Hello, everyone, and welcome to the Superhero Slate, the show we run down the latest superhero entertainment news. We love TV, movies and superheroes. So maybe we'll talk it all out. My name is Chris. And my name is Mike. And this week we're reviewing the first season of X-Men 97. Mike. You're back. You were out. So now we can talk X-Men 97. And we're going to talk that at the end of the show.
as I told you on Monday, I think we told everyone last week on the show get your Deadpool Wolverine tickets quick. These are selling out very quickly I don't know. I went to my favorite theater and they normal seats. That whole row was booked up already, and I was like, maybe 30 minutes behind, so. Well, we don't have it. We don't have it in the show notes this week, but maybe people are using the money they saved on not going to Furiosa. Oh yeah, he's Deadpool tickets.
That's that's true. But nobody went anywhere this weekend. But but that's that's something we can talk about here at the top of the show. I've got a leaked, plot synopsis for Venom The Last Dance, and it's definitely going to go out with a bang. Man, we were talking about this. Yeah, yeah. And more and more. Welcome back. Welcome back to the show this week. Yes. Thank you. The, the baby shower went off well last week, which is why I was not on the show. So now I'm excited to be back.
We can talk about X-Men 97. Luckily, it wasn't spoiled for me in any way. though this wasn't really like a spoilery show in a way. Like, I know there are like, twists and turns, but for some reason I feel like no matter what anyone would tell you, like, there's still so much to enjoy in this show. yeah. Yeah, I got lucky there. but, Chris, I wasn't going to let this slide just before you started recording, you started, saying that you are trying to purchase an electric guitar. Yeah, yeah.
So you can cook breakfast foods in mass. And I bet you thought I would have no anecdote or. No, no, absolutely. No. No, I, I knew you would, but I do. But just before we started recording the podcast, my wife leans over to me and she goes, hey, babe. And I was like, yeah, like, do you want a shop-vac? And I was like, say less? Of course I want a shop vac. So I think somebody was giving one of those away on our local Buy Nothing group. So you'll get an electric griddle. I got a shop vac.
We'll all start having kids, and then this will be the one hour a week where we act like we're not adults. We're we're not adults. Well, we kind of are adults. And I think a lot of people would appreciate our talks about griddles and shop acts, because you never know when you're going to need those, right? Yeah. You get to a certain point. You're like, man, I wish I had a shop vac. so it's just this kind of thing. But the electric griddle thing is we have a we have a stove. well, I say it's new.
I've been to my house three years today, actually, and, and what's crazy is, you know, my stove is great. We have this glass top, all this fun stuff. But, like, when you're trying to cook breakfast, you're, like, juggling so many different pans across the stovetop. I'm like, I just want one nice flat surface with this. And the one I'm looking at. Mike, you'll appreciate this is a 3 in 1 griddle. It's got the grill racks on one side, the flat space on the other.
so you can actually so you can like have either the grill marks or the, the flat griddle thing. and then you just take those off, put them in the dishwasher and the grill and everything's good. Do you have a cabinet in the kitchen that will be tribute to hold on to this griddle? Absolutely. we actually, so we have a laundry room next. Our laundry room is next to our kitchen at the end of it, and it's got two closets in there. One is a cleaning supplies closet.
One is the food supplies closet like where the air fryer lives? you know, the, Instant Pot. And then now the griddle will live next to it. So, you know, you got the check boxes of all these, fancy home appliances that we didn't have growing up, for that, but. Yeah, absolutely. We have a place for them to live now. You're shop-vac, are you? Are you are you sweeping up a lot of stuff with the shop vac? That's the question I have for you. I just didn't imagine you having a use for one.
You know what? When I have it, I will find uses for sure. I they're I always remember my dad using them in almost emergency situations. Like something's backing up. Like you can suck up water with a shop vac, which is something that I think some people might not know. So, like if you have, like, a toilet, back it up or you have like a sink backing up and that water needs to go somewhere, that's when you run for the shop vac.
we have like the original version of the Dyson that we got years and years and years ago off of Khou.com. If anyone remembers woot.com. and this thing is a workhorse. The Dyson is amazing. You can rip it down to all of its base components and clean it and put it back together. It's like truly feels like an object that no longer gets made anymore or something made to be like replaced and cleaned and fixed and repaired.
but even like at its like best, it still can't quite get the real stuck in stuff that like might be like cars upholstery. like we had a whole bunch of stuff in my wife's trunk that was like, stuck to all these fibers. So it's like, man, we had a shop vac. We need that horsepower. Oh, that suction, boy. Oh, yeah. Well, and I think we had a, we had to shop vacs for a little bit, and it's great.
Whenever we were redoing our basement, and, you know, whenever you just have all that dust in, like, debris from, like, cutting things, wood, concrete, taking up the old carpet, everything that was just underneath that old carpet. it was it was just, it was just great to have. So I didn't imagine you, I just didn't know, I could remember. well, you're going to have to reframe the way that you look at your co-host of superheroes. Like he is a shop vac kind of guy sometimes.
Yeah, well, I know that's kind of hard to imagine, Chris, but. Yeah, you know, so when I come out next month, you're going to show me what you do with it. yeah, Chris, we're going to get all up in that shop vac. It will be not safe for work. Okay, but speaking of not safe, Chris, you survived tornadoes this weekend, and we have been blessed by Mother Nature to record this podcast because somehow you still have internet and you still have electricity. That's right.
Yeah. There were I don't know how. You manage. That. There was several tornadoes coming across the Midwest yesterday. Once in the morning, knocked out some tree stuff. I showed you photos. Power was out, on and off all day. It was wild. and then, you know, it was even last year. Even they came when I was a YouTube channel. they sent to you guys. There's, like, this guy. That's all he does is sit on YouTube and, like, updates people has people, like, out in the storms. It was kind of crazy.
Yeah, I clicked into that link. That guy has taken a masterclass in vamping because he's essentially looking at the same radar for, you know, ten minutes at a time. you know, things occasionally update. So he's kind of just doing like the Weather Channel strategy of just recycling the same information over and over, because people, new people are popping in and out of it all the time. So but that is a skill. I'm not saying it's a bad thing.
I'm like, we try our best sometimes the vamp on this show, or I'll get like a secret message from Chris saying like something has fallen in my house. I have to make sure everyone's still alive. vamp for 60s. And I'm like, oh, boy, here we go. Yeah, guys out here doing it for hours. Yeah, exactly. And he's just like, Well, I appreciate about he had, like, the most nonchalant personality either. Right. Like, he was just like, just like giving updates, like. Yeah, there we go. Storms. Look at this.
This is where the thing is, I'm like, he's like a weatherman. Like on the local news. We have so much energy and hype and be like, you know, oh, you cannot yelling. But you know what I'm saying? Like, kind of like Tom cruise jumping up and down on the couch watching the tornadoes coming through. And, the this guy was just so chill. So it was great, but I'm doing great. Everything's fine.
I was going to mow my lawn today because Memorial Day here, we're going on Monday, and the weather's really nice, but then I went outside and you could hear that squishy ground beneath your feet. I'm like, oh, no, I'm good, I think. I think I'll hold off for a bit. But I am curious, though, because it wasn't just like a tornado that kind of like hit your area. It was like this huge cell moving across the middle of the country.
And I, I am curious if it had any sort of effect on the box office for, Furiosa, because, I didn't get a chance to go see it this weekend. I would like to see it. I brought up rewatching Fury Road on the show a few weeks back. so a fan of this kind of new. Yeah. Invigoration of the franchise, you know. There's a there are I'm going to say there are three things to me that make this because I want to watch you two. We're both one to watch it. Right.
the weather would have absolutely prevented me from seeing it yesterday. Well, last time I went to a movie, had a tornado warning. Was Mario Brothers, and they had to, like, shut the movie down in the middle of it, so I had to leave in the middle. Super Mario Brothers, when it came out. and so I just, I don't even though I live one stop, by the way, is still going to reset. So yesterday, right out today is actually Memorial Day.
And I'm like, I could, you know, could find time, but I'm here recording with you, Mike and I, I'd much rather do that I think think of the movie theaters. But the third thing I would say that has kind of got me things like, well, I didn't expect and it's not this movie. It's actually the fall Guy movie that came out three weeks ago is already on streaming. Why is that movie that did well already on? Is it really already on? Are you. Serious? It's it's it's on pay pay streaming Pvod.
Yeah. Like honestly it's crazy. So like, I wasn't expecting to talk, so much about, Furiosa on the podcast this week, but it's so funny because it ties into so many different things. Yeah. like it was Memorial Weekend. the wife and I, we just canceled our Cinemark movie club, membership because it was coming up on a year and we're about to have a baby. We're going to be coming to the movie is a lot less coming up, so no reason to hold on to it.
But also, there haven't been a whole lot of movies before we canceled that. We went to go see because we have eight credits remaining that luckily we still get to use like a technically paid for them. So even though I've canceled the service, I have eight free movie tickets to use. so we were ready to go to our local Cinemark and we were first I wanted to see the fall guy. not in our local theater. we wanted my wife really wanted to see the movie. babes?
not in our local Cinemark theater, because our theater is on, like, more of the medium to small size, the one that we like to go to that has all of the, luxury reclining loungers, because it was just full of, like, Garfield and Furious, and there's something else, I think, that just came out that was in there, too. But like, we couldn't go see these movies that had, like, just come out like babes just came out the fall guy, like, like 1 or 2 weeks ago.
