you're willing to? You're your rules, your game. Right. Like for example, [Phoebe] do you like spanking? Do you like oral? Do you like clitoral stimulation? Do you like a little of
[Phoebe] the the choking? What what is it that are your rules? Yeah. And I think we've covered this [Ed] before but I I think every time we talk about it, it's okay to repeat it because I don't think [Ed] enough people do it. And that is don't talk about the things that you're not into. Right. [Ed] Talk about the things that you're specifically into. So kind of like desires, it's talk about what [Ed] you're what things you want to physically happen. It's okay to say I'm not I'm not down for
[Ed] anal and I don't like heavy spanking but you can pinch my naples a little bit. That that's good. [Ed] That's still good communication. But still talk about exactly what you want because that's one [Ed] that sets much clearer boundaries because you you've got a path to that goal set out. Whereas [Ed] if you just say don't do this and that there's a lot of empty space between knots. Correct.
[Phoebe] And it's really hard to navigate that. Correct. Because you just say no spanking but you go but I [Ed] really like my naples pinched hard. Well you didn't say that. You just said I don't like spanking. [Ed] There's a whole bunch of other menu items that you didn't talk about. Exactly. [Phoebe] Be sexually assertive. I like assertive. I know you do. This is really important in casual [Phoebe] situations that are unfamiliar. These nonverbal assertive cues when you're already engaged with
[Phoebe] somebody are really really important. You may want to grab that person to bring them closer. [Unknown] You may want to use your voice to give them feedback. You may want to rub your clit [Phoebe] because that's what gives you off. Don't be shy to do that in front of a stranger if that's [Unknown] what works with your other primary partner. Do it with this person. Don't feel like it's a
[Unknown] a slight or something against their skills. Honestly for most men they really like seeing that. [Ed] Absolutely. I can attest watching a woman go I'm going to use a toy and you at the same time. [Ed] I'm like oh hell yes please please can I watch? Yes and many many women will bring their [Phoebe] vibrator or favorite toy dildo to to the party. Right because it's fun and it gets them off.
[Phoebe] They get what they want for the evening and it's a hell of a show. It's 100% and some women [Phoebe] will like to share toys and there's a whole other episode there on sharing toys and making [Unknown] sure they're clean but we will get to that later. Passion and intimacy. So casual sex doesn't [Ed] mean that there's no intimacy. I mean you're flirting with this person. You're kind of making a
[Ed] connection with them. At least that's the goal. You want to turn them on so you're trying to [Ed] understand them a little bit. You're trying to become more intimate with them. [Phoebe] Right and we were touching on this earlier and there's that misnomer that casual is just pure [Phoebe] physical pleasure but we can have like you said that that emotion component
[Phoebe] and not be so so distant with one another. Yeah and I think for fear that we're going to like [Ed] you know leave our partner and they're yeah that that is a whole other level of [Ed] of there's another tough yeah that we're not getting it into in this particular episode. [Ed] But I think that there's a I think even for men and I'm talking to you that there's this [Ed] misunderstanding of what intimacy is. I have much better experiences when I've gotten to know the
[Ed] woman and I feel like there's some sexual chemistry. It's not just physical attraction. It's not [Ed] just that she gives a good blow job. It's not just that she's a lot of fun and bed. [Ed] Having that extra connection where it's been a little flirty it makes the experience so much [Phoebe] better for me. Yes 100% and research actually indicates that this somewhat more of this [Unknown] closeness intimate passion does yield a more satisfying experience. Yeah.