So it's on the third week for the fall guy, and then it came out on Pvod this week. I'm like, what the hell happened? So I don't I don't think I don't think it's Furioso fault that came out in preview. I think people are now like, oh, they'll be on streaming in two weeks. But yeah, but it seems like the, the decline of not even decline because it hasn't even really gotten started.
The furious a box office to me just seems like a culmination of a lot of things, which is why it's maybe hard to pinpoint, like who did what wrong knock nobody. Nobody did anything wrong. The movie is being reviewed very well. Nobody. Anything wrong there. The other part of this is this is a, the culmination or I guess, the first wave of the strikes last year. Right. Remember the strikes that pushed everything back a little bit? No one thought Furiosa would be a tentpole summer movie at all.
Last year like that was not last year. It was going to be a marvel movie, right? We were going to have a marvel May movie and then, a marvel summer movie. And they literally everybody has moved everything wild, like wildly through the end of the year, through next year. So Furiosa wasn't supposed to be the tentpole movie that everyone was banking on it to be, because if you go look at mad Max Fury Road, it did not do well in the box office. It like did okay.
It was the the after release where everyone really started to come to watch that movie. So yeah. I think it was like the word of mouth that, that got that first one to grow. And I actually can't even remember necessarily what drove me to go see Fury Road in theaters, because I was it. I didn't really grow up with the mad Max franchise, so it probably was the word of mouth that was like, oh, this movie is really crazy. I need to go see it.
I think you got it, right there, like high expectations for this movie that I still think is relatively niche. I understand the the other movie was very widely acclaimed. A lot of people loved it. This, movie has like, stars in it as well, but I, I just don't think people I don't think there is an appetite for a prequel of it necessarily. So I agree, I've seen the good reviews as well, but like, I don't think it has the juice to get people to the theater as much as they thought it would.
I think it could have, if anything else had already got people going to the theaters. This is not like this is like no one. None of these movies have really got anyone into the theaters this year, right? So like, what is what does it kickstart? What is the engine that's like, oh, I want to go to the movie. That's a good movie. I had a good time. I remember that I'm going to go see another good movie. There was none of that kickstart in the summer, right?
It just kind of came through like, I'm not rushing out to see Kingdom of the planet of the apes. I don't know if it was if the other movie you were thinking of that came out recently. Yeah. That was yeah, that was the other one. Like, if no one came to see if the was the inside out to isn't until June. Deadpool and Wolverine, which is our first topic is in July, so I don't know if there was that kickstart was just never there.
And again, Furiosa is not this was never meant to be a tentpole blockbuster film. It's it is, as you said, it just needs to break even. But I'm also going to say, on the flip side of that, you can't write a movie off the first weekend right now. Like, like literally the the fault of people saying this movie flopped. It didn't have a good opening weekend. We'll start giving it legs, right?
Don't put it on streaming in two weeks because that's what people are have now been trained to do, make them wait six months and they'll probably go see the word of mouth. Like the original mad Max Fury Road. It is pretty wild that that you're telling me right now that I can pay to watch the fall guy at home, because since we had to go to a different movie theater this weekend, we ended up going to see, the new Ilana Glazer movie, babes. that cost me 1899 per ticket.
So that's like 40 bucks to go see that movie in our local AMC, which we would have saved a lot more if we could have gone to our Cinemark. So that's a whole nother factor as well. Like, I'm guessing the VOD on the fall guy is, what, probably 20 bucks? Isn't that usually what what, like premium kind of VOD costs now? Yeah, it could be. The other movie is challengers is already on streaming as well. Yeah. That that that was just in the theaters not too long.
April 26th. Yeah. I'm looking all these up. I'm like, these are all now on Pvod. within 2 to 3 weeks right now. Yeah. But I've seen a lot of discussion out there on the internet just right now. And it's just been interesting to me of people trying to figure out, like, like you're saying, Chris, why hasn't the kind of like the the movie box office started? What's going to kick start it? You know, we have a big movie to talk about here at the top of the show here in a minute. Right.
but if you wanted to go smaller, much, much, much smaller. We did go to the theater this weekend to go watch, babes, which was very topical for my wife and I, because it's all about, two friends kind of going through different stages of having kids. And then I thought it was really, really funny. obviously I related to a lot in it specifically right now in my life, but I think even on its own merit, it was pretty hilarious.
but this does kind of also scream movie that probably won't be in theaters long and you'll be seeing, like, streaming on like, Hulu or something. not too long, but, you know, if you needed to go check it out, I've noticed there's a lot of, there's a lot of activities that seem to, unite, pregnant women in one location now in my life. You know, you go to pregnancy classes, you're surrounded by pregnant people. You go to these, like, infant CPR classes, surrounded by pregnant people.
You go to, opening weekend of a movie that's all about, having a baby. there's pregnant women around you. So, that's what my life is right now. Chris. I'm surrounded by, bumps. They're all over, and I. I couldn't even escape, pregnancy when I finally got around to watching the Dune movies yesterday, I watched both of them back to back five hours of. I thought, that's a lot. That's a lot of do. But do you see why I would tell you not to watch the first one
until the second one came out because of where it is? Yeah. and honestly, I, I, I think I would tell people after watching these to maybe just wait until there's a third one. I don't know if these are going to have an ending at any point in time. So I, I did do a little bit of research and I know it's a book series.
There's, there's like tons of books, but like, at what point is like, is there going to be like a definitive kind of ending, like, when is Timothy shall be going to be out of the picture? And we can kind of close the chapter of the Dune franchise? Well, what's great is like, again, you said but like the first book does end with that one end. So they end there. There are differences. The endings are different than the books, but that is very well where where are the other ends?
The second one, it's not heretics of Dune. it might be the second one. The second book, back is much smaller and deals that far before that. And then you get to Children of Dune, but like it does follow the books pretty pretty closely. If you're like, I want to read the first book and I want to watch the movies, that these two would do it. If you keep going, you're going to get way lost, I think. So, they do, they do. But but did you have a good time with it? That's the question.
You know, because I know you're not you're not much of a Dune person like this is like, maybe your first, experience with the Dune world. Yeah, exactly. I I've had mixed experiences with it. the wife couldn't hang. she agreed to watch part one with me, but, kind of lost the thread and got bored partway through it. And I don't necessarily blame her. there's a lot in here to enjoy.
even kind of, like, outside the plot or the story, I, I love the visual development and the prop design and all of the fun, like, gadgets that you can tell. There was a lot of money and time spent concentrating on things that had like nothing to do with, like the big selling points that you would like see on the poster. Right? like just the little like the just like, that's the fine detail and like the doctors or the shields or like all of these, like, little gadgets.
I love the huge, spice harvesters. Those things are so cool. And, like, not only did they, like, design one spice harvester, but they every, like thing has two versions of it because you had like, these two competing houses that both harvested on Arrakis, and they had their own kind of visual design because they're their own great families from their own planets. So you had, you know, Timothy Shalom, whose family I cannot keep for you. The the treaty is written.
Good guys. Yeah. They kind of had that kind of navy kind of vibe to their outfits and their, you know, machinery where it's the ha ha. Ha ha ha. Yeah. felt like they're like. They're more like circular. They're a little bit more alien in there. It was. Yeah. It was very black leather. Bulbous. Yeah. Kind of weirdly sexual, but not kind of things. Yeah. And like. And scars guard like going through like this.
Just kind of like grotesque transformation throughout the series where he's like on life support. He's like in chocolate pudding, half of the movie. And then when they go back to their planet, it's like in black and white and but it almost worked. Well, it didn't. I didn't necessarily feel like they were going for like, oh, just a fun gimmick of let's go black and white.
I could almost imagine, like, oh, maybe their atmosphere on their planet had some sort of like polarization and everything, just like, look so black. And they filmed that in infrared, to get that, that look, it's not just a black and white filter because it doesn't feel black and white. Right. Like it's like, yeah, it's a weirdly, starkly contrast, but but it's like an infrared filter, I think over everything with that.
Yeah. I just so everything all of the basically the set dressings are like really, really great. But the story sometimes did drag. And in part two it felt like some people were just carrying like the idiot ball. There was a lot of just like, oh, well, we're really lucky that the Emperor landed, you know, out, you know, outside on the outskirts, you know, even though I don't see why he couldn't have just, like, landed right over the capital city in some way.
But but all of that to say, like it's a very effective movie. Like, I wouldn't take anything away from anyone that made this movie, but I couldn't recommend anyone go out of their way to watch these movies. And I definitely didn't go out of my way to watch them. I waited this long to finally get around to them so we know that they're making a part three, but now I now I understand what a prequel is supposed to look like because they're making that prequel HBO Max series.
Yeah, so I am more informed now, so I probably won't be going out of my way to watch any of this stuff, but it seems like a good holiday weekend with an extra with an extra day off and I need to burn, you know? Okay, maybe I'll check out the next Dune installment. So I was I kind of had higher hopes just because, you know, these two movies had been simmering kind of for a while, but there were still positives to to take out of it. The, the technology was really, really cool.
I kind of have similar feelings about the desert that I do with underwater movies, like, I don't want to be underwater and I don't want to be in the desert because it's just pretty boring. But at least the desert had like these giant gaps, and that was kind of cool. Yeah, well, the desert, the desert serves a purpose. It's not like it's an original movie. Kind of like, oh, not not anything like avatar, like avatar has, or like there's, like based on that, like Dune is the sand planet.
You have to do that. You read the book, right? Yeah, yeah, I did. How does how does the space make interstellar travel possible? I would have love to see how that works. The spices it. Well, it's it's more like a drug. And in the books, like I would say, even if you went back and watch the original, the the space girl was very they're left alone. But it's kind of like a drug that unlocks like a another dimension in their minds kind of things, turns them into like living computers.
And you kind of saw some of the human computer people in this movie, at least mostly the first movie. Right. like there was the mint hats, who like, it was a, it was the, the older guy in the first movie and he could like, tell them everything about it, like very quickly. So, like, the whole universe is much bigger than that.
Like, they actually why you don't see technology is because there was a technological war millennia ago, and they were like the emperor outlawed all computers in technology because the I was like or not able, like computers were turning against humans and trying to kill them. So when they beat them, that's why. And so it's there's a lot more to it, why it looks and is very. Grounded and and not like I forward future if you want. I thought the spice was like fuel,
like they were throwing it into, like, a furnace. And that was. Making. Oh, don't it, the travelers, the people, you know, the they actually had the engines to do it. but it helps them do the calculations to do the, the, the jump travel. So interesting. Okay. So that's what it is. But I really like Dune, I think I think honestly, you know, that's my kind of sci fi level. that's why I would say, you know, I, I resonate with that a little bit more.
It to me and and you, it's essentially space Game of Thrones rather than. Well I fantasy Game of Thrones. I do like being exposed to kind of because this is a seminal work of science fiction that a lot of people have drawn on and I would not be shocked if you told me the kind of space witches that David Filoni created, and The Clone Wars were like a direct reference to the what is it the been a Jesuit?
Yeah. Bene Gesserit. Yeah, yeah. And the, in Dune, like they they seem to be and directly inspired. Yeah. That kind of that source material. Yeah. There's I mean, there's a lot of, you know, again, this book was right there in the 60s. So like, absolutely, you know, a lot of, set a lot of people forward on sci fi. I would even say probably George R.R. Martin was probably inspired by some of this.
And and like I said in his game of their own stuff, right, because of all the houses and the different things they do and like, you know, the backstabbing and everything. So, yeah, it gets real. The series gets real weird. I would give them one more movie, one more book, maybe even Children of Dune. But like, boy, does it get real fucking weird after, like, that fourth book. so yeah. So we'll we'll start here. But I'm glad you got watch it.
And you're, you're, you're caught up with, well, I would say probably the biggest movie of this year so far. Right. Dune part two in theaters. So, we'll we'll see what else comes but the other big movie. I think this will be the biggest movie the year. Like probably other than Kraven the Hunter, wink, wink, which we'll talk about later. is Deadpool Wolverine and the tickets are now available.
If you haven't got your tickets, I want to make sure we talked about last week, when Patrick was a guest. Thank you for host. Guest hosting. Patrick. that ticket to Nashville for Deadpool. Wolverine. I got mine, like, half an hour after they went to sell, my bro was sold out. They let me go too, so it was just wild to me that they're going that fast. and I, you know, they did say, you know, this is one of the fastest selling R-rated films of all time, at least on the internet.
you know, ticket purchasing websites, and then if you get them in some places I like Fandango, you can actually get the best friends necklaces, right? The the Deadpool Wolverine necklace that was in that promo poster. so they're selling some of those and they're giving some of those away. But, one of the things about this Mike is in and out link these here. There's two cross promotions with it. One is that in cinema ad to turn off your phones.
And, this is by far one of the funniest things I've ever I've seen for for turn off Your phones. I hate the really cheesy ones where, like, you know, was it like, it's ringing and someone turns around and says, what's going on? But this one was actually entertaining because Deadpool is known for breaking the fourth wall. Wolverine is in here. Hugh Jackman, you know, telling them to, shut off your fucking phones.
but bleeping it out and, they even what they say we know who's someone who's going to be in Secret Wars. Like they're even poking like the the bear a little bit for for leaks and spoilers. You have you have no idea how excited I was to see this great rant. Ranted on the show like months ago about how what we need to do is we need to make, put your phones away.
And that's like, not cheeky and like, not cutesy or not just like clips from Amazon Prime TV shows, which is the one that I remember seeing the most recently. I like and it needs to run literally before the movie plays. Like not before the big like AMC, like, oh, Coca-Cola ad, like literally before the opening, like crawl of the credits. Somebody needs to have fear struck in them. Yeah, that put their phones away. So, the best case scenario is that's what this is done.
Like they use this just before the movie starts to roll. That would be amazing. I love how violent it is. Like, it's like, yeah, I understand it is for comedic effect, but he, like, I believe that, Logan would be in there trying to murder you with your phone. Yes. There. They even do like the the ringing of the phone as well. So, like, it's almost like they're they're doing like a mock scenario of just like, hey, yeah, this is annoying, folks, right?
When your phone rings and stuff, but, I would go even a step further, Chris, because it's not just the ringing anymore. It's. People don't put their phones on ring anymore. I can't remember the last time I heard a phone. It's just when the giant screen flashlight is coming out in the corner of your eye, and you can't. So I like I need somebody to get nitty gritty in it. I want just like 30 seconds of just like you're a bad person if you're on your device at all. No glowing.
Stop distracting people. So, but this is, off to a great start. you know, if, the popcorn buckets went viral, maybe we can kind of get this going viral, and then every movie will be making their own. That'll be like a new law. Let's have Congress pass a new law that if you're going to have a movie in theaters, it needs to start with a custom created, Put your phone. I don't I don't want to do that. I think you give to you make people do it.
You're going to get, you know, you're a diminishing returns, right? People aren't going to make fun ones anymore. But I enjoy this. And this is when I could see them using for few years even. Right? Like, I don't mind this running for several years. but the the luxury of Deadpool breaking the third wall, the the luxury of being an R-rated film and they they bleep out the words, but they don't cover his mouth so you can see what he's saying. The whole time and like, oh, this is great.
Like he's just he's just very angry and he's wearing that and you know, it. It is fun. It shouldn't be it things should be fun in this. And I'm glad this is fun. But it's like the perfect storm of everything with them. yeah. I'm clicking. I'm clicking around, my local theaters, showtimes for the Thursday the 25th. And yeah, there's they're starting to sell. And this is a movie that's two months away.
So maybe, maybe this Chris, like you were saying, maybe this kind of changes the headlines in the entertainment section of the newspaper. if the newspapers still exists in two months of, like, hey, the box office is back, movies are back, and it kind of maybe will change the tone. Well, I think it'll be it'll be it won't be movies are back. I think they did. That would do it already this year. We've already had that that that title. I think it's more of like the event film.
You know Marvel is is back. You know Disney has turned themself around with this one. even even though that may not be true by the time we watch the next movie, but it's going to kind of lean into like event filmmaking is has returned, right, to, to get them back in there. So, I'm, I mean, I'm excited for that. And then the other cross-promotion that was really funny is that, this is the first Marvel movie with a beer team, and it's for Heineken.
And, the only thing I ever remember Heineken was like, when they did Austin Powers back in, like the late 90s, early 2000. So it's, funnier to have Deadpool, Wolverine. Wolverine can't get his claws out to attack Deadpool because Deadpool, stole the adamantium to make him some silver bullet. Heineken's. So, this is this is just funny. Like, you know, if they're going to cut promos. Ryan Reynolds, we always talk about being a marketing genius, right? Doing that stuff.
They're going to throw everything in the camera, and he's going to he's going to make it fun, right? I'm not going to go drink Heineken. This isn't convince me to drink a Heineken by any means, Mike. But I will remember the name Heineken beer kind of going forward because of some of the funny stuff like this. is there anything you would want to see crossover with Deadpool outside of beer or or movie promos? That has not yet. That was my question for you today.
Well, the first thing that comes to my mind is the most obvious one is some sort of like chimichanga. Taco Bell crossover, but I cannot. I am feuding, one sided feud with Taco Bell right now. They go out of their way to change their app icon to a big Cheez-It, because they're going to start putting the big Cheez it in the Crunchwrap. And I'm looking at my Taco Bell and the I ain't got it. I'll tell you. You know why? You know why? Because when you open the app it says drops on Tuesday.
It's what it was. it drops tomorrow, man. I understand the concept of pre promoting something, but to go out of your way to make it so obvious, like, literally somebody opens up their phone, they're like, oh I'm going to get some Taco Bell. They go, oh my god. My whole app icon is now a Cheez-It. This is crazy. And then to go, oh, now you have to wait until it's the Memorial weekend. Like I think like I could have putting down some Taco Bell this week. Yeah, yeah.
When you open up and it says, you know, new drops on Tuesday and it's the Cheez-It thing, but I'm excited for the cheese as well. I went yesterday, picked up lunch here because I wanted some nacho fries before they disappeared. So that's what I think. Taco Bell would be a funny one. I was trying to think what I would like to see them if, you know. Yeah. You got a good point there with the food. yeah, I everything I'm seeing right now is Twisted Tees.
Mike, do we get a twisted T crossover as well as Heineken over here with it with these people? But, I don't know. So I think this is fun, but you guys can check out all these trailers in the in the show notes. We link them all all the time. in the, in the show notes. Moving on. But in the same vein, X-Men. My, deadline I think it was deadline has said that, Marvel is, courting or in talks with, screenwriter Michael Leslie to write the mutant led reboot. At least the first draft of it. Right.