[Ed] Now I'll throw in a little bit of a caution with this. One of our early experiences I was very [Ed] passionately kissing a woman on the dance floor and early on that can be a little intimidating [Ed] for your primary partner. So make sure everybody's on the same page. Yes well and you may have [Phoebe] to walk through that. I mean I was never used to seeing you do that right. So it was highly
[Ed] unusual and I agree it was very unusual. It's a bit shocking to me. So I got a little triggered [Phoebe] but that doesn't mean that can't happen again that just we just go offline. We talk about it [Phoebe] later that evening or the next day. However a couple wants to do that and maybe you say yeah [Phoebe] you know I was triggered. You move past it and you can come back to that fun type of
[Phoebe] make-out session again or maybe you can't maybe you just decide that's a real thing. That's just a [Ed] thing right. Now I'll also throw in we've been talking about kind of intimacy from like a sexual [Ed] standpoint but there's a different kind of intimacy and this is one that you and I really like [Ed] and that's kind of cuddle fucking. It's the laughing about something because somebody made a
[Ed] weird noise or somebody giggles or somebody says oh golly in the middle of having sex. Yeah [Unknown] yeah I'm not looking at anybody. It's the fun aspect of it and I think kind of letting your [Ed] hair down as they say and just having a good time helps a lot with that and it's not having a [Ed] good sexual time is just having fun with these people. These are new people who you've met and [Phoebe] you're having a great great time with them. I know in fact I just recalled a shower scene
[Phoebe] situation where we were in an orgy I get up you must have still been on the bed. I go to take a [Phoebe] shower because I was just drenched in sweat. The room was hot. I go take a shower. Some other guy [Phoebe] is done in the orgy room. He comes in. He doesn't want to wait for the shower. Oh I remember that. [Phoebe] He opens the door and we're all of a sudden we're in the shower together and I'm like I didn't
[Phoebe] even play with this man. I didn't even see him in the bedroom because it was a large bedroom and [Guest] they were on one corner and they were on the right and now you're loofa buddies with this guy. [Phoebe] And now right so strangely intimate in the shower and I'm like this is a lot of fun. Yeah [Ed] this is a lot of fun and at the last house party we were at I was in the bathroom and it
[Unknown] I had just finished having sex and I was I was relieving myself. I was urinating. Right right [Ed] and the door happened to be cracked open. Woman walked in and she goes wow comfortable. And I was [Ed] like you know what everybody's seen everything at this point. I kind of not worried about it anymore [Phoebe] and she was like nice package. That's right. Opened up all kinds of doors for stuff to happen
[Phoebe] in the future just saying. Yep. It's a great conversation there. I know that that same party [Phoebe] was really funny. Same thing similar happened to me. Someone walked in and we the woman and I [Phoebe] were chatting and I said you know what I'm just gonna use the bathroom but you can stay and she's [Phoebe] like well I'm like no I don't care. And so she's talking to me. I don't even know her. I'm peeing
[Phoebe] on the toilet. I really don't once again you're naked you're running around the house naked [Phoebe] everyone's seeing everything. I'm like really I really don't care if you see me peeing. It's not a big deal. [Ed] I do it every day. It's several times not any sexual at that point. So that's the kind of [Ed] you know fun intimacy that we are talking about. It's absolutely. All right. The fifth tip is
[Phoebe] do you some caution and research shows that women connect sex and love more than men do. Yeah. Yeah. [Phoebe] And women desire fewer sexual partners than men on average. Right. And add it intimacy with [Unknown] others may or may not be for you or your partner. And it does require more communication practice [Phoebe] trial and error. Right. And there was a woman at one of the BDSM parties that we met and she was
[Phoebe] very specific about what she said she was. She had a definition for it which I could remember. [Phoebe] But it was essentially she said I I attach very easily to people that I am sexually intimate with. [Phoebe] Therefore I cannot do that. Right. Because that affects me greatly and affects my partner greatly. [Phoebe] So I'm here to facilitate a good time to flirt with everybody and to help in any way I can. Right.
[Phoebe] And I thought wow. That's I really respected that she just came out and just said that out front. [Phoebe] She was very confident about it. And you knew exactly where she stood. So you knew where her [Phoebe] boundaries were and you knew not to push it. But you knew she gave you what you also needed which was [Phoebe] she likes to be flirty and you and she said you can touch me. Right. But I just want to have sex with
[Phoebe] you. So just so we know a front no sex because that's not what I do but flirting and kissing and [Phoebe] not that that's my thing. And it all works that way. Right. Yeah. It's great. So knowing those
[Phoebe] boundaries and is good but you're not always going to know that upfront. You're going to have to test [Phoebe] those boundaries and that's that communication and the love and respect that you have or one another [Unknown] to work through those challenges that next day is going to be really important for your long-term [Phoebe] swing or hobby or lifestyle if that's how you want to look at it. So in conclusion casual sex
[Ed] typically sucks. It's not great in lifestyle because people go into it hoping that they can just [Ed] flop down on a bed have amazing sex and be done. Yeah. Thankfully it doesn't work like that and [Ed] it does require a little bit of work on both partners to get to a really fun and enjoyable sexual
[Unknown] experience. So communicate with your partner. Slow down to learn what they need, what they like [Ed] and tell them what you want and what you like and work towards having a little bit of intimacy [Unknown] to make those experiences even better for both of you. Well said. Thanks for listening and check us [Ed] out with all the rest of our episodes. You can check out our Patreon content at patreon.com slash
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