We know all these scripts go through multiple iterations. They're not just like first draft done, and they film it, right. especially with so much time. So, Michael Leslie, he's done most recently for the, The Hunger Games prequel, The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes, and some other, movies. But, that's great. They're getting to work on it, right? Like, you know, we don't have a director, but they need a script before they kind of hire a director, I guess.
it's crazy that we're now just casually talking about the next X-Men movie. When. When we started the podcast, it was owned by an entirely different company. Yeah. We were. Who were we? We hadn't even gone apocalypse when we started the show yet. I think X-Men files, I was so I was like, I kind of want to rewatch that the other day just to see, how far Oscar Isaac has come. as a comic book actor. from from that. So my, my dive back into that. But yeah.
X-Men, I think this is again, we've always we don't have a release date, but this is always going to be to me post Secret Wars. Right. They're going to lean into Fantastic Four and X-Men, maybe even some other Fox properties. Post, post, secret secret wars. At the end of the day. But we'll keep you posted whenever this gets confirmed. Moving on vision.
I told you this the other day, we we talked we actually talked on the phone earlier this week, very surprisingly, announced that the vision series is not Vision Quest, but vision series as right now, as officially announced with Terry McAuliffe, who most recently, was a showrunner slash maybe writer for the last two seasons of Star Trek Picard. is coming in 2026. And, yeah, this this can't possibly be the, announcement of a second Vision series.
This is got to be like, we are just there's going to be one vision TV show that we're just kind of announcing it. My guess is, and we'll talk a little bit about it here on the on the next thing is that Vision Quest, was one of those shows that was kind of announced back when Bob Chapek was in Disney. Right? Like, hey, make more, make more, make more, make more. We need more. and Vision Quest kind of came out of that.
So I think, you know, the idea of Bob Iger saying, we're going back to the things that work, the character vision, has been in very, very popular projects across Marvel. So giving Paul Bettany back his vision and revamping it from that Vision Quest series into something else, I think is is going to be a great idea and probably some pretty good show for for Disney Plus, right? Yeah, I would love a, like, infographic timeline that shows all of the Marvel projects out there in the world.
and then just a nice highlight of, Bob Chapek reign. So we can kind of know what was and wasn't affected by the presence of Chapek, because obviously, you had things that were like in post-production, you know, when Bob, Bob Chapek took over. So, you know, less likely to be affected. But then we have entire projects that were conceived and created, during his reign, that you can kind of fully place. Blame Berry churn crunch.
They were very churned out like, I mean, I would say, echo would be maybe the last well, Ironheart, but that's got a whole nother year away. You weren't here your last Iron Hearts in a year and a half from this coming fall. So they may have a lot of time to revamp Ironheart. Right. since it's even post Daredevil. Yeah. So I would say maybe echo might be the last vestige of that.
Well, we drove by, McDonald's yesterday, and, it was hilarious to see a vinyl hang in there window, Captain America for Brave New World. And it says and it just says coming next year, which is, it's so weird because it's like, oh, this is like a an ad for a movie at a McDonald's. But actually, it was probably originally supposed to be for Happy Meal, like tie in toys, because the movie was supposed to be out already. The Happy Meal toys are out, by the way, if you want to get some.
Yeah. So. Exactly. So maybe, maybe Marvel was just like, hey, we already kind of paid for this slot on your window. We might as well just use it that well. The movie coming soon. Having having worked in the brick and mortar space like that, a lot of that stuff is preprinted and held. And then there's an expiration date on some of those things, right? Like stickers, stuff like that. So and McDonald's has already guaranteed slots like, hey, we have to have toys for this market.
So I guarantee you McDonald's, like, we're going to hold you to this because we need toys in our Happy Meals or else, you know, we're not going so Happy Meal. So it is the idea of well, the actor strike in the revamp, revamping of it. everything just kind of really just shuffled everybody's schedules around, right? Some things are rigid and finite, and then some things are like, now we can we can wait the movie back a year. You want those? So any toys you don't sell, hold on to them.
We're coming back next year with the same ones again along the way. But I'm excited for vision, I think. I think that fits the idea of like, hey, we're going to focus on things that work. Paul Bettany is a great actor. I think having the visions, I love the look at what I put me. It was picking images for the the stream today. I was like, I love that white vision look that they had there in WandaVision. So, I think they'll find a way to make that work.
One of the other shows that we've not really heard anything from maybe, I don't know if there's ever even an official announcement, another working on It's a Wonder Man series, right? And, Brad Winderbaum, who is the head of Marvel's TV and, streaming, I think he was out there for X-Men 97 or, you know, kind of kind of mingling after that has come out, has confirmed that Wonder Man is a marvel spot like series like echo was.
So you don't I know echo is a spin off of Hawkeye due to the Chapek care, but Wonder Man is going to be like one of those standalone things where you like, if you want to watch it, you can. If not, you don't have to kind of deals. but it it's, you know, the first two episodes are directed by Daniel Cretton, who did Shang-Chi and is doing you two, will, have the debut of Yahya mateen Abdul the second as Wonder Man. and, yeah, I mean, I mean, I'm excited for it, but we don't know. We don't.
Nothing about it. Literally nothing about it yet in the script. Yeah. Go ahead. I think by next week's show, possibly. I've been rewatching, Shang-Chi while I, work out. So I'm watching it about 30 minutes at a time, and I put it on last week, and I realized I hadn't watched it since I had seen it in theaters like, that was one of the first movies to kind of come back, out of the pandemic. so I feel like I just either not had written it off, but I just kind of forgot about it.
But, I if I'm to rereview the first 30 minutes of the movie. Great. Like I forgot. Like, this movie is, like, really fun. At least in the first 30 minutes. That bus fight scene is really, really cool. Sima Lu is. I'm sure he has a stunt double on set as well, but he is very clearly doing a lot of his own combat and martial arts in that scene, and it's just great. the the dynamic between, Awkwafina and Simbu is just. Yeah, awesome. So I'm looking forward to checking out the next 30 minutes.
And if my workout schedule goes as planned, maybe I'll I'll tune back in next week and give everybody an update on, like, the next 60 minutes. yeah. Yeah, that comes up one pretty pretty frequently here. Whenever I just go on my my Marvel streaming channel. But I really it's interesting because that movie really doesn't have super powers until like later on in the movie. Right, with the, the actual ten rings.
So to see a character be that, you know, charismatic and only just be like a very highly skilled martial artist is really fun, for for Marvel. So I absolutely agree. One of the things when they're bomb also said, you know, when you're talking about Wonder Man and everything else, he's like, you know, two years ago, the director was to fill the service, quote unquote, Disney Plus as fast as possible no matter what. And it's now a more considered approach where they develop more than they produce.
So you said, I want to I want to list of items like, this is the things that were touched, right, that were just like, fill as fast as possible versus, you know, post cheap. Like, I would like to see a list of things that we've been rumored to be developed and what's actually come off of it. Right. Like, like a like, oh, these are, these are been greenlit. These were just rumors kind of thing.
because I think we're going to get a lot of it because we talk every week is like, you know, this, they've been developing this or developing this. Well, developing doesn't mean it's going to come to see the light of day. It's just something that they have to do to say, will this work? Will this fit our needs at the time? Right. So. yeah, it it is crazy just how absolutely damaging that policy was. Right? Because it's funny.
Like, I'm trying to imagine, like the other version of the strategy, which was just like, stay the course, you know, make fewer great stuff. How would that really have affected the Disney Plus streaming numbers? Right.
Because you're not necessarily subscribing just because there's like a new thing that just dropped, like you're staying subscribed because like, Disney has that super strong catalog, you know, like, oh, well, I'm not going to churn because, you know, later this year there's going to be like another season of like The Mandalorian, something that's already established, like, I'm sure they would have had a few more churn than usual, but it's just hard for me to comprehend.
Like, would it really have been that bad if you didn't go full bore ahead and try to stuff the streaming service? Because Disney was one of those few brands that kind of already had, like the Vault, you know, they almost they could have released Disney Plus with zero announcements of any new stuff, and they probably still would have been better off than like Paramount Plus is right now, even with like, all of this new Star Trek stuff.
You know, this comes across, you know, you may find this out in a couple months, like a lot of parents are like, we keep Disney Plus because our kids are watching it. Like they have so much kid oriented material, and it's easy to find that kid stuff in there. Like you'll put them on, they'll put them on there, watch it. Like, you know, the advent of Bluey, I, I understand what Bluey is. I've never watched it before, but I know it's very popular.
And even among the parents of children's, it's on there, right? Disney Disney is grabbing that. They've also been grabbing Doctor Who. They're trying to get, you know, stuff, you know, quote, quote across the pond, if you will, trying to, to bring people in. So I think there's the idea of even licensing. They just miss out on licensing. Good stuff that already existed. Right. And putting it on their service whenever they just like just make everything well own at all.
And it, you know, we're still feeling it years later after after Chapek was even ousted. Right. they're still they're still trying to bring back good will across the page. Just the fact that the moniker Marvel Spotlight has to exist and it gets described as like, well, you don't have to watch it if you don't want to. Like, how insane is that that a streaming service has to look at content as looks like, oh, this is optional. It's like, no, why are you making anything that's that's optional.
That said. I disagree with you entirely because there's the idea of background content, right? Like background. Like they're making shows to fill the background because people need noise and you don't want to watch it. And and I think that's fine. That's perfectly fine to make mediocre content. That's background noise that you don't need to focus in on. Sometimes I would say leave the medium mediocre content to maybe not the Marvel label. Well, I know, I know, I agree, I agree.
I'm not saying this Marvel. I'm not saying it's Marvel. I'm just saying in general that content is still okay. Again, they should have thought about that before they slapped it. It's a marvel. You have to make more stuff, along the way. And and literally it's, you know, between that again, we talked about last year writers strike and direct. you know, obviously actors strike. Everything has just been a, a boulder rolling down a hill. And we don't know when it's going to really settle yet.
So we'll we'll see. But, I'm still excited for Wonder Man. I think it's got a strong cast as well as strong people behind it. And they since they have not announced the date for it, there's a lot of time for them to adjust things and do the TV approach that they said that they're going to be doing, so we'll see where that is when it comes out. Mike, last week, were you here last week we talked about the bond fandom. Was that two weeks ago where we talked about. I was not here last week.
Okay. Talked about it, but I am prepped on the topic. Yes, it is about an old Marvel character, but wasn't originally a marvel character, correct? Well it was, yeah, that doesn't matter, I think. I think that's, that doesn't matter. it's essentially a secretary who moonlit as like, a spy. Kind of like comic book person, like the 50s. Right? she came back as an She-Hulk in, like, the late 80s, early 90s.
But, it was this rumored to be Scarlett Johansson's project because she mentioned in an interview several years ago. And that's what she's producing, because that's something, you know, that she wants to do. The newest rumor is that, singer slash popular artist Taylor Swift has met with Kevin Feige about the MCU. Most people I love. How you felt. I love how you felt compelled to. explain to. Classify who Taylor Swift. Well, I don't know who our audiences are, and I. And that's fine.
But I will tell you that that she's. I think it was confirmed that she met with Kevin by about the MCU. Now, I don't think there's going to be Dazzler and Deadpool. A lot of people say, I don't think she's going to do that. The rumor now is that she met with him about maybe taking the lead in this blond Phantom project, which is set to be a 1950s spy movie set in Las Vegas. Two things kind of check the boxes here. One, it would align with a non necessary character era.
like, hey, we want to do something set the MCU in the 50s. We don't need it to be someone who's going to carry a six movie franchise. It could be a one off thing. Boom. Check that. And then plus, Taylor Swift would be a huge audience draw because everything she touches, turns to gold. So, is that I don't know where the blond Phantom project lives overall. or why Scarlett Johansson has, possibly has such a, an effect on it.
But if they were to do in 1950 set thing, I think, you know, get Taylor Swift, you're gonna you're gonna have instant money at the box office. Yeah. You put it in theaters for sure. Don't put it on Disney+, because I feel like you're leaving box office dollars on the doorstep. Well, I'm. Sure you also missed last week. There's no more Disney. Disney Plus gets two shows a year. No movies. That's it. So nothing's going with Disney Plus anymore?
Yeah, I doubt that they're going to be, filling one of those slots with something that could be earning box office revenue. Yeah, but you do bring up a great point like this. Feels like a great idea of, like, testing the waters with Taylor Swift in an a lead role.
I don't know her entire acting career, but there is a movie that my wife and I occasionally watch called Valentine's Day, where she just kind of played like, ditzy cheerleader, in high school and like, a just like a brief, kind of like 1 or 2 off part. You know, she's funny in that. So, she can definitely command a crowd. That's for sure. We all saw her a live performance on Disney Plus, so this kind of feels like a good way to test her out of.
Just like, hey, if the project doesn't go off well, we don't really need to continue this, like, kind of pocket of Marvel, so it could be a good strategy. You know, Taylor Swift, Scarlett Johansson to entertainment powerhouses is going at it. And literally again, it could be a marvel character. It could be in the MCU in the 50s. But you don't have to touch anything else. Right?
Like we don't have to worry about a king showing up here or anything, like we just set this one movie here and, it's going to make money no matter what, what happens with it. So, I think I think it's great if it's true, awesome. If not, I'm still not offended either way at the end of the day. So we'll see if this ever comes to fruition. Moving into rumor territory. We got some rumors, here for a little bit. Number one is that Franklin Richards will be part of the Fantastic Four team in a suit.
Will have the number five on it, because he would be technically the first fifth member, if you will. And the more I thought about this, I'm like, well, the actors they have for reading Sue, Pedro Pascal and, Vanessa Kirby are both easily aged. They used to be parents of like, little kids. So I'm like, this would make sense for them to be have we kid we don't need again teenage Fantastic Four or the 20 aged the 20 ish 15 times where these actors are older, we know they're in their 40s.
They could easily have a kid who's like ten and be part of this. What's his what's his power set again, I can't oh. He, about everything. He can make pocket universes like he can. He's like multiversal pockets. He, very, very powerful, teller. Telekinetic, I guess, or multiversal powers. He's got a lot of. You got a lot of stuff going on. in the comic books, he was like the the son of, but also a mutant gene as well in the comic books.
So they could lean into this mutation or not, I don't know, I think it'll probably be just maybe discovering his powers is a little bit as a as a kid on this. according to his, I don't know how official the, the, the power grid is on, marvel.fandom.org, but his highest bar is on energy projection and a seven. The second highest is intelligence at four. It seems like he has, like, above average intelligence. And all of his, all of his powers is set and energy projection.
Yeah. And one again in one future. it he comes the older version comes back because he lives to the end of time in that universe. And he literally makes Galactus his herald in that universe. Like, that's how powerful he is. So, yeah, he he's got some stuff like that, but, like, it all depends on who's writing them and what they want to do with him. Right? So his powers can be anything, you know, kind of kind of ridden any time, with that, move. moving on in. That's for Natasha Leone.
actually, most recently, it was a Russian doll. I believe she was right now. Yeah, she was in Russian. Russian doll. And then what was the other one? The, Orange is the New black is what you're thinking. I was thinking of the one where she was the murder mystery show that, Oh, Knives Out now. It was it was that. It was the guy who wrote Knives Out. Who wrote Knives Out. The show. He did? Oh, right. Ryan Johnson. Yeah, it was a show. He did. show. Oh, yeah. Poker face. Poker face there.
Yes. Poker. I was like, damn sure I go see a poker face. Yes. so she's been in some great, obviously some great content lately. she has been cast in a unknown but surprising role in this movie. According to the. She's been cast officially, but the scoop is a surprising role. Some rumors are saying that she could be a female Doctor Doom in this universe. be multiverse, right? Not the Doctor Doom across all time, but like that. That version of this.
so to see Natasha Leone versus like, a female Doctor Doom versus, there's a Kirby's Invisible. What would be an interesting twist on the the standard formula from before? I don't think she could be. I don't think she's Doctor Doom, if I'm going to be completely honest. But, I think it's still a great, great grab. Right? I think she's a great actress for this. Yeah. She's great. I've no idea what she'll what she'll be.
I there's a part of me that thinks that maybe they're going to try to go more traditional to the comic books with Doctor Doom, just because they've yet to kind of really achieve the classic Doctor Doom. We don't need. Doctor Doom, you know, this early, I think if you have Galactus, you don't need Doctor Doom at the same time. Right? Like, is that there's too many famous villains in one film.
So, yeah, I feel like we haven't had a lot of long con, kind of conniving villains in the Marvel MCU just yet. Like, every villain that we've come across seems to be a reaction to something that the hero has done, which is why we've gotten a lot of those palette swap villains. I do really like the idea of Victor Von Doom.
You know, he was sitting on his throne and he got the report that, Tony Stark, this this arms dealer, had become Iron Man, and then he's just watching all of the stuff play out. And, you know, he's preparing and he's planning, and then all of a sudden, he executes this masterful plan, kind of not unlike, I can't think of his name. Baron. what's a in, Civil War? Oh. Yeah. Yeah. His name again? no, not Baron Mordo. That's the doctor that's stuck in Strangerville.
God, why can't I think of his name? Yeah, he's got, you know, he's got the purple beanie. He doesn't. He. He dances in the the show. For for the life of me, I can't remember his name, but kind of like that. But to the 10th degree, you know, not just plotting for his family, but plotting for the entire supremacy of the planet, you know? Yeah. And I think the one thing I would say is, you know, he he needs his own country.
And then we got to get that Varian, there's some way, like, he needs to be a ruler of his own country, right? Like, you know, being just an outsider like somebody else. Yeah, well, we went to school together, and he's not leaving his own country. That's a little. We got to have that part of it. I think you I agree with you. We got to have a more fulfilled Doctor Doom at the end of the day.
So absolutely on board with that, mood on Avengers five possibly, you know, Kane Dynasty down to though they've been calling it the Village Five. But the rumor is a rumor that he knew Kang the Conqueror and for this reason will be announced in the next few months so they could use the Conqueror to get around the potential issues of the recasting, if any exist. I, I do like that idea. Yeah. we can do it. We just can't use the word Kang anymore. We've we've been running it through our lawyers.
We've been stress testing the case, you know, for months now. We finally came to the idea of. You just dropped those four letters, Kang. Well, either way, I think if they're going to continue that, we've talked about the five main actors characters in this movie so far. being very different, right? Spider-Man, new Captain America, Hulk, She-Hulk and Moon Knight. if they're going to have a multiversal person, we'll just finish up with Kang. No, don't introduce anybody.
You wouldn't. Avengers movie, like that. You can continue with Kang if you need to to get that done. But, the other part of this is a Fantastic Four. Is not likely to appear in Avengers five. They will probably carryover into secret Wars, which I don't think anyone was really concerned about. But yeah, we you know, we heard the rumor that Avengers five is supposed to be slightly smaller scale or at least trim back team. So that would make sense. And it was set up for a Secret Wars, right.
Which would be multiversal. So. Absolutely. rumored time for Spider-Man four. I like a good Spider-Man movie. Mike. I don't know about you, but aspiring for the Tobey not tell me where not to Tobey Maguire when I was gonna say the, not the Andrew Garfield one, but the Tom Holland one. the bad Boys four slash Batgirl movie that was deleted. Director team Adeel, LRB and Bilal Fallah as, our front runners as directors currently. like that short list.
I love that that they were kind of poached from Warner Brothers, and I'm sure it wasn't hard to poach him. Yeah. You know, I think I doubt they had any sort of allegiances. If you go back, even the I think the director, LRB, he shared like a note. Kevin Vick even sent them saying, like, you know, he was sorry to hear about their experience in the movie and stuff like that. And some other stuff. So like, he has been in touch with them beforehand, so, snagged him right up out of that one for that.
But here's where the rumor is that's going to be interesting for you is that the kingpin will be the main villain with returning henchman, the shocker from homecoming and the Scorpio, and also from homecoming, to return with the latter Scorpion bonding with MCU symbiote like he did in the comic books. so they could have a venom powered scorpion, rather than a venom. They would have a symbiote powered scorpion in the movie as well. That would be pretty sick, actually.
I don't think I have a visual, reference for that. I wouldn't be doubt if it's happened in the comic books before. I feel like venom has kind of circled through every character. And, yeah, Marvel Comic Book Universe, you know. In, Dark Avengers, actually, which, you know, a lot of the lines are kind of point to, the, the venom on the team or Spider-Man on the team is actually Matt Gargan in the symbiote suit, and he was much more like a carnage.
If you will like how much how brutal he was and was killing stuff like that. the other rumor with us is that Peter Parker may be killed slash die in the movie, and then bond with the symbiote. point of death to bring him back to life. And that's where we we get a man with black suit. It's from the symbiote. Bring back there. Well, like I said the other week, I'm sitting on that Secret Wars number eight. Yeah, the black suit is attached to.
I would prefer the black suit to happen in Secret Wars to possibly maximize my return on investment for that comic book. Yeah. but it sounds cool. I'm thinking, like, oh, maybe the kingpin, has Alistair Smith working for him. Smith is like, hey, we discovered this symbiote, and these things that it can do, and Kingpin's like, well, Spider-Man's messing up my stuff, so I'm gonna throw this superpowered goo on my henchman and send them after him. I could see that happening. Yeah, exactly.
And I think, you know, even if maybe, maybe this, this small scene, he gets a black suit, but, like, you know, they in the movie with that, he goes back to, he's like, I don't know. You know, the symbiote turns him back into his regular red and blue suit, I guess. And then he uses that next in Secret Wars would be so pretty interesting. But, it sounds like they got some ideas to do us. These don't sound like bad ideas, so we'll see how they execute them with, with the writing team and director.
Now we're going to get into some interesting things here because we saw a plot leak for Venom The Last Dance coming out later this year. Venom three, essentially to boil it down, like I've linked the, the thread on X, now it's X no longer Twitter, it's officially X, but it will focus on Eddie, Brock keeping his universe's ten year old Peter Parker alive from his venom suit because venom wants to kill all Peter Parker's after being in the MCU while dealing with the spawns of the carnage symbiote.
there's like 4 or 5 of them. And then also the human group called the jury, who want to kill all symbiotes in existence. Just just a just a break it down real quick here. boy, does this sound busy as fudge. For a movie. Yeah, I just, I just I just read through this, so there's some sort of hive mind, that Eddie and Venom are tapping into. What would that be? They kind of. They kind of had that at the end of two in the beginning of, Spider-Man Far From Home or No Way Home.
So, yeah, keep keeping with that. And the hive mind is telling him that, he will be killed by, Peter Parker slash Spider-Man. which kind of is really funny, because that's what happens in Madame Web. The villain has these visions of being killed by a spider person, so he decides to preemptively hunt them down and kill them. and the twist, it looks like here is that Peter is just going to be ten years old.
So that's where you get your kind of like, conflict of like, well, Eddie and Venom are kind of chaotic neutrals to good, so could they even go through with killing a ten year old boy? It sounds like there's some funny stuff that could happen in there. And, you know, this is your roundabout way, you know, to get Spidey, you know. Yeah, quote unquote spider man with that. That's her man. And that's what Madame Web did. Mike, do you remember Madame web had been Parker. His sister was having a kid.
Excuse me, Chris, when you bring up Madame Web, I really need you to append, Netflix. number two streaming, smash film. Right behind Atlas. The movie about Jennifer Lopez hating A.I.. Right. And that is just has, like, a 10%, I think, on Rotten Tomatoes. but this this is sounds balls to the wall crazy. Which if they can actually increase the number of symbiotes and then also use, you know, the jury, humans are killing symbiotes and all this stuff.
It sounds like it could be just straight, you know, action. Go go go. And that's fine with me, right? I don't want downtime in these, these movies. So, if this is true, this is just going to blow my mind that they got a ten year old Peter Parker in this movie. I think that's this is blowing my mind here. At the end of the day. Yeah, it's just another, just another reminder that Peter Parker is a relatively useless character to the audience until they get bit by that spider.
it sounds like there's a funny bit in here where they try to get him bitten by. Yeah, they're spiders that just make him allergic, like, oh, this sounds funny, but, like, I don't care about this movie. I, I. I do, because this is the last one. They they said that this is the last venom movie, and I want to see how do they in this goddamn franchise, right.
Like, you know, watching the first one, the first one has, like, you know, a couple YouTube moments that are pretty cool, but overall, it's black goo fighting gray goo. Right? you know, the second one had Woody Harrelson going, you know, being crazy is carnage. They kind of lacked some of the the cohesiveness of it. But it was, you know, a very quick paced movie. But this one, it carnage I love playing was the Super Nintendo game. it's total maximum carnage.
Maximum carnage. Right. Where the where all the symbiotes are out. I love seeing the different powers. Even the Spider-Man five game. Right. Spider-Man two had the different symbiotes. So I would like to see this, but, it needs to, it needs to just go and just be going and not slowing down. But the problem web. Yeah. Still number two. Sorry. I had to look it up. Oh, Lord Hill number two, 20,000,000 hours viewed. 10 million views.
So if, Well, yeah, I guess it's roughly like a two hour movie, so I guess I guess that makes sense. It's the same five people watching it like this. The Snyder fans have moved over to know to minimum, but that's fine. You know, when it's free and the curiosity like I, I saw someone mentioned the ick factor of Batman, right? Like it's just so fucking bad. Like, no, you and no one believes it's that bad until you watch it. You're like, oh, it is that bad.
So I absolutely believe it's one of those situations or sounds like it can't be that bad. And they watch like, oh yeah, it is that bad, kind of thing. But oh well. But speaking of things that could be that bad. Kraven the Hunter. Mike, one of the executives from Sony this week said that the movie was moved from its original release date this summer to December because more people will have time to revisit the movie in theaters over and over again during the holiday.
How delusional do you have to be? Like, you know, people aren't even watching good movies multiple times, let alone this one. this is is this what this is just what they had to say to their bosses, right? They they had to find a way to justify it in the meeting. They have to put it out. Yeah. They have to say something to. They don't. They're going to talk down about their own movie. Right. That's how an executive is hired to do.
They're here to tell you it's the best movie they've ever seen in their entire life. But look, we always talk about how we wish we could hire an entertainment lawyer to give us kind of some insight on these deals that, you know, we'll never know about because unless there's some sort of leak or are there some sort of court case with discovery?
We never know exactly how this stuff goes down, but it seems like whenever we're talking about, you know, Sony specifically, it seems all the all the movies are always based on, like some sort of. Delusion. Expiration date delusion. Yeah. So it's like, oh, we definitely have to make sure the movie comes out this calendar year, though, because I'm jumping ship and I gotta make sure, you know, that I get all of my proper. bonus. Residuals.
And if it spills over into the next year, I can't go on my vacation to Fiji or something. The, seems like there's there's no long term thinking with these strategies. It's just like, what's the next thing? Get it out. We got to put Madame Web out on Valentine's Day because all the couples are going to the movies to watch. Yes, exactly. Madame Web. So we'll see. Someone in the social department says they're going to make memes about it. Yeah, a lot of people going because, I mean.
Yeah, the Morbius had memes. That's what people saw when we really released Morbius. Guess what? We lost money. That's what. but yeah. So anyway, Kraven the Hunter, when you, Thank God it'll be out in December. We can watch it more and more times in theaters. Lanterns James Gunn, has officially announced the team of Chris Mundy. I think it was like Criminal Minds. Tom King, comic book writer, and Damon Lindelof as, the people working on the lanterns TV show.
So, Lindelof, always puts up a red flag in my book. Right? I always think of lost and some other stuff. He did a lot of mystery boxes with him, so hopefully they can, you know, kind of keep that contained. But Chris Mundy with Criminal Minds and Tom Keene, comic book writer, I think they could probably all maybe even each other out, to get some,
some, some quality content across the board. There I am, I am most excited about this cause I love gray lanterns and I would love a good quality Green Lantern. Nothing against Ryan Reynolds and Taika Waititi's Green Lantern that they both starred in from 2010. But boy, it's a little kick in the dick when you think about it.
Moving on. The Last of Us season two is currently filming, and they have officially written that Jeffrey Wright, Commissioner Gordon, Batman The Watcher, and, what if to play Isaac Dixon, a character he actually voiced in part two, the video game? Oh, I didn't even realize I had to look the character up because it's it's been a while since I played The Last of Us. part two. the character. Yeah. Comparable looking. I mean, not exactly. I forgot who is character was.
And I guess he's kind of a, a leader of the, I guess depending on how you interpret good and evil. leader of the. One of the groups of evil. Group, I guess, as a way to put it. that's cool though. Yeah. I'm like, whoa, that's that's a, you know, a great opportunity to bring that person in who read the voice acting and and put them into action. I like Jeffrey, like everything he does is I enjoy, I have not watched what is that movie that came out? It was a it was an Oscar award winning movie.
Oh, what was it? It's about the book. It was about the book writing one. yeah, I would like to watch it, but he does great stuff, I think. I think it's great. He's a great grab. He's even great Westworld, you know, say what you I was from he is a great grab for that show as well. All right. We are at the end of the show. The end of the show means we're going to do a full review of X-Men 97, the full series. probably mostly the last three episodes.
It's been about a week and a half since I've watched any of the show. Mike, you were able to wrap up earlier this week. so, we're we're going to talk about some full spoilers. If you've not seen it, all ten episodes are on Disney Plus. You can go check them out, come back and listen to this. if you, you want to be quote unquote spoiled, jump in. It's a cartoon show. I don't know how much spoilers are, but it was a to me. Overall, the season's a great time and I had a good time.
I highly recommend it. That's my review for the full season. Mike, would you say the same thing before we spoil it? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, the fact that, my wife and I were a united front, going crazy that we couldn't watch the finale the day it came out. We had to wait until our family left to check it out. I mean, that's that's saying something right there. It's it's great.
They do a great job of capturing the nostalgia, but also upgrading it and updating it so you don't feel like you're watching something dated. Because I've heard I never got around to rewatching the original, before the new updated series came out. But I did chat with a couple, people that did do that. They did the marathon, they checked it all out and they're like, oh yeah, that those, those older cartoons don't age as well as you thought they did. At least I think. Not necessarily storytelling.
The animation. Yeah. Just animation and some of that. But we always talk about the meme with Wolverine laying in bed looking at a photo. Right. But he's in his full fucking Wolverine costume when he's in the bed like, you know, they weren't they were just drawing stuff back then. They kind of meet the weekly deadlines of of Fox animation. But absolutely the, the team, especially with the recently the, the that departed the world.
But the part of the show Beau Demayo even he has been actively, you know, and are engaging and filling in the stories of the shows come out. you know, they there's a lot of heart and like, like feeling in nostalgia went into making this series. And you can tell there's that reverence of that material.
Yeah. And sadly, I mean, I don't want to say they got lucky because it makes it sound like it's a positive coincidence, but the stories that the X-Men usually tell or sadly, timeless in a way, because there's always some sort of persecuted group out there in the world, that's, you know, getting genocide. And that's literally a plot line in the story. And there's real world mirrors of that happening right now in the world. So you're just watching it.
It's just like, wow, this is just, everything is on topic, and it's just, you know, you're not expecting that. And kind of like a vintage 90s cartoon, you know, to be kind of, touching on stuff that you would be able to see if you turned on that news right now in our own world. And I think. I think in that regard as well, one of the things about the show I enjoyed is none of the characters were technically safe either.
Like, you know, characters die in this, people and characters and mutants die in this, who I thought would never die right in the in like the not saying they can't be right back as comic books and animated stuff. Even morph died, quote unquote, in the first episode of the first season of the original show. But like I was, I was proud of them for not saying everyone has to be alive by the end of the show, if you will.
So and that adds to the weight of what you're talking about like the weight of, like there are actual things in here like genocide and you know, essentially, you know, racism against mutants and the people who are affected by it, they don't make it out safely by the end of the show. And, that, that is that is how the real world, real world works as well.
Yeah. And it seems like really the, the, this final chapter of season one, really revolves around our discovery of the main villain that's been kind of planning in the background, which is bastion. now, this was a character I wasn't super familiar with. I had didn't really have any sort of nostalgia for. So it was kind of interesting for the most part.
I was being introduced to something brand new that I hadn't seen before in these X-Men cartoons, and I do, I do I it wasn't as smooth of an introduction as I would have hoped, but I think it's just because everything else was just operating at such a high level for me, because I was like, oh, these are all of my friends. These are all of the baddies I remember from Saturday morning cartoons.
Like it was just so easy to drop back in and then, oh, now I'm kind of getting something delivered to me that's brand new. And even his visual design probably was a little difficult from their point of view because it's like, oh, we're we're kind of adding our own new flavor to Bastian. But also he still needs to be seated properly within this 97 universe. So I feel like sometimes that, that those two concepts rubbed up against each other.
But overall it was still really fascinating, especially in that last episode when he kind of, I guess, for lack of a better term, starts to decompose, like part of his face is falling off and you can see Organic Robot. Yeah. You get to see. Yeah. and also they just do a great job of like this is kind of like villain 101 where you make us empathize with them in some way.
And, and it's kind of nice just seeing heroes be heroes at the very, very end where they kind of had every reason to just obliterate this dude when he was underneath the Sentinel Flint, like, there's there's no one would have blinked an eye if they just vaporized him from existence. But they're like, no, we're going to attempt to try to save them because we're good people.
I kind of had that similar feeling when I was watching those first 30 minutes of Shang-Chi, where I feel like in a lot of superhero movies, before they were to do this big bus fighting scene, they would have fabricated a way for the bus to briefly stop, and then all of the people get off the bus, you know, and then we'll go back on our fighting adventure. But no, through that whole bus fight, you know, Shang-Chi is doing his best to keep people out of the way.
Save them, stop them from falling out of the door. So it's just a nice reminder that, like, oh, we're we're watching these superhero movies. They're supposed to be a hero, but they're involved. So it is kind of nice that Cyclops does kind of revert back to his kind of Boy Scout. But yeah, yeah, it's weird. Weirdly endearing. Yeah. And it worked because I think he kind of had that arc for the season. Right.
Like, honestly, the idea of him like, you know, is he is he married to Jean Gray or Madeline Pryor? His son was into the futures. He finds out his son is capable. you know, he professor X, you know, is literally just came back to life according to them. Like, Magneto's trying to destroy the world. Like, there's a lot going on in those last few episodes, which is great because that's, you know, that's what they've set up, all these seeds. None of it was surprising,
but it was still great to see it all kind of culminate. Right? Like you feel like a lot of those strings, those loose strings were not not all of them were tied up. But like, it felt like, oh, we know what the ending is and we know what the next season's kind of going to go. I will say one of the things I see online, a lot of people, you know, it's mixed, but I, I agree with the people who say Wolverine was sidelined. Yes. Because he's not an the X-Men. Wolverine is a character of the X-Men.
The X-Men are technically dozens of other characters, right? And also just a crazy visual moment. I mean, that is like the epitome of, like a comic book. splash page, right? Just the adamantium being ripped off of his bones. Oh, yeah. Like so brutal. And it just goes to it also is a great storytelling mechanic to show you how serious Magneto is in that moment, that he would resort to doing something that brutal. That's how high stakes it was.
And then also, of course, the gears in my brain start the run of like, well, of course, Wolverine's not dead like they wouldn't even they would never think to do that, to a character of that magnitude in this show. but then also, as we see in in our little post-credits scene, even when a character's dead, there's probably a way they're going to bring it back to life. It is a comic book after. Yeah, well.
But like, I'm imagining, I'm already imagining kind of Wolverine's like arc in season two where he's going to have the bone claws, you know, and he's going to he's not going to have that adamantium eye to make him as lethal. And then I could see him maybe going, finding a way to get the adamantium back on him or something. I don't know, there's some sort of journey. Yeah. He's going to go through. Yeah.
I have an idea of what that journey is already, because at the end, might you bring up the post-credit scene? That's where it's going to go, because we see technically apocalypse or apocalypse in the past when he's in Savannah with one group of people, we see the future where Cyclops meets his, young son, cable, right where he is in the future. Then we see apocalypse at the same gene OSHA picking up the card where Gambit was technically the Horseman of Death for apocalypse in the comic books.
Well, yeah. And I. And I can't believe I never like I knew that that's that is a very kind of base. Sick, part of Apocalypse's like, origin. He has those horsemen, and it's just like. Oh, yeah. I never thought that. Like, that would just be a very easy way to bring somebody. But we are. We are missing three X-Men who who don't show up again at the end. Mike. if you if you add Gambit and Wolverine storm and morph. where where are Wolverine? Storm and morph at at the end of this. Right.
We don't see them. They're not in the past. They're not in the future. They're missing on Forge's board. So what if the Four Horsemen for apocalypse are literally the four people we we Gambit, Wolverine, storm, and morph become the new horsemen for apocalypse in the present. Oh, that'd be that would be pretty wild, because Wolverine also look up. I did also look up Apocalypse's, Power rankings when I was on that page a few minutes ago.
Man, he is like, he's all like six and sevens in almost every category. He's not somebody you want to mess with. Yeah. So, it sets up some. Great. That's that is a sign of a good story here. We're not talking. We're talking about the show, but we're talking about how excited we are for the next season. Right? Like, Beau Tamayo says he's already written some of, season two. That means they're probably going to fast track this because of the popularity
of the show. Mike. Right. Like, get the voice actors back, do all this stuff. I had such a good time watching the show. My wife was on board as well. I couldn't watch. I we were we were behind, I think a week or maybe two because of stuff she had, going on. I think you're in the school year. And we were like, I was like, can I watch? And she's like, no, not till I get to watch it with you. So I absolutely love that. it was just fun to kind of see all the stuff.
And I will say, the one thing that disappoints me the most that I've seen the most talked about this show. Mike and you are guilty of this. I'm pointing that you right now. Yes. This show, this show is X-Men 97, and you don't have a single X-Men on our thumbnail back here. you have all the cameos that appeared in the last episode. I'm going for clicks, man. Yeah. Okay. If these if these cameos were more integral to the plot. Oh, yeah.
At the end of the show, I wouldn't have just so unabashedly included them on our thumbnail. Oh, they are, they are. They are the embodiment of just Easter egg. Fun things to point at the the Once upon a Time in Hollywood Leonardo DiCaprio. Oh yeah, they. Came from your couch. They threw so many at us there in that last episode in the in the art style of the 90s too, which was even better, I think. Yeah. And it's not like it wasn't things that we hadn't seen earlier in the season.
Obviously we saw Captain America and we saw also man. Yeah, maybe an episode 7 or 8, very brief. It was before we saw the Peter Parker version on the street. Yeah. It was, it was when Magneto was doing his big old ENP, I believe. so the fact that so all of that stuff that we saw technically could have been anything. Right? Yeah. It's just we're seeing comic book characters drawn in a animated art style. This could be living in any universe, right.
But the fact that I got to see Peter Parker and Mary Jane, unmistakably from the animated Spider-Man TV show, just goes to tell me, since that was saved until the last episode, they better be heavily thinking about reviving that show. That was my childhood. That was everything to me. If they could bring back and we were trying to determine what it would be called, like Spider-Man 98. Is that what we figured? Yeah, yeah, I want Spider-Man 98 so bad, Chris.
And because the only thing that about that show that doesn't age super well to me in my brain. Is that the clone saga, the clone, because no. It's that is that Peter is constantly talking to himself because he needs to kind of narrate what's happening because he has like no other team members. So he's either quipping to himself as like a narrator or he's, talking to. He's explaining the scene. Yeah, he's just talking. Yeah, exactly.
It's a it's a thing that I hate a lot in, anime where, characters are constantly narrating what their, their thoughts and feelings so they don't have to animate them. So if they could give it this, like ten episode high production value appeal, I mean, oh my God, some of the amazing animation scenes that we saw this season attributed to, like a Spider-Man, character. Oh man. And there's so many things you could pull on now. Like when that Spider-Man show was being animated, they
they went pretty weird with it. Sometimes. I mean, he became that living spider. Yeah. They did, they did clone sagas. but they couldn't they weren't really reaching out into a lot of, until the very end, some of this crazy multiversal. Well, you know, like, all of this stuff is available to them. Well, it. Wasn't even it was very siloed to Spider-Man characters. Right?
Occasionally you get like, a Punisher, but like, you know, in this we saw Captain America, we saw 90s Iron Man, we saw Daredevil, right? we Galaxy Alpha flight, it was king to shocker, by the way, which was an interesting thing. It wasn't T'Challa, because it's the 90s still. So it was. It was a interesting life. Silver Samurai, you know, bring in the kingpin again. Bringing the squid, bringing back all the Spider-Man characters. I don't care how you do it. Right.
Rewrite it if you have to, because I think a lot of those Spider-Man villains have cool power sets, but, like, oh, you want to have Luke Cage in Iron Fist in an episode? Bring them in, because they're all in New York at this point in the comic books. Yeah. Give me like, a, like a two parter where he teams up with Daredevil. Yeah, it would be so rad. A hero for a hire. Like like like do like even bring just bring Jessica Jones in in her, like, jewel outfit, right? Like the purple stuff.
Because it's a cartoon. You can have fun with it, do some wild. It's like, and this is the this is the best part and greatest advantage of this show, where they can straddle these two ideas of producing a superhero story. You're in a more mature animated universe, so you can tell these, more affecting stories and really lean into the life and death of it all. Like there are stakes involved, but also you're rendering everything in flat 2D animation.
So if you introduce like a mysterio character right on screen, I'm not going to be questioning it like, oh, well, how does Mysterio have all of these, you know, powers of projection and, you know, putting people in this, like, cycle, like a mist. Whereas if you do it in the MCU, you absolutely have to explain it because that's the world that they've created. Well, if you go back and look at the X-Men ipsum Mo Tendo, you'd never doing that live action. You're not doing Mo Tendo in live action.
That's that silly. But you know, in cartoons, you know, in Spiderman, X-Men, it works out really, really well. I will say one of the cool character evolutions and this is the Jubilee doing the cool stuff with their powers, right? The fireworks, the spinning wheels. She had a really good arc in this, you know, I did I send you the photo, I think. I don't know if I sent you or not.
The opening scene, credit and the first episode, like, it shows like the humans running towards the screen away from the Sentinels. those are the Sentinels. They turned into, the the Super Sentinels or the Sentinel Primes at the at the, the end of the show. I don't know if I said I don't think I said that to you. Maybe you did send it to you. so I did. Okay, well, I'm gonna have to find this because it was a really, really cool, cool, little, like comparison.
Like, oh, these sentinels actually, they've been seeding the artwork. They're seeding the, the show, with this stuff for a while. So I really love all the deep cuts, all the Easter eggs in the show, that they've done because, I don't know. Is it? You can just tell when love and care goes into it, right? Like it's not like it's, you know, hey, we just did a quick, cheap cash grab to to to do on nostalgia. Everything about the show is firing on all cylinders.
And, I'm glad they're at least doing a season two. Maybe. Maybe more. Maybe season three. along the way. Is there anything you want to see in the show next? They that you can think of? I, I know the onslaught character. You familiar with onslaught saga. so I feel that's coming down the road next because he was created after the cartoon went off the air. maybe even the more recent Krakoa island of Mutant Nation, which is, you know, the past 4 or 5 years of comic books, they could do that.
Is there anything you're grabbing at here? You just want quality. You just want quality content. You don't care what it is, I think. So on that, on that alive or dead board from forge. Yeah. I think was Scarlet Witch one of the dead characters off, off world. Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were off world. I would love to see Scarlet Witch in come in and interact with Magneto in some way, because that's just not something that we're really going to see organically in the MCU at any point in time.
They have just not set up that that family lineage in any way. It wouldn't really make any sense for it to happen necessarily. So the kind of closest we're going to get and kind of a high level storytelling way is going to be in X-Men 97. So I would love to see, are they have they alluded to like House of M well, happening at all? No. Beat me X-Men. No. Because because they came much, even much later after the cartoon was off.
So we could you could get maybe, you know, at the end of season two, the everyone who's off world comes back for some reason, and then you get a House of M season three, even kick it off like that. Yeah, that could be crazy. So yeah, there's there's a lot of things that this engine that they've created can now do and I would love that. But I also I wouldn't be too shocked if there is maybe since this is officially under the Marvel umbrella Kevin Feige executive produced,
I could see some things maybe being off the table. Right. You know, if for some reason they are imagining, like a House of M storyline in the MCU at some point in time, just as an example, I could see them going like, maybe lean away from that. We kind of I could do that. I can see them saying, I can see them do that because like, all of this was based on so much comic books, and they could do so much that they can't do in live action, right? Yeah.
If they did House of M in Marvel, it's going to be, you know, we don't have Scarlet Witch anymore. Like Quicksilver said, they're going to recreate these characters. you know, Hawkeye is a huge part of that, and he's on his way out. So I think sort of MCU rebooting from the get go. I think they can just have all they want in here. And even include some of those non X-Men characters, but that's a good thing.
You have 27 years of comic books now to to lean back on bastion wasn't created until X-Men. the original cartoon was over. So it's funny to have him in here as a villain because he was created after the show was over. So, I don't know. I just I just had a good time with that. I want more, but I'm glad, you know, we got this kind of when we did. I need ten episodes every single year. Do not make me wait 18 months. 15 months, I need X-Men. I need this show running for at least five, eight seasons.
And I in this can live alongside the MCU content. I don't consider this MCU proper, so if you have to live action shows this, you can have you can have this beside it and it'll be fine. Yeah, I don't I don't need this to crossover with what if I don't need some sort of multiversal tear to throw one of these characters into the, secret war battle that everything's building up to? Just. This can be its own thing. It's a continuation of something else that we know and love.
If you're going to crossover crossover with Spider-Man, 90 day crossover with more, the. The 90s, the 90s saying to me. Exactly, just let me live in that world. I love it. It's so warm and cozy. Bring it, bring it all back. It's, it's nostalgic. Just we always talk about the nostalgia factor like, I want to. I would love to watch this show on my tube TV to see what it looks like and how that feels. That takes me back. So maybe, maybe one day. Well, that's the show for this week.
We've got we have a lot going on here. very, very excited. Glad to have you back, Mike. And we'll be back again next week. But people know what you're up to, what you're doing. Where can I find you at? Well, they can read my webcomics at Life Rewards risk.com and pickled. ComicBook.com. Chris, if people want to catch you, where are you? You can find me on Instagram VOD in 87 Velden or video game systems of the same name.
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